15:06 J1NX1337: ey, I could take a look at your map now
15:06 TheBlaiZe: o/
15:06 TheBlaiZe: Thanks m8
15:10 J1NX1337: 01:10:817 (9,2) - the stack's off
15:10 J1NX1337: if it's meant to be one
15:10 J1NX1337: with the slider end
15:11 TheBlaiZe: oh right
15:11 TheBlaiZe: I might have missed things like this, was kinda tired by the time I was done
15:12 J1NX1337: right
15:12 J1NX1337: would be nice if these were a jump 01:14:817 (7,1) -
15:12 J1NX1337: because the vocals are different, a jump would emphasize the change well
15:13 J1NX1337: 01:16:317 (1,2,3,4) - would personally add more spacing for these
15:13 J1NX1337: since they're merely beat-separated
15:14 J1NX1337: maybe something like
http://puu.sh/oSDyD/d75319be0e.jpg15:15 J1NX1337: would also add more spacing for 01:17:650 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - since the previous section used more spacing as well
15:16 J1NX1337: for each section of the song it's usually a good idea to use an appropriate amount of spacing and so that they're not too inconsistent
15:17 J1NX1337: this means the most intense sections of the song, namely kiai sections, should be easy to tell apart in their intensity through spacing compared to calmer sections
15:18 TheBlaiZe: Yeah, the reason why I space the latter half of kiai sections was because by that time the initial rush would wear off
15:19 TheBlaiZe: and it picks up again in the second half of the last kiai
15:19 TheBlaiZe: since at the halfway point there's a calmer part
15:21 J1NX1337: sure, though it should still be done in moderation
15:21 J1NX1337: if there's a non-kiai section that's a lot more intense than that latter half, it doesn't really make sense
15:26 J1NX1337: 01:21:483 (6,1) - spacing between these seems pretty high compared to everything else
15:26 J1NX1337: also not sure why you have a silenced circle here 01:21:817 (2) -
15:26 J1NX1337: all hitsounds that are clickable (slider starts and circles) should be audible
15:26 TheBlaiZe: oh
15:27 TheBlaiZe: that must be a leftover
15:27 TheBlaiZe: from previous versions
15:27 J1NX1337: yeah take care when remaking sections so you don't run into stuff like this lol
15:28 J1NX1337: 01:21:650 (1,2,3,4) - also the flow you use here isn't very optimal
15:31 J1NX1337: when you think about flow, you think about how the player is supposed to move their cursor to hit the objects. In this case, it goes back from (2) to (3) like an average back and forth flow pattern would, however, (3) leads the player back towards the center of (1,2) and after that goes down to (4), all in all the flow here is quite messy and not very intuitive, it's sort of not advancing as much as it should
15:35 TheBlaiZe: right
15:36 J1NX1337:
t/86329 here's this if you haven't read it before
15:41 TheBlaiZe: I feel like some of that is subjective and arbitrary, but who am I to argue xd
15:41 J1NX1337: yea it depends
15:42 J1NX1337: 01:23:817 (4,1) - these are also off if they're meant to stack
15:42 TheBlaiZe: oh lol
15:43 J1NX1337: 01:24:650 (2,3) - replacing these with a slider like 01:24:317 (1) - might work better for emphasis
15:43 J1NX1337: and then just increasing the spacing between all of 01:24:317 (1,2,3,4,5) -
15:43 J1NX1337: since I think it's too low
15:46 J1NX1337: 01:33:233 (4,1) - could add spacing between these
15:46 J1NX1337: since 01:33:233 (4) - is a kickslider, you don't need to click the sliderend, thus you can afford to make the next note a jump
15:46 J1NX1337: so for example
http://puu.sh/oSF0b/00fd22ff74.jpg would work fine too
15:47 TheBlaiZe: yeah, that's sorta what I changed it to
15:47 J1NX1337: 01:34:983 (1,4) - would move these higher personally
15:48 J1NX1337: encourages more movement
15:48 J1NX1337: tbh
15:48 J1NX1337: 01:33:650 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - switching places between the sliders and circles would work better
15:48 J1NX1337: because then you could map to those instruments that play on 01:33:650 - etc.
