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Julie
Re-bub fixed some snap

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Kawawa

Julie wrote:

Re-bub fixed some snap
Thanks! :D
Avena
I know there isn't any "right" choice, but wouldn't "Toromaru" work better?
not only it looks nicer when you think about it, the artist is known as Toromaru, it's a name, it's most likely going to be capitallized.
also https://remywiki.com/Enigma
Topic Starter
Kawawa

Priti wrote:

I know there isn't any "right" choice, but wouldn't "Toromaru" work better?
not only it looks nicer when you think about it, the artist is known as Toromaru, it's a name, it's most likely going to be capitallized.
also https://remywiki.com/Enigma
I asked it to Artist directly from email. because I really could not find his romanised name in all the official web.
and He told me.
About an artist name, Japanese "とろまる" is the name to express me.
so there is no rule to romanised name. By the way, the meaning of "とろまる" comes from "retro" and "multi".

so I will think it again surely.
Thanks for your opinion and thinking!! :)
Aruel
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2016-06-01 00:11 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/949608 toromaru - Enigma [BASIC]]
2016-06-01 00:11 Kawawa: 지금 삘인가여?
2016-06-01 00:11 Kawawa: 굳
2016-06-01 00:11 Fresh Chicken: 렛츠고
2016-06-01 00:11 Fresh Chicken: 넹 핵삘
2016-06-01 00:12 Kawawa: 저도 뭔가 개선할거 있으면 말하고
2016-06-01 00:12 Kawawa: 변경할게영
2016-06-01 00:12 Fresh Chicken: 넹
2016-06-01 00:13 Fresh Chicken: 00:17:893 (17893|5) - 얘뭔가
2016-06-01 00:13 Fresh Chicken: 너무 길게 살짝 거슬리는 삘이나는뎀
2016-06-01 00:13 Fresh Chicken: 뭔가 애를 줄이고 중간에 일반노트 하나 놓는것도 좋지않ㅇ르까요?
2016-06-01 00:13 Kawawa: 00:17:893 - ~00:18:802 - 여기까지 이어지는
2016-06-01 00:13 Fresh Chicken: 네 피아노
2016-06-01 00:13 Kawawa: 피아노 들을 묶어낸거긴한ㄷ게
2016-06-01 00:14 Fresh Chicken: 음 그래도 의도가 확 보이니
2016-06-01 00:14 Fresh Chicken: 넹 저리 놔두졍
2016-06-01 00:14 Kawawa: 넹
2016-06-01 00:15 Fresh Chicken: 01:08:045 (68045|5,68348|5,68499|1) - 얘네 뭔가
2016-06-01 00:15 Fresh Chicken: 의도가 있으신건가요?
2016-06-01 00:15 Kawawa: 01:08:499 (68499|1,68802|2,69711|1,70014|2,70924|1,71227|2) -
2016-06-01 00:15 Kawawa: 이건 전부 같은 피아노들이고
2016-06-01 00:15 Fresh Chicken: 아하
2016-06-01 00:15 Fresh Chicken: 위를 안봤꾼
2016-06-01 00:15 Kawawa: 01:08:045 (68045|5,68348|5) - 이건 동일한 스네어 드럼
2016-06-01 00:15 Kawawa: 넹
2016-06-01 00:16 Fresh Chicken: 아 걍 PM 싹다 무시해야지
2016-06-01 00:16 Fresh Chicken: 이것저것 답장하니까 집중이안되요 ㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 00:16 Kawawa: 괜차나영
2016-06-01 00:16 Fresh Chicken: 베이직은
2016-06-01 00:16 Fresh Chicken: 뭐 그닥 막 잡을만한게 없네여 깔끔해서
2016-06-01 00:17 Fresh Chicken: 디스...이스 베리 클린...
2016-06-01 00:17 Kawawa: 01:22:439 (82439|2,82742|1) -
2016-06-01 00:17 Fresh Chicken: 그냥 노비스 보져
2016-06-01 00:17 Kawawa: 이 부분
2016-06-01 00:17 Fresh Chicken: 넹?
2016-06-01 00:17 Kawawa: 01:22:742 (82742|1) - 여기 제거하고
2016-06-01 00:17 Kawawa: 01:22:666 - 01:22:893 - 여기 추가해서
2016-06-01 00:17 Kawawa: 그냥 드럼으로 따라갈까요?
2016-06-01 00:17 Kawawa: 흠
2016-06-01 00:17 Fresh Chicken: 아 엇박 드럼이요?
2016-06-01 00:17 Fresh Chicken: 근데 의도가 피아노를 거의 집중적으로 따라가셨는데
2016-06-01 00:17 Fresh Chicken: 음 근데 플레이방면에서는 드럼도 나쁘지않은거같고
2016-06-01 00:18 Fresh Chicken: 근데 뉴비 생각해서는 차라리 이상태가 낫지않을까요?
2016-06-01 00:19 Kawawa: 음
2016-06-01 00:19 Kawawa: 그러져
2016-06-01 00:19 Fresh Chicken: 넹
2016-06-01 00:19 Fresh Chicken: 그럼 노비스고 꼬꼬
2016-06-01 00:20 Fresh Chicken: 어
2016-06-01 00:20 Fresh Chicken: 잔도
2016-06-01 00:20 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ잔도
2016-06-01 00:20 Fresh Chicken: 븐됬는데요?
