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ariffleng
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, 6 June 2016 at 1:16:30 AM

Artist: u's
Title: Sayounara e Sayonara!
Source: ラブライブ! School idol project
Tags: Anime Idol Feels Final Single Kousaka Honoka Sonoda Umi Minami Kotori Nishikino Maki Hoshizora Rin Koizumi Hanayo Ayase Eli Toujou Nozomi Yazawa Nico Nitta Emi Uchida Aya Mimori Suzuko Pile Iida Riho Kubo Yurika Nanjou Yoshino Kusuda Ainaa Tokui Sora
BPM: 130
Filesize: 7096kb
Play Time: 05:02
Difficulties Available:
  1. Farewell (3.52 stars, 835 notes)
Download: u's - Sayounara e Sayonara!
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Sayonara e Sayonara!, dubbed as the μ's ultimate farewell song next to Bokutachi wa hitotsu no Hikari. Hoping to tell the world how great μ's is by building this map, even as a first timer in mapping world.
And hopefully this marks the grand end to the μ's era and hence a welcome to the new Aquors era.

*WIP!
*Thanks BEM, Vanillas and Del05 for the sugoii mods!
PumpkinIcedTea
Hello from my queue :)

GENERAL STUFF
Combo Colors : You should pick appropriate combo colors to match the background of the song
Sider shapes : I noticed many of your sliders are badly shaped . 00:08:999 (1) - , 00:14:538 (1) - and 00:19:153 (8) - are examples of badly shaped sliders. Actually these can be made simple with just 3 of those , uhh dots thingy you click when you make a slider. An example of an OK design with 3 clicks would be http://puu.sh/oDjJ8/7d31baafb4.jpg.
You should change your difficulty settings to correspond with this page https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Hard

HARD
00:04:153 (1) - Cancel NC
00:05:191 (4) - I would suggest removing this
Generally, your combos are a little messed up. No worries though , all you have to do is to take note of a few points.
Currently , your combo looks like this http://puu.sh/oDjQ7/7e98a7a40e.jpg
Now taking note of these few points :
- A NC should be added every time the song passes the section marked with a long white tick extending outwards .
Taking that in mind, your new combos should look like this ( after applying the above 2 changes ) http://puu.sh/oDjYs/445dfbd0e0.jpg
Notice a NC at 00:01:615 (1) - , 00:03:461 (1) - and 00:05:307 (1) - ? Thats how it should be done

I think you generally tend to misuse streams. They should be used only when the music calls for it, and also sparingly on a HARD difficulty.
00:11:653 (3) - Add a note here to create a stream and see if it sounds good to you

00:25:615 (3) - You should generally not end sliders on a blue tick as it makes the gameplay seem weird . I understand what you are doing here thought, following the vocals, but if you REALLY want to keep this , I suggest adding an additional hitcircle here 00:26:076
00:26:538 (5,6,7) - This cluttering of notes looks bad . http://puu.sh/oDkcl/abcda5cf45.jpg Try this
00:54:230 This place is missing a beat
00:57:922 (6,8) - If you want to keep this overlap , ensure the end of the first slider completely overlaps the start of the 2nd slider
01:08:076 (5) - Delete this and replace it with a spinner
Ok I noticed you kiai sections have almost the same SV as the rest of the song. I highly , highly recommend you to increase the SV of your kiai sections. They emphasize the chorus of the song and gives the player a sort of adrenaline rush when the increase in SV contrasts with the song
I also noticed you have many breaks in the song , http://puu.sh/oDkDV/3da89fbf72.jpg , taking this section as an example. You see many breaks in your objects which disrupt flow movement . Try to put stuff in those areas

Ok I'll stop here . Overall , a really well done map considering its your first . Just some stuff here and there that needs fixing and you're good to go :) Feel free to contact me online or via forum pm if you are unclear about anything I said in my mods . Good luck :)
Topic Starter
ariffleng

Ars Novaa wrote:

Hello from my queue :)

GENERAL STUFF
Combo Colors : You should pick appropriate combo colors to match the background of the song
Sider shapes : I noticed many of your sliders are badly shaped . 00:08:999 (1) - , 00:14:538 (1) - and 00:19:153 (8) - are examples of badly shaped sliders. Actually these can be made simple with just 3 of those , uhh dots thingy you click when you make a slider. An example of an OK design with 3 clicks would be http://puu.sh/oDjJ8/7d31baafb4.jpg.
You should change your difficulty settings to correspond with this page https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Hard

HARD
00:04:153 (1) - Cancel NC
00:05:191 (4) - I would suggest removing this
Generally, your combos are a little messed up. No worries though , all you have to do is to take note of a few points.
Currently , your combo looks like this http://puu.sh/oDjQ7/7e98a7a40e.jpg
Now taking note of these few points :
- A NC should be added every time the song passes the section marked with a long white tick extending outwards .
Taking that in mind, your new combos should look like this ( after applying the above 2 changes ) http://puu.sh/oDjYs/445dfbd0e0.jpg
Notice a NC at 00:01:615 (1) - , 00:03:461 (1) - and 00:05:307 (1) - ? Thats how it should be done

I think you generally tend to misuse streams. They should be used only when the music calls for it, and also sparingly on a HARD difficulty.
00:11:653 (3) - Add a note here to create a stream and see if it sounds good to you

