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xtrem3x
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General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K


> your spread at the beginning is quite spacious, consider adding 2 or 3 notes in Futsuu.
> Preview point in 00:38:084-
> in each touhou song must be (obligatory) ZUN in tags, and delete "Sur" of your tags (with Surono is sufficient).


[Kantan]
00:00:584 (1,2,3,4) - according to the vocal sound these notes could be kkdd to fix the problem and make the pattern more natural.

00:23:084 (16,17,18) - at this point I would suggest that these 3 notes be of a single color as they have the same sound.

00:39:584 (40,41,42,43,44) - I suggested it in the previous point and it is better to focus on the vocal leaving this pattern as dkkkd, appears the same thing in 00:42:959 (47,48)- but with big notes, applies too in 00:51:584 (60,61,62,63,64)- as Dkkkd.


[Futsuu]
00:05:084 - applying suggestion in kantan, this note must be kat for consistence.

00:14:646 - at this point I have seen an inconsistency because this point has no sound for a triple, on the contrary in 00:14:834- if it has a discrete sound to be triple (kkk), then it is possible to erase this note and add a kat in 00:15:021-

00:23:084 (48,49,50) - in this triplet I have noticed that it has a difference of sound in the second and third note, which makes me think that it would be better to leave it as DDK to couple it with the sound of the previous note.

00:29:646 - I would prefer that you erase this note because it has the same triple in muzukashii and that breaks the spread somewhat.

00:39:959 (89,90,91) - As I suggested in Kantan, it's preferable to have this pattern as dkkkd to focus on the vocal sound, same in 00:51:584 (118,119,120,121,122)-


[Muzukashii]

00:14:834 (33,34,35,36,37) - I would suggest leaving this as kkkkd to intone the piano sound.

00:23:084 (64,65,66,67,68) - the rhythm in this section is a little confusing, although is correct to follow with the obvious sounds of bass, I would suggest to follow another type of pattern to vary it (a pattern like that seems pretty predictable to me), which my suggestion would be to leave it as DDKDK.

00:25:334 (71,72,73) - you don't need have different patterns to focus a very obvious vocal, it could be the same as 00:31:334 (91,92,93) -

00:33:021 (98,99) - definitely here is a swap, since it repeats the pattern later and here is preferable have a difference, in addition to that it intones with the vocal.

01:06:396 - kat? this note dulls the next one according to your rhythm tracking.


[Nardo's Oni]

00:09:115 - In this pattern it has as a kind of variations related to the vocal, my suggestion would be to change this note to Don to notice those differences of tones (atteru kara ).

00:20:834 (70,71,72,73,74) - in this section it has 2 variants, in one where you could follow the low tones of piano and another where you can complete the follow-up of vocals, which might suggest changing this by kdkkd (to complement the vocal and start following the sounds of blow) or kkkdk (to focus on low piano sounds).

00:36:490 - This suggestion is questionable but in my opinion add a kat should intone in this point.

00:56:459 (255,256,257) - for some reason I see that the consistency is broken here because in all the kiai time the vocal tracking is evident, I would suggestchanging it by dkd and the point 00:57:209 (260,261)- changing by kk, specifically to follow the vocal flow.


[JuDa's Inner Oni]
00:09:959 (39) - At this point I see that you follow a kind of discrete sounds, but in my opinion this note is a bit out of place, because if you put kkdd you can better appreciate that change in the low tones, in addition to completing the long vocal sound.

00:26:459 (89,90) - definitely these notes should be kat for follow-up to the vocal, why in 00:27:584 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100)- the pattern is similar, but it would be like "here my pattern ends and now I'm going in reverse".

00:29:271 - Would you consider removing this finish? It doesn't have an adequate emphasis to be a big note.

00:36:296 - I personally would prefer to use the spinner to follow the vocal than the BG sound, until 00:37:146-

00:49:521 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92) - in this segment you can clearly hear a wind sound, which leads me to suggest changing the note to kat in 00:49:802- to not lose that emphasis.

00:55:146 (126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - totally contrary to what I have seen in point 00:43:334- this part has less intensity in vocal, which could suggest changing this pattern where most notes are Don, something like d kdkkddddk to have a considerable difference with the point mentioned above.

01:08:084 - this note seems to me somewhat inadequate considering point 01:02:084 (177,178)- and it is preferable to repeat what you did in that point mentioned.

01:12:584 (259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267) - in my opinion I would prefer to see more kats in this last pattern since it has a high pitch, a suggestion would be to leave it as kdkdkkddk.


