Porter Robinson - Divinity (ODESZA Remix) · forum

Begissor

Joined January 2014

Begissor 2016-05-12T14:17:31+00:00

Классный сб, классная релакс мапа, кайфовый трек! Вот ток один звук убил: 00:43:085 (2) - . Объясните мне нубу, зачем он там? Это такая фишка?)

Shmiklak

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Shmiklak 2016-05-12T15:30:54+00:00

салам

сториборд

Ты играла карту? Там половина твоего ника сожралась же D: Вообще если в идеале то все объекты должны быть в этой рамке http://puu.sh/oPfrV/c970dd9fa2.jpg http://puu.sh/oPfsG/05ac6465d5.jpg В игре этих полос не видно, а вот сб станет лучше. Просто уменьши все объекты до этой рамки (ну или хотя бы ники что бы выглядели норм)
Так же там еще потом где то после начала появляются черные полосы сверху и справа (хз может это все из за моих махинаций, но все же лучше проверь)

ЗлойШмиклакНамки

[Зло]

00:10:085 - анюсед поинт. Делит ит плс
04:26:918 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - это вообще законно? Игроки заебутся крутить же (оказалось что законно, но все же крутить чуть меньше минуты :/ Может лучше лонг слайдеры замапаешь?)
02:05:418 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - имо ерунда какая то. Играется да и выглядит в целом не очень.
01:03:418 (8) -
02:50:418 (8) - слайдер до 02:50:751 -

[~~Шмиклак~~Намки]

00:43:085 (2) - какого черта тут финиш? На следующий объект его

Дальше чистенько на мой взгляд. Удачи!

DeletedUser_6181859

DeletedUser_6181859 2016-05-15T14:16:58+00:00

Приветствую, пришёл из своей же мод-очереди, иии... сразу же небольшой мод. Мнение моддера есть мнение моддера.
Окажусь бесполезен - кудосу не даём. Ибо мне тут сложно найти какую-нибудь ошибку. Но я постараюсь.

Мод

00:36:085 (1) - убрать ньюкомбо?
00:41:585 (2,3) - тут стак ни к чему, ибо на протяжении всей карты до этого момента стаки были только на 1/2, а тут 1/4 стак
а вот с 00:56:585 (2,3) - такие стаки уже становятся обыденностью... не знаю я, что тут можно сделать, но выглядит немного странно
01:34:751 (10,1) - комбо как-то странно идёт, можно сделать как на 01:29:085 (8,1)
02:07:751 (5) - тут можно ньюкомбо
02:28:918 (7,8,9) - киаи ещё не началось, а тут уже такой неждан
02:50:418 (8,1) - можно убрать и вместо этого поставить спиннер
02:50:751 - можно сделать ещё тише звуки, н-ер на 20%
и с 02:56:085 сделать немного погромче, на 30% н-ер
02:58:751 - тут тоже самое, немного погромче
03:08:418 (6,8) - такой стак может сбить с толку
03:24:418 (5,7) - ^
03:32:918 (8,9,10) - как вариант - сделать другой паттерн, хотя там 10 и 1 неплохо бланкет составляют
03:39:418 (1) - закончить на 03:43:418 - ибо звук заканчивается именно там (послушайте с 25%)
03:48:751 (7) - сделать повеселее как на 02:12:751 (1)
03:59:085 (6,1) - как насчёт бланкета?
04:26:918 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - рука отвалится.

Pentori

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Joined November 2015

Pentori 2016-05-18T06:27:12+00:00

from nm queue

[General]
why dont you rename a few of your hitsounds so it works better with people that don't play with hitsounds

soft-hitclap to soft-hitwhistle
soft-hitfinish to soft-hitclap

kinda makes more sense cos the hitfinish is actually a clap and hitclap is a bass kick.