15:49 J1NX1337: which would be better emphasized with 4 clickable circles for 4 sounds rather than 2 clickable sliders
15:50 J1NX1337: meanwhile for the part at 01:34:983 - sliders would work better since they don't have those 4 sounds on the beats, only kicks and snares
15:50 J1NX1337: but that's just me
15:51 J1NX1337: 01:42:983 (1,2,3,4,5) - star pattern could look a bit smoother
15:52 TheBlaiZe: oh yeah, that 5 is retarded >.>
15:53 J1NX1337: again 01:44:817 (3,4) - would sound better on the beats rather than offbeats
15:53 J1NX1337: same for the rest of this part
15:54 J1NX1337: 01:58:650 (1) - kind of random NC
15:54 TheBlaiZe: whoops
15:55 J1NX1337: 02:17:983 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - the huge amount of overlapping here looks kinda bad, might wanna remake it
15:57 J1NX1337: 03:21:608 (5,6) - should be on the beats
15:58 TheBlaiZe: also a leftover lol
15:59 J1NX1337: 04:10:983 (2) - your NCs are still inconsistent here
16:00 J1NX1337: they should be on the 1/4 downbeats aka the big white ticks
16:00 TheBlaiZe: gotcha
16:00 J1NX1337: 03:46:984 (1,2,3,4) - spacing is too low
16:01 J1NX1337: generally with sliders, you can afford much larger spacing since you only have to click on every beat and none of the half beats
16:01 J1NX1337: 03:49:650 (5) - should also be an NC
16:01 J1NX1337: could also NC 04:20:317 (3) -
16:02 J1NX1337: 04:26:649 (1,2) - also inconsistent here
16:02 J1NX1337: 04:24:317 (4) - this too, with 01:33:567 (3,1) -
16:02 TheBlaiZe: fixed
16:03 TheBlaiZe: oh that one
16:03 TheBlaiZe: yeah
16:03 TheBlaiZe: the reason why I left that is because I thought it looked ugly otherwise
16:03 TheBlaiZe: but I'll change it
16:04 J1NX1337: rhythm consistency is more important
16:04 J1NX1337: 04:49:317 - seemingly unnecessary BPM change
16:05 TheBlaiZe: Yeah, that note is meant to be snapped to the new bpm there
16:05 TheBlaiZe: overlooked that part
16:06 J1NX1337: I think it's fine where it currently is?
16:06 J1NX1337: also it doesn't make sense to first decrease BPM to 132 and then increase it to 150
16:07 J1NX1337: and the "52BPM" in the end is also wrong, and the last reverse slider is therefore incorrectly snapped
16:07 J1NX1337: you can hear it's off if you slow it down to 25% speed
16:07 TheBlaiZe: Someone linked the bpm list on the forums, thought I would include that
16:07 TheBlaiZe: And I still have no clue what to do with the last slider
16:07 TheBlaiZe: it's a cunt
16:08 J1NX1337: well first you need to remove the 52BPM timing point since it makes it impossible to snap the slider correctly
16:08 TheBlaiZe: the last bpm might be incorrect though
16:09 TheBlaiZe: yeah
16:09 J1NX1337: obviously a drop from 140 to 52 bpm is far too much
16:10 TheBlaiZe: if I just remove the last bpm change and elongate the slider, it fits perfectly >.>
16:10 TheBlaiZe: Weird
16:12 J1NX1337: yeah
16:12 J1NX1337: low BPM = less beats to snap on
16:12 J1NX1337: not as dense
16:13 J1NX1337: remember to snap the spinner stoo
16:14 TheBlaiZe: I might have to do something to make last spinner more visible tho
16:14 TheBlaiZe: should I
16:14 TheBlaiZe: snap it right after
16:14 TheBlaiZe: the first one?
16:16 J1NX1337: more visible?
16:16 TheBlaiZe: People might stop playing after the first one lol I watched my friend play it yesterday and he only noticed it halway in
16:17 J1NX1337: personally I don't think it's a fitting place for a spinner
16:18 J1NX1337: but I guess you'll be needing it if you want 5 minutes of drain
16:18 TheBlaiZe: yeah, that's why I have it
16:19 TheBlaiZe: I mean, if other songs got away with it, might as well, right?
16:22 J1NX1337: or you could map the jingles here 00:00:317 -
16:23 TheBlaiZe: I have no clue how I'd do that in a way that's not dumb though :/
16:26 J1NX1337: maybe a single, quite circle at 00:00:317 - xd
16:26 J1NX1337: quiet*
16:26 J1NX1337: if only they had made the song a couple seconds longer with something to map
16:27 TheBlaiZe: yeah :\
16:28 TheBlaiZe: I mean, the slider is passable I think. And even if it wasn't, I've seen ranked songs with 4:58 seconds of drain, so I don't think those few seconds would matter that much ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:28 TheBlaiZe: spinner*
16:28 TheBlaiZe: even
16:33 J1NX1337: those seconds of drain don't count the spinners
16:34 TheBlaiZe: they... dont? ... ok ... then.
16:35 TheBlaiZe: It's fine to remove the last spinner then, I suppose
16:35 J1NX1337: what I mean is that they're actually 5 mins or over in drain time
16:36 J1NX1337: but the system doesn't count the spinners as drain afaik
16:36 TheBlaiZe: So then what on earth am I supposed to do with it?
16:41 J1NX1337: leave the spinner for now
16:45 J1NX1337: if it's a problem for nominators then you'll have to think of something else
16:46 TheBlaiZe: will do
16:46 TheBlaiZe: That's just about everything done on my part again, except for an offbeat slider galore that I cba to change right now, update should be up in a few.
16:47 TheBlaiZe: Thanks yet again ^^
16:48 J1NX1337: no problem lol