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Aimer with chelly (EGOIST) - ninelie (TV size)

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N0thingSpecial
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N0thingSpecial
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 10:16:30 AM

Artist: Aimer with chelly (EGOIST)
Title: ninelie (TV size)
Source: 甲鉄城のカバネリ
Tags: Sawano Hiroyuki nothingspecial Kabane zombies attack on titan rip off Koutetsujou no Kabaneri ending ed Habiholic the of iron fortress
BPM: 86
Filesize: 20238kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.4 stars, 88 notes)
  2. Habi's Hard (2.71 stars, 214 notes)
  3. Insane (3.7 stars, 255 notes)
  4. Normal (1.95 stars, 138 notes)
  5. Perish (4.61 stars, 277 notes)
Download: Aimer with chelly (EGOIST) - ninelie (TV size)
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#1

REDOWNLOAD AFTER SEPTEMBER 25TH

Easy: by me
Normal: by me
Habi's Hard: by HabiHolic
insane: by me
Perish: by me

mp3 and timing credit to xChippy's map set
Metadata:http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/ard/Arch/aimer/disco/?SECL-1882

Kisses can't manage his GD anymore so it's now removed from the spread
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Anthony
Anthony
Noice
Shyotamaze
916 posts
Joined December 2014
Shyotamaze
Is that a new meme song wow so many mapsets of this already
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial

Shyotamaze wrote:

Is that a new meme song wow so many mapsets of this already
OI it is DE new meme song, get yo facts straight
Broccoly
1,359 posts
Joined May 2012
Broccoly
[General]
Check AiMod for timing line conflicts

[Perish]
00:06:107 (1,2) - Fix stack
The entire kiai + outro looks soulless... with uniform slider shape and pattern. Spice them up man.
Playability wise there was no problem

[I]
01:26:688 - Map this empty space?
Ok... this diff is like Perish diff with bigger CS..

[H]
01:21:979 (3,4) - line them up better?

Couldn't find anything in N and E
Sorry for short mod but the song is short, and playability-wise it's totally fine but the map is quite boring tbh..
gl on rank!
Deadmadeon
148 posts
Joined October 2014
Deadmadeon
Hi here is my mod hehe
Insane
00:18:839 (4,5,6) - these circles are in the same timing but 4 is so far from 5 and 6, move it more near from they or the other way round
01:08:549 (5,6,1,2) - 5 and 6 are more closer to each other than 6 to 1 and 2 being that they are in the same time interval

Hard
00:10:642 (4,1) - i think that is too hard to get the slider one for a hard difficulty compared to 00:10:293 (3,4) -

00:21:456 (1,2) - I think this would be good for insane and not for hard (I mean the distance between they)

Normal and easy
I saw them and i think that they are good :D

GL!
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial

Broccoly wrote:

[General]
Check AiMod for timing line conflicts

[Perish]
00:06:107 (1,2) - Fix stack
The entire kiai + outro looks soulless... with uniform slider shape and pattern. Spice them up man. Thats kinda what I'm going for, also I was debating whether to delete this and make insane the hardest diff instead. However I do think the outro is justified considering it has a really plain vocal
Playability wise there was no problem

[I]
01:26:688 - Map this empty space?
Ok... this diff is like Perish diff with bigger CS.. yea I after i was done with Insane I had the same feeling

[H]
01:21:979 (3,4) - line them up better?

Couldn't find anything in N and E
Sorry for short mod but the song is short, and playability-wise it's totally fine but the map is quite boring tbh.. I'm going for a semi gansta without completely copying it, so i thought I would start with something extremely simple, maybe I experiment with it more

Deadmadeon wrote:

Hi here is my mod hehe
Insane
00:18:839 (4,5,6) - these circles are in the same timing but 4 is so far from 5 and 6, move it more near from they or the other way round

01:08:549 (5,6,1,2) - 5 and 6 are more closer to each other than 6 to 1 and 2 being that they are in the same time interval 5 and 6 stress the drums, 1 and 2 has increase in spacing cause it has both the kick and the vocals in it

Hard
00:10:642 (4,1) - i think that is too hard to get the slider one for a hard difficulty compared to 00:10:293 (3,4) -

00:21:456 (1,2) - I think this would be good for insane and not for hard (I mean the distance between they)

Normal and easy
I saw them and i think that they are good :D

GL!
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N0thingSpecial
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Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial
Modders tell me should I delete "Perish" cause it's similarity with insane
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Kei
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Joined May 2010
Kei
M4Ming back :D

  • [Perish]
  1. 00:14:130 (3,1,2,3,4) - I'm not qualified to judge difficulties like this one, since I don't feel comfortable modding them and sometimes not able to pass them but I can say this looks rather confusing and difficult to read.