[ZLOYNamki]
00:10:418 (1) - starting a map on red tick is kinda eh. first time i played it i didn't know what it was following because its so quiet. i'd just remove this
00:10:085 - also u don't need this timing point
00:31:418 (4,2) - overlap this a little more so this 00:31:751 (5,3) - overlap can also look nicer
00:36:085 (1) - clap on sliderhead
00:43:085 (2) - remove finish on sliderend
00:58:751 (4,5,6) - this is kinda weird. the slider should have the downbeat on it like you've done for the rest of the map e.g 01:01:418 (1) - 01:12:085 (2) . use same rhythm as 01:01:085 (3,4,1) - or something
01:10:085 (4) - could be prettier if it was symmetric
01:28:085 (7,1) - swap nc
01:30:751 (3) - nc
01:33:418 (7) - nc
01:35:418 (1) - remove nc
03:01:418 (1) - just a personal opinion, but this section feels more dense and has the same DS as kiai time. compared to the start of the map it feels a lot harder because of patterns like 03:05:751 (5,6,7) - 03:11:585 (6,7,8) . maybe you should consider lowering density or DS to match the calmness of the song in comparison to the choruses
04:26:585 (9) - move to the downbeat 04:26:751
04:26:918 (1) - you'll probably have to make sure 1 minute of spinners is ok lol. ask a bn or something

gl with approval! hope this helped

Makeli

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Joined October 2013

Makeli 2016-05-19T15:32:56+00:00

hi!!!!!

zloynamki

Check "display epilepsy warning". Even though there really isn't anything flashing in the sb but better safe than sorry.
add some more tags like genre and the album name
00:20:085 (4) - mapping this just as a 1/4 slider is kinda odd since there is a snare at that blue tick. What I'm saying is that the snare should be clickable or something else since the music is not the same it was like 3 seconds ago. I just overexplained this like hell lol
00:43:085 (2) - there is no snare on that blue tick so you might want to remove that hitsound
00:56:585 (2,3) - stacking a snare and a kick is kinda random tbh
01:13:418 (6) - again there is no snare on this sliderend
01:53:251 (2) - doing this rythm again in a part where it really isn't that noticeable in the song is kinda off-putting
02:11:418 (3) - no snare on this sliderend either
02:17:085 (1) - no snare here either. Yea i'm gonna stop pointing these out now
02:42:418 (7,8,1) - after going down for 2 notes and then suddenly twisting to right a bit felt kinda awkward to play. Idk might be just me
02:56:085 (1) - tbh this 1/1 slider feels really out of place considering the song here
03:27:418 (7) - yea the stacking thing here

other than some rythm choices i disagree with this seems to be pretty much ready for rank tbh
Good luck!!!

ZLOdeuka-

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Topic Starter

ZLOdeuka- 2016-05-21T12:31:07+00:00

thanks guys. fixed and done!

MokouSmoke

495 posts

Joined May 2013

MokouSmoke 2016-05-25T05:18:15+00:00

hi hi~
[ZLOdeuka-]

00:17:418 (5) - maybe try something like this so it has similar back-and-forth flow like at 00:14:085 (2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/p4gg5/f1f33f422d.jpg
02:07:085 (3) - could maybe try a 1/8 slider instead
02:28:418 (6) - maybe break this up into 1/4 slider + note since I hear a sound at 02:28:585 - and 02:28:751 - feels like it should be clickable to be part of 02:28:918 (7,8,9) -
03:08:418 (6,7,8) - flow is weird since you don't use this elsewhere in this part. 03:24:418 (5,6,7) - is ok since it's the start of a new section
04:06:751 (5,6,7,8,9) - hitsounding kinda clashes with the song imo, probably better to just follow the drum sounds more closely

[Namki]

00:43:918 - wouldn't skip the drum sound here since it doesn't seem to be skipped elsewhere
01:56:085 - vocal + instrument sound here seems pretty strong to me
sliderhead of 02:54:085 (3) - 02:55:418 (7) - and slidertail of 02:56:085 (1) - should have finish since it's similar sound to 02:54:585 (4) - 02:58:085 (4) -
03:00:085 (2) - would break into two notes so snare drum sound at 03:00:251 - is clickable. beat also needs finish
03:15:918 - note should be here instead of 03:16:585 (2) - for drum sound?
03:34:085 (2) - maybe break this into two notes so it feels about as intense as 03:35:418 (1,2) -
04:01:585 (1,2) - ctrl+g rhythm so sound on red tick is clickable
04:02:751 (4,5,6,7) - maybe try a different pattern here? the flowbreak at 04:03:251 (6,7) - seems too much compared to 03:47:251 (2,3) - 03:49:751 (2,3) - 03:57:918 (2,3) -

[Both]

02:11:418 (3) - 02:22:085 (3) - 02:32:751 (3) - etc... try sampleset normal on slidertail instead of finish? current way sounds a little strange
02:12:751 (1) - 02:23:418 (6) - NC and hitsound inconsistency
I know it's a collab but ZLOdeuka-'s parts at 02:42:085 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - 02:47:418 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - seem more difficult than Namki's parts at 02:31:418 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - 02:36:751 (3,4,5,6,7) - maybe try changing 02:32:085 (5) - 02:38:085 (7) - into 1/4 sliders?

