1. LOVELESS ONI (5,96 stars, 1868 notes)

Acrith wrote:

Hello! Coming from my queue! t/446294

00:28:788 (45,46,47,48,49) - This, and 00:31:845 (57,58,59,60,61,62) - Basically are the "same" on rhythm. Let's make some small corrections:
00:30:125 (51) - This should be kat, if you're following the drum hit. Since you started to make the hit stronger with finisher, the second don before that is useless. And after change it will be a similar for reserve further.
00:32:418 (61) - This should definitely be kat, to make the next finisher don stronger in rhythm (and you still like to do a good hit background, so hey! do that!)

I tried too change these notes to k and i need to say that sounds a bit weird for me, for now i'll keep with d, they sounds good for me

Part from 93 combo can be better, it's full of "waiting". I'd suggest to make it somehow better with follow on guitar btw. Example is:

The selected (93) circle is from your map, the guitar pattern repeats of those seven notes so really (then goes your K D K from 101 to 103), and it goes three times like that. To perform this, you need to add: dons at: 00:38:915 (+ two next 1/4 ticks), kat here: 00:39:297, dons at: 00:39:488 (+ two next 1/4 ticks). Then goes dons 00:40:444 (+ two next 1/4 ticks), kat here: 00:40:826, dons at 00:41:017 (+ two next 1/4 ticks). Then goes dons 00:41:973 (+ two next 1/4 ticks), kat here: 00:42:355, dons here: 00:42:546 (+ two next 1/4 ticks). Would only change 00:42:928 (121) - to be a Kat finisher, and 00:43:883 (125) - for be a Don finisher (to make rhythm better).
Overall should look like this http://i.imgur.com/AkH2iLH.png

This is a ''calm'' part, your suggestion is not bad but i would prefer to keep with this amount of notes

00:56:304 (202) - If you're sure of kat finisher here, make 00:56:495 (203,204,205,206,207) - to be not ddddd but dkddk. Why? You gonna hear a nice 1/3 part fiting rhythm. i don't understand, a pattern like that doesn't affect to the 1/3 rhythm of 01:00:125 (200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208) - , also, i like the ddddd pattern, is like a relax pattern for finish this section
01:16:367 (7,8,9,10,11) - Weird those kdkdkd for me. 01:16:750 (11) - turn this don, tons better imo. Then the next kdkdk is fine. Also, in stream next, I would emphatize kkddk pattern which you used most, so I'd just 01:18:756 (25) - turn this kat, 01:19:902 (37) - turn this don. (Mostly because this drums and guitar are similar to Dragonforce's, and the rhythm just fits). these kdkdk should be kd dk but kdkdk follows vocals and instrumental good so kdkdk sounds very good for me and not WEIRD, about the stream, i want to keep it ''easy'' there.
01:26:113 (82) - Stream starting from here was kinda disappointing for me. I mean.. I dislike this pattern in overall, but that's me. I noticed pretty much nice vocal rhythm you can follow here with a pretty constant pattern which won't cause problems to alt players.
changed to kddkddkdddkdkdk, i like the kddkddk patterns, fits good with vocals
01:32:801 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - Somehow I don't like it, it goes good with second (dddk) 1/6, but I can't find a replacement which won't hurt it EXCEPT the 1/6 monostream with ending kat (but that would be brutal, it goes about 15 notes, somebody other will check it). if mooooore people suggest to delete 1/6 i'll do, i like the pattern and it sounds good for me, i don't wanna add a dddddddk 1/6 there
01:42:164 (68,69) - Suddenly some big finishers. Well, why? Especially when you have some pretty close after those two. 01:42:546 (69) - Delete this one, 01:42:355 starting from here (and counting next four 1/4 ticks), do kdkdd or kdddk. Preferrably kdkdd. is like a ''rest'' moment, and they emphatize good
01:53:629 (155) - Same as above, keep it, 01:54:011 (156) - delete, 01:53:820 - starting from here (and counting next four 1/4 ticvks) do kdkdd or kdddk. To fit rhythm. hmm same
From here: 01:58:406 to 02:02:036 you could think of doing the same guitar trick as before mentioned. It's pretty empty, as it's half of map AND next part is without almost any sounds, so it's like double break time for 6* map. :/ i can't have a break? if i did not mapped that guitar part before why i should map it now? that break it's fine after that kiai
02:03:374 (197) - Finisher? weird having a finisher there
02:07:387 (208) - Finisher? okay, good for start a new section
02:08:151 (211) - Finisher? i don't agree with that
02:09:488 (218) - And finisher? xD same ^
02:09:871 - From here (and next two 1/4 ticks) do "dkk" to fit rhythm uhm? there is no sound, its just the vocal and sounds weird having that dkk before the stream
02:14:170 (262) - Turn to don for rhythm i prefer ''easier'' since it's not the kiai
02:18:087 (285) - Finisher? i don't see any reason there
02:19:616 (292) - Finisher?
02:21:144 (297) - Finisher?
02:24:202 (310) - Finisher?
02:27:259 (324) - This could also be Finish.same with these suggestions, it's a ''calm'' part, so.. no
02:22:482 (304) - Turn to kat? Feels better. i like dkd, no change for now
02:24:202 (310) - This could also be fini... nvm, it is. it isn't a finisher but same as before
02:29:743 (335,336,337,338,339) - It does not fit rhythm imo. Eleven 1/4 ticks from here (02:29:743) should be arranged into: d0k0kdd000D (where 0 is empty, d - don, k - kat, D - finisher on don, K - finisher on kat). that part it was ''hard'' to map, the actual pattern is the best i got (imo), if someone suggests a better thing i'll change
02:34:329 (6,7,8,9,10) - Not really liking it. 02:34:329 (6) - delete, 02:34:520 (7) - make it don, 02:34:711 (9) - make it don, 02:34:807 - add kat. Suddenly it fits the rhythm and it's the pattern begininng of siimilar streams later.\:D/ your suggestion it's not bad, but i don't want to make 1/4 + finisher, i'll keep mine as i like too
02:56:304 (183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - Not sure why, but I have feeling people will miss on it often. xD i was thinking a lot about this, i was about change but i decided to wait for your mod, changed to kkdkkdkdkkdkk again
03:01:176 - Add don, don't let the rhythm stop there is no sound, i did that in the next part for increase a bit the diff and make a bit of variety
03:04:234 ^ ^
03:07:291 ^ ^
03:08:151 - Considering up, add don i prefer kd dk for avoid inconsistency