2016-06-01 00:20 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 00:20 Kawawa: ?
2016-06-01 00:20 Kawawa: 머야
2016-06-01 00:20 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ?
2016-06-01 00:21 Fresh Chicken: 뭐 나쁜소식은 아니졍
2016-06-01 00:21 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970988 toromaru - Enigma [NOVICE]]
2016-06-01 00:21 Fresh Chicken: 이거나 하져
2016-06-01 00:21 Kawawa: 넹
2016-06-01 00:22 Fresh Chicken: 00:18:802 (18802|2,19105|2,19105|0) - 이거 저도 좋다고 생각하는데 궁금해서 그냥 해머를 의도하신건가요?
2016-06-01 00:22 Kawawa: 넹
2016-06-01 00:22 Kawawa: 전 저 늒미이 뭔가
2016-06-01 00:22 Fresh Chicken: ㅇㅎ
2016-06-01 00:22 Kawawa: 찰지더라구여
2016-06-01 00:22 Fresh Chicken: 그렇군여
2016-06-01 00:23 Fresh Chicken: 00:29:408 (29408|0,29560|1,29711|2) - 음 이거 원핸드
2016-06-01 00:23 Fresh Chicken: 살짝 어렵지않을까요?
2016-06-01 00:24 Kawawa: 음
2016-06-01 00:24 Fresh Chicken: 저거 전 바꿔주시는게 좋을거같은데 솔직히
2016-06-01 00:24 Fresh Chicken: 흠
2016-06-01 00:24 Fresh Chicken: 깔끔해보이긴해도 은근 헬이 될수가있어요
2016-06-01 00:24 Kawawa: 어떻게 해볼까여?
2016-06-01 00:24 Kawawa: 피드백좀 주실수있나여
2016-06-01 00:25 Fresh Chicken: 으음
2016-06-01 00:25 Kawawa: 전 저 상태로 유지를 원하는데
2016-06-01 00:25 Fresh Chicken: 음 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5282864이건 그닥 안예쁜데
2016-06-01 00:25 Kawawa: 이미 컨셉대로 주변 패턴과 짜여있어서
2016-06-01 00:25 Kawawa: 뭔가 아이디어가 필요할거같아여
2016-06-01 00:26 Kawawa: 굳
2016-06-01 00:26 Fresh Chicken: 뭔가 롱놋때문에 원핸드가 더 어려워질거같아서
2016-06-01 00:26 Kawawa: 저걸로 할게요
2016-06-01 00:26 Fresh Chicken: 오옹
2016-06-01 00:26 Fresh Chicken: 넹
2016-06-01 00:27 Fresh Chicken: 아 스펙터
2016-06-01 00:27 Fresh Chicken: PM왔네요시발
2016-06-01 00:27 Kawawa: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2016-06-01 00:28 Fresh Chicken: 01:09:257 - 음 뭐가 여기서부더
2016-06-01 00:28 Fresh Chicken: 1/4을 사용하기 시작하셨는데
2016-06-01 00:28 Fresh Chicken: 아니잠시만요
2016-06-01 00:28 Fresh Chicken: 위좀보고올게요
2016-06-01 00:28 Fresh Chicken: 아 아니에여
2016-06-01 00:28 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 00:28 Kawawa: 아아
2016-06-01 00:28 Kawawa: 메인드럼이에여
2016-06-01 00:29 Fresh Chicken: 네넹
2016-06-01 00:29 Kawawa: 01:10:469 (70469|6,70545|5,71681|2,71757|4) -
2016-06-01 00:29 Kawawa: 같은
2016-06-01 00:30 Fresh Chicken: 뭐 노비스도 그덕
2016-06-01 00:30 Fresh Chicken: 볼거는 없네요
2016-06-01 00:30 Fresh Chicken: 잘만드셨네여
2016-06-01 00:30 Fresh Chicken: 후
2016-06-01 00:30 Fresh Chicken: 체크할게없으면 불안해지는데
2016-06-01 00:30 Kawawa: ㅜㅜ
2016-06-01 00:30 Kawawa: 갠적인거
2016-06-01 00:30 Kawawa: 다 말하셔도되여
2016-06-01 00:30 Fresh Chicken: 아니여 그닥 갠적인것도없어요
2016-06-01 00:30 Fresh Chicken: 잘만드셔서
2016-06-01 00:30 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 00:30 Fresh Chicken: 후 어벤으로 가져
2016-06-01 00:31 Kawawa: 넹
2016-06-01 00:31 Kawawa: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/949607 toromaru - Enigma [ADVANCED]]
2016-06-01 00:33 Fresh Chicken: 00:13:045 - 여기있는 트릴들을 차라리
2016-06-01 00:33 Fresh Chicken: 00:13:121 - 아니 여기
2016-06-01 00:33 Fresh Chicken: 00:13:045 - 여기서 부터 시작하시는건 어떠세요
2016-06-01 00:33 Fresh Chicken: 좀 더 박자감있게?