Nice relaxing song. Good luck~

riffy

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riffy 2016-05-29T17:48:57+00:00

Не прошло и пары лет, привет.

[General]

Насколько я помню, имена не должны быть в названиях сложностей. Точнее, там должно быть что-то еще, кроме имени. Допишите хотя бы слово Collab?
Вряд ли вам нужны леттербоксы, т.к. брейков в карте нет.
Поставьте тикрейт на двойку. Почти весь в ритм 1/2, это будет звучать лучше с песней.

ZLOdeuka-
1. 00:20:418 (5) - замени на два серкла? Бит на конце слайдера слишком сильный, нельзя оставить его без кликабельного объекта.
  Note: 00:33:751 (6) - аналогично. Можно почитать побольше об этом!
2. 00:36:418 (2,5) - двойка хзучит, а вот пятерка уже нет. Давай их тоже заменим на серклы, чтобы ритм был ровный. Если еще аналогичные будут попадаться - применяй к ним то же самое.
3. 02:21:085 (8) - а вот тут точно на серклы делить надо. Очень уж характерный звк на синем тике.
4. 03:10:418 (3,4) - а можно ли уменьшить спейсинг тут. Как-то необычно хашел джамп, показалось, что он слишком внезапный.
Namki
1. 00:52:085 (2,3) - после линейного и плавного флоу поворот на 90 градусов сыгрался очень резко. Давай попробуем угол чуть помягче сделать?
  Note: 01:09:085 (1,2,3) - после перехода с (1) на (2), переход к тройке выглядит несколько притянутым и угол не играется. Давай попробуем что-нибудь вроде этого
2. 01:53:418 - вот тут вокалы ломаются, а ты игнорируешь этот слом под слайдером. Нехорошо как-то. Давай попробуем заменить слайдер на серкл и слайдер? Далее аналогично.
3. 02:15:751 (4) - там короткий вокал, попробуй заменить слайдер на серкл.
4. 02:18:085 - мне не очень нравится, что сильные ударные остаются некликабельными на хвосте слайдера, но я понимаю почему. Попробуй заменить слайдер на два серкла и посмотри, какой вариант понравится тебе больше.
5. 03:39:418 (1) - а может разбить на два или закончить его раньше? Создается впечатление, что он немного не в тему с вокалами из-за длины.
Приятно, качественно, но есть пара мелочей.

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Best of luck!

ZLOdeuka-

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Topic Starter

ZLOdeuka- 2016-05-29T18:43:38+00:00

Bakari wrote:
Не прошло и пары лет, привет. привет!

[General]
Насколько я помню, имена не должны быть в названиях сложностей. Точнее, там должно быть что-то еще, кроме имени. Допишите хотя бы слово Collab? Сделано
Вряд ли вам нужны леттербоксы, т.к. брейков в карте нет. убрала
Поставьте тикрейт на двойку. Почти весь в ритм 1/2, это будет звучать лучше с песней. Сделано

ZLOdeuka-
00:20:418 (5) - замени на два серкла? Бит на конце слайдера слишком сильный, нельзя оставить его без кликабельного объекта. готово
Note: 00:33:751 (6) - аналогично. Можно почитать побольше об этом! ок!
00:36:418 (2,5) - двойка хзучит, а вот пятерка уже нет. Давай их тоже заменим на серклы, чтобы ритм был ровный. Если еще аналогичные будут попадаться - применяй к ним то же самое. сделано
02:21:085 (8) - а вот тут точно на серклы делить надо. Очень уж характерный звк на синем тике. готово
03:10:418 (3,4) - а можно ли уменьшить спейсинг тут. Как-то необычно хашел джамп, показалось, что он слишком внезапный.
уменьшила спейсинг

Приятно, качественно, но есть пара мелочей.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!

Thanks!

Namki

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Joined November 2014

Namki 2016-05-29T18:55:39+00:00

Спасибо, Бакари, принял всё.

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riffy

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riffy 2016-05-29T19:00:30+00:00

I'm being slow with rechecks, so you're free to get more BNs if you feel like doing so.