Then till the end I don't have any problems. .
Good luck!

Surono wrote:

you know why people mad if chat me.. and this about editor mode (mapping/modding) I hope ur n-

23:03 Hanjamon: dem surono
23:03 Surono: !1!!
23:03 Surono: dem
23:04 Hanjamon: kitchen gun
23:04 Hanjamon: xDDD
23:04 Hanjamon: i want to ask you, can you testplay a map?
23:04 Surono: y!
23:04 Surono: gib me
23:04 Hanjamon: xDD
23:05 Hanjamon: here
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23:05 Surono: wut hepun with SR??!??!
23:05 Surono: moe with harsh takos?!?!??! dem `L_`
23:06 Hanjamon: hahahaha
23:06 Hanjamon: it's broken
23:06 Hanjamon: xD well, it's not too hard
23:09 Surono: noice DLing and failed. dem intreeNUt
23:10 Hanjamon: bad internet there?
23:11 Surono: nope. it just me is dem
23:11 Surono: in here is fine, but surdem isnt fine :U rip me, Intrehnut h8 me `L-
23:12 Hanjamon: but well, i don't have internet, i'm just stealing neighbour internet (?
23:12 Surono: xd
23:17 Hanjamon: dem, stills bad internet?
23:18 Surono: fine... I use IE for DLing this, sry :U
23:18 Surono: fine speed, but bad transferr data.. rip
23:19 Hanjamon: rip
23:19 Hanjamon: don't you have another browser?
23:20 Surono: have, mozilla :U but failed DLing happen, so IE
23:21 Hanjamon: rip
23:21 Surono: xd lol
23:21 Hanjamon: you can get an app like flashget for download files, it's good
23:21 Surono: tek ur time sand pie, dont care me ;w; dem dont notice me.
23:21 Surono: wehh!??! I'll try that app :U hmm noice
23:22 Hanjamon: xDDDD
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23:23 *Surono is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/959168 u's - LOVELESS WORLD]
23:23 Hanjamon: xDDDDDD
23:23 Hanjamon: no problem
23:23 Surono: 5.96 sr, I hear that
23:23 Surono: i hear that doganforce drum :U
23:23 Surono: dem.. i mean metal genre
23:23 Hanjamon: yeah
23:23 Surono: dem moe :UUU nice sr. dem metal drum
23:30 Hanjamon: better i talk this xD well, maybe you play less now
23:31 Hanjamon: here*
23:31 Surono: :U but.. I see unnecessary emphasize on coloring pattern, okey
23:31 Surono: okey IRC?
23:31 Surono: so lazy and rip me with post forum
23:31 Hanjamon: oh
23:31 Hanjamon: gmm
23:31 Hanjamon: hmm*
23:31 Hanjamon: let's try, but i don't know if i need to go in a while xD
23:32 Surono: !!1!!., okey idk. I will post this
23:32 Hanjamon: okay xD
23:32 Surono: :U I just confuse with my bad english. okey..
23:32 Hanjamon: and thanks a lot Surono
23:32 Surono: `L-`
23:33 Hanjamon: dem
23:33 Hanjamon: sir
23:33 Surono: dem /close sign
23:34 Hanjamon: xD
23:59 Surono: nice, I click other link on osh website
23:59 Surono: so mod is gone. gluck with your map.
23:59 Hanjamon:
00:00 Hanjamon: no problem Surono
00:00 Hanjamon: and thanks
00:00 Surono: :/ so is my bad fate lol, maybe another next time.
00:01 Surono: maybe is karma I spam minor things :U yeah.. lol sry.
00:01 Hanjamon: lol xD
00:03 Surono: okey I mad :U okey irc. blah
00:04 Surono: 00:13:023 - idc this slider or spiner. dem `L_`
00:04 Hanjamon: wait xD
00:04 Surono: 00:43:883 - change color bruh.. dem is differ sound with 2 left finisher.
00:05 Surono: 00:51:622 - and 00:55:062 - wanna kat?? :U
00:05 Hanjamon: i prefer slider instead of spinner
00:05 Surono: 00:58:597 (194,195) - swap color? 194 just kick, 195 is cymbal with snare. so swap >:U
00:06 Hanjamon: 00:43:883 (104) - changed to d, didn't noticed lol
00:06 Surono: yeah i know. I just idontcare that :U thats same. lol slider wuz `L-`
00:06 Hanjamon: 00:54:680 - about this i prefer kdddkdddkdddk, so no change
00:06 Surono: 01:01:367 - this ghost note. no have drum. 01:01:463 - and this dddk 1/6
00:07 Surono: yeah kdddkdddk repeating. I just think is nice to emphasize that faded violin. lol forget
00:07 Hanjamon: 00:58:597 (194,195) - ddk D is better
00:08 Surono: okey. that instrument..
00:08 Surono: 01:09:775 (261,263) - swap? I just feel this weird emphasize..
00:08 Hanjamon: oh
00:08 Hanjamon: that 1/6
00:08 Surono: yeah lol :U
00:09 Hanjamon: changed to dddk 1/6 lol but
00:09 Hanjamon: kk(dddk) like this, i know that k it's a ghost note but fits with the melody