2016-06-01 00:33 Kawawa: 음
2016-06-01 00:33 Kawawa: 거기에 3,4쪽에둔게
2016-06-01 00:33 Kawawa: 뙇!
2016-06-01 00:33 Fresh Chicken: 어 익퓨가 왜
2016-06-01 00:33 Fresh Chicken: 에니그마 보지
2016-06-01 00:33 Fresh Chicken: 아항
2016-06-01 00:33 Kawawa: 하고 터지는 그거라
2016-06-01 00:33 Kawawa: 엥?
2016-06-01 00:34 Kawawa: ㅇ;익퓨 어딨지
2016-06-01 00:34 Kawawa: 허진짜네
2016-06-01 00:34 Kawawa: 왜봐 쟨
2016-06-01 00:34 Fresh Chicken: 지금 owo 하나
2016-06-01 00:34 Fresh Chicken: 던져놓음여
2016-06-01 00:34 Kawawa: 저도 던져놓을까여
2016-06-01 00:34 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ그러졍
2016-06-01 00:34 Fresh Chicken: 야ㅓ
2016-06-01 00:34 Fresh Chicken: 어
2016-06-01 00:34 Fresh Chicken: 답장왔네여
2016-06-01 00:34 Fresh Chicken: 굳 맵
2016-06-01 00:35 Kawawa: 엥
2016-06-01 00:35 Kawawa: 그게 다에여?
2016-06-01 00:35 Fresh Chicken: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5282943
2016-06-01 00:35 Fresh Chicken: 네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 00:35 Fresh Chicken: 어 그래비티에
2016-06-01 00:35 Fresh Chicken: 모딩몆게 던져주네여
2016-06-01 00:36 Fresh Chicken: 그래비티로 가서 그거 보내드릴게요
2016-06-01 00:36 Fresh Chicken: 01:12:742 (72742|4) - 일관성문제로 하나의노트를 줄여라
2016-06-01 00:36 Fresh Chicken: 라네요
2016-06-01 00:36 Fresh Chicken: 이게끝이넴
2016-06-01 00:36 Fresh Chicken: 그럼다시 어벤으로 가져
2016-06-01 00:37 Kawawa: 넹
2016-06-01 00:37 Kawawa: 줄였어요 거기
2016-06-01 00:38 Fresh Chicken: 넹
2016-06-01 00:39 Fresh Chicken: 00:26:984 - 여기 3개쓰신 이유가있으신가요? 대부분 다 2개던데
2016-06-01 00:40 Kawawa: 00:26:984 - 원래 스네어에 2개를줬고
2016-06-01 00:40 Kawawa: 00:26:984 (26984|4,27136|5,27287|6) - 이게 피아노염
2016-06-01 00:40 Kawawa: 00:26:984 (26984|2,26984|0) - 이게 스네어
2016-06-01 00:40 Kawawa: 00:26:378 (26378|3,26378|1) - 이거와 같은
2016-06-01 00:40 Fresh Chicken: 아아 피아노도
2016-06-01 00:40 Fresh Chicken: 오케영
2016-06-01 00:41 Fresh Chicken: 00:50:924 - 여기도 여기만 다르게 두개쓰신 이유가있으신가요? 보면 다 피아노스트림 하나씩만 쓰시던데
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 00:50:924 (50924|1,50924|5,50999|2,51075|3,51151|4,51227|1,51227|5) -
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 음 이느낌에서 딱
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 00:50:924 -
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 딱 포인트 아웃이라고 해야하나
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 그래비티도
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 3개로 쓰긴했어여
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 그래서
2016-06-01 00:42 Fresh Chicken: 음
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 피아노음이
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 딱 강조된다고해야하나
2016-06-01 00:42 Kawawa: 이건 좀 해석하기 나름이라 보는 관점이
2016-06-01 00:42 Fresh Chicken: 음
2016-06-01 00:43 Kawawa: 다를거같긴해서 저도 불확실하긴 해여
2016-06-01 00:43 Kawawa: 근데 유지를 원해서
2016-06-01 00:43 Fresh Chicken: 카와님이 그렇게 느끼신다면야
2016-06-01 00:43 Fresh Chicken: 그냥 유지하졍
2016-06-01 00:43 Kawawa: 헉 감사합니당
2016-06-01 00:43 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 00:43 Fresh Chicken: 전 사소한거에 매달리는
2016-06-01 00:43 Fresh Chicken: 남자가 아닙니다
2016-06-01 00:43 Fresh Chicken: 그래서 300원 안갚은걸로 매일 쪼고있죠
2016-06-01 00:43 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 00:44 Kawawa: 00:34:863 (34863|6) -
2016-06-01 00:44 Kawawa: 이런건
2016-06-01 00:44 Kawawa: 괜찮으세요/
2016-06-01 00:44 Kawawa: 00:37:287 (37287|3) - 이런 부분같이 킥사운드에 저렇게 포인트 주긴했느데
2016-06-01 00:44 Fresh Chicken: 저거 아까 보니까 괜찮긴한데
2016-06-01 00:44 Fresh Chicken: 뭔가 노트 하나로는살짝 부족한감이
2016-06-01 00:45 Fresh Chicken: 있긴있었는뎀
2016-06-01 00:45 Fresh Chicken: 흠
2016-06-01 00:45 Fresh Chicken: 근데 유지도 괜찮고 하나씩 추가하셔도 괜찮고
2016-06-01 00:45 Kawawa: 흠
2016-06-01 00:45 Kawawa: 유지할게영 그럼
2016-06-01 00:45 Fresh Chicken: 넹
2016-06-01 00:45 Fresh Chicken: 뭔가 추가하면 패턴 짜놓은거 부서지실까봐
2016-06-01 00:45 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 00:45 Kawawa: ㄷㄷ
2016-06-01 00:46 Fresh Chicken: 01:05:772 (65772|2,65848|3,65924|4,65999|5,66075|6) - 얘네를 살짝 왼쪽으로 옮기거나 아래쪽 패턴 살짝 바꿔보는거 어떠세요?