00:25:615 (3) - You should generally not end sliders on a blue tick as it makes the gameplay seem weird . I understand what you are doing here thought, following the vocals, but if you REALLY want to keep this , I suggest adding an additional hitcircle here 00:26:076
00:26:538 (5,6,7) - This cluttering of notes looks bad . http://puu.sh/oDkcl/abcda5cf45.jpg Try this
00:54:230 This place is missing a beat
00:57:922 (6,8) - If you want to keep this overlap , ensure the end of the first slider completely overlaps the start of the 2nd slider
01:08:076 (5) - Delete this and replace it with a spinner
Ok I noticed you kiai sections have almost the same SV as the rest of the song. I highly , highly recommend you to increase the SV of your kiai sections. They emphasize the chorus of the song and gives the player a sort of adrenaline rush when the increase in SV contrasts with the song
I also noticed you have many breaks in the song , http://puu.sh/oDkDV/3da89fbf72.jpg , taking this section as an example. You see many breaks in your objects which disrupt flow movement . Try to put stuff in those areas

Ok I'll stop here . Overall , a really well done map considering its your first . Just some stuff here and there that needs fixing and you're good to go :) Feel free to contact me online or via forum pm if you are unclear about anything I said in my mods . Good luck :)
Thank you so much Ars Novaa for these detailed and explicit explanations :) I'll take into account all of your suggestions no problem. Being a first time mapper I really need someone to show me the ropes. And you did just that. Thank you :oops:
Pentori
remember to click the Give Kudos button to those that helped out a lot with your map!


it increases the priority of your map and at the same time gives the modder some credit for their hard work :p


but don't give kudosu when the user didn't really assist in the construction of your map e.g timing help, background image suggestions, or a post like this. if you try to do so a moderator will deny it!



i'll take a look at your map for you tomorrow :D
Topic Starter
ariffleng

Pentori wrote:

remember to click the Give Kudos button to those that helped out a lot with your map!


it increases the priority of your map and at the same time gives the modder some credit for their hard work :p


but don't give kudosu when the user didn't really assist in the construction of your map e.g timing help, background image suggestions, or a post like this. if you try to do so a moderator will deny it!



i'll take a look at your map for you tomorrow :D
Yeah I planned to do just that tonight after I put a good finishing touch to it. Ars Novaa really helped heaps in this map. :lol:
Pentori
heya there. i got a bit of time so i'll do my nm now :3
from my queue

[General]
you should mute the slides of your sliders just download this and drop it into your folder
your background dimensions are 768 x 768. you should find a background that is of the screen ratio 16:9 such as 1366 x 768 or 1280 x 720

[love live daisuki]
00:02:307 (4,5) - if you refer to the grid you can have this to be a straight line
00:05:307 (1,2,3,4) - you can make perfect squares using the create polygon circles tool
00:12:230 (6) - you missed a clap here. try to have a constant hitsound beat through the louder parts of the song c:
00:49:384 (4,5,6) - finishes should be used when there are cymbal crashes or when playing a downbeat. you can keep the one on 6 but remove it from 4,5
00:52:153 (5,6,7) - ^ (not gonna list all of them you can probably look over them yourself)
00:54:230 (3,5) - careful of this overlap
01:20:768 (7,8) - if you line the slider points up with the approach circle of 7, you can form a perfect blanket. you should keep this rule in mind when doing any blanket
01:26:538 (1) - heres a good example to put a finish
02:09:922 (1,1,1) - dont really have to put the ncs here
02:34:845 (2,3) - its very hard to see the note under slider 2. try avoid overlaps like this
03:44:076 - need a note here to keep the flow going
04:05:307 (1,2) - i suggest making this a slider and having it reverse like this

04:29:768 (1) - you only really need 3 points to a curve. too many makes the slider look wonky
04:38:538 (7) - put a new combo here. don't let jumps run too long on 1 combo

good luck! hopefully i gave you enough points that you can apply to the rest of your map :D
Topic Starter
ariffleng

Pentori wrote:

heya there. i got a bit of time so i'll do my nm now :3
from my queue

[General]
you should mute the slides of your sliders just download this and drop it into your folder
your background dimensions are 768 x 768. you should find a background that is of the screen ratio 16:9 such as 1366 x 768 or 1280 x 720

[love live daisuki]
00:02:307 (4,5) - if you refer to the grid you can have this to be a straight line
00:05:307 (1,2,3,4) - you can make perfect squares using the create polygon circles tool
00:12:230 (6) - you missed a clap here. try to have a constant hitsound beat through the louder parts of the song c:
00:49:384 (4,5,6) - finishes should be used when there are cymbal crashes or when playing a downbeat. you can keep the one on 6 but remove it from 4,5
00:52:153 (5,6,7) - ^ (not gonna list all of them you can probably look over them yourself)
00:54:230 (3,5) - careful of this overlap
01:20:768 (7,8) - if you line the slider points up with the approach circle of 7, you can form a perfect blanket. you should keep this rule in mind when doing any blanket
01:26:538 (1) - heres a good example to put a finish
02:09:922 (1,1,1) - dont really have to put the ncs here
02:34:845 (2,3) - its very hard to see the note under slider 2. try avoid overlaps like this
03:44:076 - need a note here to keep the flow going
04:05:307 (1,2) - i suggest making this a slider and having it reverse like this

04:29:768 (1) - you only really need 3 points to a curve. too many makes the slider look wonky
04:38:538 (7) - put a new combo here. don't let jumps run too long on 1 combo

good luck! hopefully i gave you enough points that you can apply to the rest of your map :D
Hi Pentori. About half an hour before you posted I've made a major overhaul on the map since you mentioned you're going to mod the map tomorrow. Hopefully your heaps of pointers up there were referring to my updated map :cry: And thanks much man really appreciate it :D
Sylvette

Pentori wrote:

but don't give kudosu when the user didn't really assist in the construction of your map e.g timing help

Pentori wrote:

timing help
1v1 me m8

Anyways... mod from the worst modding queue.