00:09 Surono: but keep to not delete?
00:09 Surono: :U nice ikr ikr.
00:10 Hanjamon: 01:50:189 (261,263) - dkk it's good, it's a bit similar to ddk and want to keep consistency
00:10 Hanjamon: 01:09:775 - *
00:10 Surono: 01:12:737 - swap? kdk?
00:10 Surono: 01:20:094 - kat? thats flow imo... good
00:11 Hanjamon: no change, want to keep consistency
00:11 Hanjamon: hmm
00:11 Surono: 01:21:336 - delete?
00:11 Hanjamon: maybe it sounds good that stream suggestion
00:11 Hanjamon: but
00:11 Hanjamon: i want to keep ''easy''
00:11 Hanjamon: at least that part
00:11 Surono: that easy.. consistent alternating.
00:12 Surono: not like kddkddk things. with differ turnover kat. :U
00:12 Hanjamon: yeah but it will be too suddendly
00:12 Surono: xd
00:12 Hanjamon: 01:21:336 - not accepted, i want to keep that
00:12 Surono: 01:26:781 - kat? for contrast 01:26:877 - here?
00:13 Surono: 01:30:221 - kat?
00:13 Surono: 01:33:087 - weh this I want to say mainly.. why not change to don?
00:13 Hanjamon: kddkddkdddkdk it's good, i like that pattern
00:13 Hanjamon: so no change
00:14 Hanjamon: 01:30:221 - drums
00:14 Surono: :U please.. i not tel about kddkddk
00:14 Hanjamon: 01:33:087 - not d because it flows better
00:14 Surono: yeah yeah keep. I say with that change for ddkkdkkkddk. bcus it consistent alternating with right finger. not like kddkddk.
00:14 Surono: after hit dddk(d)dddk
00:15 Surono: (d)dddk is easy yeah? and 01:33:469 - wanna don? I think better to give emphasize kat just 01:33:565 - this
00:16 Surono: 01:50:380 (262,263) - swap color? 01:50:571 (263,264) - same vocal
00:16 Hanjamon: 01:33:469 - i'll think about it
00:17 Surono: 01:51:240 (266,271) - don for 266 and kat 271?
00:17 Surono: kkkkdddd feels.. forced imo ._.
00:17 Hanjamon: 03:08:915 (263,264) - i prefer to finish with D
00:18 Surono: link..
00:18 Hanjamon: it's not forced
00:18 Hanjamon: 01:50:476 - this part i mean, i prefer to finish with D
00:18 Surono: 02:05:094 - this... delete..
00:19 Surono: on 00:14:839 - , but this not stronk like that
00:19 Hanjamon: but decided 01:51:144 (266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274) - to change
00:20 Hanjamon: so now will be kkkkddkkd
00:20 Surono: 02:16:558 - kat for this cymbal and emphasize vocal?
00:21 Hanjamon: 02:05:094 - i'll think about it
00:21 Hanjamon: 02:16:558 - more priority to drum there, so i'll keep
00:22 Surono: from 4th kiai until 03:41:973 - here, try to make 4plet pattern? I think boring with current 2plet pattern, theres have guitar nice to follow imo
00:23 Surono: 03:43:979 (21,22) - swap and 03:44:743 (31,32) - these? I think is nonsense to emphasized imo
00:23 Hanjamon: 02:52:960 (159) - okay, i'll add 4plet in things like this
00:23 Hanjamon: 03:26:781 -
00:24 Surono: 04:13:692 - don this?
00:24 Surono: maybe just it. wait 03:23:055 - i hitd this when u askd me to test...
00:24 Hanjamon: 03:42:068 - here i'll keep better without 4plet
00:25 Surono: I confuse if u make sv on there... I just guess that 1/4.. but well... dem fingers is 1/6
00:25 Hanjamon: 04:13:692 - kkkkd fits better for me
00:25 Surono: oke.
00:25 Surono: 03:42:068 - yeah lol dont add note at here x
00:26 Surono: 03:23:055 - maybe sv on here and 03:24:011 - back normal to here imo.. please is kill my eyes xd
00:26 Surono: with increasing every notes with green lines..
00:27 Hanjamon: but i think is good
00:28 Surono: lol xd
00:29 Surono: okey... just this, :U dont take seriously my word.. but I think I mostly make people to mad/angry, and sorry for nazi things (-/\- )
00:29 Hanjamon: no problem
00:29 Hanjamon: thanks to you for the mod :3
00:29 Hanjamon: some things were good
00:29 Hanjamon: you can post
00:30 Surono: :^U yeah.. you not mad? well I never mad.. but I think I will laugh if people seriously problem with me
00:30 Hanjamon: nah
00:30 Surono: okay I posting this dem mod :U minor things is dem. btw dddk(k)dddk, you agree to (d)dddk?
00:30 Hanjamon: i'm fine xD
00:30 Surono: demm u handjamoon :U okey /savelog

really nothing. dont take seriously.. ppl... dem..

mintong89 wrote:

Hello from my queue.