[Sur's Inner Oni]
00:36:584 - I feel that this note is leftover, focusing mainly on the BG sound.

00:49:521 (267,268,269,270,271,272,273) - At this point you could consider combining it with the wind sound, which my suggestion would be to change this by kkdkkkkd, keeping in mind that d (note 269 and 273) would emphasize the hit between high tone.

00:51:209 (276,277,278,279,280) - according to my previous suggestion, at this point the beep sound is explicitly followed and at the end it can be a big note (kkkkD) to emphasize the start of the 2nd kiai time.

00:52:896 (290,291,292,293,294,295) - you would consider changing the meaning of these 2 triples as ddk kdk, mainly to intone the vocal.
Topic Starter
Prophecy

xtrem3x wrote:

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xtrem3x wrote:

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General:

> your spread at the beginning is quite spacious, consider adding 2 or 3 notes in Futsuu. Oh yes, I missed this point at previous mod =w=
> Preview point in 00:38:084 Yea
> in each touhou song must be (obligatory) ZUN in tags, and delete "Sur" of your tags (with Surono is sufficient). Right,
Added "ZUN" and Deleted "SUR" in all difficulties



Kantan

  • 00:00:584 (1,2,3,4) - according to the vocal sound these notes could be kkdd to fix the problem and make the pattern more natural.
    Sounds resonable, changed 3rd note to k

    00:23:084 (16,17,18) - at this point I would suggest that these 3 notes be of a single color as they have the same sound.
    Maybe no, I keep it as constant, following kiai DKK

    00:39:584 (40,41,42,43,44) - I suggested it in the previous point and it is better to focus on the vocal leaving this pattern as dkkkd, appears the same thing in 00:42:959 (47,48)- but with big notes, applies too in 00:51:584 (60,61,62,63,64)- as Dkkkd.
    All dkdkd -> dkkkd, great point!


Futsuu


  • 00:05:084 - applying suggestion in kantan, this note must be kat for consistence.
    Same as Kantan

    00:14:646 - at this point I have seen an inconsistency because this point has no sound for a triple, on the contrary in 00:14:834- if it has a discrete sound to be triple (kkk), then it is possible to erase this note and add a kat in 00:15:021-
    dd kk instead.

    00:23:084 (48,49,50) - in this triplet I have noticed that it has a difference of sound in the second and third note, which makes me think that it would be better to leave it as DDK to couple it with the sound of the previous note.
    Alright.

    00:29:646 - I would prefer that you erase this note because it has the same triple in muzukashii and that breaks the spread somewhat.
    I will consider it later because it following vocals.

    00:39:959 (89,90,91) - As I suggested in Kantan, it's preferable to have this pattern as dkkkd to focus on the vocal sound, same in 00:51:584 (118,119,120,121,122)-
    Same as Kantan


Muzukashii


  • 00:14:834 (33,34,35,36,37) - I would suggest leaving this as kkkkd to intone the piano sound.
    OK

    00:23:084 (64,65,66,67,68) - the rhythm in this section is a little confusing, although is correct to follow with the obvious sounds of bass, I would suggest to follow another type of pattern to vary it (a pattern like that seems pretty predictable to me), which my suggestion would be to leave it as DDKDK.
    Considered other difficulties, changed to DDKDK.

    00:25:334 (71,72,73) - you don't need have different patterns to focus a very obvious vocal, it could be the same as 00:31:334 (91,92,93) -
    fixed to ddk

    00:33:021 (98,99) - definitely here is a swap, since it repeats the pattern later and here is preferable have a difference, in addition to that it intones with the vocal.
    Right.

    01:06:396 - kat? this note dulls the next one according to your rhythm tracking.
    OK
Update log:
> Applied xtrem3x's mod for Kantan, Futsuu, Muzu
> Fixed Preview time for all difficulties
> Fixed Tag issue for all difficulties
Nardoxyribonucleic

xtrem3x wrote:

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General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K

Nardo's Oni


  • 00:09:115 - In this pattern it has as a kind of variations related to the vocal, my suggestion would be to change this note to Don to notice those differences of tones (atteru kara ). I think either k or d is fine as 00:07:709 (18,21) - also has the same pitch.

    00:20:834 (70,71,72,73,74) - in this section it has 2 variants, in one where you could follow the low tones of piano and another where you can complete the follow-up of vocals, which might suggest changing this by kdkkd (to complement the vocal and start following the sounds of blow) or kkkdk (to focus on low piano sounds). Retained to reflect the vocal pitch increase with d k at 00:20:834 (70,74) -

    00:36:490 - This suggestion is questionable but in my opinion add a kat should intone in this point. Remain unchanged to focus on the vocals.

