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Another Lie

Eternalie wrote:

Hanyu~

hope this might help

dadon
keys=1/2/3/4
[Lie's Basic]
The diff is overall good , just some part that are maybe slightly too tricky for newcomer (this is suggestion that you can deny if you wnat)

00:37:299 (37299|1,37549|1,37799|1) - this kind of notes could be tricky to catch up for newcomers imho, i'd suggest moving the middle note to another collumn
01:02:883 (62883|2) - move to 1 samd reason as above, this might be really tricky to catch up for people relatively new to the game (but you can keep it as a challenge for them aswell up to you)
01:13:299 (73299|2,73549|2,73799|2) - ^same suggestion as here
01:22:966 (82966|0,83633|0) - move thoose to 3 or 4 ? to make some hand balance here same reasons as stated above ^ to make it easier for newcomers imho
01:33:966 (93966|2) - add a LN here that ends here : 01:34:466 (94466|0) - according to : 01:33:299 (93299|1) - this is the same song that you follow

01:50:466 (110466|3) - move to 1 not same sound as previous note
01:53:133 (113133|2) - move to 2 ^ same reasoning
both according to : 01:55:633 (115633|3,115799|1) - < you didn't jack this one and it feels nice this way imho Nice catch
Other than blue are rejected :D
[Lie's Novice]
00:50:633 (50633|1,50883|1,51133|2,51383|2,51633|2,51799|1) - the melody changes here so it would be cool to make them as a stair or alternates instead of jacks Applied 1, beside that (those notes are same sound)
however you can say it's for the woosh song and then it's kinda okay so again up to you

00:53:299 (53299|1) - double here ? there is a kind of impact here imo
00:58:633 (58633|3) - ^ same suggestion , well here is special cause the previous pattern would make it kinda tricky
00:57:966 (57966|3,58049|2,58133|3,58216|2,58299|0,58383|1,58466|0,58549|1) - you could change this pattern to 4 1/2 LNs stream , that pattern is kinda 'hard' imo
01:03:633 (63633|0,63744|0,63855|3,63966|3) - this is definitely tricky I suggest a 1 2 4 3 pattern
01:09:299 (69299|1) - double here aswell ?
01:13:966 (73966|0,74049|1,74133|0,74216|1,74299|3,74383|2,74466|3,74549|2) - you could change this to two 1/1 LNs , again this pattern seems 'hard' for a normal

01:17:966 (77966|2) - move to 2 ?
01:18:299 (78299|0) - move to 1 ^ thoose make a nice stair

01:20:299 (80299|0,80966|0) - move to 3 both note or any other collumn , that would make a nice catchy rythm to play imho
01:23:966 (83966|3) - I suggest this consecutive jacks on a NM is rather tricky and complicated imho , it would work just fine in an HD tho
01:25:633 (85633|2,86299|2) - move them to 1 or 2 ? same suggestion as earlier for the hand balance thingy
01:46:799 (106799|0,107133|1) - how about making this two in the same collumn but not in the first one ? like for example the 2nd or 3rd collumn ?

Here goes, modded only basic and novice ,i'd probably do one more diff but it's food time \:D/ (lol sorry uwu)
anywaysu , Good Luck guys ! get my starry here :3/
Sorry eter, all about "double note" in Novice is rejected. Since i haven't use double note there, i don't need double if already "hard without double" (only double at start XD)
Thanks for mod
deadbill
Nice map m8, honesty your map is making me jealous
i may cant even do this shit right but im gonna try

Advanced diff

00:33:299 - This object is stacked on top of another object

if you are refering this part to main melody, then i present you to the list of ghost notes:
00:53:383 (53383|2,53633|3) -
00:53:966 (53966|1) -
00:54:133 (54133|0) -
00:54:716 (54716|3) -
and so on. i will post some pics instead as pattern suggestion lol

00:53:299 -

00:54:633 -

00:55:966 -

00:57:299 -
or
and so on since the melody is repeated again and again

if you also refer to barely heard backing melody, then the pattern arrangement is so confusing
yea, trance melody dude, always consist of low and high pitched melody where the low melody is backing the high-pitched-main melody

so please at least divide the layer between two melodies. only if it is the case.

also if you are wondering why this part sounds so complex
well suprise, there is a melody fill :)

pitch wise, kinda like this
00:53:299 - (set speed to 70% to cleary hear it)

and the backing melody is like this
pitch wise
00:53:299 -

welp i just rant only at this part, the rest is cool, but i really suggest you to revise this part m8

goodluck! :)

edit: fking grammar. too much beer and modding, nuff said
- Ly0572 -
halllooo~
mod req by AnLie~

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Basic
00:01:549 - i think its fine to map the sound here since there is a lot of patterns that is hard for this so that should be fine if u add
00:01:799 - ^
00:02:883 - ^
00:03:133 - ^
00:04:216 - ^
00:04:883 - ^
00:54:299 (54299|2,54633|1) - move this to the left~ comfortability~
01:00:966 (60966|1) - move to |1| ^^
01:07:966 - suggestion here

01:41:299 (101299|0) - move to |3|
then 01:41:966 (101966|2,102299|0) - switdh col
01:43:133 (103133|1,103299|2) - move to the left~ coz its a little empty in |1|
01:43:466 (103466|1) - move to |4| ^
01:45:299 (105299|0,105633|1,105966|2,106299|1) - ctrl+h
novice
00:19:299 (19299|1) - consider deleting this~ 3 Ln is too much
00:31:966 (31966|1,31966|0) - delete one of them
00:33:133 (33133|0,33299|0) - delete
01:16:633 - suggestion from here

01:23:966 - here

01:30:633 (90633|1) - same as the first one
01:38:216 (98216|2) - move this here 01:38:299 -
advance
00:15:799 (15799|1,15966|2,16299|1) - ctrl+h more comfy~
00:33:133 - i believe this deserves a note too :3
01:37:133 (97133|2) - try making this a not so long note xD ends here 01:37:299 -
01:43:633 - also deserves a Ln like u did here 01:39:299 -

gl guys :3
Another Lie

- Ly0572 - wrote:

halllooo~
mod req by AnLie~

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Basic
00:01:549 - i think its fine to map the sound here since there is a lot of patterns that is hard for this so that should be fine if u add
00:01:799 - ^
00:02:883 - ^
00:03:133 - ^
00:04:216 - ^
00:04:883 - ^ I won't add them since my note is purely hard without that :D
00:54:299 (54299|2,54633|1) - move this to the left~ comfortability~ No, per LN i use 1 3 1 3 / 2 4 2 4
01:00:966 (60966|1) - move to |1| ^^ same ^^
01:07:966 - suggestion here Nice, re-arranged somehow

01:41:299 (101299|0) - move to |3| Re-arranged some part
then 01:41:966 (101966|2,102299|0) - switdh col Nope, comfy enough
01:43:133 (103133|1,103299|2) - move to the left~ coz its a little empty in |1| Fine
01:43:466 (103466|1) - move to |4| ^ Fine
01:45:299 (105299|0,105633|1,105966|2,106299|1) - ctrl+h ah ah
novice
00:19:299 (19299|1) - consider deleting this~ 3 Ln is too much Well, keep for balance density
00:31:966 (31966|1,31966|0) - delete one of them
00:33:133 (33133|0,33299|0) - delete ^ No, clap & dum is 2 loud enough to me, those sound are 2 notes
01:16:633 - suggestion from here No, last small note is dum / loud enough.Pitch relevancy theory is: "last column from left is highest"

01:23:966 - here Well, if i'm adding your pattern... that is somehow unconsistent

01:30:633 (90633|1) - same as the first one No, i'm following the "Pitch relevancy theory"
01:38:216 (98216|2) - move this here 01:38:299 -Well, i didn't use pitch theory here. But i'm using comfortable playing here

gl guys :3
Aye~ thanks for mod :D
Koibenii
Hi! Mod requested from queue
I dunno if I could find much considering there are already so many mods in this song, i'll try my best o wo)b
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Lie's Basic
00:53:299 (53299|0,53633|2,53966|0,54299|2) - i dunno starting from this section and similar sections ahead you could transfer the notes in [3] to [2] so that the left/right hand only handles the single notes and the other hand handles the long notes. Idk just a suggestion, considering this is a Basic difficulty and Basic = Easy, therefore we shouldn't make it too hard for entry-level 4k players since managing the LNs with added single notes messes up their rhythm so bad.
Lie's Novice
00:53:299 - oh you removed the LNs in this diff. You could also put here the LNs you put in Basic here imo for consistency between diffs.
ADVANCED
00:27:966 (27966|1) - i think this should be in [4] since it has a different sound than 00:27:633 (27633|1)
00:54:133 (54133|0,54216|1,54299|0,54383|1,54466|0,54549|1) - I would advise you to re-structure these left/right hand trills and probably introduce it in the higher diffs :)
01:39:216 (99216|1) - i'd probably remove this note to follow the pattern that you've done in 01:38:799 (98799|2,98883|0,98883|1) , 01:41:466 (101466|3,101549|2,101549|1,101716|0,101799|1,101799|2) , and similar sections.
EXHAUST
00:13:966 (13966|3,13966|0) - shouldn't this notes be a triple and 00:14:133 (14133|1,14133|3,14133|0) a double? since the former has the sdvx sound it should be emphasized more
00:14:299 (14299|1,14299|3,14466|0,14466|1,14466|2) - ^same issue
00:35:966 (35966|3,36216|2) - should be ctrl + J, to avoid anchor at 00:35:466 (35466|3,35633|3,35799|3,35966|3)
INFINITE
00:15:383 (15383|3,15466|2,15549|3,15633|2) - i think should be ctrl + J to avoid anchor at 00:14:883 (14883|3,15049|3,15216|3,15383|3,15549|3)
Aaaaand other than those I don't think I would see any more problems. Last diff was rigid enough I guess. I hope my mod helped. Best of luck!!
Another Lie