[LOVELESS ONI]

00:13:023 (1) - How about extend the slider length to 00:14:074 - here? The sound didn't stop here. done
00:19:425 (9,10,11) - kkd? To follow the pitch of the vocal. done
00:21:909 (17) - k here, the pitch is higher than previous note. done
00:24:202 (25) - k, the pitch is same as previous note. done
00:36:909 - => 00:37:195 - I'd prefer to add all 1/4 note at this part too not only because the drum 1/4 sound isn't stop but I think it makes more fun too. done, i'll do this to kiai and other similar patterns
00:59:552 (199) - How about change this note to big k to make it symmetry to 00:58:788 (195) - this note? not a bad idea, done
01:17:227 (14) - I think you should delete this note to make a break because the 1/2 part stream is too long. i'll think about it, i think it's not too hard and due to this bpm the players will not get too tired
01:32:036 (123) - k here to follow 2-4 clap? i like better ddkkddd, no change here for now
01:33:469 (134) - ^ before it was (ddd)kk(ddd)kkk, but changed to (ddd)kk(ddd)kdk, it plays better imo
02:16:558 (405) - k to follow pitch. done here
02:18:087 (409) - ^ uhm, done, fits good with vocals
02:25:730 (443) - ^ done
02:33:660 (2,3,4,5) - The rhythm sounds weird here in my opinion, so how about 02:33:947 - add a note at here? added a k
02:40:730 (63,64) - Swap these to follow 2-4 clap? will break a bit the consistency with the first kiai and and sounds better for me kdkkddkkd
03:52:100 (3,4) - Swap these for vocal pitch. changed 03:51:718 (2) - to k instead

Although I found that last part is overmapped, but I think I know what you're thinking. So I just wanna mention it. I think it's not too overmapped, i can hear a lot of stream drums xD

Generally it's not a bad map.
Good luck!

Nofool wrote:

hey'

no much to say about SV or long streams, i think theyr pretty good
smart re-use of same structures so yeah..

[LOVELESS ONI]
* - 00:13:119 - slider should probably start here, i know there is a weak sound where you started it but the main one is here, also it feels awkward to start on an odd line. i think it's fine >< if more people suggest this i'll change
* - 00:15:030 -/- 00:16:558 - i suggest you to add notes like k at those spots, you are following the vocal for that intro but here you are ignoring so much while at - 00:17:323 - you suddenly follow every vocal sound. Feels kinda weird. done
* - 00:38:724 - to - 00:39:680 - what about a spinner instead ? to properly cover the vocal. it will be a bit weird for me as the long vocal finish at 00:41:590 -
* - 00:58:788 (196) -/- 00:59:552 (200) - sounds too overdone imo, they hardly deserve finishers, also that specific part plays kinda weird. Soo that might looks like being too much at first but what about something like this for - 00:58:023 - to - 01:00:125 - :

there isn't any big notes, but it plays pretty good for that part imo, please try it. i tried, and not sounds bad at all, but i want to follow the melody there, i like mine better ><
* - 01:09:775 (265) - move to - 01:09:584 - as d or k ? fits much more the vocal imo; dkk here plays kinda awkward as it doesn't particularily fit either drums sound or the vocal. - 01:12:832 (286) - same here. i want to keep consistency with 01:03:183 (221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243,244,245,246) -
* - 01:49:138 (250,251) -/- 01:49:520 (254,255) - maybe swap colors, kinda same structure but then you dont have 3 ddk in a row for - 01:48:278 (243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251) - lol. i know there are 3 ddk in a row but they fit good imo, keep for now ><
* - 02:13:501 (380) - hu why not using kddkddkdkddkddk here like you did for similar part before ? oh my, didn't noticed that xD but as kddkddkdkddkdd will be a bit tricky i'll change to kddkddkdkkdkkdk
* - 03:16:941 (319,320,321,322,323) - you got some interesting 1/3 spot here from the little melody in the background. d k d (1/3) then ddk (1/4) seems to fit best, and i think so it plays pretty cool and add some more challenge, think about it ? nice idea, applied but i made the 1/3 d k k, so the 1/4 ddk is easier to hit
* - 03:21:527 (350,351,352,1,2) - sounds more like d kd dk D here, following what you've done for most of this part. did dk kd k D instead
* - 03:35:571 (92,93) - i would remove those 2 and possibly add k at - 03:35:858 - to represent more that guitar melody. removed and added a kkD 1/3 in 03:35:794 -
* - 04:54:297 (379) -/- 04:55:826 (395) -/- 04:57:355 (411) - what about k at those spots ? sounds ok i think. sounds good, but i want to keep this last part less tricky, sorry
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good luck'

• [General]

1. Artist: μ's
2. Romanised Artist: u's
3. Source: ラブライブ! School idol project (omit the space between "ラブライブ" and "!")
4. Tags: change "Takao" to "Takaou"; capitalize "love live!"
5. Concerning the timing points, the SV increases are rather high for the kiais. Why not use 0.8x or 0.9x for calmer parts (1.0x for verses) and 1.1x for the kiais ? And 1.15x would be enough for the last ones.
6. How about lowering the hitsound volume by about 30% in calmer parts as well ? Currently it is too loud imo.