    Looking at your Insane diff I agree that they are very alike. I'd say that the biggest difference between these two is the circle size and some patterns here and there but it's pretty much the same. It's up to you wether you delete it or not. I'm just giving out my thoughts on the matter as you requested. :D
  • [Insane]

    I personally think that the AR is ridiculously high. Even at the kiai with increased SV feels too fast. I'd decrease it to 8,5. I tried it out and it feels much better to play imo.
  1. 00:27:909 (8) - I played the map in order to find misleading patterns and stuff, and one of the main problems I had was this circle. I got a 50 here. I thought it was 1/2 due to its spacing similar to 00:27:386 (6,7), and not 1/4. Maybe I'm just garbage at this game lol but that's what happened to me.
  2. 00:49:014 (1,2,3,4) - This could look much better. It looks messy this way imo. How about making some clean blankets to prevent these sliders from overlapping?
    SPOILER

    I can't really say much more about this difficulty. I don't know how to mod jumpy Insane difficulties like this one. I played it, and think noticed that I miss at some weird angled patterns like 01:00:525 (1,2,3,4,5). I don't feel comfortable when playing these. I think these angles are way too acute.
  • [Hard]

    These pauses like at 00:07:502 (2) could be mapped by replacing (2) with a slider. Otherwise it's exactly the same rhythm pattern as seen in Insane and Perish difficulty. I think you could try making this difficulty different from the other ones.
  1. 00:17:793 (2,3) - I don't agree with these spacing changes. It's just a hard diff, not an insane diff. This feels like too much for a hard diff, specially because you make more spacing changes like at 00:18:839 (4,5,6,7,8) which is also too much. Hard diff players aren't as experienced as Insane diff players to read too many different patterns with inconsistent distance snap.
  2. 00:26:863 (3) - This rhythm sounds weird here because you suddenly stick to the instrumental and ignore the vocals a bit by placing that 1/4 slider. In my opinion, this slider would sound better with vocals if you delete 00:26:688 (3) and move it to (3)'s place aka 00:26:688, and then add a circle at 00:27:386. This sounds more appropriate for a Hard diff imo.
  3. 00:32:793 (4) - This looks somewhat lazy :p you could try something better here. I personally dislike these kind of curves. At least, try spreading it out like this, or try some creative shape yourself.
  4. 00:37:328 (2) - I don't think it's a good idea to decrease the SV all of a sudden like this. The song doesn't even call for it at all since it doesn't sound like it slows down. It sounds the same for me. I'd rather decrease the SV at 00:39:595 instead and add a NC to 00:39:595 (4) in order to make it noticeable and easier to read.
  5. 00:42:909 (1) - I was also gonna suggest you to remove this NC. It'd fit the music more imo.
  6. 00:45:700 (2) - That slider again >< consider trying out a more creative shape like you did before with other similar patterns.
  7. 00:49:014 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I still think that these spacings are too difficult and increase the density of the difficulty a lot x.x It's more of an Insane diff, and Insane diff is like an Extra diff.
  8. 01:13:084 (1) - Lazy 2 repeats? :p that's boring to play! try mapping this in some other way?
  • [Normal]
  1. 00:08:549 (3) - 1/4 short sliders seem like too much for a Normal diff to me imo. I don't think you really need to add these in order to follow the vocals. It sounds just fine if you replace sliders like this one with a circle but it's up to you! :D
  2. 00:14:130 (4) - Same here.
  3. 00:17:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This whole part's density is too high for a Normal diff imo. Try deleting some notes in order to make this diff more suitable for normal diff players. For example, deleting 00:18:839 (4), 00:19:886 (6), 00:21:281 (4), 00:24:072 (4) would be perfect to decrease the density. I see and understand that you strictly want to follow the drums but in easier diffs it's better to ignore some and give priority to strong beats and some 1/2 beats. Try to avoid constant 1/4 patterns.
  4. 00:21:456 (4,5) - How about replacing these two with a slider? I think it'd sound nice with the vocals.
  5. 00:24:246 (4) - You don't really need to make this slider a 1/4 one to strictly follow the vocals. Changing it to 1/2 would sound just fine and more suitable for a normal diff imo.
  6. 00:25:293 (6) - Here too.
  7. 00:25:642 (1,2,3) - This looks very messy tbh. Try spreading them out more because they're overlapping each other like this. I'd try making them curved, and maybe rearrange them like this.
  8. 00:28:432 (1) - A straight slider doesn't sound fitting to the soft and melodic vocals here. How about making it curved and wavy? that'd give the player the feeling of the song more accurately.
  9. 00:36:107 (2) - This slider is overextended to 1/4 when it actually should end at 00:36:456. I think you should fix this.
  10. 00:39:595 (1) - Same as above about changing a straight slider into a wavy slider.
  11. 00:42:386 (1) - And here too :D
  12. 00:48:142 (1) - This spinner starts way too early after (3) and should be changed. I strongly suggest you to delete (3) and move the spinner there (00:47:967). That'd give beginners enough time to react and begin spinning.
  13. 00:52:328 (4) - Too high density again >< how about deleting this note to decrease it?