Bold is unrankable.
Red should really be fixed.
Orange should be changed.
Blue is just a suggestion.

Hard
00:07:615 (4) - This slider doesn't look very visually appealing.
00:20:768 (3,4,5) - Please fix overlap.
00:21:922 (7) - Remove the slider point circled on the image below to make slider more visually appealing.

dont talk shit about my circle drawing skills pls
00:27:461 (1,2) - Improve blanket.
00:32:076 (4,5) - This slider isn't very visually appealing, make curve better. Also, make blanket better.
00:32:768 (5,6) - ^
00:35:538 (4,5,6) - Fix overlap, please.
00:41:538 (4,5,6) - Don't do straight circle patterns like this, they look quite bad.
00:47:768 (1,2,3) - Make sliders more visually appealing, and change the hitcircle's position so it doesn't seem random.
00:50:538 (2) - This slight overlap should be changed.
00:53:307 (1,2) - Improve blanket.
00:57:691 (5) - Fix overlap.
00:57:922 (6) - Improve blanket.
01:13:384 (4) - I suggest moving this down by one grid space.
01:30:231 (1,2) - Improve blanket.
01:31:154 (3,4,5) - ^
01:37:385 (4) - Fix overlap.
01:40:153 (7,8,9,10,11) - This part may be hard for the normal Hard player.
01:52:153 (6) - Fix overlap.
01:55:153 (7) - This slider is very visually unappealing.
02:39:691 (6) - I suggest making this a flipped version of 02:39:230 (5) -
02:41:307 (6,7) - Improve blanket.
02:45:922 (1,2,3,4,5) - Sliders are visually unappealing, hitcircle placement seems random.
03:48:691 (1) - This slider is fine until the end.
03:57:461 (1) - I suggest moving this up by one grid space so it is on the middle line.
03:59:768 (1) - I suggest moving this down by one grid space so it is on the center.
04:10:615 (1) - Remove combo, and put a new combo on the slider after this beat.
04:33:230 (4,5) - Improve blanket.
04:41:999 (5,6) - ^

Good luck with the map.
Topic Starter
ariffleng
Thanks a lot Cirno really appreciate it. Really need to work on the sliders + blankets asap. This should keep me busy for a while.
PlasticMemor
hey from modding queue!

[General]
  1. artist name is wrong, here is correct μ's
  2. i think you should change background to this

    [Hard]
  3. you should change the name of difficulty
  4. 00:06:230 (5,8) - overlap
  5. 00:07:615 (4) - change this slider to make it more appealing
  6. 00:15:230 (2,3) - check distance!
  7. 00:21:691 (6,7) - change so that it can be hit from 5 and readable
  8. 00:23:768 (1,2,3) - change pattern so it looks like this
  9. 00:25:615 (5,6) - distance
  10. 00:28:384 (3,4) - ^ shouldn't be touching
  11. 00:34:845 (3,6) - i would curve these sliders
  12. 00:36:691 (8) - ctrl+h and rotate
  13. 01:10:153 (1) - spinner recovery time, consider moving it or slider
  14. 01:15:461 (1,2) - fix the overlap
  15. 01:18:691 (8,9,1) - fix distance they shouldn't be touching
  16. 01:25:384 (1,2,3) - i would space these out and change slider 1 to repeat
  17. 01:26:538 (1,2) - distance!
  18. 01:28:154 (4,5) - blanket
  19. 01:29:769 (10,1) - change so that 10 doesn't touch 1
  20. 01:41:076 (11) - i would change that to match the previous sliders
  21. 01:42:691 (5,6,1) - blanket
  22. 01:44:538 (6,1) - overlap
  23. 01:51:230 (4,6) - ^
  24. 01:54:691 - add a circle there or make it a mini stream
  25. 01:58:615 (6,9) - overlap
  26. 02:09:691 - add a circle here
  27. 02:13:615 (6,8) - overlap
  28. 02:20:076 (5,6,7,8) - fix this overlap
  29. 02:25:615 (1,2,3) - change to slider then circle then slider
  30. 02:45:461 (5,6) - change to slider
  31. 02:45:922 (1,2,3,4,5) - is it me or is this pattern slanted a little?
  32. 02:59:538 (7,8,9) - spread the pattern out
  33. 03:00:691 (1,3) - over lap the end to the beginning of slider
  34. 03:01:384 (2,4) - overlappp
  35. 03:03:230 (6,7) - change this pattern
  36. 03:09:922 (3,4,5) - spread out the pattern to a equal distance and move to the middle of the grid
  37. 03:15:230 (7,8) - change this to that 8 is separate from 7
  38. 03:18:807 - start the break here
  39. 03:32:076 (1,2,3) - change this pattern and move 2 to overlap 3
  40. 03:35:768 (1,2,3,4,5) - this looks really weird
  41. 03:37:384 (1,2) - overlap the end of 1 onto the beginning of 2
  42. 03:37:615 (2,3,4,5,6) - change the distance please!
  43. 03:47:307 (2) - don't just have a repeating slider here remap this part
  44. 03:52:384 (1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1) - remove NC from all the 1's and add a pattern don't just map to the middle
  45. 04:04:730 - add a circle here
  46. 04:05:307 (7) - add a clap hitsound or something here
  47. 04:08:768 (4,6) - overlapppppppppppp
  48. 04:11:538 (3,4,5,6) - distance
  49. 04:12:461 (6,2) - overlap
  50. 04:15:922 (5,8) - overlap
  51. 04:26:076 (1,2,3) - change the distance of sliders
  52. 04:30:461 (2,3,4,5) - change this pattern please
  53. 04:37:153 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - if these are jumps then spread them out some more
  54. 04:40:153 (1) - check distance
  55. 04:44:076 (2,3,4) - ^
  56. 04:46:845 (1,2,3) - ^
  57. 04:48:691 (5,6) - ^
  58. 04:49:384 (6,2,5) - overlap
  59. 04:53:307 (5) - this looks very weird
  60. 04:53:307 (5,1,2) - distance check please

You should check the blankets and stacks, and mostly distance

GL with your beatmap!
Topic Starter
ariffleng

PlasticMemor wrote:

artist name is wrong, here is correct μ's
I've changed the Artist name to μ's, but for the romanised artist slot it didn't seem to let me put in characters other than alphabets. :?