• [LOVELESS ONI]

1. 00:13:023 (1) - consider deleting this slider or replacing it with a spinner ? It does not represent the music well.
2. 00:29:934 (52,53,54,55,56,57) - maybe try ddK kdD instead ? This could follow the high-pitched vocal at 00:30:316 - in a way better.
3. 00:37:195 (93) - D would be better as the vocal pitch becomes lower compared to 00:37:004 (92) -
4. 00:59:552 (202) - it would sound more natural to delete this note as there is no instrumental support.
5. 01:08:724 (259,260,261,262,263) - you may use kdkkd to match the electric guitar there.
6. 01:19:234 (30,31,32) - changing these notes to kkd would accompany the high-pitched vocal nicely.
7. 01:20:094 (39) - I would recommend deleting this note to shorten the 1/4 pattern a bit. Currently it is too long for the song pace.
8. 01:20:953 (46,48) - remove finish ? They are a bit overemphasized imo.
9. 01:32:801 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - the 1/4-1/6 complex here is really questionable to me since it lacks support from the music. It should be simplified like this to reflect the song accordingly: (cursor at 01:33:183 - )
10. 01:35:285 (148) and 01:47:514 (237) - same as 01:20:953 (46,48) -
11. 01:56:686 (309) - D would fit the pitch drop of the vocal well.
12. 02:22:578 (430,431) - swapping these notes to dk would sound better as the vocal pitch at 02:22:673 - is higher.
13. 02:29:074 (458,459) - similar to ^ , D K would be better. Upon the change, the pattern would be consistent with what you did at 01:27:928 (98,99) - too.
14. 02:36:431 (25) and 02:48:660 (121) - same as 01:35:285 (148) -
15. 02:50:953 (142,143,144,145,146,147,148) - maybe try kdkkddk here ? This could give a better feedback for the vocal.
16. 02:57:832 (199) - same as 01:56:686 (309) -
17. 03:05:476 (243) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
18. 03:16:941 (319,320,321,322,323,324) - d kkddk (1/2+1/4) would be much better as there exist no 1/3 beats in the music.
19. 03:23:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - similar to 01:32:801 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - , you should reconsider the use of 1/6 notes here. This pattern could simply be replaced by three 1/1 notes according to the music.
20. 03:42:164 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this stream should be purely 1/4. No 1/6 beats are observed in the music.
21. 03:57:832 (21,22,23) - maybe d k k to follow the vocal there ?
22. 04:11:208 (2) - same as 01:56:686 (309) -
23. 04:43:310 (302) - ^
24. 05:04:998 (1) - this spinner should start at 05:05:094 - to avoid being covered by 05:04:902 (7) - substantially.

DakeDekaane wrote:

I never expected Gezo to be into LL!

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here is the M4M as requested.

• [General]

1. Artist: μ's
2. Romanised Artist: u's
3. Source: ラブライブ! School idol project (omit the space between "ラブライブ" and "!")
4. Tags: change "Takao" to "Takaou"; capitalize "love live!"
5. Concerning the timing points, the SV increases are rather high for the kiais. Why not use 0.8x or 0.9x for calmer parts (1.0x for verses) and 1.1x for the kiais ? And 1.15x would be enough for the last ones.
6. How about lowering the hitsound volume by about 30% in calmer parts as well ? Currently it is too loud imo. i fixed all, i hope is better now ><

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1. 00:13:023 (1) - consider deleting this slider or replacing it with a spinner ? It does not represent the music well. done
2. 00:29:934 (52,53,54,55,56,57) - maybe try ddK kdD instead ? This could follow the high-pitched vocal at 00:30:316 - in a way better. sounds better, done
3. 00:37:195 (93) - D would be better as the vocal pitch becomes lower compared to 00:37:004 (92) - true, also it's easier to hit the big note due to k D
4. 00:59:552 (202) - it would sound more natural to delete this note as there is no instrumental support. done
5. 01:08:724 (259,260,261,262,263) - you may use kdkkd to match the electric guitar there. sounds good, applied
6. 01:19:234 (30,31,32) - changing these notes to kkd would accompany the high-pitched vocal nicely. done
7. 01:20:094 (39) - I would recommend deleting this note to shorten the 1/4 pattern a bit. Currently it is too long for the song pace. true, but deleted 01:19:902 - instead
8. 01:20:953 (46,48) - remove finish ? They are a bit overemphasized imo. done
9. 01:32:801 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - the 1/4-1/6 complex here is really questionable to me since it lacks support from the music. It should be simplified like this to reflect the song accordingly: (cursor at 01:33:183 - ) hmm, did but i keep the first 1/6, it will be something like (dddk) k, sounds good for me
10. 01:35:285 (148) and 01:47:514 (237) - same as 01:20:953 (46,48) - here i think it fits really good with vocal, i'll keep for now ><
11. 01:56:686 (309) - D would fit the pitch drop of the vocal well. done
12. 02:22:578 (430,431) - swapping these notes to dk would sound better as the vocal pitch at 02:22:673 - is higher. true, done
13. 02:29:074 (458,459) - similar to ^ , D K would be better. Upon the change, the pattern would be consistent with what you did at 01:27:928 (98,99) - too. ups, done
14. 02:36:431 (25) and 02:48:660 (121) - same as 01:35:285 (148) - same as before, i think sounds good
15. 02:50:953 (142,143,144,145,146,147,148) - maybe try kdkkddk here ? This could give a better feedback for the vocal. i still like ddkdkkkdddkdkkk no change here for now
16. 02:57:832 (199) - same as 01:56:686 (309) - done
17. 03:05:476 (243) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? ups ;w; done
18. 03:16:941 (319,320,321,322,323,324) - d kkddk (1/2+1/4) would be much better as there exist no 1/3 beats in the music. before it was kkddk but nofool suggested this so i wanted to try, but anyway, changed again to kkddk
19. 03:23:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - similar to 01:32:801 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - , you should reconsider the use of 1/6 notes here. This pattern could simply be replaced by three 1/1 notes according to the music. i was thinking a lot about this, because will be nearly impossible to dt this (yu for example missed only there), changed to 1/4 kkkkkkk
20. 03:42:164 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this stream should be purely 1/4. No 1/6 beats are observed in the music. i know this will be the only hard pattern in the whole map, and i know it's overmapped, but fits really good (imo) with the guitar, if more people suggest to remove i'll do, but for now i think it's good ><
21. 03:57:832 (21,22,23) - maybe d k k to follow the vocal there ? done
22. 04:11:208 (2) - same as 01:56:686 (309) - done
23. 04:43:310 (302) - ^ done
24. 05:04:998 (1) - this spinner should start at 05:05:094 - to avoid being covered by 05:04:902 (7) - substantially. done