JztCallMeRon wrote:

Hi! Mod requested from queue
I dunno if I could find much considering there are already so many mods in this song, i'll try my best o wo)b
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Lie's Basic
00:53:299 (53299|0,53633|2,53966|0,54299|2) - i dunno starting from this section and similar sections ahead you could transfer the notes in [3] to [2] so that the left/right hand only handles the single notes and the other hand handles the long notes. Idk just a suggestion, considering this is a Basic difficulty and Basic = Easy, therefore we shouldn't make it too hard for entry-level 4k players since managing the LNs with added single notes messes up their rhythm so bad. Nice eye, also i use consistency there. So, i removed all LN section.
Lie's Novice
00:53:299 - oh you removed the LNs in this diff. You could also put here the LNs you put in Basic here imo for consistency between diffs. Re-arranged as basic diff
Aaaaand other than those I don't think I would see any more problems. Last diff was rigid enough I guess. I hope my mod helped. Best of luck!!
Nice
Topic Starter
Loebad434
UPDATED, THANKS FOR MODS

JztCallMeRon wrote:

Exhaust : 00:13:966 (13966|3,13966|0) - shouldn't this notes be a triple and 00:14:133 (14133|1,14133|3,14133|0) a double? since the former has the sdvx sound it should be emphasized more
switch sound, 3 note after double thrill kinda hard tbh...

JztCallMeRon wrote:

00:14:299 (14299|1,14299|3,14466|0,14466|1,14466|2) - ^same issue
same reply
_Gaster
hiiiiii
modded the INFINITE diff in-game.
Topic Starter
Loebad434

noftrahtcehe wrote:

hiiiiii
modded the INFINITE diff in-game.
glad i saved the log b4... ==

Chatlog
09:14 Loebad434: hey nof
09:15 Loebad434: care for a mod?
09:15 noftrahtcehe: ... maybe...? what song?
09:15 Loebad434: [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/447834 this tho]
09:17 noftrahtcehe: i'm a bad modder... but i'll try.
09:20 Loebad434: ok thanks
09:22 noftrahtcehe: 00:19:966 - 00:20:966 - you might wanna map this part.
09:22 Loebad434: which diff?
09:22 noftrahtcehe: hardest
09:22 noftrahtcehe: 00:21:299 - this too
09:22 noftrahtcehe: 00:21:633 -
09:23 noftrahtcehe: 00:21:966 - actually wut
09:23 noftrahtcehe: i think i need a headset... darn it i don't have a headset anymore
09:23 Loebad434: yep...
09:23 noftrahtcehe: 00:24:633 - wrong
09:24 noftrahtcehe: 00:29:633 - add smth
09:24 noftrahtcehe: 00:30:299 (30299|0,30341|1,30383|2,30424|3) - nope
09:24 Loebad434: wait wait
09:25 Loebad434: 00:24:633 - add something here?
09:25 noftrahtcehe: oh... too fast?
09:25 noftrahtcehe: sry.
09:25 noftrahtcehe: no, the mapping is wrong.
09:26 noftrahtcehe: oh, and yes, add something on that exact timing point
09:26 Loebad434: no... i guess its fine along the LNs
09:26 noftrahtcehe: 00:24:799 (24799|3) - these should even have only 1/6 size
09:27 Loebad434: 00:30:299 (30299|0,30341|1,30383|2,30424|3) - i guess this fine with 25% speed
09:27 noftrahtcehe: oh... yea.
09:27 Loebad434: 00:24:799 (24799|3) - it is 1/6
09:27 noftrahtcehe: drat i need earplugs.
09:28 noftrahtcehe: yep.
09:28 Loebad434: lol earplug
09:28 noftrahtcehe: 00:25:133 (25133|2) - also cut this to 2 LN, the other starting 00:25:299 - here
09:28 noftrahtcehe: i have bad hearing.
09:29 noftrahtcehe: 00:31:466 - to 00:34:299 - add more notes.
09:30 noftrahtcehe: 00:34:799 - my own opinion... 2 mini-jacks
09:30 Loebad434: 00:25:133 (25133|2) - nah... this just 1 LN
09:30 noftrahtcehe: 00:35:966 - don't you wanna add SVs to the song? i mean, i think it's fine since Fresh Chicken already made it cool
09:30 noftrahtcehe: the tune changes tho...
09:31 Loebad434: 00:34:799 (34799|3) - is these ok with Jack and LN?
09:32 noftrahtcehe: yes.
09:33 Loebad434: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6787816 like this?]
09:33 noftrahtcehe: yes
09:33 Loebad434: ok
09:35 noftrahtcehe: 00:41:633 - add another note so it goes 3 2 1
09:35 noftrahtcehe: wait actually nvm that last one.
09:36 noftrahtcehe: 00:42:383 - 00:42:549 - ugh i'm tempted to quadstream it
09:37 noftrahtcehe: 00:43:549 - and 00:43:883 - add.
09:37 noftrahtcehe: 00:46:883 (46883|1,46883|0,47133|3,47133|2,47466|1,47466|0) - just 1 note
09:37 noftrahtcehe: drat lotta spaces i wanna add a note in but will cause quadstream ._.
09:39 Loebad434: where?
09:39 Loebad434: nah no quadstream
09:39 noftrahtcehe: yep.
09:39 Loebad434: someone i asked b4 says that
09:39 noftrahtcehe: psh ._.
09:40 noftrahtcehe: wait a sec... HOLY SHIT I REMEMBER THIS SONG NOW
09:40 noftrahtcehe: this is in one of the easy 4K dans
09:41 Loebad434: lol wut
09:41 noftrahtcehe: THERE
09:41 noftrahtcehe: i knew it... its NOFX is the boss song of 3rd dan
09:42 noftrahtcehe: do you know the dans?
09:42 *noftrahtcehe is listening to Various Artists - 4K 3rd Dan
09:42 Loebad434: nope
09:42 noftrahtcehe: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/304816
09:43 Loebad434: oh lol
09:45 Loebad434: so... any other?
09:46 noftrahtcehe: 00:57:466 - and 00:57:716 - add
09:46 noftrahtcehe: 00:58:299 - you don't wanna quadstream but you have this ._. smh
09:47 noftrahtcehe: 01:09:299 - just quadstream it... it's INFINITE anyway. hard diff, hard patterns.
09:47 Loebad434: no no no... no quadstream
09:48 noftrahtcehe: psh.
09:48 noftrahtcehe: 01:19:466 - add
09:48 noftrahtcehe: 01:21:466 - jacks?
09:48 noftrahtcehe: 01:23:966 - hands instead of jumps?
09:48 Loebad434: 01:19:466 - nope
09:49 noftrahtcehe: 01:33:133 - jacks?
09:49 noftrahtcehe: 01:33:799 - to 01:33:883 - jacks?
09:49 Loebad434: wait
09:49 Loebad434: what was hands?
09:49 noftrahtcehe: 3 notes instead of 2
09:50 noftrahtcehe: jump, hand, quad
09:50 noftrahtcehe: 2, 3, 4
09:50 Loebad434: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6787895 not this?]
09:50 noftrahtcehe: 01:34:466 - to 01:34:549 - jacks pls ._.
09:51 noftrahtcehe: exactly that
09:51 noftrahtcehe: that is glorious
09:52 Loebad434: lul
09:52 noftrahtcehe: 01:36:133 - to 01:37:299 - i'm thinking jumpstream
09:52 noftrahtcehe: there's not much bang for it to be hands
09:54 noftrahtcehe: 01:40:633 (100633|3,100633|1,100716|0,100716|2,100799|3,100799|1,100883|0,100883|2) - two sets of jacks?
09:54 Loebad434: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6787908 this?]
09:55 noftrahtcehe: nonono just jumpstream lol.
09:55 noftrahtcehe: that's handstream...
09:56 noftrahtcehe: 01:36:049 - also don't add here
09:56 noftrahtcehe: oh wait nvm do add there
09:56 noftrahtcehe: ugh i need earplugs so bad
09:57 noftrahtcehe: 00:36:633 - add an LN that reaches 00:36:966 -
09:57 Loebad434: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6787921 this?]
09:58 noftrahtcehe: not either.
09:58 Loebad434: how to jumpstream
09:58 noftrahtcehe: don't put hands in the stream
10:00 noftrahtcehe: just a 1/4 stream but put another note every 1/1 and 1/2
10:00 noftrahtcehe: just 2 max notes ._.
10:00 noftrahtcehe: 01:36:133 - except this one and 01:37:299 - this one. 3 notes here.
10:02 Loebad434: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6787935 this?]
10:03 noftrahtcehe: yes.
10:04 Loebad434: ok ok
10:05 Loebad434: so any other?
10:08 noftrahtcehe: 01:46:633 - to 01:47:299 - turn hands to jacks and add an LN instead
10:09 noftrahtcehe: other than that... no more.
10:10 Loebad434: hands?
10:12 noftrahtcehe: i think we just sufficiently discussed what hands are
10:12 Loebad434: no no...
10:12 noftrahtcehe: those are 3 notes at a time, right? turn them into just 2 notes at a time and add a hold across that duration
10:14 Loebad434: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6787993 this?]
10:15 noftrahtcehe: uhh... just the duration i posted above. remove the second LN/
10:16 Loebad434: i dunno... i guess the LN was just right tho
10:16 noftrahtcehe: ok then.
10:16 Loebad434: so its done?
10:17 noftrahtcehe: yep.
10:17 Loebad434: ok
Davin Fortune
Hello, since i m4m with Another Lie then i''m going to focus his diff first

