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03:43:385 (223385|1,223764|3,224144|5,224524|7,224904|0,225283|8,225663|0) - Make hitsounds quieter at this moment, please
03:43:385 (223385|1,223764|3,224144|5,224524|7,224904|0,225283|8,225663|0) - Make hitsounds quieter at this moment, please
IRC Consistency Check
2016-04-28 10:46 FrenzyLi: testplay possible i guess
2016-04-28 10:46 Kruzon: it's kinda crazy but..
2016-04-28 10:46 Kruzon: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/963781 SCREEN mode - Naked Dive]
2016-04-28 10:47 FrenzyLi: i play up to 5*
2016-04-28 10:47 Kruzon: let me know if you testplay i'll spec
2016-04-28 10:47 FrenzyLi: let's see
2016-04-28 10:47 FrenzyLi: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/963781 SCREEN mode - Naked Dive [lol]] <osu!mania> |9K|
2016-04-28 10:52 FrenzyLi: sorry i'm not that good with outer columns
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: sorry the hitsound.. is kinda ruining your gameplay + the awkward pattern
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: no lol
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: you did just fine
2016-04-28 10:52 FrenzyLi: hitsounds are cool i guess
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: nah
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: it's half asses
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: should've silent the whole thing
2016-04-28 10:52 FrenzyLi: just went out to get a pizza .w.
2016-04-28 10:52 FrenzyLi: hands fairly cold ;w;'
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: anyway, thanks a lot for testplay
2016-04-28 10:53 Kruzon: pizza will warm you up
2016-04-28 10:53 FrenzyLi: 00:22:878 - from here is good but is actually very challenging to read
2016-04-28 10:53 FrenzyLi: might want to add more visual aids in this part such as stairs
2016-04-28 10:53 FrenzyLi: but it's up to you
2016-04-28 10:53 Kruzon: no, you are right
2016-04-28 10:53 Kruzon: i will try to improve for better playability
2016-04-28 10:53 FrenzyLi: 00:49:271 - ln here?
2016-04-28 10:54 Kruzon: i decided to represent ln on such sound 00:49:840 (49840|5,49840|7) -
2016-04-28 10:54 Kruzon: not sure what it's called
2016-04-28 10:54 FrenzyLi: 01:14:524 (74524|3) - might work better on column 6 instead of 4
2016-04-28 10:55 Kruzon: agreed, moved
2016-04-28 10:55 FrenzyLi: that LN is ok i guess... not sure if you want more LN throughout the map
2016-04-28 10:55 FrenzyLi: 00:59:904 - this is good
2016-04-28 10:55 Kruzon: adding more ln will added fuel to fire
2016-04-28 10:55 Kruzon: player will cook me alive
2016-04-28 10:55 FrenzyLi: well... it's up to you. i'm a LN/10K player 'w'
2016-04-28 10:56 Kruzon: yeah glad you tested it out
2016-04-28 10:56 FrenzyLi: gimme 4 more minutes
2016-04-28 10:56 FrenzyLi: watching in editor
2016-04-28 10:56 Kruzon: also the stairs pattern does seem more comfortable ill go with this
2016-04-28 10:56 Kruzon: sure
2016-04-28 10:57 FrenzyLi: beware with 1,2,1 and 8,9,8 stairs
2016-04-28 10:57 FrenzyLi: they're very tricky and only place them in places appropriate
2016-04-28 10:57 FrenzyLi: i think you can justify 1,2,1 with it being 9K
2016-04-28 10:57 FrenzyLi: but it's still tricky nontheless
2016-04-28 10:58 Kruzon: yeah, im also worried about left sided column
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: 02:28:954 (148954|5,148954|1,148954|3,148954|7) -
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: these four notes
2016-04-28 10:58 Kruzon: anti pitch would definitely ruin the pattern
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: move to 1,3,7,9
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: 02:28:195 (148195|6,148195|2,148575|0,148575|8) - these 4 LN
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: end at 02:28:907 -
2016-04-28 10:58 Kruzon: alright, moved
2016-04-28 10:59 FrenzyLi: i'm a inverse LN mapper so I know what i'm doing here
2016-04-28 11:00 Kruzon: im not doubting you, however wouldnt extending the hold notes to 02:28:907 -
2016-04-28 11:01 Kruzon: would give more pressure to the player
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: well the gaps are up to you but i recommend 1/8 snap
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: * 1/8 gap
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: instead of 1/4 gap
2016-04-28 11:01 Kruzon: i see
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: my opinion is that the shorter gap is a visual cue to this shield
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: you can keep it for now and ask future testplayers if they prefer 1/4 gap or 1/8 gap
2016-04-28 11:02 FrenzyLi: but my vote is on 1/8
2016-04-28 11:02 FrenzyLi: 03:38:448 - these aren't doubles?