2016-06-01 00:46 Fresh Chicken: 좀 오른손에 많이 치중되있는느낌인뎀
2016-06-01 00:46 Kawawa: 01:05:772 (65772|2) - 이거를 그러면 5로 주고
2016-06-01 00:47 Kawawa: 01:05:848 (65848|3,65924|4,65999|5,66075|6) - 이걸 1357로 넣을게요
2016-06-01 00:47 Fresh Chicken: 넹
2016-06-01 00:47 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pbCDW/a279e1169a.jpg
2016-06-01 00:47 Kawawa: 저런식으로 되게
2016-06-01 00:48 Fresh Chicken: 음 좋네영
2016-06-01 00:49 Fresh Chicken: 01:30:317 - 뭔가 얘네 끝나는지점에 하나씩 노트넣어줘도
2016-06-01 00:49 Fresh Chicken: 좋지않을까요?
2016-06-01 00:49 Fresh Chicken: (개인적 추천)
2016-06-01 00:49 Kawawa: 01:30:469 - 이런곳이여?
2016-06-01 00:49 Fresh Chicken: 넹넹
2016-06-01 00:49 Kawawa: 음 어떻게하지 고려는 해봤는데
2016-06-01 00:50 Fresh Chicken: 움
2016-06-01 00:50 Kawawa: 네 넣었어여
2016-06-01 00:50 Fresh Chicken: 네넹
2016-06-01 00:51 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pbCSC/f47ddc907d.jpg
2016-06-01 00:51 Fresh Chicken: 오 굳
2016-06-01 00:51 Fresh Chicken: 제가 생각한거랑 비슷하네염
2016-06-01 00:52 Kawawa: 아 근데 마지막에
2016-06-01 00:52 Kawawa: 제가 업데이트할땐 BG좀 ㅂ ㅏ꿔도될까요?
2016-06-01 00:52 Fresh Chicken: 음 어벤은 뭐 잡을게없네여
2016-06-01 00:52 Fresh Chicken: 어...
2016-06-01 00:52 Fresh Chicken: 안된다고 하면요?
2016-06-01 00:52 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 00:52 Kawawa: ㅠㅠㅠ
2016-06-01 00:52 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pbCZb/0a94715ef6.png
2016-06-01 00:52 Fresh Chicken: BG상관없졍
2016-06-01 00:53 Kawawa: 이거 뱀피르님이 에딧해주신거라
2016-06-01 00:53 Fresh Chicken: 오오오
2016-06-01 00:53 Fresh Chicken: 굳굳
2016-06-01 00:53 Fresh Chicken: 음 이제 익저로 가져
2016-06-01 00:53 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/946876 toromaru - Enigma [EXHAUST]]
2016-06-01 00:55 Fresh Chicken: 그러고보니
2016-06-01 00:55 Fresh Chicken: 그 스냅 문제 거기가
2016-06-01 00:55 Fresh Chicken: 어디져?
2016-06-01 00:56 Kawawa: 01:22:060 -
2016-06-01 00:56 Kawawa: 01:22:363 -
2016-06-01 00:56 Kawawa: 01:22:666 -
2016-06-01 00:56 Fresh Chicken: 저거 좀더 빠르게 소리가나는데
2016-06-01 00:56 Fresh Chicken: 음
2016-06-01 00:56 Kawawa: 근데 어떤 음악이든
2016-06-01 00:57 Kawawa: 어떤 악기가 미세하게 빠르게들릴떄 있긴한데
2016-06-01 00:57 Kawawa: 결국엔 다 같은 스냅일때 있자나여?
2016-06-01 00:57 Fresh Chicken: 그건 그렇졍
2016-06-01 00:57 Kawawa: 그런 경우일거같은데
2016-06-01 00:57 Kawawa: 흠
2016-06-01 00:57 Fresh Chicken: 에이 저거 누가체크해
2016-06-01 00:57 Kawawa: 이브닝한테
2016-06-01 00:57 Kawawa: 물어볼까
2016-06-01 00:57 Kawawa: 있나 지금?