Dasar Untuk Bohong Orang (Basic mksdnya :v)
00:04:466 (4466|3,5133|0) - delete, to make they like 00:02:633 (2633|2,3966|1) - cause at there you don't use the space between the start and end, but here you use it
00:07:966 - Make it like this just like you do in 00:10:633 -
00:15:966 (15966|2,16299|3) - move to 4 3 so they won't connect/sync with the note under it
00:23:633 (23633|0) - delete and change into LN which end at the starting of the next LN
00:25:133 (25133|1) - ^
00:34:299 (34299|3) - ^
00:52:966 (52966|3) - change into LN which end at 00:53:133 - cause the beat at there aren't beat in a beat but the sound's stop delayed so better use LN
01:18:799 - add note like in 00:10:633 -
01:27:799 (87799|2) - Change into LN like above mods
01:38:299 (98299|3) - change into LN which end at 01:38:466 - cause the beat at there aren't beat in a beat but the sound's stop delayed so better use LN
01:43:633 (103633|2) - make this LN's length as long as 01:43:466 (103466|3) -

Novicenya boongan
00:07:966 - I think better make it like you do in Basic
00:33:133 - Since the beat play faster than should be like this
01:27:799 (87799|2) - like thing i say in basic diff (change into LN), pls apply to all if have same problem
01:44:966 (104966|0) - like i say in basic diff about change it into LN
Another Lie

Davin Fortune wrote:

Hello, since i m4m with Another Lie then i''m going to focus his diff first

Dasar Untuk Bohong Orang (Basic mksdnya :v)
00:04:466 (4466|3,5133|0) - delete, to make they like 00:02:633 (2633|2,3966|1) - cause at there you don't use the space between the start and end, but here you use it k
00:07:966 - Make it like this just like you do in 00:10:633 - k
00:15:966 (15966|2,16299|3) - move to 4 3 so they won't connect/sync with the note under it k
00:23:633 (23633|0) - delete and change into LN which end at the starting of the next LN k
00:25:133 (25133|1) - ^ k
00:34:299 (34299|3) - ^ k
00:52:966 (52966|3) - change into LN which end at 00:53:133 - cause the beat at there aren't beat in a beat but the sound's stop delayed so better use LN k
01:18:799 - add note like in 00:10:633 - k
01:27:799 (87799|2) - Change into LN like above mods no
01:38:299 (98299|3) - change into LN which end at 01:38:466 - cause the beat at there aren't beat in a beat but the sound's stop delayed so better use LN k
01:43:633 (103633|2) - make this LN's length as long as 01:43:466 (103466|3) - changed by other way

Novicenya boongan
00:07:966 - I think better make it like you do in Basic changed by other way
00:33:133 - Since the beat play faster than should be like this jgn terlalu detil mas, ini NOVICE
01:27:799 (87799|2) - like thing i say in basic diff (change into LN), pls apply to all if have same problem k
01:44:966 (104966|0) - like i say in basic diff about change it into LN k
Well, lumayan daripada nothing
LinkTaylord
Hello :^) I'm from RRM modding queue!



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Lie's BASIC
00:01:300 - Check this screenshot. I think those sounds are too loud to be ignored even in a basic.
00:21:966 (21966|1,23299|1,24633|3,25966|2,27299|2,28633|2) - If you want less difficulty you can erase those notes, cuz the song is a bit weak.
00:36:216 (36216|1,37549|1) - Move to 1 cuz the anchors are eww.
00:58:299 - Add a LN in 3.
01:02:883 (62883|2) - Move to 2 or 4.
01:13:549 (73549|2) - Move to 4.
01:23:299 (83299|0,83633|0) - Move to 4.

Lie's NOVICE
First at all. See the kiai differences between novice and advanced. Novice is the same than the basic and the advanced is PASDALSKDJKLA freaking hard, so, to balance the spread, I highly recommend that make the kiai part more hard in the novice adding patterns like this, or maybe this.

01:19:966 (79966|0,80299|0,80633|0,80966|0,82633|0,82966|0,83299|0,83633|0) - Those anchors, is better to follow the beep, as you did here 01:54:633 (114633|0,114883|3,115133|0,115383|3) - .

01:38:633 - At this part, again is almost the same than the basic. You can do something a little bit more hard, try to add this pattern and erase the long notes.
There's a desbalance between novice and advanced, it can fuck your burble or heart.


Good luck with you map!
Another Lie

LinkTaylord wrote:

Hello :^) I'm from RRM modding queue!



1|2|3|4
Lie's BASIC
00:01:300 - Check this screenshot. I think those sounds are too loud to be ignored even in a basic.
00:21:966 (21966|1,23299|1,24633|3,25966|2,27299|2,28633|2) - If you want less difficulty you can erase those notes, cuz the song is a bit weak.
00:36:216 (36216|1,37549|1) - Move to 1 cuz the anchors are eww.
00:58:299 - Add a LN in 3.
01:02:883 (62883|2) - Move to 2 or 4.
01:13:549 (73549|2) - Move to 4.
01:23:299 (83299|0,83633|0) - Move to 4.
All your point are approved. But, I arranged it in my way.
Lie's NOVICE
First at all. See the kiai differences between novice and advanced. Novice is the same than the basic and the advanced is PASDALSKDJKLA freaking hard, so, to balance the spread, I highly recommend that make the kiai part more hard in the novice adding patterns like this, or maybe this.

01:19:966 (79966|0,80299|0,80633|0,80966|0,82633|0,82966|0,83299|0,83633|0) - Those anchors, is better to follow the beep, as you did here 01:54:633 (114633|0,114883|3,115133|0,115383|3) - .

01:38:633 - At this part, again is almost the same than the basic. You can do something a little bit more hard, try to add this pattern and erase the long notes.
There's a desbalance between novice and advanced, it can fuck your burble or heart.


Good luck with you map!
I'll update later.
Amethyst507
Not sure if anything's changed besides what i've modded yesterday and two days ago
But anyway, there it is:

IRC with LoeBad434 as at 20 Dec 2016
20:54 Amethyst507: im quite ready
20:54 Loebad434: ok ok
20:54 Amethyst507: i havent check basic yet, but anyway i'll get to the 3 diffs i've completed
20:55 Amethyst507: lemme afk for a sec, i'll get to the point once im done
20:55 Loebad434: basic & novice was Lie's
20:55 Loebad434: k
20:56 Amethyst507: k im done
20:57 Loebad434: ok ok
20:57 Amethyst507: wew it's been so long i even got gravity ver of the map
20:57 Loebad434: it is ==
20:57 Loebad434: i was looking for BN actually
20:58 Amethyst507: hard time finding eh, same problem
20:58 *Amethyst507 is editing REDALiCE - Flower REDALiCE Remix [mod 1]
20:58 Loebad434: u know...
20:58 Amethyst507: whoops, np wrong one, it's novice
20:58 Loebad434: oh novice?
20:58 Amethyst507: 00:06:299 (6299|1) - to column 4, what do you think?
20:59 Loebad434: wait wait
20:59 Loebad434: it's lie's GD tho for the novice diff...
20:59 Loebad434: but lemme just check... post the mod for him later
21:00 Amethyst507: sure, i mutual him alr
21:00 Loebad434: ok then
21:00 Amethyst507: in that case, i'll mod his gd when he is online, let's go to the other diff
21:00 Loebad434: ok
21:01 *Amethyst507 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/962656 REDALiCE - Flower REDALiCE Remix [ADVANCED]]
21:02 Amethyst507: for advance, seems fine for me, just 1 minor change and it's done i guess
21:02 *Loebad434 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/962656 REDALiCE - Flower REDALiCE Remix [ADVANCED]]
21:02 Loebad434: where?
21:03 Amethyst507: 01:56:633 (116633|3) - to 3, 01:56:716 (116716|0) - to 2
21:04 Loebad434: 01:56:716 (116716|1) - its alrd at 2
21:05 Amethyst507: um.. alr u mean it was like that earlier?
21:05 Loebad434: yep
21:06 Amethyst507: hm, i remember when i update it was 4 1
21:06 Loebad434: try update again
21:07 Amethyst507: alright, i seen it
21:09 Amethyst507: ok, the next one is going to be a little big
21:09 Loebad434: updated?
21:10 Amethyst507: you updated again??? i updated like 3 mins ago lol
21:11 Loebad434: i asked u lol
21:11 Amethyst507: yes i did
21:11 Loebad434: alrd updated all diff 25 hours ago
21:12 Loebad434: ok then
21:13 Amethyst507: lemme take a screenshot
21:13 Loebad434: of
21:13 Loebad434: ?
21:13 Loebad434: what screenshot?
21:13 Amethyst507: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6851843
21:14 Amethyst507: at 00:02:299 - , was 12 34 12, change to 14 23 14
21:14 Loebad434: what diff?
21:14 Amethyst507: advanced
21:15 Amethyst507: 00:03:133 (3133|3) - move to 3, then ctrl+h
21:15 Amethyst507: 00:02:883 (2883|2,2883|0,3133|1,3133|3) - ctrl+h
21:15 Amethyst507: w8 i messed up D:
21:16 Loebad434: actually that was ok
21:16 Amethyst507: at 00:02:883 - , was 24 14, change to 13 24
21:17 Loebad434: done
21:17 Amethyst507: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6851864
21:17 Amethyst507: at 00:04:466 - , was 13 24 13 14, change to 14 23 12 34
21:18 Loebad434: nah i think i'll keep that part
21:19 Amethyst507: alright, advanced done, to infinite
21:20 *Loebad434 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/962658 REDALiCE - Flower REDALiCE Remix [INFINITE]]
21:20 Amethyst507: 00:04:466 (4466|2) - to 2
21:20 Amethyst507: what do you think?
21:20 Loebad434: nah... keep it the same with the next
21:21 Amethyst507: yeah, just this one, the one above keep it
21:21 Loebad434: nah..
21:21 Amethyst507: do not move 00:05:133 (5133|1) - , 00:05:299 (5299|1) - to 3
21:21 Amethyst507: how about this?
21:24 Loebad434: nah
21:24 Amethyst507: ok
21:24 Loebad434: 00:04:883 (4883|2,4883|0,4883|1) - this sign as pattern change
21:25 Amethyst507: alright
21:26 Amethyst507: optional: add a ln at column 1 01:09:133 - , end at 01:09:299 -
21:27 Loebad434: ah yes... that
21:28 Amethyst507: there is a sound at this point, seems empty without a note here,
21:28 Amethyst507: imo*
21:28 Loebad434: where?
21:29 Amethyst507: the same point where i said add a ln, just giving my opinion why i wanted to add it
21:30 Loebad434: oh
21:30 Loebad434: k
21:32 Amethyst507: another optional thing: 01:12:133 (72133|0,72133|1,72966|3,72966|2,73133|2,73133|3,73216|1,73299|3,73299|0,73299|2) - ctrl+h these
21:32 Loebad434: nah...
21:33 Amethyst507: this is to reduce the taps column 4 give
21:33 Amethyst507: but nvm, just optional right
21:34 Loebad434: nah its fineas it is i guess
21:34 Loebad434: *fine as
21:36 Loebad434: so...
21:36 Amethyst507: ok, this is the last one
21:36 Loebad434: any other?
21:36 Amethyst507: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6851957
21:36 Amethyst507: 01:13:966 -
21:37 Loebad434: nah that jack was from previous mod
21:37 Amethyst507: the ln here 01:16:633 - goes to 3
21:37 Loebad434: oh wait
21:37 Amethyst507: hm, ok
21:37 Amethyst507: 01:14:383 - there is a sound here, just adding a note here to cover it up
21:39 Loebad434: no sound i heard
21:39 Loebad434: nope... no sound
21:40 Amethyst507: i guess is headphone problems i guess
21:40 Loebad434: nope... alrd tried 25%, 50% speed
21:40 Amethyst507: my headphone problem*
21:40 Loebad434: kek
21:41 *Amethyst507 is done
21:41 Amethyst507: anything useful u find?
21:41 Loebad434: ok
21:41 Loebad434: the LN xD
21:41 Amethyst507: the only 1 :\
21:41 Amethyst507: oh wait, for advanced
21:42 *Loebad434 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/962656 REDALiCE - Flower REDALiCE Remix [ADVANCED]]
21:42 Amethyst507: i guess is the new patterns at 00:02:299 - which is good right
21:43 Amethyst507: starting from 00:04:466 - and above, it's a reject
21:43 Loebad434: ah it is
21:44 Amethyst507: so may i save log and i post it at forums after im settled with lie?
21:44 Loebad434: so... its done?
21:44 Amethyst507: yes
21:44 Loebad434: ok
21:44 Amethyst507: im summarizing the good mods, if nothing is good im not gonna save log
21:45 Loebad434: nah nah... all mods are good
21:45 Loebad434: i appreciate opinion
21:46 Amethyst507: ok, i gotta go, i'll post it someday
21:46 Amethyst507: thanks for your time
21:46 Loebad434: ok
lazy pack*
-21:14 Amethyst507: at 00:02:299 - , was 12 34 12, change to 14 23 14
21:14 Loebad434: what diff?
21:14 Amethyst507: advanced
21:15 Amethyst507: 00:03:133 (3133|3) - move to 3, then ctrl+h
21:15 Amethyst507: 00:02:883 (2883|2,2883|0,3133|1,3133|3) - ctrl+h
21:15 Amethyst507: w8 i messed up D:
21:16 Loebad434: actually that was ok

-21:26 Amethyst507: optional: add a ln at column 1 01:09:133 - , end at 01:09:299 -
21:27 Loebad434: ah yes... that

IRC with Lie as at 21 Dec 2016
10:28 Amethyst507: my mod is ready
10:29 Amethyst507: im settled with loebad irc yesterday, now it's your gd's turn
10:29 Another Lie: ok
10:29 Amethyst507: tell me if you are ready, im not sure if you are busy atm
10:29 Another Lie: which diff?
10:29 *Another Lie not really busy :D
10:29 *Another Lie is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/963219 REDALiCE - Flower REDALiCE Remix [Lie's BASIC]]
10:29 Another Lie: or novice?
10:29 Amethyst507: the other one
10:30 Another Lie: go :3
10:30 Another Lie: are you already update them? basic & novice?
10:30 Another Lie: update, then mod :D
10:30 Amethyst507: both are updated
10:30 Another Lie: ok
10:30 Amethyst507: im only gonna do sth for basic
10:31 Amethyst507: w8 i messed up
10:31 Amethyst507: for novice, im lazy to do sth for basic, sry about that
10:31 Another Lie: lol
10:31 Another Lie: np
10:32 Amethyst507: 00:06:299 - move from 2 to 4, what do you think?
10:32 Another Lie: not really that strong pitch
10:32 Another Lie: keep :)
10:33 Amethyst507: how am i gonna say about 00:11:299 -
10:33 Another Lie: what about it?
10:34 Another Lie: well, if this 00:06:299 (6299|1) - compared with this 00:11:299 (11299|3) -
10:34 Another Lie: the stronger one is this 00:11:299 (11299|3) -
10:35 Amethyst507: cut down the ln at 00:11:299 - to end at 00:11:466 - , then add another ln at 3 to end at the same point where the first ln used to end
10:35 Amethyst507: was this at a previous mod??
10:35 Another Lie: idk
10:35 *Another Lie forget the previous mod
10:36 Another Lie: but i prefer keep this 00:11:299 (11299|3) - because the abstract sound is still long enough
10:36 Amethyst507: so the ln at 00:11:466 - 3 is fine, isnt it
10:37 Another Lie: oh here 00:11:466 - are you focused about "dum" sound?
10:37 Another Lie: "dum" then abstract?
10:37 Amethyst507: preety much
10:37 Another Lie: well, in NOVICE diff. No need to mapped in detail
10:37 Another Lie: I'm focused on main sound, not sub sound
10:37 Another Lie: hear with 100%
10:38 Amethyst507: hm, i see
10:39 Another Lie: i only used valid reason to map. And i hope that didn't upset you :D
10:39 Another Lie: please continue
10:39 Amethyst507: i heard of the sound too, im just asking if you wanna add that sound only
10:43 Amethyst507: something optional: add ln at 4 00:29:299 - , end at 00:29:799 -
10:43 Amethyst507: then, move 00:29:799 (29799|3,30299|2) - to the left by 1
10:44 Another Lie: i see, you focused on long pitch right now
10:44 Another Lie: 00:29:299 (29299|2,29299|3) - dum is stronger pitch in current section
10:44 Another Lie: also longer dum i heard now
10:44 Another Lie: but, i'll consider it
10:45 Amethyst507: is it a yes or no
10:45 Amethyst507: sorry i just woke up like 45 mins ago
10:45 Another Lie: maybe not both, still consider it for next player who mention this later
10:46 Another Lie: if another player mention this part, i will apply
10:46 Amethyst507: sure
10:46 Another Lie: please continue
10:46 Amethyst507: there is not much i can abt the next one
10:47 Another Lie: there is, like this part 00:34:633 -
10:47 Another Lie: but i already add dum haha
10:47 Another Lie: you can check for next part
10:47 Amethyst507: ok
10:47 Another Lie: there is still much :D
10:48 Amethyst507: i put my headphone very low in volume just because i dont like to listen to the songs too loudly
10:49 Another Lie: me too, but i consider the volume while modding
10:49 Amethyst507: something optional : 01:24:299 (84299|2) - remove
10:49 Another Lie: ok
10:49 Amethyst507: i heard the noise gets louder, but i don't think anybody would care about it
10:50 Amethyst507: getting louder*
10:50 Another Lie: i think that unneccesary note haha, so i applied
10:50 Another Lie: please continue
10:50 Amethyst507: they might only focus on the dadadada not the volume
10:50 *Another Lie think so too
10:51 *Another Lie deleted this too 01:58:966 (118966|1,119299|2) -
10:51 Amethyst507: 01:46:633 (106633|0,107133|3) - ctrl_h
10:51 Amethyst507: ctrl+h
10:52 Another Lie: no, mini jack
10:52 Amethyst507: dammit i put my kb in the wrong order when i clean up last time
10:52 Amethyst507: no mini jack
10:52 Another Lie: 01:47:133 (107133|3,107299|0) - if the normal note goes to ctrl+h, there is mini jack
10:52 Another Lie: wait ss
10:52 Amethyst507: there is one more
10:52 Another Lie: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6857511
10:52 Amethyst507: at the same time 01:47:299 (107299|0) - move to 4
10:55 Amethyst507: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6857522 then it becomes this
10:55 Another Lie: but i consider this 01:47:966 (107966|2,108216|1,108466|2,108633|1) -
10:55 Another Lie: louder, lower, louder, lower
10:56 Amethyst507: did you mean 01:46:633 (106633|0,106799|1,106966|2,107133|3) - , yes
10:57 Amethyst507: imo, the sound 01:47:299 - goes high, so it should go to 4
10:57 Another Lie: yes01:46:633 (106633|0,106799|1,106966|2,107133|3) - actually, they are same pitch. But this is novice, i won't allow jack
10:57 Amethyst507: there are no jacks lol
10:58 Another Lie: did you really read the chat?
10:58 Another Lie: "yes 01:46:633 (106633|0,106799|1,106966|2,107133|3) - actually, they are same pitch. But this is novice, i won't allow jack"
10:58 Another Lie: well, not really jacks. But same column 1 spaced line is counted as jack (or mini jacks)
10:59 Amethyst507: alright um.. the ln at 01:47:299 - was 1 too right
10:59 Another Lie: please continue
10:59 Amethyst507: and this is considered a "jack" isnt it
11:00 Another Lie: i combined this 01:47:299 (107299|2) - with this 01:47:966 (107966|2) - if at screenshot will be like this. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6857553
11:02 Amethyst507: hm alright
11:03 Another Lie: please continue if there still a mod
11:04 Amethyst507: same goes here, 01:53:633 - remove a ln?
11:04 Another Lie: i already did
11:05 Another Lie: 01:56:299 - too
11:05 Amethyst507: when :o
11:05 Another Lie: 01:58:966 - same 01:59:299 - same
11:05 Amethyst507: latest wasnt like this
11:05 Another Lie: while you are thinking :D
11:05 Another Lie: i did remove it while you are still long to think to mod :D
11:05 Amethyst507: o..k...
11:06 Amethyst507: is it because i mentioned abt the ln thing earlier that made you want to check the points above right
11:07 Another Lie: no :)
11:07 Amethyst507: alright
11:07 Another Lie: well it is from "nobody doesn't care about it"
11:07 Another Lie: so, i thought to remove it instead
11:08 Amethyst507: summarize the good points of the mod, if there is none, i can choose not to save the log and post to forums
11:08 Another Lie: some of yours are applied & worth of kudosu
11:08 Another Lie: and also if you can mod the BASIC :D
11:09 Amethyst507: i will do it another time
11:09 Amethyst507: no kuds for basic
11:09 Another Lie: k, you can post it for kds
11:10 *Amethyst507 is done
lazy pack*
-10:49 Amethyst507: something optional : 01:24:299 (84299|2) - remove
10:49 Another Lie: ok
10:49 Amethyst507: i heard the noise gets louder, but i don't think anybody would care about it
10:50 Amethyst507: getting louder*
10:50 Another Lie: i think that unneccesary note haha, so i applied