    From 00:52 to the end the same issues repeat all over so try to look out for these and fix them if you agreed with what I wrote. :oops:
  • [Easy]
  1. 00:11:688 (1) - This slider doesn't follow the music properly imo. You can improve the rhythm here by removing that repeat from that slider and adding another slider at 00:14:479 that ends at 00:15:874 (yup you'll need to delete (2))
  2. 00:17:270 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - The density here increases A LOT. This feels like a normal diff due to its constant 1/2 rhythm mixed up with sliders, circles, and sliders with repeat. Consider remapping a bit this part by replacing a bunch of notes by long sliders.
  3. 00:31:223 (1) - Unnecessary NC imo.
  4. 00:36:805 (1) - Same here. I know these are strong beats but in easier diffs it's better to keep combos with a minimum of 3 notes each. Short combos can result misleading for beginners.
  5. 00:42:386 (1) - Same here. I'll stop spamming with this here.
  6. 00:50:758 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - High density again >< as I said, replacing notes with long sliders will help to decrease it. For example, 00:53:200 (4) isn't really needed there so you can get rid of it. 00:52:153 (3) can be a long slider of the same length instead of a short one with repeat. 00:54:595 (2) can be removed as well. I know there's a drum sound but you can ignore these on easy diffs. 00:57:735 (4) could be removed too, etc.
  7. 01:07:502 (1) - It would be much better imo if you extend this slider to 01:08:200 and remove 01:08:549 (2) and 01:09:944 (4). This is to help decreasing the density and following better the music.
  8. 01:27:037 (1) - Too little time after (3) for beginners to prepare themselves to spin. I don't know what you can try here, but it would be nice if you could leave some more time for them before spinning.
    ____________
That's all. Good luck! :D
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial

Kei wrote:

M4Ming back :D yes my inability to map lower difficult is showing

  • [Perish]
  1. 00:14:130 (3,1,2,3,4) - I'm not qualified to judge difficulties like this one, since I don't feel comfortable modding them and sometimes not able to pass them but I can say this looks rather confusing and difficult to read.

    Looking at your Insane diff I agree that they are very alike. I'd say that the biggest difference between these two is the circle size and some patterns here and there but it's pretty much the same. It's up to you wether you delete it or not. I'm just giving out my thoughts on the matter as you requested. :D
AND PERISH DELETED

  • [Insane]

    I personally think that the AR is ridiculously high. Even at the kiai with increased SV feels too fast. I'd decrease it to 8,5. I tried it out and it feels much better to play imo. I think thats just you since this is not that low of a BPM and ar 9 is perfectly fine for an insane imo, additionally with the amount og stack Im doing I rather keep it less clustered
  1. 00:27:909 (8) - I played the map in order to find misleading patterns and stuff, and one of the main problems I had was this circle. I got a 50 here. I thought it was 1/2 due to its spacing similar to 00:27:386 (6,7), and not 1/4. Maybe I'm just garbage at this game lol but that's what happened to me.
  2. 00:49:014 (1,2,3,4) - This could look much better. It looks messy this way imo. How about making some clean blankets to prevent these sliders from overlapping?
    SPOILER

    I can't really say much more about this difficulty. I don't know how to mod jumpy Insane difficulties like this one. I played it, and think noticed that I miss at some weird angled patterns like 01:00:525 (1,2,3,4,5). I don't feel comfortable when playing these. I think these angles are way too acute.
  • [Hard]