2016-04-28 11:02 Kruzon: oh my bad
2016-04-28 11:02 Kruzon: added 1 note
2016-04-28 11:02 FrenzyLi: and also double check similar places
2016-04-28 11:02 FrenzyLi: double check all similar places
2016-04-28 11:03 FrenzyLi: I think there's more than 1 place like that lol
2016-04-28 11:03 FrenzyLi: 03:40:347 - really tricky but I love this. if you receive at least 3 negative testplay feedback on this LN part, change it
2016-04-28 11:03 FrenzyLi: 03:49:461 - hmm
2016-04-28 11:03 FrenzyLi: 03:49:651 -hmm 'w'
2016-04-28 11:04 FrenzyLi: 03:50:980 (230980|7,230980|1,231170|2,231170|6) - then look at this 'w'
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: haha
2016-04-28 11:04 FrenzyLi: 03:50:980 (230980|1,230980|7,231170|6,231170|2) - etc
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: should've been 2 notes
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: my bad,, was in a hurry
2016-04-28 11:04 FrenzyLi: you're good =w=
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: upper half of the map
2016-04-28 11:04 FrenzyLi: everyone needs consistency check
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: is kinda
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: 03:50:980 (230980|7,230980|1,231170|2,231170|6) - 3 notes?
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: hmm
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: disregard this
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: wrong timestamp
2016-04-28 11:05 Kruzon: alright
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: 04:21:359 (261359|2,261359|6,261644|1,261644|7,261929|8,261929|0) -
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: triples each?
2016-04-28 11:06 Kruzon: oh this one
2016-04-28 11:06 Kruzon: agreed
2016-04-28 11:06 FrenzyLi: last thing is: consistency check on all white lines
2016-04-28 11:06 FrenzyLi: so i guess this will keep your map moving
2016-04-28 11:07 Kruzon: yeah
2016-04-28 11:07 Kruzon: im very thankful and appreciate your help
2016-04-28 11:07 Kruzon: could you post our conversation to mod thread? the least i can do is to kudos you
2016-04-28 11:07 FrenzyLi: hmm ok
2016-04-28 11:07 FrenzyLi: if you need future testplays esp on 8~10k you can give me a pm
2016-04-28 11:07 FrenzyLi: [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/443878 and an obligatory ad 'w']
2016-04-28 10:46 Kruzon: it's kinda crazy but..
2016-04-28 10:46 Kruzon: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/963781 SCREEN mode - Naked Dive]
2016-04-28 10:47 FrenzyLi: i play up to 5*
2016-04-28 10:47 Kruzon: let me know if you testplay i'll spec
2016-04-28 10:47 FrenzyLi: let's see
2016-04-28 10:47 FrenzyLi: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/963781 SCREEN mode - Naked Dive [lol]] <osu!mania> |9K|
2016-04-28 10:52 FrenzyLi: sorry i'm not that good with outer columns
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: sorry the hitsound.. is kinda ruining your gameplay + the awkward pattern
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: no lol
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: you did just fine
2016-04-28 10:52 FrenzyLi: hitsounds are cool i guess
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: nah
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: it's half asses
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: should've silent the whole thing
2016-04-28 10:52 FrenzyLi: just went out to get a pizza .w.
2016-04-28 10:52 FrenzyLi: hands fairly cold ;w;'
2016-04-28 10:52 Kruzon: anyway, thanks a lot for testplay
2016-04-28 10:53 Kruzon: pizza will warm you up
2016-04-28 10:53 FrenzyLi: 00:22:878 - from here is good but is actually very challenging to read
2016-04-28 10:53 FrenzyLi: might want to add more visual aids in this part such as stairs
2016-04-28 10:53 FrenzyLi: but it's up to you
2016-04-28 10:53 Kruzon: no, you are right
2016-04-28 10:53 Kruzon: i will try to improve for better playability
2016-04-28 10:53 FrenzyLi: 00:49:271 - ln here?