-11:04 Amethyst507: same goes here, 01:53:633 - remove a ln?
11:04 Another Lie: i already did
11:05 Another Lie: 01:56:299 - too
11:05 Amethyst507: when :o
11:05 Another Lie: 01:58:966 - same 01:59:299 - same
11:05 Amethyst507: latest wasnt like this
11:05 Another Lie: while you are thinking :D
11:05 Another Lie: i did remove it while you are still long to think to mod :D
11:05 Amethyst507: o..k...
11:06 Amethyst507: is it because i mentioned abt the ln thing earlier that made you want to check the points above right
11:07 Another Lie: no :)
11:07 Amethyst507: alright

That's all at the moment, I will note if there is something else in mind. no kuds next time i suppose unless it's something big.
Draftnell
oke m4m with another lie

so my turn for mod this,
oke here w go

[Lie's Novice]
00:15:966 - 00:16:299 - 00:16:633 - 00:19:966 - gak di add ? disini like cymbal + suara clan gitu jadi klo di add gpp ko

[ADVANCED]
00:17:299 (17299|1) - move to 3 ? for variation
01:24:411 (84411|2,84522|1) - ctrl + H ?
01:33:466 (93466|2,93466|0,93549|1,93549|3) - uwahh not to hard like this ? my suggest just one note is enough btw because to many for instrument you did one note, and drum = double note....so keep one note on this instrument
01:33:716 (93716|2,93716|0,93799|1,93799|3) - ^
01:34:133 (94133|2,94133|3,94216|0,94216|1) - ^
01:34:383 (94383|2,94383|3,94466|1,94466|0) - ^

[EXHAUST]
00:50:299 - https://puu.sh/sYLLc/95b08c03f7.png
01:56:799 (116799|3) - move to col 2 ?


oke m4m with another lie was done....
GL for rank ~
Topic Starter
Loebad434

Draftnell wrote:

oke m4m with another lie

so my turn for mod this,
oke here w go

[ADVANCED]
00:17:299 (17299|1) - move to 3 ? for variation
01:24:411 (84411|2,84522|1) - ctrl + H ?
01:33:466 (93466|2,93466|0,93549|1,93549|3) - uwahh not to hard like this ? my suggest just one note is enough btw because to many for instrument you did one note, and drum = double note....so keep one note on this instrument
01:33:716 (93716|2,93716|0,93799|1,93799|3) - ^
01:34:133 (94133|2,94133|3,94216|0,94216|1) - ^
01:34:383 (94383|2,94383|3,94466|1,94466|0) - ^

[EXHAUST]
00:50:299 - https://puu.sh/sYLLc/95b08c03f7.png
01:56:799 (116799|3) - move to col 2 ?


oke m4m with another lie was done....
GL for rank ~
just accepted... thanks for mod
Protastic101
"will mod saturday" - come along tuesday Friday and Im still procrastinating :^)

haven't heard a whoosh whoosh bang bang song in a while
[General]
  1. Might wanna increase OD and HP of INFINITE to 8.5/8.5 since it's pretty mashable rn.
[Lie's Basic]00:01:799 - 00:03:133 - 00:04:883 - Honestly pretty weird to only map part of the whooshes and not the other part. The player can easily hear them, so they'd expect there to be a note, so add?
00:06:299 - Would also consider adding another note here since this is like a transition leading into the next section.
00:08:799 (8799|2) - I think it'd be better to remove this note and instead make 00:08:633 (8633|3) - a long note that ends at 00:08:966 - cause of the synth.
00:14:133 (14133|1,14466|1) - Imo, would be better to move these down to 00:13:966 - to make jumps at 00:13:966 - and 00:14:299 - since they're heavily accented.
00:29:299 - Consider adding another note here for the bang or whatever
00:35:966 (35966|1,36216|0,36466|1) - Might be easier to read if it's put on both hands rather than just one, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6881016
00:37:299 (37299|1,37549|0,37799|1) - Similar to the above, but reversed, so that it goes 3-2-1
00:38:633 (38633|0) - I think it'd just be better to remove the LN and add 1/1 notes instead to represent the build up.
00:47:633 (47633|3,47799|2) - Might be cool to stack these in the same column since they're both the same sound.
00:47:966 (47966|1) - Think it'd better represent the music if you ended the LN at 00:48:633 - and added another 1/1 LN at 00:48:966 - to show the stutters
00:58:299 (58299|2,58633|3) - For symmetry, might be cool to swap the columns here so the LN is in 4 and the short note in 3.
01:02:633 (62633|2,62883|2,63133|2) - I honestly would not recommend using a stacked 3/4 pattern like this in the BASIC diff because the player will most likely read this as being a simple 1/1 spacing apart as opposed to 3/4. Maybe move the notes to 3-2-1 respectively.
01:07:966 (67966|0,68299|1) - I'd suggest turning these back into short notes cause there's no real reason for them to be LNs, and it serves to accent 01:08:633 (68633|2,68966|3) - since it'll stand out more from the chart if there aren't already LNs surrounding it (making them more uncommon I guess)
01:09:299 - Add a double for a crash?
01:08:966 - to 01:13:966 - column 4 is not used for 5 entire seconds. Please rearrange some of the short notes in this part to balance it out, as this is currently leaning very heavily on the left hand.
01:21:466 (81466|0,81799|2) - I think it'd be better to just emphasize the bangs here's since the structure of this beatmap hasn't really hinted at following 1/2 unless the sound is a really noticeable whoosh or whatever. So basically, remove these to emphasize the 1/1 sounds.
01:24:799 (84799|2) - ^
01:26:799 (86799|0,87133|2) - ^ Honestly, the sound blends in with the background too much, so the player will be really surprised to see you suddenly mapping something that isn't as noticeable to hear.
01:31:966 (91966|0,92216|0,92466|0) - You're gonna have to give me some good justification for why this is here. It's better to just remove it completely since the sound is more just groups of 2 1/4 notes together. The player's not going to be expecting you to map something so quiet when you've mapped pretty much only the prominent sounds so far.
01:35:799 (95799|2) - Think it'd be better to move this to 1 instead since it acts like a jump between two hands and makes a more wild movement imo. Also, the sounds aren't really the same pitch from what I can hear, so there's no real reason to stack it then.
01:50:633 (110633|2) - Better to move this to 1 to give the player a moment to recover from the ministack at 01:50:299 (110299|3,110466|3) - on the right hand.
01:52:966 (112966|2,113133|2) - Similar to the same reason abnove, it's better to go from one hand to another in this case to avoid straining one hand more than necessary.