    These pauses like at 00:07:502 (2) could be mapped by replacing (2) with a slider. Otherwise it's exactly the same rhythm pattern as seen in Insane and Perish difficulty. I think you could try making this difficulty different from the other ones.
  1. 00:17:793 (2,3) - I don't agree with these spacing changes. It's just a hard diff, not an insane diff. This feels like too much for a hard diff, specially because you make more spacing changes like at 00:18:839 (4,5,6,7,8) which is also too much. Hard diff players aren't as experienced as Insane diff players to read too many different patterns with inconsistent distance snap. made it less bad i guess
  2. 00:26:863 (3) - This rhythm sounds weird here because you suddenly stick to the instrumental and ignore the vocals a bit by placing that 1/4 slider. In my opinion, this slider would sound better with vocals if you delete 00:26:688 (3) and move it to (3)'s place aka 00:26:688, and then add a circle at 00:27:386. This sounds more appropriate for a Hard diff imo. changed but according to the instruments
  3. 00:32:793 (4) - This looks somewhat lazy :p you could try something better here. I personally dislike these kind of curves. At least, try spreading it out like this, or try some creative shape yourself. I like how your example showed me the exact shape I despise the most, I'm gonna keep it, I rotated it a bit so that better matches 00:32:793 (4) -
  4. 00:37:328 (2) - I don't think it's a good idea to decrease the SV all of a sudden like this. The song doesn't even call for it at all since it doesn't sound like it slows down. It sounds the same for me. I'd rather decrease the SV at 00:39:595 instead and add a NC to 00:39:595 (4) in order to make it noticeable and easier to read.
  5. 00:42:909 (1) - I was also gonna suggest you to remove this NC. It'd fit the music more imo.
  6. 00:45:700 (2) - That slider again >< consider trying out a more creative shape like you did before with other similar patterns. fine.
  7. 00:49:014 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I still think that these spacings are too difficult and increase the density of the difficulty a lot x.x It's more of an Insane diff, and Insane diff is like an Extra diff. I'm not sure doe, excluding the stacking doubles, everything else has almost the same spacing, if later mods further point out this spacing problem I might aswell remap the entire intro, kiai and outro, cause I'm essentially abandoning this style of mapping
  8. 01:13:084 (1) - Lazy 2 repeats? :p that's boring to play! try mapping this in some other way?
  • [Normal]
  1. 00:08:549 (3) - 1/4 short sliders seem like too much for a Normal diff to me imo. I don't think you really need to add these in order to follow the vocals. It sounds just fine if you replace sliders like this one with a circle but it's up to you! :D
  2. 00:14:130 (4) - Same here.
  3. 00:17:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This whole part's density is too high for a Normal diff imo. Try deleting some notes in order to make this diff more suitable for normal diff players. For example, deleting 00:18:839 (4), 00:19:886 (6), 00:21:281 (4), 00:24:072 (4) would be perfect to decrease the density. I see and understand that you strictly want to follow the drums but in easier diffs it's better to ignore some and give priority to strong beats and some 1/2 beats. Try to avoid constant 1/4 patterns.
  4. 00:21:456 (4,5) - How about replacing these two with a slider? I think it'd sound nice with the vocals.
  5. 00:24:246 (4) - You don't really need to make this slider a 1/4 one to strictly follow the vocals. Changing it to 1/2 would sound just fine and more suitable for a normal diff imo.
  6. 00:25:293 (6) - Here too.
  7. 00:25:642 (1,2,3) - This looks very messy tbh. Try spreading them out more because they're overlapping each other like this. I'd try making them curved, and maybe rearrange them like this.
  8. 00:28:432 (1) - A straight slider doesn't sound fitting to the soft and melodic vocals here. How about making it curved and wavy? that'd give the player the feeling of the song more accurately.
  9. 00:36:107 (2) - This slider is overextended to 1/4 when it actually should end at 00:36:456. I think you should fix this.
  10. 00:39:595 (1) - Same as above about changing a straight slider into a wavy slider.
  11. 00:42:386 (1) - And here too :D
  12. 00:48:142 (1) - This spinner starts way too early after (3) and should be changed. I strongly suggest you to delete (3) and move the spinner there (00:47:967). That'd give beginners enough time to react and begin spinning.
  13. 00:52:328 (4) - Too high density again >< how about deleting this note to decrease it?

    From 00:52 to the end the same issues repeat all over so try to look out for these and fix them if you agreed with what I wrote. :oops:
  • [Easy]
  1. 00:11:688 (1) - This slider doesn't follow the music properly imo. You can improve the rhythm here by removing that repeat from that slider and adding another slider at 00:14:479 that ends at 00:15:874 (yup you'll need to delete (2))
  2. 00:17:270 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - The density here increases A LOT. This feels like a normal diff due to its constant 1/2 rhythm mixed up with sliders, circles, and sliders with repeat. Consider remapping a bit this part by replacing a bunch of notes by long sliders.
  3. 00:31:223 (1) - Unnecessary NC imo.
  4. 00:36:805 (1) - Same here. I know these are strong beats but in easier diffs it's better to keep combos with a minimum of 3 notes each. Short combos can result misleading for beginners.
  5. 00:42:386 (1) - Same here. I'll stop spamming with this here.
  6. 00:50:758 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - High density again >< as I said, replacing notes with long sliders will help to decrease it. For example, 00:53:200 (4) isn't really needed there so you can get rid of it. 00:52:153 (3) can be a long slider of the same length instead of a short one with repeat. 00:54:595 (2) can be removed as well. I know there's a drum sound but you can ignore these on easy diffs. 00:57:735 (4) could be removed too, etc.
  7. 01:07:502 (1) - It would be much better imo if you extend this slider to 01:08:200 and remove 01:08:549 (2) and 01:09:944 (4). This is to help decreasing the density and following better the music.
  8. 01:27:037 (1) - Too little time after (3) for beginners to prepare themselves to spin. I don't know what you can try here, but it would be nice if you could leave some more time for them before spinning.
    ____________
That's all. Good luck! :D
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Macy
30 posts
Joined August 2015
Macy
[Insane]

overall looks pretty good and unique from other maps

00:15:002 (2,3) - space a little more

It seems that a majority of the map feels played on the right side of the screen too