Otherwise I'll drop by later to recheck and bubble. Leaving a star for now.

riffy

osu! Alumni

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Joined December 2010

riffy 2016-05-31T17:07:57+00:00

Either prove the existing metadata to be correct or fix the metadata according to the source here.

Artist: Porter Robinson
Title: Divinity (ODESZA Remix)

You can add the female vocalist to the tags.

ZLO
01:00:418 (2) - я просил подобные послушать и позаменять на серклы. Ты или прослушала, или не хочешь. Какие-то комментарии дай, чтобы я знал.

Oh, and be sure to get rid of the old .osb that will appear after the metadata change!

Call me back!

ZLOdeuka-

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Topic Starter

ZLOdeuka- 2016-05-31T17:26:08+00:00

Bakari wrote:
Either prove the existing metadata to be correct or fix the metadata according to the source here.

Artist: Porter Robinson
Title: Divinity (ODESZA Remix) исправила

You can add the female vocalist to the tags.не стала добавлять

ZLO
01:00:418 (2) - я просил подобные послушать и позаменять на серклы. Ты или прослушала, или не хочешь. Какие-то комментарии дай, чтобы я знал.
прослушала. пропустила этот момент.пофиксила.
Oh, and be sure to get rid of the old .osb that will appear after the metadata change!

Call me back!

Спасибо!

riffy

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riffy 2016-05-31T18:26:49+00:00

For whatever reason the mapper did not want to add the name of the vocalist to the tags. The rest is cool.

Bubbled!

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2016-05-31T19:30:26+00:00

yay owo!!!

Namki

1,281 posts

Joined November 2014

Namki 2016-06-01T14:00:19+00:00

Ура!

Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

Sc4v4ng3r 2016-06-02T04:55:28+00:00

As requested.

[General]

Looks fine.

[Collab]
[ZLOdeuka's part]

02:47:418 (6) - I don't quite get the double finish usage here, as there are no snares on the tail of this slider. Consider removing it.
03:03:251 (7) - The note here makes the rhythm quite dense in such a calm part. Sure, the instruments are quite loud and all, but I believe since the vocal's and the instrument's intensity isn't too high, the rhythm should be kept less dense - so I would remove this note, as this is the least strong note out of all of them.
03:05:918 (6) - Here too, just like the reason I gave above, the note should be removed.
03:10:751 (4) - Then again, for consistency of rhythm(and also with the same reason I gave above), change this slider into a single circle.

[Namki's part]

02:12:751 (1) - This NC on this slider gets conflicted with all other similar vocals in later parts of the kiai, on your part and ZLO's part. Try to make the NCing on the similar sliders(which means this slider, 02:34:085 (1,2) - , 03:59:418 (1,2) - ) consistent at least for your part.
02:18:085 (4) - I'm pretty sure you are missing out on a finish here lol
03:33:251 (10,1) - If this is an intended blanket, make sure to perfect it out - right now the tail is slightly off.
03:55:751 (1) - NCing here makes the previous combo quite short - the HP drain wouldn't be too intuitive. Removing the NC here would make the combo count feel more natural.
04:20:751 (7,8,9) - Since the instrument is the strongest on these notes, small jumps could be made like ZLO did on 02:28:918 (7,8,9) - .

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Namki

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Joined November 2014

Namki 2016-06-02T13:28:26+00:00

Thanks, [Sc4v4ng3r], fixed all from my side.

DIFF

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ZLOdeuka-

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ZLOdeuka- 2016-06-03T14:35:12+00:00

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:
As requested.

[General]
Looks fine.
[Collab]
[ZLOdeuka's part]
02:47:418 (6) - I don't quite get the double finish usage here, as there are no snares on the tail of this slider. Consider removing it. fixed
03:03:251 (7) - The note here makes the rhythm quite dense in such a calm part. Sure, the instruments are quite loud and all, but I believe since the vocal's and the instrument's intensity isn't too high, the rhythm should be kept less dense - so I would remove this note, as this is the least strong note out of all of them. fixed
03:05:918 (6) - Here too, just like the reason I gave above, the note should be removed. fixed
03:10:751 (4) - Then again, for consistency of rhythm(and also with the same reason I gave above), change this slider into a single circle. fixed

Call me back.

thanks!

Sc4v4ng3r

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Sc4v4ng3r 2016-06-03T15:27:24+00:00

Alright recheck time. No kudos for this.