[Lie's Novice]00:02:049 (2049|1,3383|1) - Might consider removing these cause the player probably thinks you're only following the bangs or whatever, and it emphasizes it that way since it's the only thing you'd be following in that case.
00:05:716 (5716|1,5799|3) - Would consider making this 3-2 for symmetry with 00:05:466 (5466|3,5549|0) - like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6881115
00:06:799 (6799|1,7133|1,7466|3,7799|3) - Seriously, for notes like this, the sound is so close to inaudible that it's not even worth mapping it, especially in a Novice diff when you have to consider the fact that your target audience is a group of people who are probably only used to following 1 and maybe 2 parts during kiais or something at the same time
00:24:633 (24633|3,24799|1) - Imo, might be easier to play if the columns were flipped and the LN was in 4 and the short note in 2 so you can avoid the shield with 00:24:133 (24133|3,24633|3) -
01:07:966 (67966|1,68216|1,68466|1) - tbh, I'd leave stacks only for the large whoosh whoosh bang bang sounds as opposed to something barely noticeable in the music since the player can't really get an understanding of what parts you're trying to follow. So maybe arrange the notes like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6881140
Another Lie

Protastic101 wrote:

"will mod saturday" - come along tuesday Friday and Im still procrastinating :^)

haven't heard a whoosh whoosh bang bang song in a while
[General]
  1. Might wanna increase OD and HP of INFINITE to 8.5/8.5 since it's pretty mashable rn.
[Lie's Basic]00:35:966 (35966|1,36216|0,36466|1) - Might be easier to read if it's put on both hands rather than just one, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6881016 added
00:37:299 (37299|1,37549|0,37799|1) - Similar to the above, but reversed, so that it goes 3-2-1 re-arranged
00:38:633 (38633|0) - I think it'd just be better to remove the LN and add 1/1 notes instead to represent the build up. ok
00:47:633 (47633|3,47799|2) - Might be cool to stack these in the same column since they're both the same sound. ok
00:47:966 (47966|1) - Think it'd better represent the music if you ended the LN at 00:48:633 - and added another 1/1 LN at 00:48:966 - to show the stutters ok
00:58:299 (58299|2,58633|3) - For symmetry, might be cool to swap the columns here so the LN is in 4 and the short note in 3. I consider the notes above
01:02:633 (62633|2,62883|2,63133|2) - I honestly would not recommend using a stacked 3/4 pattern like this in the BASIC diff because the player will most likely read this as being a simple 1/1 spacing apart as opposed to 3/4. Maybe move the notes to 3-2-1 respectively. Re-arranged in some way
01:07:966 (67966|0,68299|1) - I'd suggest turning these back into short notes cause there's no real reason for them to be LNs, and it serves to accent 01:08:633 (68633|2,68966|3) - since it'll stand out more from the chart if there aren't already LNs surrounding it (making them more uncommon I guess) idk about the uncommon but I re-arranged some way
01:09:299 - Add a double for a crash? ok
01:08:966 - to 01:13:966 - column 4 is not used for 5 entire seconds. Please rearrange some of the short notes in this part to balance it out, as this is currently leaning very heavily on the left hand. Re-arranged
01:21:466 (81466|0,81799|2) - I think it'd be better to just emphasize the bangs here's since the structure of this beatmap hasn't really hinted at following 1/2 unless the sound is a really noticeable whoosh or whatever. So basically, remove these to emphasize the 1/1 sounds. ok
01:24:799 (84799|2) - ^ ok
01:26:799 (86799|0,87133|2) - ^ Honestly, the sound blends in with the background too much, so the player will be really surprised to see you suddenly mapping something that isn't as noticeable to hear. ikr, but if you hear properly :D
01:31:966 (91966|0,92216|0,92466|0) - You're gonna have to give me some good justification for why this is here. It's better to just remove it completely since the sound is more just groups of 2 1/4 notes together. The player's not going to be expecting you to map something so quiet when you've mapped pretty much only the prominent sounds so far. well, your reason is same like Jinjin's GD at this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/308529 to be precisely 00:44:618 (44618|4,45794|0) -
01:35:799 (95799|2) - Think it'd be better to move this to 1 instead since it acts like a jump between two hands and makes a more wild movement imo. Also, the sounds aren't really the same pitch from what I can hear, so there's no real reason to stack it then. ok
01:50:633 (110633|2) - Better to move this to 1 to give the player a moment to recover from the ministack at 01:50:299 (110299|3,110466|3) - on the right hand. ok
01:52:966 (112966|2,113133|2) - Similar to the same reason abnove, it's better to go from one hand to another in this case to avoid straining one hand more than necessary. ok

[Lie's Novice]00:02:049 (2049|1,3383|1) - Might consider removing these cause the player probably thinks you're only following the bangs or whatever, and it emphasizes it that way since it's the only thing you'd be following in that case. keep, it is noticable to hear
00:05:716 (5716|1,5799|3) - Would consider making this 3-2 for symmetry with 00:05:466 (5466|3,5549|0) - like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6881115 i re arrange some way
00:06:799 (6799|1,7133|1,7466|3,7799|3) - Seriously, for notes like this, the sound is so close to inaudible that it's not even worth mapping it, especially in a Novice diff when you have to consider the fact that your target audience is a group of people who are probably only used to following 1 and maybe 2 parts during kiais or something at the same time I re arrange it by pitch relevancy
00:24:633 (24633|3,24799|1) - Imo, might be easier to play if the columns were flipped and the LN was in 4 and the short note in 2 so you can avoid the shield with 00:24:133 (24133|3,24633|3) - Moved some way
01:07:966 (67966|1,68216|1,68466|1) - tbh, I'd leave stacks only for the large whoosh whoosh bang bang sounds as opposed to something barely noticeable in the music since the player can't really get an understanding of what parts you're trying to follow. So maybe arrange the notes like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6881140 ok
Update all diff http://puu.sh/sZc7R.rar
deadbill
hi o/
wadu ada hitsoundnya
ntar reply aja ye, ane banyak nanya soalnya huehue

INFINITE


*kasus 1
euh.. ane penasaran doang nih..
00:03:966 (3966|3,3966|1,3966|0,4216|2,4216|1,4216|3,4466|2,4466|0,4466|3,4633|2,4633|3,4633|0,4883|1,4883|0,4883|2,5133|1,5133|0,5133|3,5299|1,5299|3,5299|0) -
dst pakai hitson whistle (W) + clap (C), pasang tiga notes
00:05:466 (5466|0,5466|3,5549|2,5549|1,5716|1,5716|0,5799|2,5799|3) -
kenapa disini cuma pasang 2?

00:05:799 (5799|2,5799|3) - ga konsisten hitson nye. 00:05:799 (5799|3) - jangan W dan C.. pisahin aja mendingan masing2 note, soft-normalhit nya masih bisa kedengeran soalnya

*kasus 2
00:05:883 - bole tau alesannya kenapa cuma pake satu note?

00:08:633 (8633|2,8633|1,8633|0,8799|3,8799|1,8799|2,8966|1,8966|0,8966|3) - lihat kasus 1

00:11:466 - lihat kasus 2

ini udah enak, tangan kanan kiri gantian 00:13:299 (13299|1,13411|2,13411|1,13522|2,13633|1,13744|2,13744|1,13855|2) -
tapi masalahnya disini jadi numpuk tangan kanan mini jacknya 00:13:744 (13744|2,13855|3,13855|2,13966|3) -
mungkin bisa pake [13] [24] [13] [24] solusinya

00:13:966 (13966|1,13966|3,13966|0,14133|2,14133|0,14133|1,14299|1,14299|3,14299|2) - mirip kasus 1.. 00:14:133 (14133|2,14133|1,14133|0) - W doang tapi tiga notes

coba bandingin..
00:16:633 (16633|0,16633|3,16716|1,16799|3,16799|2) - 2-1-2 notesnya
00:17:133 (17133|2,17133|3,17133|0,17216|1,17299|2,17299|3,17299|0) - 3-1-3 notesnya
kenapa beda? hitsonnya sama

00:34:966 (34966|2,35049|2) - pindah ke 2
00:35:466 (35466|2) - pindah ke 1
00:35:466 (35466|0,35549|0) - pindah ke 2
00:35:633 (35633|1,35716|1) - pindah ke 4
00:35:799 (35799|3) - pindah ke 2

biar enak tangan kanan sama kiri .-.

