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Warfu
Could I sing this? Sako Tomohisa's genre is usually J-Pop and even from the source I downloaded this (with the EP) says J-Pop.
also, cdjapan has it on J-Pop.
http://puu.sh/qsDO6/da1a2e8d02.mp3
(song isn't uploaded on youtube or somewhere else so here's the mp3 kajskajs)

(Also, I would have to sing it as an acapella entry because this song doesn't have an instrumental)
Kyonko Hizara

Warfu wrote:

Could I sing this? Sako Tomohisa's genre is usually J-Pop and even from the source I downloaded this (with the EP) says J-Pop.
http://puu.sh/qsDO6/da1a2e8d02.mp3
(song isn't uploaded on youtube or somewhere else so here's the mp3 kajskajs)

(Also, I would have to sing it as an acapella entry because this song doesn't have an instrumental)
Yes that is fine
Warfu
wow that was fast. Thank you Kyonko :0
Kyonko Hizara

Warfu wrote:

wow that was fast. Thank you Kyonko :0
The only time I'm not looking at the thread is when I am asleep

Topic Starter
Flanster
I have created a discord server for osu!idol
Lets see how it goes, hopefully we can use this for better communication and some announcements.


https://discord.gg/7hZgNeH
Underforest
nice
Zeptaurus
Should I provide translated lyrics of the song I'm singing?
Kyonko Hizara

Zeptaurus wrote:

Should I provide translated lyrics of the song I'm singing?
If you want to you can, but providing a translation is not necessary.
sonniet
I bet I'm gonna be eliminated this round. Lost my earphones :(
Topic Starter
Flanster

Stage 2 Submissions are now *poof*!

It's judging time. give us a week or two depending on how things go!

Whoever hasn't joined our Discord server, you can here!
We'll be using it from now on actively for discussions, announcements, hang out and *cough* some karaoke fun too!
https://twitter.com/osu_Idol/status/764927249237893120
Hakeru
Hello i wanna ask the judges here

according to this tweet
https://twitter.com/osu_Idol/status/764903363444170753
https://twitter.com/osu_Idol/status/764903871323967490

that "but..yeah"
>but
>yeah

is this how you guys being professional as a judges?

my friend aireealistic and litoshi said that they got disqualified because they arent the part of the community, if you guys talking about their osu account, airi made her account right 2 months before the event started and even rei made his account 3 years ago

so it's like we need to play everyday or maybe we should beat cookiezi for being the part of the commu? lol

You do know this person wasted time and energy not to be disqualified for this stupid reason right?
And please think and define what 'part of the community' means
aireealistic
Hello, just wondering if commenting or posting something on this thread will count me in to the "community" :)

alright, I had enough with all these cause they are not logical enough, tbh this is my first time to join such competition. I mean "this" kind of competition where things are not fair enough by disqualifying after 2 stages (3 songs in total) just for such reason.
Even though I am a new user in osu idol doesn't mean that i registered just for "this". I was waiting for the osu update for OSX and i was able to find it that time, and that was the time when osu idol was a hot news, and so I downloaded and registered osu few weeks before joining the osu idol. But hey, I enjoyed osu and i played too, eventho i suck, but i have my stats. Not into the community yet? I do have friends on my osu friendlist :) So do i really have to be in a "gang" to be counted as "in" to the "community" or must i beat an osu master first? but there was no such rule for that in the RULES AND REGULATIONS cause I read it for sure before signing up :) I am always careful before joining any competitions or even chorus batttles.

this is pretty funny to get disqualified just because of this hahaahah. I pity my partner and myself for doing such effort and recorded even though we are very busy with other stuffs like school, chorus battle (hey i was joining 3 CBs), animating stuff, projects, but we still try to spare some time for osu!idol. Wow i should've done something else with such precious time and effort. I am now regretting that I should've just slept earlier last night lol. I shouldn't have pulled an all-nighter just for posting my entry hahahahahaaahhaha.

and fyi, litoshi's acount has been more than 3 years.

singing is not easy man.
and such "sincere apology", i don't think it's enough to cover our efforts in the midway? now think if you're in our position, what would you feel?