PlasticMemor wrote:

i think you should change background to this
Good idea bro. I shall use this at once!

PlasticMemor wrote:

01:10:153 (1) - spinner recovery time, consider moving it or slider
A bit confused here. Mind elaborating a bit?

Cheers man! As detailed and explicit as it can get :D :D Thanks for the tips
propasy
Sound - The hit sound effects are a bit repetitive. I rekon you should make the hit sounds in kiai mode different from the non-kiai mode for more variety
02:09:691 (8,9,10,11) – Due to the sound of the music, I think circle 8 should appear different to the rest. Perhaps make note 9,10 and 11 a little more spread out. Something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5135363 (Just an idea of the mapping pattern)
02:23:768 (1,2,3,4) – I think there should be another note at 2:24:345 due to the music
02:32:768 (1,2,3,4,5) – I personally would have made note 3 a slider and end at 5 but I see the approach your trying to make
02:52:153 (7,8,9,10,11) – Try make the notes more parallel. Also I think it should look like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5135405
02:59:538 (7,8) – I think you should increase slider 7’s bounce while reducing slider 8’s bounce (and moving its position in the timebar) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5135432
03:19:153 – If your planning to put a delay for the break, I think this should be a better spot as it more appropriately fits the music, or just put the break in as soon as possible (so people who did crap at that last second still have a fighting chance)
03:28:845 – You should add some extra circles here to turn this triple click 03:29:076 (1,2,3) - into a small stream
03:29:999 (1) – You should make that a slider starting at 03:29:768
03:35:768 (1,2,3,4,5) – make the spacing a bit more even
03:47:307 (2,3,4,5,6,7) – Personally, I didn’t think this slider stream didn’t fit with the music
03:52:384 (1) – I think this not shouldn’t be in the centre
04:20:999 (3,4,5,6) – I think all these sliders should be facing right of pointing at each other instead of pointing up
04:53:307 (5,6) – I think note 6 should be under the slider
Topic Starter
ariffleng

propasy wrote:

Sound - The hit sound effects are a bit repetitive. I rekon you should make the hit sounds in kiai mode different from the non-kiai mode for more variety
I have to disagree with this. Imo the hitsound effects are good to have, they emphasise certain parts of the music, but not to a point where it could be disruptive in the music. As in altering the originality of the music. ;)

propasy wrote:

02:23:768 (1,2,3,4) – I think there should be another note at 2:24:345 due to the music
Sounds good but I think it would be quite hard for a hard diff player. Imma stick to the original :)

propasy wrote:

02:09:691 (8,9,10,11) – Due to the sound of the music, I think circle 8 should appear different to the rest. Perhaps make note 9,10 and 11 a little more spread out. Something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5135363 (Just an idea of the mapping pattern)
02:32:768 (1,2,3,4,5) – I personally would have made note 3 a slider and end at 5 but I see the approach your trying to make
02:52:153 (7,8,9,10,11) – Try make the notes more parallel. Also I think it should look like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5135405
02:59:538 (7,8) – I think you should increase slider 7’s bounce while reducing slider 8’s bounce (and moving its position in the timebar) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5135432
03:19:153 – If your planning to put a delay for the break, I think this should be a better spot as it more appropriately fits the music, or just put the break in as soon as possible (so people who did crap at that last second still have a fighting chance)
03:28:845 – You should add some extra circles here to turn this triple click 03:29:076 (1,2,3) - into a small stream
03:29:999 (1) – You should make that a slider starting at 03:29:768
03:35:768 (1,2,3,4,5) – make the spacing a bit more even
03:47:307 (2,3,4,5,6,7) – Personally, I didn’t think this slider stream didn’t fit with the music
03:52:384 (1) – I think this not shouldn’t be in the centre
04:20:999 (3,4,5,6) – I think all these sliders should be facing right of pointing at each other instead of pointing up
04:53:307 (5,6) – I think note 6 should be under the slider
All check! Great ideas man. Really appreciate it. :D :D
B r o k e n
My modding queue