[ZLO's part]

01:40:085 - While the sound on this tick isn't too loud, there is still a sound present on this very tick, not like 01:37:418 - . Try to make 01:39:918 (3) - into a 1/4 slider to emphasize on that weak sound with the slider tail.
01:42:585 (3) - This note feels awkward as it skips over the loud note at 01:42:751 - . Try to make the rhythm like 01:41:085 (5,6,1) - .
01:45:251 (5) - Again, this slider feels awkward to me as it skips over the loud sound at 01:45:418 - . which you've been emphasizing. Maybe try to change up the rhythm like 01:41:085 (5,6,1) - , for consistency.
04:06:751 (5) - I don't hear anything special for a finish to be present - it would be nice if you were to remove the finish as there are no snares.

[Namki's part]

03:55:751 (4) - Similar like what I've pointed out on ZLO's part, the 'vocal''s sound on 03:55:918 - this tick is getting skipped over, when you've been emphasizing on it for the whole map/kiai. To keep consistency and avoid any confusion, I would change up the rhythm to be like this, to properly emphasize the vocals.

Once everything's applied, call me back.

ZLOdeuka-

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ZLOdeuka- 2016-06-03T16:43:09+00:00

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:
Alright recheck time. No kudos for this.

[ZLO's part]
01:40:085 - While the sound on this tick isn't too loud, there is still a sound present on this very tick, not like 01:37:418 - . Try to make 01:39:918 (3) - into a 1/4 slider to emphasize on that weak sound with the slider tail.
01:42:585 (3) - This note feels awkward as it skips over the loud note at 01:42:751 - . Try to make the rhythm like 01:41:085 (5,6,1) - .
01:45:251 (5) - Again, this slider feels awkward to me as it skips over the loud sound at 01:45:418 - . which you've been emphasizing. Maybe try to change up the rhythm like 01:41:085 (5,6,1) - , for consistency.
lol. in previous mod you wrote so I deleted the objects with such moments ( they are very similar and same are quiet ) and then here they need to put @_@ I don't understand. I did not fixed . I like it better ;_;
04:06:751 (5) - I don't hear anything special for a finish to be present - it would be nice if you were to remove the finish as there are no snares. fixed

Once everything's applied, call me back.

Sc4v4ng3r

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Sc4v4ng3r 2016-06-03T17:01:06+00:00

Alright everything looks cool to me, great mapset

2nd Bubble~

ZLOdeuka-

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ZLOdeuka- 2016-06-03T17:02:37+00:00

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:
Alright everything looks cool to me, great mapset

2nd Bubble~

yay thank you!

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DeletedUser_6181859 2016-06-03T18:37:59+00:00

we will wait for ~~this~~ approved...

ZLOdeuka-

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ZLOdeuka- 2016-06-03T18:45:19+00:00

100bit wrote:
we will wait for ~~this~~ approved...

Oh my God. so the text looks so mysterious...

Wafu

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Wafu 2016-07-10T12:37:28+00:00

[General]

The mp3 you're using is converted from something about 128kbps to 192kbps, that's not a reasonable quality, because you increase file size, but keep worse quality. If it's possible, we should use the best resources, so as it's still a pending map, why not replacing it with something more sensible and reasonable. I obviously got a better one without offset change. You might get it here. If you want a proof, check out ziin's guide and then compare.
320kbps
128kbps
Your mp3
192kbps (new)
It maybe makes sense, but not for me, so I'd welcome an explanation or a change. "ZLOYNam Collab" is obviously a mix of ZLOdeuka- and Namki, but the Y doesn't seem to make any logic here, please explain this or you should consider changing it.
You should disable the epilepsy warning as there are no elements that would cause PSE seizure. All movements in the storyboard are pretty smooth, even those flashes - which occur once per a very long time. Danger for people with PSE are flashes, changing colours or patterns in certain frequency (usually 15-25Hz, but some studies say the lower can be about 3Hz in extreme cases of PSE), but this storyboard is completely out of that range, so it's perfectly safe for people with PSE.