Though I have let this thing go, but I wont forget this as such a "WONDERRRRFUUULRLRLRLLR" experience :) and yeah, i think you messed with the wrong person, or idk. but the news has spread all over man, can't stop the media and online users who are deeply disappointed with this news, goodluck for you and your upcoming competitions, or osu!idol for next year. i wonder if this experience will really affect others. Cause the lesson was learned.
Have a nice day and goodluck to the judges and everyone in continuing this without us. Cheers.

sincerely yours,

aireealistic ;)
Kyonko Hizara

Hakeru wrote:

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While this is not directly a problem of the judges, as our job is meant to judge the entries, I would however like to reply to your post.

The reason for their duet being disqualified was, yes, because they are not a part of the community. Unfortunately, their entry had slipped through during the registration phase. This year, a rule was put in place to prevent people from registering for the purpose, as someone with a new account is not yet or barely integrated into the community. This is an event that is held every year for the community.

Aireealistic's arrive date says to be the account was created after osu!idol started (account created on 10/6 and event started 1/6), which invalidates your statement of their account being created "before the event started". If there was a previous account they were using, that violates the rules even more. litoshi is inactive both in the game and forums, but that is aside from this reason for the duet being disqualified.

It is understood that there is time and effort that are put into the entries, but letting the duet continue on into other rounds and potentially winning would give a negative look onto the rules and the event. Having talent is not a free-pass for them to continue on. We are sorry that this mistake was made and the accounts of these users were not checked. Mistakes are made, but learn from them and look toward improvements for the upcoming years.

I am sorry that you believe that the disqualification of the duet is "stupid" to you and the users in question. What "part of the community" means should not need to be defined, like as I said before in the opening paragraph that this is held for the community, but we are already looking into how improvements can be made for next year on making the rules more clear and understandable for all users.

aireealistic wrote:

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Witty, but your one forum post does not change what I have stated above.

A lot of what I have said above may give you a better look into the situation at hand. I am sorry if you are still unable to comprehend the situation even with a more in depth explanation.

The host and judges are not, as you are saying "messed with the wrong person". It is understandable for you to be upset due to a mistake being made on the staff's end, but the way you are handing the situation is very immature on your part.
Stefan
Just passing into this to leave some words:

  1. Yes, it's understandable that the disqualified users are upset about this since it isn't written in the rules - despite you would assume that a game-based event is only for registered users of this game. This includes you were already part of the community before the event started. And I am very sure this will be considered to be added in the rulebook for the osu!idol.

  2. However, you need to see that decision from the view of the organization and that rules are rules at the end. It's a unspoken rule since it is basically something obvious. But like said, this won't happen anymore.

  3. I'd highly appreciate that only the concerned users would speak about that case and that any unnecessary participations of other users are avoided. To growl at each other brings nothing and no one forward and it's pointless at the end.

Also, since you guys seems to overheat a bit I will close this for a bit.
peppy
Just adding my two cents that this decision makes complete sense?

Anyone who things registering to osu! just to enter a community contest that is intended for people that, you know, actually play the game is... missing the point?

A bit of common sense goes a long way.
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Flanster
I was prepared for a backlash but this is on another level.

First off I am aware what efforts aireealistic & litoshi put together up until now. Of course I can put myself in their shoes, I know plenty about wasted effort. That is why it was a difficult decision to make but it had to be done. This is an event made by the community for the community. It was only fair to do this for the sake of it. Sure I look like an asshole for doing this midway and wasting their efforts but believe me, I'm not doing it for my entertainment or just because other nonsensical reasons. When I found this out I was compeltely pissed off at myself and found this situation so bad that I spent 30 minutes thinking about it before taking the decision. I did love your duet and was excited about the chances of an actual duet winning!But exceptions for this cannot be made, this was a mistake I had done and treated it as one. An apology to you guys will not make up for it but I can't do anything more than that.

Regarding the rules I believe next year I should include a more foolproof format. I did start to revise them a day before this happened, nice coincidence. For this situation though, you can't really blame them. I'm not here to teach you common sense.