    00:56:459 (255,256,257) - for some reason I see that the consistency is broken here because in all the kiai time the vocal tracking is evident, I would suggestchanging it by dkd and the point 00:57:209 (260,261)- changing by kk, specifically to follow the vocal flow. It is obviously not broken. k d at 00:57:209 (259,260) - could follow the pitch drop while k k d at 00:56:459 (254,255,256) - could emphasize the neighbouring low/high-pitched notes at 00:56:271 (252,259) - respectively.
Thanks for your mod though~ :)
qoot8123
hi, here comes my mod as request.

[Kantan]
  1. 00:30:584 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37) - how about trying this pattern? it would be more consistent
  2. 01:05:084 (4) - you may change to d to distinguish the hitsound on 01:03:584 (3) -
  3. 01:11:834 (13) - similar case as 01:05:084 (4) -.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:00:584 (1,2,3,4) - try to use similar pattern like 00:05:084 (8,9,10,11) - ?
  2. 00:12:584 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34) - consider this part lacks of 2/1 rest moment, I think you can put a 2/1 break within this pattern like this(by following piano,vocal and beat).
  3. 00:27:584 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68) - consider this pattern's density is similar with muzukashii, you may change 00:27:584 (58) - to d and remove 00:28:334 (60) -
  4. 00:33:959 (76,78) - these two notes could be removed in order to make better spread with kantan and muzu.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:01:896 (5) - you may move it to 00:01:709 - to make the rhythm more clear
  2. 00:09:396 (21,22) - I think k d would be better for vocal's pronunciation if you refer to 00:06:209 (14,15,16,17,18) -
  3. 00:24:584 (69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79) - this pattern could be less density considering oni has similar density as muzu.
[Nardo's Oni]
  1. 00:09:584 (23) - consider the vocal's pronunciation , you may change it to d if you refer to 00:06:209 (15,16,17,18,19) -
  2. 00:10:709 (24,25) - similar case as above, you can change it to k k
[JuDa's Inner Oni]
  1. 01:12:584 (259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267) - how about just use 1/2 finisher instead of 1/4 stream? i think it could emphasize the guitar sound.
[Sur's Inner Oni]
  1. 00:07:896 (33,34) - you may change to k d in order to make consistent with 00:02:084 (8) - .
  2. 00:36:584 (188) - this note could be removed
  3. 01:04:896 (373,374,1,2,3,4,5) - I think this pattern should stop on 01:05:365 -because of guitar sound ,so you may change the pattern like this
good luck! :)
Nardoxyribonucleic

qoot8123 wrote:

hi, here comes my mod as request.

[Nardo's Oni]
  1. 00:09:584 (23) - consider the vocal's pronunciation , you may change it to d if you refer to 00:06:209 (15,16,17,18,19) - The vocal pitch here is the same as 00:09:396 (22) - so I would prefer k here.
  2. 00:10:709 (24,25) - similar case as above, you can change it to k k As the pitch becomes slightly lower than the previous note, d would be fine to me.
good luck! :)
Thanks for your mod qoot~ :)
Topic Starter
Prophecy
All fixed, except:

00:24:584 (69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79) - this pattern could be less density considering oni has similar density as muzu.

Seems it's fine for the spread.

Thank for modding <3

@Surono and Judy : please check qoot's mod and xtrem3's mod
Jonarwhal
Sh1n1 was going to mod this before his removal.
[General]
  1. Consider adjusting the background. I recommend this in each difficulty.
    0,0,"BG.png",0,70
[Kantan]
  1. 00:40:709 (43) - I think you should switch this to d because the pitch is falling here. (00:52:709 (63) - )
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:08:834 (14,15,16) - I recommend dkk or ddk here because it is more accurate for the pitches.
  2. 00:36:209 - Finisher here is inconsistent with other difficulties. Please remove or add it in other difficulties.
  3. 00:40:709 - Same as kantan
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:08:834 (19,20,21,22) - Similar to Futsuu, this could be completely inverted though.
  2. 00:12:584 - / 00:23:834 - Please include a 3/2 or greater break in this location. I recommend removing the notes in between here 00:17:646 - / 00:18:209 - here to create a nice little 3/2 gap.
  3. 00:24:584 - / 00:36:209 - Please include a 3/2 or greater break in this location. I recommend simply removing 00:30:959 - this.
Call me back owo
Topic Starter
Prophecy

Jonawaga wrote:

Sh1n1 was going to mod this before his removal.
[General]
  1. Consider adjusting the background. I recommend this in each difficulty.
    0,0,"BG.png",0,70
Done.
[Kantan]
  1. 00:40:709 (43) - I think you should switch this to d because the pitch is falling here. (00:52:709 (63) - ) Done.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:08:834 (14,15,16) - I recommend dkk or ddk here because it is more accurate for the pitches. I prefer ddk.
  2. 00:36:209 - Finisher here is inconsistent with other difficulties. Please remove or add it in other difficulties. Removed finisher
  3. 00:40:709 - Same as kantan Changed to d
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:08:834 (19,20,21,22) - Similar to Futsuu, this could be completely inverted though. Changed to ddkk
  2. 00:12:584 - / 00:23:834 - Please include a 3/2 or greater break in this location. I recommend removing the notes in between here 00:17:646 - / 00:18:209 - here to create a nice little 3/2 gap. Removed 2 1/4 notes.
  3. 00:24:584 - / 00:36:209 - Please include a 3/2 or greater break in this location. I recommend simply removing 00:30:959 - this. Alright
Call me back owo
Updated all difficulties.
Jonarwhal
waiting on responses from JuDa and Surono~
Surono

xtrem3x wrote:

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General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K


> your spread at the beginning is quite spacious, consider adding 2 or 3 notes in Futsuu.
> Preview point in 00:38:084-
> in each touhou song must be (obligatory) ZUN in tags, and delete "Sur" of your tags (with Surono is sufficient).

[Sur's Inner Oni]
00:36:584 - I feel that this note is leftover, focusing mainly on the BG sound. hmm..

00:49:521 (267,268,269,270,271,272,273) - At this point you could consider combining it with the wind sound, which my suggestion would be to change this by kkdkkkkd, keeping in mind that d (note 269 and 273) would emphasize the hit between high tone. I kept here but applied kkdkkkd in 01:07:521 - here as more accurate

00:51:209 (276,277,278,279,280) - according to my previous suggestion, at this point the beep sound is explicitly followed and at the end it can be a big note (kkkkD) to emphasize the start of the 2nd kiai time. ah normal notes is fine

00:52:896 (290,291,292,293,294,295) - you would consider changing the meaning of these 2 triples as ddk kdk, mainly to intone the vocal. vocal emphasized its finest, thanks applied~

qoot8123 wrote:

hi, here comes my mod as request.

[Sur's Inner Oni]
  1. 00:07:896 (33,34) - you may change to k d in order to make consistent with 00:02:084 (8) - .hmm kept it as variation
  2. 00:36:584 (188) - this note could be removed alright, seems nothing to emphasis at there. as xtr3me suggest too
  3. 01:04:896 (373,374,1,2,3,4,5) - I think this pattern should stop on 01:05:365 -because of guitar sound ,so you may change the pattern like this applied your suggestion, but I changed kkd as dkk.. flows better for me
good luck! :)
thank you dudes~
Topic Starter
Prophecy
Updated Surono's difficulty. Waiting JuDa's response. AND BUBBLE!
JUDYDANNY
rechecked on my diff, Thanks for mod (¦3[___]
http://puu.sh/zva9F/1fd0f77a93.zip

[]

xtrem3x wrote:

[JuDa's Inner Oni]
00:09:959 (39) - At this point I see that you follow a kind of discrete sounds, but in my opinion this note is a bit out of place, because if you put kkdd you can better appreciate that change in the low tones, in addition to completing the long vocal sound.
:arrow: I changed to kat and somewhere too.

00:26:459 (89,90) - definitely these notes should be kat for follow-up to the vocal, why in 00:27:584 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100)- the pattern is similar, but it would be like "here my pattern ends and now I'm going in reverse".
:arrow: Because of sounds not snare, I make a single kat not to emphasize to kat sound than latter ddkkdkk,.

00:29:271 - Would you consider removing this finish? It doesn't have an adequate emphasis to be a big note.
:arrow: keeping for vocal accent.

00:36:296 - I personally would prefer to use the spinner to follow the vocal than the BG sound, until 00:37:146-
:arrow: rearranged there.

00:49:521 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92) - in this segment you can clearly hear a wind sound, which leads me to suggest changing the note to kat in 00:49:802- to not lose that emphasis.
:arrow: nope on purpose. Sounds nearly to light but I want to make a emphasized don on 00:49:709 - that sounds clear.

00:55:146 (126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - totally contrary to what I have seen in point 00:43:334- this part has less intensity in vocal, which could suggest changing this pattern where most notes are Don, something like d kdkkddddk to have a considerable difference with the point mentioned above.
:arrow: rearranged there.