The one and only, Hard
General: I'm not so sure if you're placing notes randomly without using distancing snap or not, I tired a few distance snap 1.0-1.4 they don't match up at all, a few notes match up to 1.2 tho, I suggest you use grid snap and distance snap all notes on grid
00:01:615 (1,2,3,4,5) - doesn't seem like it's the same distances
00:14:538 (1) - blanket better
00:32:999 (6) - ^
00:33:922 (8) - stack under the tail of 00:32:076 (4) -
00:36:691 (8,9,10) - add a bit more of a distance, stronger music beat, emphasize it with a bit of more distance, nothing too big though, something like 1.5 or 1.6 distance
00:49:615 (5) - blanket better(last blanket I'm pointing out), I normally don't mod for blankets but I'm just pointing them out, mapset has a lot of blankets, think of blanketing them better or reduce the amount of blanketing you do
01:00:461 add single note here for vocal if you want too
01:01:384 (3) - doesn't fit too well, consider doing 1/2 slider and a single note or a 1/2 return slider
01:07:845 (4) - turn into single note if you do this do the one on the below this one too
01:08:076 spin should actually start here, but some mappers do like to add notes where the spin should start and start the spin afterwards, it's all on preference
01:11:768 (1) - 01:12:691 (3) - 01:13:615 (5) - too many straight sliders, mix it up a bit curve them, do unique shape sliders or so
01:56:768 (2,3,4,5) - I feel like you should distance these instead of having them so close like that
02:09:922 (9,10,11) - should have the same distance note 8 to 9 has such a different distance then 9 to 10 to 11, should just 1.6 distance 9 10 11
02:16:845 (2,3) - you can follow the music better here by having single notes, change 02:16:384 (1) - into full beat slider, 02:17:076 add single note, change 02:17:307 (3) - into 2 single note, the single notes will be number 2 3 4 and 5, distance them like 1.6 or stack them all together, for emphasizing the music
02:45:922 (1) - 02:46:845 (3) - 02:47:768 (5) - so many straights again, well I personally just don't like too much straights like this
03:53:999 (2) - no sound on red tick no need to do a slider, just stick with the single note on the white tick
03:55:845 (4) - ^
04:37:153 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - these distance might be a bit too much for hard, consider reducing it a bit, like 1.8 distance, I have no problem with it being like this but, it may be a bit too much as a hard
some areas you can follow the music a lot better, but you didn't follow it
Underforest
Drain time is unrankable
You should map the break and make the spinner finish at 5:02
Topic Starter
ariffleng

B r o k e n wrote:

01:11:768 (1) - 01:12:691 (3) - 01:13:615 (5) - too many straight sliders, mix it up a bit curve them, do unique shape sliders or so
02:09:922 (9,10,11) - should have the same distance note 8 to 9 has such a different distance then 9 to 10 to 11, should just 1.6 distance 9 10 11
02:16:845 (2,3) - you can follow the music better here by having single notes, change 02:16:384 (1) - into full beat slider, 02:17:076 add single note, change 02:17:307 (3) - into 2 single note, the single notes will be number 2 3 4 and 5, distance them like 1.6 or stack them all together, for emphasizing the music
03:53:999 (2) - no sound on red tick no need to do a slider, just stick with the single note on the white tick
03:55:845 (4) - ^
Thumbs up! Good suggestions.

B r o k e n wrote:

04:37:153 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - these distance might be a bit too much for hard, consider reducing it a bit, like 1.8 distance, I have no problem with it being like this but, it may be a bit too much as a hard
I personally think hard players nowadays are able to do jumps like that. And hence the reason I put that sort of jumps (See Fycho's 3.5* map - Nichijou Decoration)
But I changed it according to your suggestion anyways no problemo.
Thanks for the mod!
Topic Starter
ariffleng

Underforest wrote:

Drain time is unrankable
You should map the break and make the spinner finish at 5:02
Yeah thats what I thought first. And someone did tell me placing the break at that specific place will emphasise the feel when the chorus transitions to the guitar solo part, but I guess that will not do yeah. In term of rankability.
DeletedUser_6181859
Hey from my queue, my name is Max 100bit, and this is my mod!
Well, opinion of modder is opinion of modder.
Do not judge strictly, I could be wrong.
And yep, I am just learning. My english is bad, so sorry for googletranslate.
Song and Beatmaps
Strange BG-ratio. Normal resolution for 16:9 is 1366x768. Also you can change picture because this picture have bad quality.
Title is さようならへさよなら!(remove "Sayonara e Sayonara!" from Title because you have it in Romanised Title)
Sayonara
Offset is 1629. :!:
00:17:999 (5,6) - don't stack
00:21:691 (6,7) - ^
00:53:307 - 01:04:038 - maybe put in 00:50:307 inherit points with 0.75x Slider Velosity speed?
01:10:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - claps everywhere is bad, i think.
01:25:384 (1,2,3,4,5) - it looks weird, what about stream?
01:29:077 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - this pattern is boring
01:40:153 (7,8,9,10,11) - overdose of kicksliders!
01:46:384 (7,1) - strange stack
01:50:307 (2,3) - don't stack
01:53:999 (5,6) - fix flow
02:08:076 (5,7) - try to avoid overlap
02:10:845 (1,2) - fix this jump, it's confused
02:12:691 (5,6) - ^
02:43:153 (3) - strange slider, i think
02:45:345 (4,5) - maybe continue stream with 02:44:999 (1,2,3) ?
02:48:691 (7,9) - don't stack
02:59:538 (7,8) - strange sliders because you have not-identical repeats, you can make another sliders or stream here
03:11:768 (2,3) - fix flow
03:37:384 (1,2) - don't stack
03:56:999 (7) - nc?
03:52:384 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - recheck jumps
04:04:730 (6) - change to circles for stream?
04:07:153 (1) - strange slider in terms of constructing
04:20:999 (3,4,5,6) - very strange pattern, i think
04:37:153 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - make another jump-pattern
04:48:461 (1,2) - don't stack
04:48:691 (2,3,4) - fix flow
04:54:807 (1) - end in 05:00:691
Good luck!
{end of mod}
Topic Starter
ariffleng

100bit wrote:

[Song and Beatmaps]Strange BG-ratio. Normal resolution for 16:9 is 1366x768. Also you can change picture because this picture have bad quality.
Title is さようならへさよなら!(remove "Sayonara e Sayonara!" from Title because you have it in Romanised Title)[/box]
[Sayonara]Offset is 1629. :!:
00:17:999 (5,6) - don't stack
00:21:691 (6,7) - ^
00:53:307 - 01:04:038 - maybe put in 00:50:307 inherit points with 0.75x Slider Velosity speed?
01:25:384 (1,2,3,4,5) - it looks weird, what about stream?
01:29:077 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - this pattern is boring
01:40:153 (7,8,9,10,11) - overdose of kicksliders!
01:46:384 (7,1) - strange stack
01:50:307 (2,3) - don't stack
01:53:999 (5,6) - fix flow
02:08:076 (5,7) - try to avoid overlap
02:10:845 (1,2) - fix this jump, it's confused
02:12:691 (5,6) - ^
02:43:153 (3) - strange slider, i think
02:48:691 (7,9) - don't stack
03:11:768 (2,3) - fix flow
03:37:384 (1,2) - don't stack
03:56:999 (7) - nc?
03:52:384 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - recheck jumps
04:04:730 (6) - change to circles for stream?
04:07:153 (1) - strange slider in terms of constructing
04:20:999 (3,4,5,6) - very strange pattern, i think
04:37:153 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - make another jump-pattern
04:48:461 (1,2) - don't stack
04:48:691 (2,3,4) - fix flow
04:54:807 (1) - end in 05:00:691
Good luck!
{end of mod}
All fixed! Except

100bit wrote:

01:10:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - claps everywhere is bad, i think.
02:59:538 (7,8) - strange sliders because you have not-identical repeats, you can make another sliders or stream here
02:45:345 (4,5) - maybe continue stream with 02:44:999 (1,2,3) ?
Cheers man :) Like your mod
Izzywing
Hey, here's the mod from my queue.

[Hard]

00:10:859 (1) - this NC feels unnecesary
00:14:552 (1) - so does this one
00:56:782 (3,4) - improve blanket
01:11:667 (8,1) - spacing randomly increases from the stream here, feel like it should be same spacing as the stream
01:49:167 (1) - I don't like this reverse slider, there are distinct sounds at 01:49:398 and 01:49:859 that are worth mapping
02:58:859 (6,7) - Try making these not overlap
03:04:167 (9,2) - stack?
03:48:705 (4) - that last slider end could be tucked in a bit more, have both 03:47:552 (3,4) showing at the same time you'll see what i mean. Also, cool slider design! i like it a lot.
04:21:475 (2) - Kinda nitpicky but i'd stack this with 04:21:475 (5)

Oof, short mod. This map is pretty crisp as it is, good slider shapes and the flow was nice overall. Liked it a lot.

Good luck!
Topic Starter
ariffleng

Hobbes2 wrote:

Hey, here's the mod from my queue.

[Hard]

00:10:859 (1) - this NC feels unnecesary
00:14:552 (1) - so does this one
00:56:782 (3,4) - improve blanket
01:11:667 (8,1) - spacing randomly increases from the stream here, feel like it should be same spacing as the stream
01:49:167 (1) - I don't like this reverse slider, there are distinct sounds at 01:49:398 and 01:49:859 that are worth mapping
02:58:859 (6,7) - Try making these not overlap
03:04:167 (9,2) - stack?
03:48:705 (4) - that last slider end could be tucked in a bit more, have both 03:47:552 (3,4) showing at the same time you'll see what i mean. Also, cool slider design! i like it a lot.
04:21:475 (2) - Kinda nitpicky but i'd stack this with 04:21:475 (5)

Oof, short mod. This map is pretty crisp as it is, good slider shapes and the flow was nice overall. Liked it a lot.

Good luck!
Fixed everything~ Cheers man! It may be a short mod but surely it IS useful. For that I thank you :D :D
Vanillas
Hi~~ From my queue