2016-04-28 10:54 Kruzon: i decided to represent ln on such sound 00:49:840 (49840|5,49840|7) -
2016-04-28 10:54 Kruzon: not sure what it's called
2016-04-28 10:54 FrenzyLi: 01:14:524 (74524|3) - might work better on column 6 instead of 4
2016-04-28 10:55 Kruzon: agreed, moved
2016-04-28 10:55 FrenzyLi: that LN is ok i guess... not sure if you want more LN throughout the map
2016-04-28 10:55 FrenzyLi: 00:59:904 - this is good
2016-04-28 10:55 Kruzon: adding more ln will added fuel to fire
2016-04-28 10:55 Kruzon: player will cook me alive
2016-04-28 10:55 FrenzyLi: well... it's up to you. i'm a LN/10K player 'w'
2016-04-28 10:56 Kruzon: yeah glad you tested it out
2016-04-28 10:56 FrenzyLi: gimme 4 more minutes
2016-04-28 10:56 FrenzyLi: watching in editor
2016-04-28 10:56 Kruzon: also the stairs pattern does seem more comfortable ill go with this
2016-04-28 10:56 Kruzon: sure
2016-04-28 10:57 FrenzyLi: beware with 1,2,1 and 8,9,8 stairs
2016-04-28 10:57 FrenzyLi: they're very tricky and only place them in places appropriate
2016-04-28 10:57 FrenzyLi: i think you can justify 1,2,1 with it being 9K
2016-04-28 10:57 FrenzyLi: but it's still tricky nontheless
2016-04-28 10:58 Kruzon: yeah, im also worried about left sided column
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: 02:28:954 (148954|5,148954|1,148954|3,148954|7) -
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: these four notes
2016-04-28 10:58 Kruzon: anti pitch would definitely ruin the pattern
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: move to 1,3,7,9
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: 02:28:195 (148195|6,148195|2,148575|0,148575|8) - these 4 LN
2016-04-28 10:58 FrenzyLi: end at 02:28:907 -
2016-04-28 10:58 Kruzon: alright, moved
2016-04-28 10:59 FrenzyLi: i'm a inverse LN mapper so I know what i'm doing here
2016-04-28 11:00 Kruzon: im not doubting you, however wouldnt extending the hold notes to 02:28:907 -
2016-04-28 11:01 Kruzon: would give more pressure to the player
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: well the gaps are up to you but i recommend 1/8 snap
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: * 1/8 gap
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: instead of 1/4 gap
2016-04-28 11:01 Kruzon: i see
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: my opinion is that the shorter gap is a visual cue to this shield
2016-04-28 11:01 FrenzyLi: you can keep it for now and ask future testplayers if they prefer 1/4 gap or 1/8 gap
2016-04-28 11:02 FrenzyLi: but my vote is on 1/8
2016-04-28 11:02 FrenzyLi: 03:38:448 - these aren't doubles?
2016-04-28 11:02 Kruzon: oh my bad
2016-04-28 11:02 Kruzon: added 1 note
2016-04-28 11:02 FrenzyLi: and also double check similar places
2016-04-28 11:02 FrenzyLi: double check all similar places
2016-04-28 11:03 FrenzyLi: I think there's more than 1 place like that lol
2016-04-28 11:03 FrenzyLi: 03:40:347 - really tricky but I love this. if you receive at least 3 negative testplay feedback on this LN part, change it
2016-04-28 11:03 FrenzyLi: 03:49:461 - hmm
2016-04-28 11:03 FrenzyLi: 03:49:651 -hmm 'w'
2016-04-28 11:04 FrenzyLi: 03:50:980 (230980|7,230980|1,231170|2,231170|6) - then look at this 'w'
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: haha
2016-04-28 11:04 FrenzyLi: 03:50:980 (230980|1,230980|7,231170|6,231170|2) - etc
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: should've been 2 notes
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: my bad,, was in a hurry
2016-04-28 11:04 FrenzyLi: you're good =w=
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: upper half of the map
2016-04-28 11:04 FrenzyLi: everyone needs consistency check
2016-04-28 11:04 Kruzon: is kinda
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: 03:50:980 (230980|7,230980|1,231170|2,231170|6) - 3 notes?
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: hmm
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: disregard this
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: wrong timestamp
2016-04-28 11:05 Kruzon: alright
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: 04:21:359 (261359|2,261359|6,261644|1,261644|7,261929|8,261929|0) -
2016-04-28 11:05 FrenzyLi: triples each?