[Storyboard]

The storyboard is my biggest concern here. It is cool and simple, has only few visual issues, but there are some technical issues that could be fixed, because the current statement is illogical.
First visual issue is the incompatibility with other aspect ratios than 16:9. 16:10 is not that frequent, but fix would be easy, but 4:3 is still quite regular and if it's possible, storyboard should in my opinion work well on these. What I mean is that 4:3 users don't see names of mappers, just a little part of it, which is not very cool. You should probably reconsider placement of the name.
Second visual issue is the ZLOdeuka- text. I'd say inconsistent fonts between your and Namki's name doesn't work that well. Using Serif fonts is good for long texts, but stylistic things are usually better with Sans Serif fonts. Especially in this case, the shadow decreases the readability of the name quite a lot, while Namki's is completely fine. I'm not forcing this, but if I look at it from design side, I need to recommend using different font for your name or at least fixing the shadow to not look so messy.
There are many images that are changed so little so it isn't even needed and is only duplicating original files. Many things can be accomplished by storyboarding commands without editing the images in some external program. I'll explain:
1. sb/1.jpg is completely useless as it's only a duplicate of bg.jpg. Just delete it and replace sb\1.jpg with bg.jpg in osb file.
2. sb/boy.png and sb/boy2.png are the same images, the only difference is that one is a bit darker and colourless, so why not using boy.png in both cases and using grey colour on it?
3. The same applies to flowers.png, flowerskiai.png, flowers2.png, sky.png, skykiai.png and sky3.png. These all need only one picture + colour and you can achieve pretty much the same thing. The only thing to remember is that you'll always need the most bright image, because you can't brighten the image by using colour. Applying this and above suggestions will get a rid off about 2MB of useless files. Not a big deal, but it's always good to optimize things.

[ZLOYNam Collab]

00:10:085 (1) - You should remove this cirlce, because it is not on any sound, respectively, the sound that you hear there is reversed, that mean it's mostly noise. Mapping noise doesn't make much sense, especially when it's off-beat.
01:01:918 (2) - If you listen without the circle, you might notice there is no sound in the music. Things that are not present in the song shouldn't be clickable. Slider ending on them is usually fine, but a circle is quite an overmap.
01:03:918 (9) - Same as above.
01:05:918 (6) - Same as above. The same applies to 01:08:585 (3) - 01:12:585 (3) - and similar in this kind of pattern. For this reason, I recommend to remove it and keep it like it is or you could use what the music offers you and map it instead. For example 01:05:418 (5) - could be mapped like the screenshot below, that would not ignore sounds such as 01:05:585 - . This repeats quite often in this part. I'm not forcing you to use this option, but you shouldn't map what isn't in the song.
01:15:251 (2) - This one is also not mapped to a sound in the song, so it should be removed.
01:17:918 (2) - Same as above.
01:45:251 (5) - 01:42:585 (3) - It's just my opinion and a suggestion, but I think that mapping 01:42:751 - and 01:45:418 - is more important here. 01:37:251 (3) - was fine for me, because it is very quiet, but the others seem too loud to me to map something else.
03:39:418 (1) - This spinner should probably end on 03:41:418 - because it would fit to the synth in the song. Currently, it sounds quite off because it doesn't follow any sound.
There is quite a problem in new combos. ZLOdeuka- is using new combos to the music, but Namki is using new combos to the patterns. I think following the music is more sensible, but combining these two methods doesn't work really well. I'll just point out which places need a new combo (if there is new combo on the timestamp, it is probably not supposed to be there, if I send multiple objects, I recommend a swap). I think you should decide if you want to do something with it and what, so I'll just point out the places: 00:26:418 (1,2) - 00:28:751 (1,3) - 00:30:418 (1) - 00:50:085 (1,3) - 01:06:418 (1,2) - 01:07:751 (1) - 01:09:085 (1,2) - 01:11:751 (1,2) - 01:48:751 (1,4) - 01:50:418 (1) - 01:52:085 (6,1) - 01:54:751 (7,1) - 02:09:585 (1) - 02:10:751 (5,1) - 02:12:751 (1,2) - 02:14:918 (1) - 02:17:085 (1) - 02:30:918 (1) - 02:32:085 (5,1) - 02:34:085 (1,2) - 02:36:251 (1) - 02:37:418 (5,1) - 02:58:751 (5,1) - 03:14:085 (1,3) - 03:16:085 (1,4) - 03:18:585 (1) - 03:20:085 (5) - 03:21:085 (1) - 03:35:418 (1,4) - 03:36:751 (1) - 03:59:418 (1,2) - 04:01:585 (1) - 04:02:751 (4) - 04:03:918 (1) - 04:23:418 (1,3) -
There are some places during kiais that have a bit special sound, maybe adding a whistle on them might be cooler: 02:10:585 (4) - 02:21:251 (9) - 02:31:918 (4) - 02:42:585 (8) - 03:46:585 - 03:57:251 -
02:52:085 - 03:39:418 - This part could be a lot better when it comes to hitsounds. You skipped many sounds which could be hitsounded or used wrong hitsounds. If you want me to list them, PM me in-game, I'll be glad to help. But I guess you'll find them out easily.