[General]
  1. Tags: move Jpop, add characters‘ name and their CVs to tags.
  2. Diff name: As the name of the song is "Sayounara", you can use another diff name to show the meaning. I prefer "Farewell“, but it's up to you.
  3. Combo color: Although I wanna 9 color, you know what I mean. Only a suggestion.(But there are only 8 colors max)
  4. HP -> 5, AR -> 8 or 7.5.
  5. hitsound: I suggest you redo it as you only use "clap" and "Finish". You can use more hitsound and add your own.(E.g: add something at 00:07:398 (1,2,3,4,5) - )
  6. Try to use full screen. Use Ctrl + A to check.
[Kiai time]
  1. Start kiai time at: 01:11:782. You should start a kiai time when there is a long white line.
  2. New kiai time at 04:21:936 to make a fountain (That is to say, end kiai time at 04:21:821. start kiai time at 04:21:936)
  3. If you do, then you can also add new kiai time at 00:09:013 01:26:552 03:00:705 to make a fountain.
[New combo(NC)]
  1. Check your NC, it's a little Under consideration and there is no need to make a combo to 8,9 or more. E.g: add NC at 00:07:167 (9) - and move NC at 00:07:398 (1) - , add NC at 00:10:859 (5) - , Add NC at 00:14:552 (5) - Add NC at 00:16:398 (10) - etc...
  2. Add NC when it is white line, try not add NC at red line.
[Sayonara]
  1. 00:02:552 (5,6,7,8) - replace them with two slidders? I think this can make a group of combo various. And the same as 00:06:244 (5,6,7,8) -
  2. 00:16:398 (10,1) - I think a slidder is better than two circles. As you follow the electric guitar here.
  3. 00:14:090 (4,5) - Blanket
  4. 00:23:321 (9) - NC here. I suggest using NC when there is a jump.
  5. 00:36:705 (9) - move it to X:1580 Y:198
  6. 00:37:859 (10,11) - NC as jump.
  7. 00:38:552 (1,2) - 00:40:398 (1,2) - replace them with slidders.
  8. 00:49:629 (5,1) - Blanket
  9. 00:53:090 Missing note.
  10. 01:04:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - I suggest you only use 1/2 slidders here. As there is obvious drum at every white line.
  11. 02:36:475 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
  12. Move 01:08:321 (1) - to 01:08:090 and finish at 01:09:475
  13. Add notes at 01:09:936 01:10:398/
  14. 01:12:705 (3) - Listen carefully you missed several notes at this long slidders. The same missing at 01:14:667 01:15:359 01:16:398 (3) - etc...
  15. 01:26:552 (1) - 01:41:321 (1) - 02:10:859 (1) - Add Finish. (etc...)
  16. 01:56:782 (2,3,4,5) - I suggest do not start a slidder at a red line. Start them when there is a white line. You did well at 01:59:782 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - .
  17. 02:03:475 (8,1) - replace them with a slidder.
  18. 02:09:936 (9,10,11) - NC
  19. 02:11:552 02:12:475 02:13:398. missing note.
  20. 02:25:398 02:27:244 ^
  21. 02:28:398 (3,4) - replace with 2 slidders.
  22. To make a stream, add notes at 02:45:590 02:45:821
  23. 02:53:321 (1) - a repeater not seems good. you can use 2 slidders.
  24. 02:59:552 (7,8) - Try this:
  25. 03:11:782 (2) - finish at 03:18:705
  26. 03:21:013 (4,5,6,7) - maybe you can replace them with slidders.
  27. 03:24:705 (5,6,7,8) - ^ And add NC at 5.
  28. 03:28:629 (2) - NC
  29. Add notes at 03:28:859 03:28:975
  30. 03:33:013 (3) - Wrong rhythm! using 1/3 rhythm please!
  31. 03:48:705 (4) - Finish at 03:50:090 and add notes at 03:50:552 03:51:475 03:53:321 And use NC at every notes.
  32. 03:58:859 04:00:705 add a note
  33. 04:02:090 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you can use triangle or five-pointed star.
  34. 04:03:705 04:03:936 Add notes
  35. 04:05:321 (7) - replace it with 3 circles and jump.
  36. 04:06:821 missing 3 notes
  37. 04:54:821 (1) - move it to 04:55:052 finish at 05:02:552 and add note at 04:54:936
Good luck on your map~~ :)

μ'sic forever!
BigEarsMau
Hi hi M4M from my queue :3

[Metadata]
  1. Current romanized song title is wrong. The correct title is "Sayounara e Sayonara", as seen in the official Love Live! wiki
  2. I agree with Vanillas' opinion about the diff name. You should change it since "Sayonara" is also in the song's title and it just sounds weird if you keep it. However, it's your choice you wanna change it or not
  3. Remove "anime" from the tags bc if this map got ranked, the genre would be automatically set as "Anime" by a BN
  4. Correct source is "ラブライブ! School idol project". Check out the most recent ranked Love Live maps if you don't believe me
[Sayonara]
  1. 00:04:629 (4,5) - Blanket is still not perfect. Curve the slider a bit more. Also, stack 00:04:629 (4) under 00:02:782 (6) so it'll be tidier than before
  2. 00:06:244 (5) - If you have stacked 00:04:629 (4) , then stack 00:06:244 (5) under it so it looks tidier
  3. 00:07:398 (1) - You should use a Drum-Finish hitsound since this section of the song has a loud drum sound
  4. 00:07:629 (3) - Like the above, this time use Drum-Clap in the sliderhead and a Drum-Finish in the slidertail so it matches the drum sounds in the music
  5. 00:08:436 (4,5) - Use Drum-Finish for both of these to match the drum sounds of the music
  6. 00:09:013 (1) - A Soft-Finish would be nice to begin this part of the song
  7. 00:14:090 (4,5) - Blanket is still not perfect. Please fix it
  8. 00:15:475 (7) - Maybe you can make it curved like this so it looks nicer in terms of aesthetics and it can also acts as a tidy blanket to 00:16:167 (8)
  9. 00:19:167 (8) - I don't know but sliders like these looks like it came from 2010. You should make it more curved like this so it looks nicer and "fresh" like you call it in these days
  10. 00:20:090 (1) - ^ You can copy 00:19:167 (8) and then Ctrl + G then Ctrl + H so it looks parallel
  11. 00:21:936 (6) - This slider just sounds weird for me. I think it is bc the slider doesn't end in an upbeat (white tick), despite that it fits with the music, but still plays a bit weird. My suggestion is to end 00:21:936 (6) in 00:22:398 and add a circle in 00:22:629 (this can also act as a triplet with the next circles). The final result should look like this
  12. 00:27:475 (1,2) - Acting a bit like a Nazi, but this blanket is still not perfect
  13. 00:28:859 (4,5) - ^
  14. 00:42:013 (6,1) - ^
  15. 00:47:321 (6,1) - ^
  16. 00:48:475 (2,3) - ^
  17. 00:49:629 (5,1,2) - Looks unpleasing to me since the sliders doesn't look symmetrical and the blankets are really untidy. Make it look like this
  18. 00:57:705 (5,6) - Untidy blanket
  19. 00:58:859 (8,11) - Man, you have a lot of 2010 sliders, which look really untidy. Make it look like this
  20. 01:08:205 - You should start the spinner here so it will instantly plays from 01:07:859 (4) and also to fit with the long vocals
  21. 01:40:167 (7,8,9,10,11) - This looks aesthetically unpleasing. Make it something like this so it wouldn't be confusing as before
  22. 02:10:859 (1,2,5,6) - Spacing for these is inconsistent. Consider to space them tidily
  23. 03:47:552 (3,4) - Bad overlap. Try to make something that is much more readable
  24. 04:04:629 (5,6) - Yeaaaa, this will screw up newcoming players. Try to have consistent spacing with these
  25. 04:21:013 (3,4,5,6) - Same as before with the "aesthetically unpleasing" part. Make them spaced or something
  26. 04:23:782 (7,1) - Fix the spacing
  27. 04:40:167 (1,2) - Fix blanket
  28. 04:54:821 - Add a circle here and move the spinner to 04:54:936 so it plays better
Man, I almost passed out when I'm typing this big wall of text xP