00:35:966 (35966|3,35966|1,35966|2,36216|2,36216|0,36216|1) - ctrl+H aje
00:39:633 (39633|0,39799|0,39966|0) - pasang W

00:40:966 (40966|0) - ini cuma satu note tapi disini 2 note 00:41:299 (41299|1,41299|0) - kenapa?

00:42:299 (42299|0,42299|2,42299|1,42299|3,42466|2,42466|1,42466|0,42466|3) - kenapa tiba2 pasang 4 notes? sebelum2nya suara yang sama cuma pakai 3 notes
00:44:966 (44966|3,44966|2,44966|1,44966|0,45133|1,45133|2,45133|3,45133|0) - ^
00:47:633 (47633|2,47633|1,47633|0,47633|3,47799|1,47799|0,47799|3,47799|2) - ^

01:09:299 (69299|1,69383|0,69466|1,69549|0,69633|1,69716|0,69799|1) - kebanyakan thrillnya di tangan kiri

01:24:633 (84633|2) - geser ke 4 terus sesuaikan aje ntar yg bagian sini 01:24:799 (84799|3,84799|1,84799|0,84966|1,84966|2,84966|3) -
01:26:299 (86299|3,86466|3,86633|3,86799|3,86966|3) - anchoring .-.

01:29:966 (89966|1,90049|0,90133|1,90216|0,90299|1,90383|0,90466|1,90549|0,90633|1) - thrillnya menyiksa tangan kiri :C

01:33:966 - kenapa cuma dua notes? 01:33:299 - disini tiga
01:34:966 - ini juga kenapa cuma dua notes? 01:35:299 - disini tiga
ato bisa juga dibalik pertanyaannya.. kenapa tiga, di bagian yang lain dua .-.

01:38:133 (98133|3,98216|0,98299|0) - pasang W
1:39:966 - pasang C
01:41:299 - ^
01:42:633 - ^
01:43:966 - ^ usahakan jadi 3 notes
01:45:299 - ^
01:45:966 - ^

pasang C
01:47:966 (107966|1) -
01:49:133 -
01:49:299 -
01:50:633 -

pasang W
01:51:966 -
01:52:216 -
01:52:466 -
01:52:716 -
01:52:966 -
01:53:133 -
01:54:633 -
01:54:883 -
01:55:133 -
01:55:383 -
01:55:633 -
01:55:799 -
01:57:299 -
01:57:549 -
01:57:799 -
01:58:049 -

01:59:633 (119633|1,119633|2) - cukup satu aja C nya... ini ga usah dibikin F + C

patternnya dlu mungkin ya sebelum masuk ke SV :C

ntar panggil ane lagi aja, culik via pm ye huehue
Topic Starter
Loebad434

deadbill wrote:

hi o/
wadu ada hitsoundnya
ntar reply aja ye, ane banyak nanya soalnya huehue

INFINITE


*kasus 1
euh.. ane penasaran doang nih..
00:03:966 (3966|3,3966|1,3966|0,4216|2,4216|1,4216|3,4466|2,4466|0,4466|3,4633|2,4633|3,4633|0,4883|1,4883|0,4883|2,5133|1,5133|0,5133|3,5299|1,5299|3,5299|0) -
dst pakai hitson whistle (W) + clap (C), pasang tiga notes
00:05:466 (5466|0,5466|3,5549|2,5549|1,5716|1,5716|0,5799|2,5799|3) -
kenapa disini cuma pasang 2? applied

00:05:799 (5799|2,5799|3) - ga konsisten hitson nye. 00:05:799 (5799|3) - jangan W dan C.. pisahin aja mendingan masing2 note, soft-normalhit nya masih bisa kedengeran soalnya applied

*kasus 2
00:05:883 - bole tau alesannya kenapa cuma pake satu note? hat sound

00:08:633 (8633|2,8633|1,8633|0,8799|3,8799|1,8799|2,8966|1,8966|0,8966|3) - lihat kasus 1 applied

00:11:466 - lihat kasus 2 applied

ini udah enak, tangan kanan kiri gantian 00:13:299 (13299|1,13411|2,13411|1,13522|2,13633|1,13744|2,13744|1,13855|2) -
tapi masalahnya disini jadi numpuk tangan kanan mini jacknya 00:13:744 (13744|2,13855|3,13855|2,13966|3) -
mungkin bisa pake [13] [24] [13] [24] solusinya updated, klo gini gimana?

00:13:966 (13966|1,13966|3,13966|0,14133|2,14133|0,14133|1,14299|1,14299|3,14299|2) - mirip kasus 1.. 00:14:133 (14133|2,14133|1,14133|0) - W doang tapi tiga notes applied

coba bandingin..
00:16:633 (16633|0,16633|3,16716|1,16799|3,16799|2) - 2-1-2 notesnya
00:17:133 (17133|2,17133|3,17133|0,17216|1,17299|2,17299|3,17299|0) - 3-1-3 notesnya
kenapa beda? hitsonnya sama consider 00:16:549 (16549|2) - jadi jack soalnya

00:34:966 (34966|2,35049|2) - pindah ke 2
00:35:466 (35466|2) - pindah ke 1
00:35:466 (35466|0,35549|0) - pindah ke 2
00:35:633 (35633|1,35716|1) - pindah ke 4
00:35:799 (35799|3) - pindah ke 2

biar enak tangan kanan sama kiri .-. applied

00:35:966 (35966|3,35966|1,35966|2,36216|2,36216|0,36216|1) - ctrl+H aje
00:39:633 (39633|0,39799|0,39966|0) - pasang W applied

00:40:966 (40966|0) - ini cuma satu note tapi disini 2 note 00:41:299 (41299|1,41299|0) - kenapa? updated, consider SR

00:42:299 (42299|0,42299|2,42299|1,42299|3,42466|2,42466|1,42466|0,42466|3) - kenapa tiba2 pasang 4 notes? sebelum2nya suara yang sama cuma pakai 3 notes
00:44:966 (44966|3,44966|2,44966|1,44966|0,45133|1,45133|2,45133|3,45133|0) - ^
00:47:633 (47633|2,47633|1,47633|0,47633|3,47799|1,47799|0,47799|3,47799|2) - ^ done

01:09:299 (69299|1,69383|0,69466|1,69549|0,69633|1,69716|0,69799|1) - kebanyakan thrillnya di tangan kiri dah

01:24:633 (84633|2) - geser ke 4 terus sesuaikan aje ntar yg bagian sini 01:24:799 (84799|3,84799|1,84799|0,84966|1,84966|2,84966|3) -
01:26:299 (86299|3,86466|3,86633|3,86799|3,86966|3) - anchoring .-. gimana?

01:29:966 (89966|1,90049|0,90133|1,90216|0,90299|1,90383|0,90466|1,90549|0,90633|1) - thrillnya menyiksa tangan kiri :C consider updatenya gimana

01:33:966 - kenapa cuma dua notes? 01:33:299 - disini tiga beda sound, 50%
01:34:966 - ini juga kenapa cuma dua notes? 01:35:299 - disini tiga beda sound, 50%
ato bisa juga dibalik pertanyaannya.. kenapa tiga, di bagian yang lain dua .-.

01:38:133 (98133|3,98216|0,98299|0) - pasang W
1:39:966 - pasang C
01:41:299 - ^
01:42:633 - ^
01:43:966 - ^ usahakan jadi 3 notes
01:45:299 - ^
01:45:966 - ^

pasang C
01:47:966 (107966|1) -
01:49:133 -
01:49:299 -
01:50:633 -

pasang W
01:51:966 -
01:52:216 -
01:52:466 -
01:52:716 -
01:52:966 -
01:53:133 -
01:54:633 -
01:54:883 -
01:55:133 -
01:55:383 -
01:55:633 -
01:55:799 -
01:57:299 -
01:57:549 -
01:57:799 -
01:58:049 -

01:59:633 (119633|1,119633|2) - cukup satu aja C nya... ini ga usah dibikin F + C

patternnya dlu mungkin ya sebelum masuk ke SV :C applied

ntar panggil ane lagi aja, culik via pm ye huehue
deadbill

Loebad434 wrote:

deadbill wrote:

hi o/
wadu ada hitsoundnya
ntar reply aja ye, ane banyak nanya soalnya huehue

INFINITE


*kasus 1
euh.. ane penasaran doang nih..
00:03:966 (3966|3,3966|1,3966|0,4216|2,4216|1,4216|3,4466|2,4466|0,4466|3,4633|2,4633|3,4633|0,4883|1,4883|0,4883|2,5133|1,5133|0,5133|3,5299|1,5299|3,5299|0) -
dst pakai hitson whistle (W) + clap (C), pasang tiga notes
00:05:466 (5466|0,5466|3,5549|2,5549|1,5716|1,5716|0,5799|2,5799|3) -
kenapa disini cuma pasang 2? applied

00:05:799 (5799|2,5799|3) - ga konsisten hitson nye. 00:05:799 (5799|3) - jangan W dan C.. pisahin aja mendingan masing2 note, soft-normalhit nya masih bisa kedengeran soalnya applied

*kasus 2
00:05:883 - bole tau alesannya kenapa cuma pake satu note? hat sound okie

00:08:633 (8633|2,8633|1,8633|0,8799|3,8799|1,8799|2,8966|1,8966|0,8966|3) - lihat kasus 1 applied