[Hard]

00:07:502 (2) - snap this (longer)

01:01:572 (9,1) - these are a bit too far apart for hard diff

01:17:619 (2,3,4) - ^

[Normal]

should add a spinner in the beginning like the other diffs

gl :)
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial
First things First you have my ticket

Talli wrote:

[Insane]

overall looks pretty good and unique from other maps

00:15:002 (2,3) - space a little more

It seems that a majority of the map feels played on the right side of the screen too not sure if that is a big concern, yea maybe 70% of he map plays at the right side of the screen, but it's like glaringly obvious, people probably wont notice when playing

[Hard]

00:07:502 (2) - snap this (longer)

01:01:572 (9,1) - these are a bit too far apart for hard diff

01:17:619 (2,3,4) - ^

[Normal]

should add a spinner in the beginning like the other diffs replaced it with long slider

gl :)
no replay = fix
Gaia
2,808 posts
Joined May 2013
Gaia
[Easy]
00:08:898 (2) - not really following anything soo
00:17:270 (1) - breaks flow, also soft clap on end
00:19:363 (3) - clap
00:20:060 (1) - remove finish
00:21:805 (3) - bad flow
00:22:851 (1) - 00:25:642 (1) - remove finish
all the other hitsounds u go find them urself i dont really want a wall mod for hitsounds lmao

00:28:432 (1) - this part is clearly more musically intense than 00:39:595 (1) - but why is the latter much more rhythmically condense?
00:47:967 (3) - bad flow, if u wanna move back left then curve it up not down
00:49:014 - this is such a strong beat why do u wanna skip it :c
00:49:363 (4) - wrong snap!! it's 1/4
00:50:758 (1,2,3) - your emphasis is backwards lol. switch the 1/1 and the 1/2 repeat
00:53:549 (1,2) - these arent following anything, try this
00:56:339 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - compare these note densities with 00:53:549 (1,2) - are they that much different? nope. u need to have consistency in your rhythms

i think above all else your rhythming needs improvements cuz well osu is a rhythm game xD

[Normal]
00:19:712 (4,5) - slider instead is cool
00:20:060 (1,2,3,4,5) - this flow is way too linear and 2008 try to angle ur sliders and make them point places cuz right now its pretty boring
00:21:805 (4,5) - these have the wrong emphasis, especially (5). sliderends have the weakest emphasis of everything and having the stronger drum beats there puts the wrong emphasis on the wrong notes
00:26:165 (2) - yeah you're following vocals but you're skipping the drum :c
00:27:735 (5,6) - add a reverse or another circle cuz blue -> white is bad polarity
00:28:432 (1,2,1) - bad flow
00:47:967 (1) - spinner doesnt really fit
00:52:851 (1,2) - make 1 into circle please
00:55:293 (1,2) - 00:56:688 (1,2) - there really is no need for these to be 1/2 sliders
01:00:351 (4,5) - switch in timeline
01:04:363 (5,1,2,3) - flow is way too sharp here
01:10:119 (1) - a diamond shape slider .. try putting in some curves, it'll make it look way better, i.e. 1 2 3
and you'd wanna stack the circle with the slider because its easier to read and play
01:13:084 (1) - this is a much better place for a spinner lol
01:16:572 (3,4,5) - this kind of flow is better for hards and above tbh
01:24:246 (1) - this overlap is not good for normal

[Hard]
00:03:316 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - keep these overlaps in insanes please
00:18:839 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - there is no flow here
00:20:584 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - jumps are waaay too big for hard
00:25:293 (4,5,1) - accelerated spacing isnt good in hards either
00:31:223 (1,2,3,4) - this is following nothing..

ok it looks like you're a little misunderstood about the concept of mapping hard. the entire kiai was full of jumps, and they're not even jumps that are meant to be in a hard diff.. i recommend you look at your favourite map and open its hard diff and just study how it's executed, and then try to incorporate that into your map. right now this is just the same as your insane diff except with a hard slapped on its title , and slightly simpler rhythms