2016-06-01 00:57 Fresh Chicken: 제생각에 첫번째는 1/3 나머지는 1/4같거든여
2016-06-01 00:57 Fresh Chicken: 어
2016-06-01 00:57 Fresh Chicken: 나갔네여
2016-06-01 00:57 Fresh Chicken: ㅅㅂ
2016-06-01 00:58 Kawawa: 하 슈발
2016-06-01 00:58 Kawawa: 꼭 필요할때없어
2016-06-01 00:58 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ저건
2016-06-01 00:58 Fresh Chicken: 뭐 얘들이 알아서 하겠져
2016-06-01 00:58 Kawawa: 우사기한테 함 물어볼까요?
2016-06-01 00:58 Fresh Chicken: 음 우사기도
2016-06-01 00:58 Fresh Chicken: 좋을듯여
2016-06-01 01:00 Kawawa: 제가 함
2016-06-01 01:00 Kawawa: 물어보고있을게여
2016-06-01 01:00 Fresh Chicken: s넹 전 그럼여기다가
2016-06-01 01:00 Fresh Chicken: 추천똥좀 싸고잇을게여
2016-06-01 01:00 Kawawa: 넹!
2016-06-01 01:02 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pbDzP/9f3685f5eb.png
2016-06-01 01:02 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pbDAt/f1b4df42d2.png
2016-06-01 01:03 Kawawa: 우사기도 4라고 하네여
2016-06-01 01:03 Fresh Chicken: 그럼 그냥 킵하져
2016-06-01 01:03 Kawawa: 저기에 흐르는 거의 안들리는 피아노도 4이고
2016-06-01 01:03 Kawawa: 01:22:666 (82666|4,82666|2,82666|0) - 특히 이게
2016-06-01 01:03 Kawawa: 그래비티에서
2016-06-01 01:04 Fresh Chicken: dma
2016-06-01 01:04 Fresh Chicken: 음
2016-06-01 01:04 Kawawa: 드럼하고 일치되야하는것도 제생각이라
2016-06-01 01:04 Kawawa: 저게 아니면 3하고4가
2016-06-01 01:04 Kawawa: 엇갈리거든여
2016-06-01 01:04 Kawawa: 드럼하고 피아노에서ㅏ
2016-06-01 01:04 Kawawa: 그리고 플레이문제도 없으니 4로 우선
2016-06-01 01:04 Kawawa: 킵해두져
2016-06-01 01:05 Fresh Chicken: 넹 그러져
2016-06-01 01:05 Fresh Chicken: 아 익저
2016-06-01 01:05 Fresh Chicken: 진짜 잡을거없는데
2016-06-01 01:05 Fresh Chicken: 어떡하지
2016-06-01 01:05 Kawawa: 정말여?
2016-06-01 01:06 Fresh Chicken: spd
2016-06-01 01:06 Fresh Chicken: 넹
2016-06-01 01:06 Kawawa: 01:07:893 (67893|6,68045|4,68196|6,68348|4) -
2016-06-01 01:06 Kawawa: 이건어떠세요?
2016-06-01 01:06 Fresh Chicken: 저거 괜찮지않아요?
2016-06-01 01:06 Fresh Chicken: 밑에도 보면
2016-06-01 01:06 Fresh Chicken: 같은 구간파트? 라고해야되나 그런데에다가
2016-06-01 01:06 Fresh Chicken: 다른방식으로 롱놋 넣ㄹ어두셨더넫
2016-06-01 01:06 Fresh Chicken: 저는 괜찮은거같아요
2016-06-01 01:06 Kawawa: 01:07:893 (67893|6,68045|4,68196|6,68348|4) - 이게 피아노같아여?
2016-06-01 01:07 Kawawa: 01:07:893 (67893|6,68045|4) - / 01:08:196 (68196|6,68348|4) -
2016-06-01 01:07 Kawawa: 이렇게 나눠지듯이
2016-06-01 01:07 Kawawa: 같은 피아노라
2016-06-01 01:07 Fresh Chicken: 네 메인 피아노 웅왕웅왕
2016-06-01 01:07 Fresh Chicken: 이런느낌들어여
2016-06-01 01:07 Kawawa: 넹
2016-06-01 01:08 Kawawa: 01:28:348 (88348|3,88424|4,88499|1,88499|5) -
2016-06-01 01:08 Kawawa: 이건 안거슬리시나여?