Try to find a few more mods to further improve the map, then you may call me back~

Raiden wrote:

LoveLive sucks but this shit is metal so I'm modding it.

pues... lo único que te puedo sugerir es que vayas reduciendo gradualmente el volumen del spinner en 05:05:094 -
el map mola bastante en sí xD

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1. 03:35:794 (86,87,88) - these notes should be 1/4 kkd starting at 03:35:858 - . Both guitar and drums are snapped in 1/4.

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

A quick recheck here. (no kd)

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1. 03:35:794 (86,87,88) - these notes should be 1/4 kkd starting at 03:35:858 - . Both guitar and drums are snapped in 1/4. oh, still sounds good and it plays better, fixed!

Okorin wrote:

This map is 4:59:459 draintime from first to last object unless my math is completely off

may want to map some of the weird stuff in the beginning before moving forward

Okorin wrote:

This map is 4:59:459 draintime from first to last object

• 
  In all of the lyrics “LOVELESS WORLD””...
  small SV changes and getting lower and lower
  ,,,, But Instrumental makes climax.. orz need to fix.
  
  Screen shot 800x600

  

• 
  00:38:342 - > 00:38:724 - > already mentioned on the Introduction, I think it's better to keep the SV changes. remove all greens?

1. 00:44:648 - and next too, remove the green?
   00:50:189 - add increasing SV per 0.01(it means x1.07 on 00:50:762 - ) . its not consistent with 03:23:055 - ,04:12:737 - stratgy.
   
   00:56:590 - consider to change from per 0.02(10>08>...00) to per 0.01(10>09>...>05) and and add x1.00 on 01:03:183 - ? It's early SV fixing.
   
   01:57:832 - move to 01:57:450 - and change x1.00 and 01:58:215 - same, consider to change x1.00.
   02:58:979 - , 02:59:361 - same.
   04:44:839 - same.
2. 03:23:820 - x1.10 and increasing SV per 0.01 instead?
3. 04:12:737 - add increasing SV from here plz…

1. 00:00:603 - spinner end should move to 00:10:587 - there?
   ...uum… 05:05:094 - remove spin...?
   
2. 00:30:890 - move to 00:31:654 - and change k instead? to follow the based on the pattern with hihat.
3. 00:34:902 - no finish..?
4. 04:08:915 - ^
   01:01:367(1,2) - consider remove them It’s still 1/3 rhythm. (01:01:399 - still hit on percussion but its better to ignore for emphasized to little sphash on 01:01:272 - ).
   
   • if you applied ↑, how about add ¼ triple don? bass drum sounds, it makes to avoid the airy blank with plays on backsounds.
5. 01:01:941 - remove the finish..?
   how about these _?
   
   1. 01:18:183 - change k? the gap with before kdkdk , vocal sounds stronger :3
   2. 01:22:578 - d? , make a new consistent with before kdkdk.
   | 01:27:357 - k plays better imo,theres no reason in the other ww
   
6. 02:02:705 - k and 02:03:374 - k or 02:03:087 (317,318,319) - ddk ? (02:02:801 (316,317,318,319) - back bass guitar sounded being lower pitch like kdkd, before put on k can cover a little imo.
7. 02:03:756 (321,322,323) - ddk? from 02:03:947 - to 02:04:329 - , seems the better k-d. It sounds clear the high tone percussion than bass.
   
8. 02:13:215 (370,371) - kd? its not same wave of the sounds with 02:11:590 (353,354,355,356,357) - guitar tone.
9. 04:50:667 (351,352) - , 04:56:781 (404,405) - same?
   
10. 02:20:762 (414,415) - kd? look at the long pattern from 02:16:558 - only 1/2s , it sounds really clean current.
11. 02:22:291 - k too?
12. 02:26:113 - how about move to 02:24:584 -? or add 0224584 and 0226113 omve to 02:26:017 - ? to make a consistent with pattern seems not bad, but its better variation too about the pure (vocal ) or not.
13. 02:31:845 - no finish?
    