2016-04-28 11:06 Kruzon: oh this one
2016-04-28 11:06 Kruzon: agreed
2016-04-28 11:06 FrenzyLi: last thing is: consistency check on all white lines
2016-04-28 11:06 FrenzyLi: so i guess this will keep your map moving
2016-04-28 11:07 Kruzon: yeah
2016-04-28 11:07 Kruzon: im very thankful and appreciate your help
2016-04-28 11:07 Kruzon: could you post our conversation to mod thread? the least i can do is to kudos you
2016-04-28 11:07 FrenzyLi: hmm ok
2016-04-28 11:07 FrenzyLi: if you need future testplays esp on 8~10k you can give me a pm
2016-04-28 11:07 FrenzyLi: [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/443878 and an obligatory ad 'w']
Kudosu me
SPOILER
2016-04-29 02:31 Kruzon: hello abraker, are you free? need your help in testing 9k
2016-04-29 02:31 Kruzon: it's almost 4 stars, just some area make the star spiked, quite bad i suppose lol
2016-04-29 02:32 abraker: alright
2016-04-29 02:32 abraker: Let's see it I can pass it lol
2016-04-29 02:32 abraker: prob not
2016-04-29 02:33 Kruzon: you may put no fail or easy, what i desire is your feedback
2016-04-29 02:33 Kruzon: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/963781 SCREEN mode - Naked Dive]
2016-04-29 02:37 abraker: did the sv just speed up =.= ?
2016-04-29 02:37 Kruzon: it slowed down
2016-04-29 02:37 Kruzon: then speed up
2016-04-29 02:37 Kruzon: i think
2016-04-29 02:37 Kruzon: lol
2016-04-29 02:37 abraker: that looked sped up to >1.0x ?
2016-04-29 02:38 Kruzon: 1.1
2016-04-29 02:38 abraker: =.= for how long?
2016-04-29 02:38 Kruzon: um.. not long
2016-04-29 02:38 Kruzon: prolly 10 secs
2016-04-29 02:38 Kruzon: i think i sped up around guitar stream
2016-04-29 02:38 Kruzon: then back to normal 1x
2016-04-29 02:39 abraker: anything faster than 1.0x shouldn't last more than a second in most cases. There is no excuse to artificially raise AR
2016-04-29 02:39 Kruzon: i see, it wasnt my intention but i will take notes
2016-04-29 02:41 Kruzon: i hope this warm you up as much as drinking coffee
2016-04-29 02:41 Kruzon: despite the awkward pattern, is there notable flaw?
2016-04-29 02:41 abraker: Well... I was about to go to sleep before you pm'd, so coffee isn't the best thing for me right now lol
2016-04-29 02:41 Kruzon: haha
2016-04-29 02:42 abraker: There was one part which had an iffy pattern
2016-04-29 02:43 Kruzon: the stairs on the left column is kinda torturing it seems
2016-04-29 02:43 abraker: Hmmm... can't pinpoint the time exactly, but this I think?
2016-04-29 02:43 abraker: 01:24:207 (84207|0,84207|5,84302|1,84302|6,84397|2,84397|7,84397|5) -
2016-04-29 02:43 Kruzon: ah, i'll fix this
2016-04-29 02:44 Kruzon: thanks a lot for testplaying, damn i should've take notes on your time first lol
2016-04-29 02:44 Kruzon: sorry
2016-04-29 02:44 abraker: Go through and try to eliminate paterns which branch out. Those are a bit of a night mare, especially when a chord follows it
2016-04-29 02:45 abraker: Ah, found it!
2016-04-29 02:45 abraker: WTF IS THIS???
2016-04-29 02:45 abraker: 02:27:435 (147435|5,147483|7,147530|1,147578|3,147625|5,147673|7,147720|1,147768|3,147815|7,147863|5,147910|3,147957|1,148005|7,148052|5,148100|3,148147|1) -
2016-04-29 02:45 Kruzon: it's
2016-04-29 02:45 Kruzon: i call it art
2016-04-29 02:46 Kruzon: previously it looks a lot more hellish
2016-04-29 02:46 Kruzon: than this one
2016-04-29 02:46 abraker: lol, I went total mindblock on this. It's appropriate, but any unsuspecting player would certainly miss this if they can't react in time
2016-04-29 02:47 Kruzon: it's probably because you are sleepy
2016-04-29 02:47 Kruzon: but you are right
2016-04-29 02:47 abraker: no it's because that's the only part which went 1/8 on me
2016-04-29 02:47 Kruzon: the previous tester
2016-04-29 02:47 Kruzon: yeaa
2016-04-29 02:48 Kruzon: it was meant for trill on 2 and 8 column but
2016-04-29 02:48 Kruzon: that'd hurt pinkies a lots
2016-04-29 02:48 Kruzon: so i tried centerized them but rip thumbs
2016-04-29 02:48 Kruzon: idk how to deal with this
2016-04-29 02:48 Kruzon: haha
2016-04-29 02:48 abraker: You can try doing 1/8 ladders with a couple instance AND BY A COUPLE I MEAN A COUPLE going to pinky
2016-04-29 02:49 abraker: Make sure ladders go into same direction
2016-04-29 02:49 Kruzon: yeah, good point
2016-04-29 02:50 Kruzon: also im sorry
2016-04-29 02:50 Kruzon: i forgot to cap the 1.1 speed burst
2016-04-29 02:50 Kruzon: rip
2016-04-29 02:50 abraker: I hate maps which go over the speed limit for too long
2016-04-29 02:51 Kruzon: ahh cappeed
2016-04-29 02:51 Kruzon: taht's what happen when you map while watching anime
2016-04-29 02:51 abraker: you map while animeing?