01:08:084 - this note seems to me somewhat inadequate considering point 01:02:084 (177,178)- and it is preferable to repeat what you did in that point mentioned.
:arrow: rearranged there.

01:12:584 (259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267) - in my opinion I would prefer to see more kats in this last pattern since it has a high pitch, a suggestion would be to leave it as kdkdkkddk.
:arrow: rearranged there.

qoot8123 wrote:

[JuDa's Inner Oni]
  1. 01:12:584 (259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267) - how about just use 1/2 finisher instead of 1/4 stream? i think it could emphasize the guitar sound.
    :arrow: rearranged there, draw the stream to 01:14:084 - .
Topic Starter
Prophecy
Updated JuDa's difficulty, we're ready!
Jonarwhal
woohoo
Aloda
Surprise check hi

Kantan seems okay

[Futsuu]
00:28:521 (60,61) - this 1/2 pattern feels pretty out of place, and the gap starting at 00:27:959 - is a little weird too. Try moving 00:28:521 (60) - to 00:28:334 - for a simpler, more fluid structure.

I'm not a fan of how you've left a gap at 00:30:584 - right as the intensity of the song is rising. You could probably restructure this a little to improve the flow and have a nicer build up of density from 00:24:584 - through to 00:36:209 - . That might be a little vague, so you're welcome to send me a message if you want more specifics.

I really don't see a reason to leave the gap at 00:41:459 - so I recommend adding a note here. Having the gap at the start of a measure like this is kind of unintuitive.

[Muzukashii]
00:30:584 - More or less the same thing I mentioned in the Futsuu applies here. I think you'd be fine just adding a note at 00:30:959 - and adding a gap or two elsewhere where they'd fit.

00:41:271 - and 00:53:271 - feel pretty empty to me, try adding a note into each.

01:05:084 (207,208,209,210) - This doesn't play all that well imo. Try to make it a little simpler and more fitting with the other kinds of patterns you've used throughout the map. Just moving 01:05:646 (209) - to 01:05:459 - could be fine.

Nardo's is good.

Sur's is fine.

[JuDa's Inner Oni]
フェードアウトと共にストリームを叩くのはあまり相応しくないと思うから最後のストリームを変えてみませんか?他の難易度のように01:13:334 - に終わらせて、それともこのようなパターンにすればいいかもしれません。

Let's go with that for now. lmk when you've applied.
Topic Starter
Prophecy

Aloda wrote:

Surprise check hi

Kantan seems okay

[Futsuu]
00:28:521 (60,61) - this 1/2 pattern feels pretty out of place, and the gap starting at 00:27:959 - is a little weird too. Try moving 00:28:521 (60) - to 00:28:334 - for a simpler, more fluid structure. Agree, fixed.

I'm not a fan of how you've left a gap at 00:30:584 - right as the intensity of the song is rising. You could probably restructure this a little to improve the flow and have a nicer build up of density from 00:24:584 - through to 00:36:209 - . That might be a little vague, so you're welcome to send me a message if you want more specifics. Added some note to the specified range.

I really don't see a reason to leave the gap at 00:41:459 - so I recommend adding a note here. Having the gap at the start of a measure like this is kind of unintuitive. Alright, added kat

[Muzukashii]
00:30:584 - More or less the same thing I mentioned in the Futsuu applies here. I think you'd be fine just adding a note at 00:30:959 - and adding a gap or two elsewhere where they'd fit. Same as Futsuu

00:41:271 - and 00:53:271 - feel pretty empty to me, try adding a note into each. Added a don into each

01:05:084 (207,208,209,210) - This doesn't play all that well imo. Try to make it a little simpler and more fitting with the other kinds of patterns you've used throughout the map. Just moving 01:05:646 (209) - to 01:05:459 - could be fine. Right, fixed

Nardo's is good.

Sur's is fine.

[JuDa's Inner Oni]
フェードアウトと共にストリームを叩くのはあまり相応しくないと思うから最後のストリームを変えてみませんか?他の難易度のように01:13:334 - に終わらせて、それともこのようなパターンにすればいいかもしれません。

Let's go with that for now. lmk when you've applied.
Thanks for modding!
JUDYDANNY
Agreed with aloda. Thanks for mod(¦3[___]

Update please~ :D
http://puu.sh/zFElG/3a5842eb54.zip
Aloda
Good! 'w')b
Satellite
congrats!
Topic Starter
Prophecy

Satellite wrote:

congrats!
Thank you senpai :3
Surono
Fine! `3')9
Mafumafu
gratz!!!
Topic Starter
Prophecy
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