[Insane]
why cs3
00:03:316 (1) - ur hard pattern was more interesting tbh
00:06:107 (1) - alright i know you're following vocals but there is a constant guitar sound in the background. the huge gaps like 00:07:502 (2,3) - 00:13:084 (2,3) - 00:15:525 (4,5,1) - are really unfitting
00:18:839 (4,5,6,7) - you use this pattern way too much. and im not exaggerating when i say it's literally every 2nd jump i see the same stack again

uh yeah rest of the map is just jump spam so to summerize:
  1. your rhythms are too simple when you're just following vocals
  2. dont jump spam
  3. dont spam the same jumps
  4. 00:20:758 (3,4,5) - stuff like this is broken spacing. 3->4 is 1/2 but 4->5 is 1/4 but they're the same distance apart
  5. 00:26:863 (5,6,7,8) - 1st of all polarity isn't great, 2ndly this is bad rhythmically
  6. kiai is just random jump spam
  7. 01:08:549 (5,6,1) - bad spacing, (1) isnt even that big of a note to deserve such a big jump
  8. 01:26:514 (1) - no.. you even manually edited the .osu to make it 0.13x wtf
  9. lastly your hitsounds need to be fixed throughout the mapset
same as hard, i honestly recommend you looking at ranked maps that arent by skystar cuz you're lacking foundation in this diff. once you do that you'd probably want to consider remapping because as it stands this needs a LOT of work and u might as well just redo it

sorry if i sounded harsh at the end but it's my honest opinions ;-; good luck and have fun

edit: i forgot to mention but your NC patterns are pretty inconsistent too. Just NC on the big white ticks and you'll be ok
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial
@Gaia I just want to get this off my chest before I finish making the changes according to your mod. I would like to agree with you, especially on hard difficulty, but on insane I can't agree with some of the things, no this is not skystar, I did look at other ranked maps by mappers like monstrata, Milan, setz, if you look at my favorite maps, it's tons of people with different mapping style, and I can make something that is idk for my standard something that can be accepted by the majority (so far I made one: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/945504&m=0 and that one difficulty only, ignore the extra, the extra is shit, I just haven't deleted it), I can make something that is comfortable to play, but thats the thing, monstrata, setz, milan, you, fort, alacat, and tons of other mappers can do the same thing, in fact I saw you mapping this song and I was thinking Maybe I could provide a different experience for the same song, and I tweak my usually style and this was the outcome, yes I agree with the jump spams, but I have to disagree with some of the spacing comments since it was the outcome of of the style, plus it is an insane it should be readable by adequately skilled players, do you want another tatoe meme? Do you want 10 sets of TV size that plays exactly the same, I don't. So no it's not me lacking the most basic fundamentals (though I admit I do need to have a better grip of it), it's not me trying to be a special snowflake, it is just me, tweaking my usual style, and giving it to people who would enjoy this type of mapping, and I did give it to dozens of people who find it interesting and enjoyable to play, I even gave you free promotion so they can make comparison with clear cut more well polished mapping style. I know modders hate the "style" argument but have you at least try to understand how and why the notes where placed there, when I modded your maps I didn't comment on the "excessive" use of triangles and back and forth pattern, cause thats how you place notes in the first place. I do appreciate your mod and admire you as a mapper but I just can't accept all these mods without at least trying to let the modders know my intentions, and that I didn't just spam jumps for shits and giggles basically I'm a fukin retard but I still like my old version for perish and insane
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HabiHolic
5,372 posts
Joined October 2012
HabiHolic
diff spread so very big...

i think your Hard diff is change Light Insane. so your need new Hard diff..

if your need call me. i can made GD
Setz
1,419 posts
Joined August 2013
Setz
m4m return

[Insane]
  1. just a general comment, some parts feel under mapped when you are focusing on the vocals, starting from 00:06:107 (1) - and even starting here 00:17:270 (1) - I dont see how these parts are different from 00:03:316 (1) - where you chose to map the piano. also dont like the use of such slow slider velocity but big spacing, it almost looks like you are trying to copy blue dragon's gangsta map but that kind of intensity mapping just doesnt work that well with this song.
  2. 00:42:822 (2) - i am pretty sure the wiggle on this slider is unrankable because it affects the speed pretty dramatically in the middle.
  3. 00:49:014 (1,2,3,4,1) - cant make sense of this part, you have big spacing for 00:49:014 (1,2,3,4) - but small for 00:50:758 (1) - which is the strong cymbal crash and start of the kiai? i think the emphasis is wrong here :(
  4. 00:53:549 (1) - similar situation
  5. 01:26:514 (1) - lol this is so sudden, wtf this looks like any of the other 1/4 sliders in the map
[Hard]
  1. same comment about slider velocity, it makes the map kind of uncomfortable to play with the constant stop and go motions.
  2. also think this is just a watered down version of the insane, I think you will need another difficulty to be the hard.
  3. 00:25:293 (4,5,1) - ugh, please dont do this, either unstack 4 and 5 or make them all equal spacing
  4. 00:56:688 (2,3,4) - ^
  5. 01:12:386 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^
  6. 00:53:549 (1) - pretty big jump for a hard.
    well, all of these wont really apply if you add a legitimate hard diff, but there is no way this will make it into qualified as the hard.
[Normal]
  1. why no spinner start?
  2. 00:47:967 (1) - pretty sure this is too short of recovery time after spinner for normal.

easy looks fine to me, just once again disagree with slider velocity and spacing choice.

good luck with the map!
Mazziv
998 posts
Joined July 2013
Mazziv
hi from my queue

[Easy]
00:28:432 (1) - make it symmetric? example
00:42:386 (3) - why dont copy this slider and use it 00:45:177 (1) - here too?