14. 02:32:801 (476,477) - kd?
15. 02:33:374 - lower sounds pressure there , consider making more blank and clear coloring to emphasize for that?
    e.g. remove on 02:33:756 - , 02:34:138 - change k? 02:34:329 - (1,2,3)change k-k-d?
    
16. 03:15:699 - d, 03:16:463 - k , 03:16:081 - move to 03:16:845 - instead?
17. how about 03:27:259 - add d ,03:33:374 - add d? Its less followed imo to guitar solo part.
18. 03:35:094 - change d and 03:35:285 (86,87) - change finisher K? it fits on clash and accent sound imo.
    
    03:48:278 - ~~~ the gap between to Intro ..
    
    1. 03:48:660 - , 03:50:189 - , 03:50:953 - should remove.
    2. If you feel uneasy (inconsistency the color with 00:14:266 (1,2,3,4) - ), self change the coloring lol.
    | 03:58:023 - d plays better imo,theres no reason in the other ww

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Hello, Requested to check the map via PM.
[Introduction]

• 
  In all of the lyrics “LOVELESS WORLD””...
  small SV changes and getting lower and lower
  ,,,, But Instrumental makes climax.. orz need to fix.
  
  Screen shot 800x600

  

Symbol meaning

　

1. >> Normal suggestion.
   Big text >> Strong suggestion.
   >> Questionable imo.
   >>> Needs to improve some. (Rhythm is not good , plays or sounds weird)
   No comment >>simple (you can notice easily: just hits on drums or simple beats) , or already explained on the other place.

[Timing]

• 
  00:38:342 - > 00:38:724 - > already mentioned on the Introduction, I think it's better to keep the SV changes. remove all greens?

1. 00:44:648 - and next too, remove the green?
   00:50:189 - add increasing SV per 0.01(it means x1.07 on 00:50:762 - ) . its not consistent with 03:23:055 - ,04:12:737 - stratgy.
   
   00:56:590 - consider to change from per 0.02(10>08>...00) to per 0.01(10>09>...>05) and and add x1.00 on 01:03:183 - ? It's early SV fixing.
   
   01:57:832 - move to 01:57:450 - and change x1.00 and 01:58:215 - same, consider to change x1.00.
   02:58:979 - , 02:59:361 - same.
   04:44:839 - same.
2. 03:23:820 - x1.10 and increasing SV per 0.01 instead?
3. 04:12:737 - add increasing SV from here plz…
   
   all sv suggestions applied except 03:23:820 - , the reason i want to keep this is because the 1/6 part is easier to read

[nico-nico-nii www]

1. 00:00:603 - spinner end should move to 00:10:587 - there? i would like the spinner there, i had drain time problems before ><
   ...uum… 05:05:094 - remove spin...? same ^
   
2. 00:30:890 - move to 00:31:654 - and change k instead? to follow the based on the pattern with hihat. added the k in 00:31:654 - as i want to these dkD ddK kdD
3. 00:34:902 - no finish..? ups, fixed
4. 04:08:915 - ^ ^
   01:01:367(1,2) - consider remove them It’s still 1/3 rhythm. (01:01:399 - still hit on percussion but its better to ignore for emphasized to little sphash on 01:01:272 - ). deleted 01:01:367 - but i think i'll keep the 1/6 of 01:01:463 - as imo it fits good ><
   
   • if you applied ↑, how about add ¼ triple don? bass drum sounds, it makes to avoid the airy blank with plays on backsounds. for now i'll keep the 1/6
5. 01:01:941 - remove the finish..? done
   how about these _?
   
   1. 01:18:183 - change k? the gap with before kdkdk , vocal sounds stronger :3 done, sounds good
   2. 01:22:578 - d? , make a new consistent with before kdkdk. done
   | 01:27:357 - k plays better imo,theres no reason in the other ww oh nice, done
   
6. 02:02:705 - k and 02:03:374 - k or 02:03:087 (317,318,319) - ddk ? (02:02:801 (316,317,318,319) - back bass guitar sounded being lower pitch like kdkd, before put on k can cover a little imo. i know what do you mean, but i think these notes d d d sounds better
7. 02:03:756 (321,322,323) - ddk? from 02:03:947 - to 02:04:329 - , seems the better k-d. It sounds clear the high tone percussion than bass. not bad idea, applied i also added a kkk in 02:09:871 -
   
8. 02:13:215 (370,371) - kd? its not same wave of the sounds with 02:11:590 (353,354,355,356,357) - guitar tone. i know but i think the pattern it plays better keeping the kdkdk consistent ;w;
9. 04:50:667 (351,352) - , 04:56:781 (404,405) - same? same as ^, also, i really like the actual pattern ><
   
10. 02:20:762 (414,415) - kd? look at the long pattern from 02:16:558 - only 1/2s , it sounds really clean current. done
11. 02:22:291 - k too? i think i'll keep as ddd ddk as i think it fits better with vocals
12. 02:26:113 - how about move to 02:24:584 -? or add 0224584 and 0226113 omve to 02:26:017 - ? to make a consistent with pattern seems not bad, but its better variation too about the pure (vocal ) or not. moved 02:26:113 - to 02:26:017 - , nice idea, but i want to keep 02:24:584 - without note for consistency
13. 02:31:845 - no finish? done
    
14. 02:32:801 (476,477) - kd? nice, done
15. 02:33:374 - lower sounds pressure there , consider making more blank and clear coloring to emphasize for that?
    e.g. remove on 02:33:756 - , 02:34:138 - change k? 02:34:329 - (1,2,3)change k-k-d? applied the example except removing 02:33:756 -
    
16. 03:15:699 - d, 03:16:463 - k , 03:16:081 - move to 03:16:845 - instead? i like both patterns and i know what do you mean, but moving to 03:16:845 - will cause a bit of inconsistency with the order of the other patterns, no change for now ><
17. how about 03:27:259 - add d ,03:33:374 - add d? Its less followed imo to guitar solo part. nice idea, added
18. 03:35:094 - change d and 03:35:285 (86,87) - change finisher K? it fits on clash and accent sound imo. omg, sounds good
    
    03:48:278 - ~~~ the gap between to Intro ..
    