00:11:466 - lihat kasus 2 applied

ini udah enak, tangan kanan kiri gantian 00:13:299 (13299|1,13411|2,13411|1,13522|2,13633|1,13744|2,13744|1,13855|2) -
tapi masalahnya disini jadi numpuk tangan kanan mini jacknya 00:13:744 (13744|2,13855|3,13855|2,13966|3) -
mungkin bisa pake [13] [24] [13] [24] solusinya updated, klo gini gimana? bolee

00:13:966 (13966|1,13966|3,13966|0,14133|2,14133|0,14133|1,14299|1,14299|3,14299|2) - mirip kasus 1.. 00:14:133 (14133|2,14133|1,14133|0) - W doang tapi tiga notes applied

coba bandingin..
00:16:633 (16633|0,16633|3,16716|1,16799|3,16799|2) - 2-1-2 notesnya
00:17:133 (17133|2,17133|3,17133|0,17216|1,17299|2,17299|3,17299|0) - 3-1-3 notesnya
kenapa beda? hitsonnya sama consider 00:16:549 (16549|2) - jadi jack soalnya waduu iye ye


00:34:966 (34966|2,35049|2) - pindah ke 2
00:35:466 (35466|2) - pindah ke 1
00:35:466 (35466|0,35549|0) - pindah ke 2
00:35:633 (35633|1,35716|1) - pindah ke 4
00:35:799 (35799|3) - pindah ke 2

biar enak tangan kanan sama kiri .-. applied

00:35:966 (35966|3,35966|1,35966|2,36216|2,36216|0,36216|1) - ctrl+H aje
00:39:633 (39633|0,39799|0,39966|0) - pasang W applied

00:40:966 (40966|0) - ini cuma satu note tapi disini 2 note 00:41:299 (41299|1,41299|0) - kenapa? updated, consider SR

00:42:299 (42299|0,42299|2,42299|1,42299|3,42466|2,42466|1,42466|0,42466|3) - kenapa tiba2 pasang 4 notes? sebelum2nya suara yang sama cuma pakai 3 notes
00:44:966 (44966|3,44966|2,44966|1,44966|0,45133|1,45133|2,45133|3,45133|0) - ^
00:47:633 (47633|2,47633|1,47633|0,47633|3,47799|1,47799|0,47799|3,47799|2) - ^ done

01:09:299 (69299|1,69383|0,69466|1,69549|0,69633|1,69716|0,69799|1) - kebanyakan thrillnya di tangan kiri dah

01:24:633 (84633|2) - geser ke 4 terus sesuaikan aje ntar yg bagian sini 01:24:799 (84799|3,84799|1,84799|0,84966|1,84966|2,84966|3) -
01:26:299 (86299|3,86466|3,86633|3,86799|3,86966|3) - anchoring .-. gimana? lel kurang sreg aja ane liatnya


01:29:966 (89966|1,90049|0,90133|1,90216|0,90299|1,90383|0,90466|1,90549|0,90633|1) - thrillnya menyiksa tangan kiri :C consider updatenya gimana

01:33:966 - kenapa cuma dua notes? 01:33:299 - disini tiga beda sound, 50%
01:34:966 - ini juga kenapa cuma dua notes? 01:35:299 - disini tiga beda sound, 50% euhh okie
ato bisa juga dibalik pertanyaannya.. kenapa tiga, di bagian yang lain dua .-.

01:38:133 (98133|3,98216|0,98299|0) - pasang W
1:39:966 - pasang C
01:41:299 - ^
01:42:633 - ^
01:43:966 - ^ usahakan jadi 3 notes
01:45:299 - ^
01:45:966 - ^

pasang C
01:47:966 (107966|1) -
01:49:133 -
01:49:299 -
01:50:633 -

pasang W
01:51:966 -
01:52:216 -
01:52:466 -
01:52:716 -
01:52:966 -
01:53:133 -
01:54:633 -
01:54:883 -
01:55:133 -
01:55:383 -
01:55:633 -
01:55:799 -
01:57:299 -
01:57:549 -
01:57:799 -
01:58:049 -

01:59:633 (119633|1,119633|2) - cukup satu aja C nya... ini ga usah dibikin F + C

patternnya dlu mungkin ya sebelum masuk ke SV :C applied sepp

ntar panggil ane lagi aja, culik via pm ye huehue
SV mod incoming :D
deadbill
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00:01:341 - ngga taruh disini ? 00:01:300 - biar konsisten sama yg diatas ntar
mending taruh timing point disini deh 00:00:300 - biar bisa pasang inheriting 1.00 disini,
ntar buat diff lain juga ganti ye timing pointnya biar seragam

duh ane agak kurang yakin ini klo 00:02:299 (2299|0,2299|1,2466|3,2466|2,2633|3,2633|0,2633|2) -
dikasi SV yang sama dengan bagian sebelumnya, beatnya beda soalnya. bikin bingung klo begini...
saran ane kurangin svnya, biar lebih fokus ke synth.

00:05:966 - ini udah sangat rapat jadi mendingan ngga usah dibikin kejang2, lagian udah cukup terwakili sama single notes
okey? untuk selanjutnya beat 1/8 ga perlu dibikin kejang

saran ane bikin template dlu, ini ada beat apa aja
misal 1/4 pake template 0.1 ke 1.0
untuk 1/2 pake template 0.1 ke 2.0
untuk 3/4 pake template 0.5 ke 2.0
misal ini mah ye hehe

FAST FIX
kalo pengen cepet wkwk soalnya ini tabrak 0.10 dan 2.00 semua
nerf dikit paling 2.00 ke 1.00, dan 0.10 ke 0.50. karena ketemu 0.10 tiba2 ke 2.00 dalam 1/4 beat itu kurang nyaman >.>

ane jamin jadi mulus. mengapa demikian :D
lel karena bedanya ngga terlalu ekstrim

dan speed yang paling dominan dipake 1.00
kalo pake 0.10 dan 2.00, player disuguhin 3 bentukan speed => 0.10 2.00 dan 1.00
tapi klo pake 0.50 dan 1.00, player cuma disuguhin 2 bentuk => 0.50 dan 1.00
kombinasinya lebih gampang diterima

oiye kalau kgk mau pake 0.5 dan 1.0, pinginnya 0.1 dan 1.0 misalkan.. perhatikan beberapa bagian bakal jadi rapat, terutama yang beat 1/8 (lepas aja makanya yg sv 1/8)

ane tetep rekomendasi 0.5 dan 1.0 sih

cobain dlu ye fix nya, backup dlu biar aman :D
Topic Starter
Loebad434

deadbill wrote:

INFINITE

00:01:341 - ngga taruh disini ? 00:01:300 - biar konsisten sama yg diatas ntar
mending taruh timing point disini deh 00:00:300 - biar bisa pasang inheriting 1.00 disini,
ntar buat diff lain juga ganti ye timing pointnya biar seragam

duh ane agak kurang yakin ini klo 00:02:299 (2299|0,2299|1,2466|3,2466|2,2633|3,2633|0,2633|2) -
dikasi SV yang sama dengan bagian sebelumnya, beatnya beda soalnya. bikin bingung klo begini...
saran ane kurangin svnya, biar lebih fokus ke synth.

00:05:966 - ini udah sangat rapat jadi mendingan ngga usah dibikin kejang2, lagian udah cukup terwakili sama single notes
okey? untuk selanjutnya beat 1/8 ga perlu dibikin kejang

saran ane bikin template dlu, ini ada beat apa aja
misal 1/4 pake template 0.1 ke 1.0
untuk 1/2 pake template 0.1 ke 2.0
untuk 3/4 pake template 0.5 ke 2.0
misal ini mah ye hehe

FAST FIX
kalo pengen cepet wkwk soalnya ini tabrak 0.10 dan 2.00 semua
nerf dikit paling 2.00 ke 1.00, dan 0.10 ke 0.50. karena ketemu 0.10 tiba2 ke 2.00 dalam 1/4 beat itu kurang nyaman >.>

ane jamin jadi mulus. mengapa demikian :D
lel karena bedanya ngga terlalu ekstrim

dan speed yang paling dominan dipake 1.00
kalo pake 0.10 dan 2.00, player disuguhin 3 bentukan speed => 0.10 2.00 dan 1.00
tapi klo pake 0.50 dan 1.00, player cuma disuguhin 2 bentuk => 0.50 dan 1.00
kombinasinya lebih gampang diterima

oiye kalau kgk mau pake 0.5 dan 1.0, pinginnya 0.1 dan 1.0 misalkan.. perhatikan beberapa bagian bakal jadi rapat, terutama yang beat 1/8 (lepas aja makanya yg sv 1/8)

ane tetep rekomendasi 0.5 dan 1.0 sih

cobain dlu ye fix nya, backup dlu biar aman :D
dah... yg 0.1 tetep 0.1, yg 2x ganti 1,5 jadinya...
_Gaster
The SV needs a whoooole lotta work... The stops are bad, the drops aren't smooth and they're not even quasi-1x, it's like a bad attempt at murder.
Topic Starter
Loebad434

_Gaster wrote:

The SV needs a whoooole lotta work... The stops are bad, the drops aren't smooth and they're not even quasi-1x, it's like a bad attempt at murder.

might remove the SVs tho...
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