[Normal]
00:06:107 (1,2) - this looks kind weird maybe something like this would fit better?
00:07:502 (2,3,1) - fix triangle asdf
00:28:432 (1,2) - try to make the blanket perfect c:
00:45:177 (1) - ctrl+g to bring a different cursor movement?
01:13:084 (1) - try to make it look like something? it looks p random v:
01:17:270 (4) - ctrl+g
01:24:944 (2) - ctrl+g

[Hard]
dont you think ar8.3 is a bit to high? wb ar7?
01:00:874 (7) - ctrl+g
looks p solid

[Insane]
same

the hard diff was byfar one of the best maps i saw so far and i really like your mapping style.
good luck with this!
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial
I will reply to all mods here once I have free time

EDIT: Since I remapped everything, I will say this, I've taken more consideration of all your mods, including spacing correlating to the intensity of the song, more or less to the hitsound that I have(?)
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Shmiklak
Elite Storyboarder
3,218 posts
Joined January 2015
Shmiklak
From queue. Sorry for late.

General

  1. U should add diff between Normal and Hyper
  2. Idk rankable it is or no, but fix in all diffs. http://puu.sh/osOxB/c120996fed.jpg

Easy

  1. Try to do NC every 2-nd big white line, because Combo of 2 objects a bit weird.
  2. 01:27:037 (1) - Change to spinner. It'll make mapset more challengeable
  3. 00:39:595 (1,3,1) - this difference of these sliders
  4. 01:21:456 (1,2) - change form of these sliders. They r weird, and not sexy :/


Normal

  1. 00:06:107 (1,2,3) - very strange pattern. I can't to suggest something.
  2. 00:32:619 (3,4) - Blanket
  3. 01:27:037 (1) - Same as easy
I don't wish to mod insane and hyper (because it's not finished). Imo low quality. Need many work before ranking. Good luck.
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial
@Gaia @Setz I've remappeed Easy, Normal, Hyper (hard) according to your mods

Shmiklak wrote:

From queue. Sorry for late.

General

  1. U should add diff between Normal and Hyper there's gonna be one. I think.
  2. Idk rankable it is or no, but fix in all diffs. http://puu.sh/osOxB/c120996fed.jpg should be k, changed it just to make sure

Easy

  1. Try to do NC every 2-nd big white line, because Combo of 2 objects a bit weird.
  2. 01:27:037 (1) - Change to spinner. It'll make mapset more challengeable sure I guess
  3. 00:39:595 (1,3,1) - this difference of these sliders not exactly a problem
  4. 01:21:456 (1,2) - change form of these sliders. They r weird, and not sexy :/ have any suggestions? cause I personally like these, and on other maps too, if used properly


Normal

  1. 00:06:107 (1,2,3) - very strange pattern. I can't to suggest something. me neither
  2. 00:32:619 (3,4) - Blanket not needed, not everything needs to be blanketed, these are in pairs there's no need for extra tidiness
  3. 01:27:037 (1) - Same as easy k sure
I don't wish to mod insane and hyper (because it's not finished). Imo low quality. Need many work before ranking. Good luck. I do admit it is not the best thing in the world, but calling it low quality is a bit of a stretch, it's a different style and at least it is fun to play, not just me
TheLeviathan
271 posts
Joined December 2014
TheLeviathan
From my Mod Q

HYPER


00:38:898 (7) - i think this slider have to be separated into 2 sliders like 00:37:502 (3,4) - because otherwise you miss a nice hearing sound in the middle of slider
00:44:305 (6,7) - make this spacing higher then 00:43:607 (4,5) - this, for better flow
01:29:392 - consider ending spinner here, because where it is ending now, it's kinda have no background sound right at that part

Same thing in other difficulties



Easy

00:00:526 - 00:03:316 - You could add a spinner
00:08:549 - i think placing note here is necessary
00:14:130 - ^
00:16:572 (3) - the reason i don't like this note, is because so far you're mapping into song lyrics, so this not doesn't fit, especially if it's in same combo with previous notes, consider removing it



that's it i guess, good luck
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial

TheLeviathan wrote:

From my Mod Q

HYPER


00:38:898 (7) - i think this slider have to be separated into 2 sliders like 00:37:502 (3,4) - because otherwise you miss a nice hearing sound in the middle of slider following the hold of the vocals while keeping it consistent with the intruments
00:44:305 (6,7) - make this spacing higher then 00:43:607 (4,5) - this, for better flow k sure
01:29:392 - consider ending spinner here, because where it is ending now, it's kinda have no background sound right at that part I do think it is kinda late, but it's like 0.00001ms late not a complete 1/8 tick late

Same thing in other difficulties



Easy

00:00:526 - 00:03:316 - You could add a spinner k sure
00:08:549 - i think placing note here is necessary I want to keep the note density of the intro as little as possible for easy
00:14:130 - ^ ^
00:16:572 (3) - the reason i don't like this note, is because so far you're mapping into song lyrics, so this not doesn't fit, especially if it's in same combo with previous notes, consider removing it if you haven't noticed I was hitting to pitch changes in guitar and mapping to the vocals, also I would think it is too empty when going into a relatively more intense section of the song



that's it i guess, good luck
Arusamour
424 posts
Joined April 2014
Arusamour
not gonna mod this until habi and kisses finishes
_handholding
3,109 posts
Joined April 2014
_handholding
http://puu.sh/oxVTP/f09fd9954a.rar

I added hitsounds to the diff, it'd be cool if you could add the 2 hitsound files to the set as well. Dw I named them so they would conflict with your current hitsound patterns in any way.
I'll change up some of the patterns later
N0thingSpecial
2,355 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
N0thingSpecial

Boobs wrote:

not gonna mod this until habi and kisses finishes
understandable, sorry for bothering you.
_handholding
3,109 posts
Joined April 2014
_handholding
I cant remember what changes I wanted to make were but i think I got everything down

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Easy
-Not a big fan of the SV choice here. In addition that it's rather big jump from this to Normal, 1/2 sliders are too short which is confusing for newbies, especially the ones with repeaters like 01:03:316 (3) -
-00:36:107 (3,4) - i feel like you're missing the main verse on the vocals. Maybe try something like this? http://puu.sh/oOzoA/c4e796bd33.jpg
-why don't map 01:06:456 - ? or here 01:08:898 (2,3) - could've been a circle+1/1 slider instead. I'm guessing you're mapping to vocals, but things like these confuse me.

Normal
-Sometimes you have some overlaps that don't look good or don't feel needed at all. Patterns like 00:07:502 (3,4,1) - 00:54:770 (4,6) - 01:06:107 (3,1) - look messy because of it, even if they are visible for a short period of time.
-Some patterns would look better if you try to reuse slider shapes instead of creating new ones, or you could try to make things look equally spaced (visually). For example, if you look at this pattern 01:19:363 (3,4,5) - , you can say that (4) is closer to (3) than (5), even tho they are spaced the same, using this kind of idea http://puu.sh/oOAob/5881432030.jpg may make your map look more 'polished'. Or here 00:40:991 (2,3) - , reusing shapes like http://puu.sh/oOAKR/80969268d6.jpg looks kinda better in my opinion.
-00:06:107 (1,2,3) - I prefer using just one slider shape for this kind of patterns, using different ones tend to like.. 'overreact' the look. Simple stuff at this level tend to be better.
-00:49:363 (3) - Just to keep it at a friendly level, i'd try to move the arrow a bit up so the slider-slide is more visible

Light Insane
-00:13:607 (2,3) - Since the music hasn't changed yet, custom-stack it like before? Would make more sense i think
-00:49:886 (3,4) - Starting (4) on 1/8 doesn't make sense at all, it should be on 1/2. same on higher diff.
-01:02:619 (3,4,5) - You should emphasis vocals by clicking it in this case i think, i mean this http://puu.sh/oOFvu/3b22746e50.jpg
-01:12:037 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - I didn't get the idea behind making the most prominent beats stacked while softer beats are spaced. I mean, it'd make much sense to space 01:12:735 (8,9) - and probably stack the notes before if you want.

Kisses
-00:41:688 (3,1,2) - Could you like, make the spacing represent the rhythm in a less confusing way? Using similar spacing between 1/4 and 3/8(i think that's 3/8, im badplsnokill) is not a good idea at all. Same after
-00:45:700 (2,3) - Not overlapped looks cleaner in my opinion..
-00:50:322 (1) - But vocals start from 00:50:409 - o
-01:00:177 (5,1,2) - my ocd tells me that (5) should be rotated like 30°, like http://puu.sh/oOGgt/0e7d2cff54.jpg ?
-01:02:270 (2,3,4) - The angle you use here is kind.. too lineal? I think it'd be cooler if you do something sharper like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5133480
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