    1. 03:48:660 - , 03:50:189 - , 03:50:953 - should remove. removed all except 03:48:660 - as there is a sound
    2. If you feel uneasy (inconsistency the color with 00:14:266 (1,2,3,4) - ), self change the coloring lol. changed to be more consistent
    | 03:58:023 - d plays better imo,theres no reason in the other ww applied

That's all for now...? uum.... good night ww(¦3[___]

Nwolf wrote:

hi, I have a few concerns~

00:00:508 (1) - I know this was a last minute addition and it's kinda evil to point this out, out of all things, however currently I (and someone who I discussed this with) feel that it could have worked nicer since at the moment, it's very loud compared to the few sounds this spinner is mapped to. My suggestion would be to silence this spinner (5/10%) and possibly even to restart the spinner 00:05:093 - here with a slightly higher volume (20-30%) - maybe even having the volume working similar to 05:05:093 - but going up instead of down. Restarting the spinner would also fit to the last spinner. i understand what do you mean, i was thinking about that a lot, but i think keeping as a normal volume there it's better, also, before i wasn't able to change the volume because the red line was in 00:14:265 - , if happens a dq (hope not lol) probably i'll change

01:01:017 (213,214,215,216,217,218,219) - Maybe you did this for playability, but this could follow the song slightly more accurate, mainly 01:01:081 - 01:01:463 - these two spots. not a bad idea, it's nice, but yes, i would like to keep this as kddkddkddk for playability

01:32:800 (124,125,126,127) - Why 1/6? The thing below I can understand more than this one, where I can't find a reason... as i said to other bn, it's ddk but 1/6 dddk fits really nice there imo, it's overmapping, yes, but nobody complains about that, as i said, sounds fine for me

03:43:692 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36) - I'm pretty sure you put thought into this, but please please please reconsider the usage of 1/6 here. I know ddkkddkk is not a solution, so is repeating the same pattern, but I also don't think using 1/6 is. One suggestion would be 1/4 ddkdkkdk, which is a minor pattern change. If you keep 1/6, give a reason why. Except if it's the one I mentioned, then I successfully argumented against myself. i used 1/6 because the guitar it feels hmm.. like more intense? as i said to some people, i know it's the hardest part (imo) of the map, but fits really nice, i wouldn't overmap if sounds weird but in this case it sounds nice in my opinion, i want to keep the pattern, not for the pp, because if i wanted pp i would put something like (kddk)d(kddk)d(kddk) etc, but nope, in this case i used (dddk)k(dddk)k(dddk)k because it feels nice with guitars, i hope you understand.


also other stuff that I wouldn't request a DQ for tho:

01:26:781 (88) - Could be a kat so the vocals 01:26:877 (89) - here are emphasized a little bit better without making it a kat. both patterns sounds nice for me, not bad idea your pattern but i prefer mine ><

03:34:711 (81,82,83,84,85) - Either 03:34:807 (82) - or 03:35:093 (85) - should be turned into a kat, as this sounds very similar to the other kkddk patterns here. 82 being kat would make the bass on 83 more noticeable, kat on 85 follows snare wanted to use kdddd there because more simple and the dddd fits nice with the guitar imo, also, i think before it was kkddk but if i don't bad remember Judy suggested me this and imo sounds better as kdddd.

03:57:068 (17) - Would make sense to me if this was a big note instead of 03:56:304 (15) - as there's loud guitar here similar to all 2/1 notes before. 03:57:068 - not decided to put big note there due to d ddk it plays better than D ddk, it's like a rest calm so.. xD


(As a side note before anyone throws this at me, I sightread fc'd this thanks bye. Apparently that's a counter-argument people love to use??)


Final note: Generally I enjoy this map a lot, it follows a clear rhythm and plays very nicely, kudos for that! glad to hear that :3

_Gezo_ wrote:

Well someone is going to be called a ripoff for diff name and that someone is me ayy

Hanjamon wrote:

Nwolf wrote:

00:00:508 (1) - I know this was a last minute addition and it's kinda evil to point this out, out of all things, however currently I (and someone who I discussed this with) feel that it could have worked nicer since at the moment, it's very loud compared to the few sounds this spinner is mapped to. My suggestion would be to silence this spinner (5/10%) and possibly even to restart the spinner 00:05:093 - here with a slightly higher volume (20-30%) - maybe even having the volume working similar to 05:05:093 - but going up instead of down. Restarting the spinner would also fit to the last spinner. i understand what do you mean, i was thinking about that a lot, but i think keeping as a normal volume there it's better, also, before i wasn't able to change the volume because the red line was in 00:14:265 - , if happens a dq (hope not lol) probably i'll change