Currently, I'm concerned about the drain time. You know that songs under 5 mins of drain time cannot be considered as an "Approved" map, so a diff spread might have to be made. However, I hope you can figure this out

Another thing that really bugs me is that the hitsounds are lacking at some parts. Consider to add more of them to the parts where you think is fitting

Well, that's all from me. Hope this helps
Good luck in being ranked :)
Del05


Hi
Sorry for late

[Sayonara]
  1. 00:01:629 until 00:07:167 - how about you use slider every this kind of sound 00:01:629 , i think it is better. if like that, you must change 00:01:629 (1) - 00:05:321 (1) - to slider, and change 00:04:167 (3,5) - to circle
  2. 00:07:167 (9) - NC, okay i kinda confused how you use NC, at the beginning you use every big white tick but later you use every 2 big white tick, better to use it constantly, every 1 big white tick or every 2 big white tick
  3. 00:07:629 (3) - please map this rhythm, it feel off with this kind of slider. change it become http://puu.sh/p5T58/74bee0692b.jpg, first delete 00:07:398 (1,2) - then change them to become like my example
  4. 00:15:475 (7) - how about make it blanket with 00:16:167 (8) -
  5. 00:16:859 (1) - please make it further
  6. 00:21:936 (6) - again, please make this rhythm, for 00:21:936 until 00:23:667 , please make it --> http://puu.sh/p5Tke/f45be6bc21.jpg.
  7. 00:25:629 (5) - 00:29:321 (5) - please make it 1/1 slider, i dont see the reason why you use extended slider
  8. 00:27:475 (1) - how about make it become 1/2 slider with rebound ? cause i can hear vocal at 00:27:705
  9. 00:49:629 (5,2) - can improve blanket
  10. 00:53:090 - add a circle
  11. 00:57:936 (6) - improve blanket
  12. 01:06:013 (6) - http://puu.sh/p5TGH/dc96ef842a.jpg, and delete NC at 01:06:705 (1) -
  13. 01:12:936 - i can hear a beat song at this time, please consider to not skip it
  14. 01:16:629 - 01:22:167 - 01:24:013 - 01:27:705 - 01:31:398 - 01:36:936 - 01:38:782 - 02:47:090 - 02:50:782 - 02:56:321 - 02:58:167 - 02:59:090 - 03:01:859 - 03:07:398 - 03:09:244 - 03:11:090 - 03:12:936 - 04:08:321 - 04:17:552 - 04:19:398 - 04:41:552 - 04:45:244 - 04:48:936 - 04:50:782 - 04:52:629 - i can hear a beat song at this time, please consider to not skip it. At some part of the song, you're not skip it, so why you skip it at that many time xD, then i think better to make the rhythm constant, so consider to map that beats sound
  15. 00:54:244 (3) - improve blanket
  16. 01:33:013 (8) - http://puu.sh/p5TUi/f73598b3fa.jpg
  17. 01:35:782 (1,3) - improve blanket
  18. 02:24:475 (2,3,4) - bad overlap with 02:23:782 (1) - , move it higher please
  19. 02:25:629 (1,3) - improve blanket
  20. 02:27:475 (1) - how to make it symetry with 02:26:552 (3) - , just copy 02:26:552 (3) - then ctrl+h and ctrl+j
  21. 02:43:167 (3) - please map it --> http://puu.sh/p5Uj7/343ff40f00.jpg, delete 02:44:321 (2) - , cause we will change 02:44:090 (1) - with slider
  22. 02:49:167 (9) - i think it is too close with 02:48:705 (7) - , move it to x:202;y:41
  23. 02:44:782 (4) - move it to x:148;y:292
  24. 03:04:398 (1) - why you use rebound at blue tick ???? change please, it feel off and not suit tbh, use rebound at red tick ( 03:04:629 )
  25. 03:28:859 - 03:28:975 - add circle and delete NC at 03:29:090 (1) - http://puu.sh/p5Va1/2cd156cd72.jpg
  26. 03:32:090 (1) - please make it become 1/1 slider and add circle at 03:32:782 -
  27. 03:32:898 (3) - make it become like this --> http://puu.sh/p5ViV/fe97cb907f.jpg
  28. 04:03:705 - 04:03:936 - add circle we still can hear the beat, right ? so better to map it
  29. 04:37:859 (4) - move it to x:147;y:119
  30. 04:38:552 (7) - stack with 04:37:398 (2) -
  31. 04:38:321 (6) - move it to x:204;y:248
  32. 04:39:475 (11) - http://puu.sh/p5VYg/b3c582fc1d.jpg, change 04:39:475 (11) - with 1/2 slider and then add circle at 04:39:821 - 04:39:936 -
  33. 04:53:321 (7) - http://puu.sh/p5Wbv/71b85a0203.jpg
  34. 04:54:821 (1) - move spinner to the next red tick

Okay, i agree with BEM about the hitsound, hitsound sure are lacking in some part, you can improve it. About the placement, jump, blanket, and rhythm too, you still can improve it a lot, especially for the rhythm, please consider what i said at that mod :D. And if you confuse about my mod, you can contact me in-game when i online

That's all from me
Sorry if i use rude word or too harsh
Thank you :D and good luck
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