2016-04-29 02:52 Kruzon: i paused every now and then
2016-04-29 02:52 abraker: ...
2016-04-29 02:52 Kruzon: ofc it's not often
2016-04-29 02:52 Kruzon: just occasionally
2016-04-29 02:53 abraker: When I map I map. And when I map I take 2-5 hours of my life away. Time I will never get back. Oh gawd I am making mapping sound horrible
2016-04-29 02:53 Kruzon: omg
2016-04-29 02:53 Kruzon: i think you can map faster than that
2016-04-29 02:53 Kruzon: you need to yolo more in mapping
2016-04-29 02:53 abraker: I have a hard time thinking of good patterns.
2016-04-29 02:54 Kruzon: put here and there and voila it could turn out worst but if its good you save hours of time
2016-04-29 02:54 Kruzon: haha
2016-04-29 02:54 abraker: then a month later you find it in the graveyard :D
2016-04-29 02:56 abraker: Well then... all good on the map?
2016-04-29 02:56 Kruzon: sorry had to remove my cat
2016-04-29 02:56 abraker: o.- meow?
2016-04-29 02:56 Kruzon: well for now it's good, also could you post our conversation on thread?
IRC
01:08 Kruzon: hello nihil, do you play 9k 4stars map?
01:08 Kruzon: need help testplay
01:08 NlHIL: eh
01:08 NlHIL: give me
01:08 Kruzon: yayy
01:08 *Kruzon is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/963781 SCREEN mode - Naked Dive]
01:09 NlHIL: lol
01:09 NlHIL: eh
01:09 NlHIL: shitty slow dl
01:09 Kruzon: it's alright
01:09 NlHIL: I'll call you after dl
01:09 NlHIL: bye
01:09 NlHIL: ;w;
01:10 Kruzon: if done tell me
01:10 NlHIL: .
01:10 Kruzon: thanks again nihil
01:24 NlHIL: dled;w;
01:28 Kruzon: sorry
01:28 NlHIL: eh
01:28 Kruzon: sorry shit map
01:28 Kruzon: lol
01:28 NlHIL: nice map
01:29 NlHIL: but too difficult for me
01:29 NlHIL: and normal people
01:29 Kruzon: is there some part you think need change?
01:29 Kruzon: no
01:29 Kruzon: you did very good
01:29 NlHIL: hmm
01:29 Kruzon: i fail in 3 seconds
01:29 Kruzon: eventhough i made it
01:29 Kruzon: lol
01:29 NlHIL: 00:10:726 (10726|2,11581|3) -
01:30 Kruzon: i see
01:31 Kruzon: what do you think here 02:27:435 (147435|5,147483|7,147530|1,147578|3,147625|5,147673|7,147720|1,147768|3,147815|7,147863|5,147910|3,147957|1,148005|7,148052|5) -
01:31 NlHIL: 00:23:068 (23068|7) -
01:31 NlHIL: oh wait
01:32 NlHIL: nothing is but
01:32 NlHIL: *bad
01:32 NlHIL: but
01:33 NlHIL: 02:28:954 (148954|0,148954|2,148954|6,148954|8,148954|4) - seems really difficult
01:33 Kruzon: yes, i think so too
01:35 Kruzon: lastly, what do you think of guitar stream around here? 03:12:815 (192815|3,192878|2,192942|1,193005|3,193100|2,193195|4,193242|3,193290|2) -
01:35 Kruzon: can it be read?
01:35 NlHIL: hmm
01:36 NlHIL: .... can
01:37 Kruzon: it does seem crazy lol
Topic Starter
trying to make it as playable as possible 'w'