2016-06-01 01:08 Kawawa: 전 조금 불확실하긴한데 의견이 좀 필요해서
2016-06-01 01:08 Kawawa: 뭔가 변속떔시 더 짜증나지 않으려낭 저건
2016-06-01 01:08 Fresh Chicken: 01:28:499 (88499|5,88499|1,88651|1,88651|5) - 얘네 두개가 동시에 해머를 가지고 있기에 01:27:893 (87893|3,88348|3) - 얘도 그닥 거슬리는건 없는거같아요
2016-06-01 01:09 Kawawa: 01:28:424 - 여기 노트에3을
2016-06-01 01:09 Kawawa: 추가할까염
2016-06-01 01:09 Fresh Chicken: 지금도 괜찮지만 그것도 좋네영
2016-06-01 01:09 Kawawa: 뭔가 이상한가
2016-06-01 01:09 Fresh Chicken: 뭔가 역삼각형되니
2016-06-01 01:09 Fresh Chicken: 이쁘게생긴듯
2016-06-01 01:09 Kawawa: 추가할게염
2016-06-01 01:09 Fresh Chicken: 넹
2016-06-01 01:10 Fresh Chicken: 음 익저는 여기서 마무리할듯싶은데
2016-06-01 01:10 Fresh Chicken: 다른질문같은거
2016-06-01 01:10 Fresh Chicken: 있으신가여
2016-06-01 01:10 Kawawa: 없네영
2016-06-01 01:11 Fresh Chicken: 냉구롬
2016-06-01 01:11 Fresh Chicken: 중력을 보져
2016-06-01 01:12 Fresh Chicken: 아 저 나름 열심히 체크하는데 뭔가 대충하는느낌듬요
2016-06-01 01:12 Fresh Chicken: ㅠㅠ
2016-06-01 01:12 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:13 Fresh Chicken: 00:01:833 - 음 뭔가 여기 의도는 알듯싶은데 뭔가 노트를 줄이고 싶은 욕구가 크게드는데
2016-06-01 01:13 Fresh Chicken: 00:02:590 - 뭔가 이쪽하고 차이를 두는것도 좋을거같아요 (노트의 량)
2016-06-01 01:14 Kawawa: 00:01:378 (1378|3,1378|5,1530|2,1530|4,1681|1,1681|3,1833|2) -
2016-06-01 01:14 Kawawa: 근데 만약 이런식으로
2016-06-01 01:14 Kawawa: 남아버린다하면
2016-06-01 01:14 Kawawa: 뭔가 많이 모양새가 어수선해져서
2016-06-01 01:14 Fresh Chicken: 롱노트를 1로옮기시는것도 좋지않을까요?
2016-06-01 01:14 Kawawa: 01:38:802 -
2016-06-01 01:14 Kawawa: 이거하고 비슷한 이유일거에요
2016-06-01 01:15 Fresh Chicken: 저기두 있군여
2016-06-01 01:15 Fresh Chicken: 음
2016-06-01 01:15 Kawawa: 근데 이런방식으로 모든 난이도를
2016-06-01 01:15 Kawawa: 거의 고려된지라
2016-06-01 01:15 Fresh Chicken: 아하
2016-06-01 01:15 Kawawa: 아마 저기를 삭제하면
2016-06-01 01:15 Kawawa: 밑난이도하고 노트양에서
2016-06-01 01:15 Kawawa: 조금 변동사항이 생기지 않을까해여
2016-06-01 01:15 Kawawa: 근데 7키에서 3개건반 누른다는게
2016-06-01 01:15 Fresh Chicken: 그러면 일많아지니 킵하는게 좋을거같네여
2016-06-01 01:15 Kawawa: 4키에서는 밑져봐야 2개정도밖에 안되니
2016-06-01 01:15 Kawawa: 넹
2016-06-01 01:16 Fresh Chicken: 언랭사항도 아니니
2016-06-01 01:16 Fresh Chicken: 그냥 쮺쭊가져
2016-06-01 01:16 Kawawa: 뉑
2016-06-01 01:17 Fresh Chicken: 00:14:257 (14257|1,14257|0,14333|5,14333|6) - 차라리 얘네둘을 13 - 57로 바꾸는것도
2016-06-01 01:17 Fresh Chicken: 좋지않을까싶네영
2016-06-01 01:17 Kawawa: 아아 근데 저거는
2016-06-01 01:17 Kawawa: 유지하고싶어여
2016-06-01 01:17 Kawawa: 00:14:408 (14408|2,14484|4,14560|2,14636|4) - 이걸 유지하려는 의도도있고
2016-06-01 01:17 Kawawa: 00:14:257 (14257|0,14257|1) - 여기에 이 12를
2016-06-01 01:17 Kawawa: 스페이스바하고 붙지 않게끔
2016-06-01 01:17 Kawawa: 하려고 해서
2016-06-01 01:17 Fresh Chicken: 아하
2016-06-01 01:18 Fresh Chicken: 으 저걸 못봤네여
2016-06-01 01:18 Fresh Chicken: 어 리차드도
2016-06-01 01:18 Fresh Chicken: 븐됬나
2016-06-01 01:18 Kawawa: ??????//
2016-06-01 01:18 Kawawa: 무러ㅏ구여?
2016-06-01 01:18 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 아니
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 2명만된거아닌가
2016-06-01 01:19 Fresh Chicken: 아 되게 헷갈리네
2016-06-01 01:19 Fresh Chicken: 4명이래요
2016-06-01 01:19 Fresh Chicken: 쟤네 막 낚시함요
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 븐
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 아니네여
2016-06-01 01:19 Fresh Chicken: 음 그렇네영
2016-06-01 01:19 Fresh Chicken: 록타브가 공지를해야 확실히 알듯
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 최근에
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 모딩한것도
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 없어요
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 잔은
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 확실해요?