If you didn't understand anything, feel free to PM me. I'll help you. You might call me back after responding to the mod.

ZLOdeuka-

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ZLOdeuka- 2016-07-11T14:46:44+00:00

Wafu wrote:
[General]
The mp3 you're using is converted from something about 128kbps to 192kbps, that's not a reasonable quality, because you increase file size, but keep worse quality. If it's possible, we should use the best resources, so as it's still a pending map, why not replacing it with something more sensible and reasonable. I obviously got a better one without offset change. You might get it here. If you want a proof, check out ziin's guide and then compare.
320kbps
128kbps
Your mp3
192kbps (new)
fixed ( check timing plz @_@)
It maybe makes sense, but not for me, so I'd welcome an explanation or a change. "ZLOYNam Collab" is obviously a mix of ZLOdeuka- and Namki, but the Y doesn't seem to make any logic here, please explain this or you should consider changing it. hmm ... maybe rename it? yes, I will do so
You should disable the epilepsy warning as there are no elements that would cause PSE seizure. All movements in the storyboard are pretty smooth, even those flashes - which occur once per a very long time. Danger for people with PSE are flashes, changing colours or patterns in certain frequency (usually 15-25Hz, but some studies say the lower can be about 3Hz in extreme cases of PSE), but this storyboard is completely out of that range, so it's perfectly safe for people with PSE.
fixed
[Storyboard]
The storyboard is my biggest concern here. It is cool and simple, has only few visual issues, but there are some technical issues that could be fixed, because the current statement is illogical.
First visual issue is the incompatibility with other aspect ratios than 16:9. 16:10 is not that frequent, but fix would be easy, but 4:3 is still quite regular and if it's possible, storyboard should in my opinion work well on these. What I mean is that 4:3 users don't see names of mappers, just a little part of it, which is not very cool. You should probably reconsider placement of the name.
Second visual issue is the ZLOdeuka- text. I'd say inconsistent fonts between your and Namki's name doesn't work that well. Using Serif fonts is good for long texts, but stylistic things are usually better with Sans Serif fonts. Especially in this case, the shadow decreases the readability of the name quite a lot, while Namki's is completely fine. I'm not forcing this, but if I look at it from design side, I need to recommend using different font for your name or at least fixing the shadow to not look so messy.
There are many images that are changed so little so it isn't even needed and is only duplicating original files. Many things can be accomplished by storyboarding commands without editing the images in some external program. I'll explain:
sb/1.jpg is completely useless as it's only a duplicate of bg.jpg. Just delete it and replace sb\1.jpg with bg.jpg in osb file.
sb/boy.png and sb/boy2.png are the same images, the only difference is that one is a bit darker and colourless, so why not using boy.png in both cases and using grey colour on it?
The same applies to flowers.png, flowerskiai.png, flowers2.png, sky.png, skykiai.png and sky3.png. These all need only one picture + colour and you can achieve pretty much the same thing. The only thing to remember is that you'll always need the most bright image, because you can't brighten the image by using colour. Applying this and above suggestions will get a rid off about 2MB of useless files. Not a big deal, but it's always good to optimize things.
I corrected the name. The rest is left unchanged because when I try to do it all my work is flying to the devil! I am satisfied with it
[ZLOYNam Collab]
00:10:085 (1) - You should remove this cirlce, because it is not on any sound, respectively, the sound that you hear there is reversed, that mean it's mostly noise. Mapping noise doesn't make much sense, especially when it's off-beat. No I can not. I think a good circle here ;_;
01:01:918 (2) - If you listen without the circle, you might notice there is no sound in the music. Things that are not present in the song shouldn't be clickable. Slider ending on them is usually fine, but a circle is quite an overmap. it sounds good here and vocal highlights. I do not want to correct :<
01:03:918 (9) - Same as above. ^
01:05:918 (6) - Same as above. The same applies to 01:08:585 (3) - 01:12:585 (3) - and similar in this kind of pattern. For this reason, I recommend to remove it and keep it like it is or you could use what the music offers you and map it instead. For example 01:05:418 (5) - could be mapped like the screenshot below, that would not ignore sounds such as 01:05:585 - . This repeats quite often in this part. I'm not forcing you to use this option, but you shouldn't map what isn't in the song. ^I like these moments and they are playable. so I will not remove them
01:15:251 (2) - This one is also not mapped to a sound in the song, so it should be removed. notfixed
01:17:918 (2) - Same as above.notfixed
01:45:251 (5) - 01:42:585 (3) - It's just my opinion and a suggestion, but I think that mapping 01:42:751 - and 01:45:418 - is more important here. 01:37:251 (3) - was fine for me, because it is very quiet, but the others seem too loud to me to map something else.notfixed. strange, but I have everything in order here.
03:39:418 (1) - This spinner should probably end on 03:41:418 - because it would fit to the synth in the song. Currently, it sounds quite off because it doesn't follow any sound.fixed.
There is quite a problem in new combos. ZLOdeuka- is using new combos to the music, but Namki is using new combos to the patterns. I think following the music is more sensible, but combining these two methods doesn't work really well. I'll just point out which places need a new combo (if there is new combo on the timestamp, it is probably not supposed to be there, if I send multiple objects, I recommend a swap). I think you should decide if you want to do something with it and what, so I'll just point out the places: 00:26:418 (1,2) - 00:28:751 (1,3) - 00:30:418 (1) - 00:50:085 (1,3) - 01:06:418 (1,2) - 01:07:751 (1) - 01:09:085 (1,2) - 01:11:751 (1,2) - 01:48:751 (1,4) - 01:50:418 (1) - 01:52:085 (6,1) - 01:54:751 (7,1) - 02:09:585 (1) - 02:10:751 (5,1) - 02:12:751 (1,2) - 02:14:918 (1) - 02:17:085 (1) - 02:30:918 (1) - 02:32:085 (5,1) - 02:34:085 (1,2) - 02:36:251 (1) - 02:37:418 (5,1) - 02:58:751 (5,1) - 03:14:085 (1,3) - 03:16:085 (1,4) - 03:18:585 (1) - 03:20:085 (5) - 03:21:085 (1) - 03:35:418 (1,4) - 03:36:751 (1) - 03:59:418 (1,2) - 04:01:585 (1) - 04:02:751 (4) - 04:03:918 (1) - 04:23:418 (1,3) - fixed!
There are some places during kiais that have a bit special sound, maybe adding a whistle on them might be cooler: 02:10:585 (4) - 02:21:251 (9) - 02:31:918 (4) - 02:42:585 (8) - 03:46:585 - 03:57:251 - fixed!
02:52:085 - 03:39:418 - This part could be a lot better when it comes to hitsounds. You skipped many sounds which could be hitsounded or used wrong hitsounds. If you want me to list them, PM me in-game, I'll be glad to help. But I guess you'll find them out easily.
I corrected what is considered necessary.
If you didn't understand anything, feel free to PM me. I'll help you. You might call me back after responding to the mod.