Lastly about the twitter shitestorm which took place overnight and throughout the day - nobody proved my decision wrong with their nitpicking and rephrases. I don't even know what words should I put about this whole debicle other than unnessessary and immature. As for my tweet, yes, it was unprofessional, its how I roll. Deal with it. But if you're going to use that as an ammo, you're definitely aren't shooting straight. Instead of doing monkey see, monkey do, try to think first.

But anyway, a mistake is a mistake. Theres nothing more to be done except to learn from them. I run this alone and plenty know I'm not 100% perfect. Only a human.

Starting next year:
- I will be joined by an assistant host. As we all know, two heads are better than one - productivity wise and error catching aswell.
- The rules will be revised completely to be made more clear and understandable.
- The twitter shall be replaced completely by our Discord server. It will be used for everything - rules, suggestions, announcements, general banter, karaoke and the likes. All under one roof.


That is all from me for now. I apologise to aireealistic & litoshi for wasting their efforts and to everyone for this commotion.
The thread will remain locked for a few more days. Feel free to drop by the discord server, if anything. As for judging, it will continue as normal.
Main document is now disabled for viewing. Live judging doc is updated aswell.
Kyonko Hizara
*watches the rest of the judges*

Tokufi
oh boi 40%, expecting more update soon since its weekend
Topic Starter
Flanster

Tokufi wrote:

oh boi 40%, expecting more update soon since its weekend
I'm hoping for that too.
Topic Starter
Flanster

Results are now live!

This stage we had 4 judges available to evaluate your performances. 21 contestants passed due to a tie at the border of passing.

Check them results out!


Stage 3 will begin later today so get ready!
Daikyi
whee lol
mayank0
Thank you very much for having me, looking forward to next year :))... gl to the stage 3 participants hope u guys do well ^_^
Topic Starter
Flanster
Stage 3 is a go, sing whatever you want, no more pop shenanigans!
You know where to submit!

Deadline is August 28th. Heres a countdown timer!

https://countingdownto.com/countdown/os ... down-clock

Its a bit shorter due to late judges are late but whoever is not sure if they will make it ontime, please drop me a forum/discord PM so we can arrange something!
Endaris

- AyDJay - wrote:

There is one, and ONLY one song, that I could possibly sing this round.

D A N K M E M E S
well played
Kyonko Hizara
Gotta use both hands for this stage

Topic Starter
Flanster
Countdown timer shat its brix showing 1 day ahead.

This is correct.
https://countingdownto.com/countdown/st ... down-clock
MissTitannia
If we messaged you about the deadline ahead of time , the countdown doesnt count for us, but the time we agreed on, right?
Posting this here as i expect there were more people who messaged you. :)
Topic Starter
Flanster

MissTitannia wrote:

If we messaged you about the deadline ahead of time , the countdown doesnt count for us, but the time we agreed on, right?
Posting this here as i expect there were more people who messaged you. :)
Regardless, I don't want people to get confused. For those who wanted an extension, this wont impact anything as its based on the initial deadline plan.
Yuuji499
Is there like any deadline for this? Any requirement?
Topic Starter
Flanster

Yuuji499 wrote:

Is there like any deadline for this? Any requirement?
For participating? You can register for osu!idol at its beginning when registrations start. Theres no joining in during the stages.
Topic Starter
Flanster
And thats that with submissions, give us a week to go through these and get back to you. And this time its gonna be a week, I'll make sure.
ztrot
the tension is killing me
Garven
*hides*
Kyonko Hizara
*waits for Garven to fill in his last box*
Daikyi
Topic Starter
Flanster
You know who is getting fired.
Endaris
rest in piece stefan :(
Topic Starter
Flanster

NOW WITH STEFAN ON VACATION, WE CAN ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS!

Click HERE to view them.

Congratulatons to the Top 10 who will be advancing to Round 4! Prepare yourselves for the Rock/Metal stage.
Submissions will open on Monday and one week deadline as usual, stay tuned!

For those who didn't manage to make it, come back next year! Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger.
Lust
tfw last to finish
Kyonko Hizara
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