2016-06-01 01:19 Kawawa: 확실하게 2명밖에 없는거같은데
2016-06-01 01:20 Fresh Chicken: 네 잔은 달렸어요 뱃지
2016-06-01 01:20 Fresh Chicken: http://puu.sh/pbEDx/05a4361e88.jpg
2016-06-01 01:20 Fresh Chicken: 아니 얘네그럼 뭐하자는거죠지금
2016-06-01 01:20 Kawawa: 오
2016-06-01 01:20 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ뭐하는거여
2016-06-01 01:20 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:20 Fresh Chicken: 00:27:287 - 으 이거 예전부터
2016-06-01 01:20 Fresh Chicken: 뭔가 좀 불안불안한데
2016-06-01 01:20 Fresh Chicken: 여기 1/16있는거맞나요?
2016-06-01 01:20 Kawawa: 저건 근데 딜레이쪽이라서
2016-06-01 01:21 Fresh Chicken: 음 문제없을까요?
2016-06-01 01:21 Kawawa: 저거는 근데 문제가 없을거같은데
2016-06-01 01:21 Fresh Chicken: 그럼냅두져머
2016-06-01 01:23 Fresh Chicken: 음지금
2016-06-01 01:23 Fresh Chicken: 00:54:021 - 여기까지봤는데 그닥 문제가없네요
2016-06-01 01:23 Fresh Chicken: 01:02:136 (62136|3,62136|0,62136|4,62287|5,62287|1,62287|4,62363|3,62439|5,62439|6,62439|2) - 뭔가 얘네
2016-06-01 01:24 Fresh Chicken: 01:01:681 (61681|1,61681|0,61681|4,61833|5,61833|2,61833|1,61984|3,61984|2,61984|6) - 여기하고 차이좀 두는게 좋지않을까요?
2016-06-01 01:24 Fresh Chicken: 뭔가 자연스레 이어지는게아니라 조금씩 끊기는거같은뎀
2016-06-01 01:24 Fresh Chicken: 01:01:530 - 01:02:136 - 얘네가 끊기는부분들
2016-06-01 01:25 Kawawa: 저게
2016-06-01 01:25 Kawawa: 3개씩 묶어두는꼴로 만들긴했는데
2016-06-01 01:25 Kawawa: 음 전 저느낌이
2016-06-01 01:25 Kawawa: 좋은거같아여
2016-06-01 01:25 Fresh Chicken: 음 그러면 놔두졍
2016-06-01 01:25 Kawawa: 으 그 16스냅으로 딜레이 패턴으로 둔건
2016-06-01 01:25 Kawawa: 괜찮으세요?
2016-06-01 01:25 Fresh Chicken: 01:02:363 - 애 차라리 두개 쓰는게 낫지않을까여 익저도 두개던데
2016-06-01 01:25 Fresh Chicken: 그거 카와님이 킵하고싶으시다니
2016-06-01 01:25 Kawawa: 저기 확실히 딜레이 느낌은 나서 16으로 마감하긴 했는데
2016-06-01 01:25 Fresh Chicken: 뭔가 소리 울리는것도있고
2016-06-01 01:26 Kawawa: 네 그 느낌
2016-06-01 01:26 Kawawa: 따르긴헀어요
2016-06-01 01:26 Fresh Chicken: 전 카와님을 믿겠습니다
2016-06-01 01:26 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:26 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ넹
2016-06-01 01:27 Fresh Chicken: 저기위에 두개쓰는 추천은 어떠신가여
2016-06-01 01:27 Kawawa: 음
2016-06-01 01:27 Kawawa: 저게 솔직히말하면
2016-06-01 01:27 Kawawa: 이쁜패턴이 안나와서
2016-06-01 01:27 Kawawa: 노트 4쪽에 1개만 베이스드럼으로 두려고
2016-06-01 01:28 Kawawa: 저기 3마디로 계단 나눈 모양을
2016-06-01 01:28 Kawawa: 저렇게 하긴헀어여
2016-06-01 01:28 Kawawa: 음 추가하는게 나으려나
2016-06-01 01:28 Fresh Chicken: 음
2016-06-01 01:28 Fresh Chicken: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5283324
2016-06-01 01:28 Fresh Chicken: 하우 어바웃 디스
2016-06-01 01:28 Kawawa: ㅠㅠ 죄송해여
2016-06-01 01:28 Kawawa: 저는 유지해볼게용
2016-06-01 01:28 Fresh Chicken: 네넹
2016-06-01 01:29 Fresh Chicken: 01:03:045 - 여기는 뭔가 01:03:348 - 여기하고 차이를 두는게좋지않을까요?
2016-06-01 01:29 Fresh Chicken: 첫째에 추가하거나 둘째를 빼거나 하는식으루
2016-06-01 01:29 Kawawa: 오
2016-06-01 01:29 Kawawa: 03:348
2016-06-01 01:29 Kawawa: 여길뺼게요
2016-06-01 01:30 Fresh Chicken: 네넹
2016-06-01 01:30 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pbFfT/d59794be11.jpg
2016-06-01 01:30 Kawawa: 그리구 이렇게 변경해볼게요
2016-06-01 01:30 Fresh Chicken: 오 저것도 좋네요
2016-06-01 01:31 Kawawa: 01:22:666 (82666|4,82742|6) -
2016-06-01 01:31 Kawawa: 이건 생각했었는데
2016-06-01 01:31 Kawawa: 끝 롱놋을
2016-06-01 01:31 Kawawa: 01:22:893 -
2016-06-01 01:31 Kawawa: 여기까지 수정해도될까요
2016-06-01 01:31 Fresh Chicken: 네 저기도 깔끔한듯싶네여
2016-06-01 01:32 Fresh Chicken: 01:20:999 (80999|3) - 얘 소리있나여?