thank you, done

Wafu

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Wafu 2016-07-19T15:58:11+00:00

Rechecked the map, some things look better, but I'm still not satisfied with the beatmap and the response to not fixing many things was rather unreasonable. I get that you don't want to fix some of the storyboard things because that would look be hard to make it look like currently, but not removing image that is basically a duplicate doesn't make sense. Map still contains objects that aren't mapped to the music and I consider it as a lack of quality, for this reason, I cannot qualify the map or bubble it. Good luck in future.

ZLOdeuka-

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ZLOdeuka- 2016-08-02T12:39:20+00:00

Wafu wrote:
Rechecked the map, some things look better, but I'm still not satisfied with the beatmap and the response to not fixing many things was rather unreasonable. I get that you don't want to fix some of the storyboard things because that would look be hard to make it look like currently, but not removing image that is basically a duplicate doesn't make sense. Map still contains objects that aren't mapped to the music and I consider it as a lack of quality, for this reason, I cannot qualify the map or bubble it. Good luck in future.

OK. I have corrected everything that you have written. Just let me finish this card and get away from this hell game ;_;
except SB because I wrote the reason. It is permissible for the ranking criterias.

I noticed an important thing that I have corrected immediately! but now I have to fix it and the card looks much lushe. But here *02:52:085 - 03:39:418 - This part could be a lot better when it comes to hitsounds. You skipped many sounds which could be hitsounded or used wrong hitsounds. If you want me to list them, PM me in-game, I'll be glad to help. But I guess you'll find them out easily.* I did not understand, and I'd be happy if you show me where I missed notes

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