2016-06-01 01:33 Kawawa: 네
2016-06-01 01:33 Kawawa: 배경 피아노라고해야하나
2016-06-01 01:33 Kawawa: 잔잔한 피아노
2016-06-01 01:33 Fresh Chicken: 띵 ~웅~ 띵
2016-06-01 01:33 Fresh Chicken: 이거맞져?
2016-06-01 01:33 Kawawa: 아녀
2016-06-01 01:33 Kawawa: 올라가는 피아노인데
2016-06-01 01:33 Kawawa: advanced
2016-06-01 01:33 Kawawa: 참고하시면 아실거에여
2016-06-01 01:33 Fresh Chicken: 네 뭔가 웅웅잉
2016-06-01 01:33 Fresh Chicken: 하면서 올라가는거여
2016-06-01 01:34 Fresh Chicken: 표현력보소
2016-06-01 01:34 Fresh Chicken: ;
2016-06-01 01:34 Kawawa: 01:21:378 (81378|1,81454|3,81530|1,81681|1) - 그리고 이런부분들은 하이햇쪽 악기떔시 1개 더 추가해서
2016-06-01 01:34 Kawawa: 2개로했어요 괜찮낭려
2016-06-01 01:34 Fresh Chicken: 네 그닥 문제되보이지는않네여 익저두 1/2쪽은 다 두개니 ㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:35 Kawawa: 넹
2016-06-01 01:35 Fresh Chicken: 음 그래비티도
2016-06-01 01:35 Fresh Chicken: 이게 전부네여
2016-06-01 01:35 Fresh Chicken: 음 뭔가 추가적으로 질문이나
2016-06-01 01:36 Fresh Chicken: 고치신부분 있으신가여?
2016-06-01 01:36 Kawawa: 01:27:893 (87893|0,87893|4,88196|6,88196|5,88196|2,88196|1,88348|0,88348|4,88424|6,88424|2) -
2016-06-01 01:36 Kawawa: 이건 고내찮나여?
2016-06-01 01:36 Kawawa: 갠적으로 말없이 고친건 아직없어요
2016-06-01 01:36 Fresh Chicken: 거기 약간 거슬리긴했는데
2016-06-01 01:36 Fresh Chicken: 음 괜찮은거같긴한데
2016-06-01 01:36 Kawawa: 변속으로 칠떄
2016-06-01 01:37 Fresh Chicken: 솔직히 변속이 약간
2016-06-01 01:37 Fresh Chicken: 초견살인마긴해요이게
2016-06-01 01:37 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:37 Kawawa: 맞아
2016-06-01 01:37 Kawawa: 근데 2,3번치면
2016-06-01 01:37 Kawawa: 외워지거든여
2016-06-01 01:37 Fresh Chicken: 근데 노래알면은 다쳐지는 변속이라서ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:37 Fresh Chicken: 네네
2016-06-01 01:37 Kawawa: 외워치는 변속이라고 해야하나
2016-06-01 01:37 Kawawa: 초견살인마 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:37 Fresh Chicken: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:37 Kawawa: 아 저도 바꿀건없어요
2016-06-01 01:37 Kawawa: 근데 그전에
2016-06-01 01:38 Kawawa: 하나 제가 퀄파 체크 bn한테
2016-06-01 01:38 Kawawa: 한가지 논의하려고 한게이쓴데
2016-06-01 01:38 Kawawa: 전에 말씀드린
2016-06-01 01:38 Fresh Chicken: 아 네네
2016-06-01 01:38 Kawawa: Toromaru or toromaru
2016-06-01 01:38 Kawawa: 그러나 아무거나 써도 된다고는 했거든요?
2016-06-01 01:38 Fresh Chicken: 그거 쓰레드에 올리시면 될거같아요
2016-06-01 01:38 Kawawa: 아녀아녀 아직
2016-06-01 01:38 Kawawa: 근데
2016-06-01 01:38 Fresh Chicken: 그 븐문제에서도 있었자나여 작곡가와의 직접적인 연락은 제너럴 체크에 혀옹된다
2016-06-01 01:38 Fresh Chicken: 네
2016-06-01 01:38 Kawawa: 막상 굳이 통일하자면
2016-06-01 01:38 Kawawa: T로 써야할거같기도 한데
2016-06-01 01:39 Kawawa: https://remywiki.com/Enigma
2016-06-01 01:39 Kawawa: 여기보면 Toromaru로 되어있긴한데
2016-06-01 01:39 Kawawa: 다른 penoreri같은것도
2016-06-01 01:39 Kawawa: 여기서 랜덤 캡피탈 안되어있거든여
2016-06-01 01:39 Fresh Chicken: 음
2016-06-01 01:39 Kawawa: 정확히 penoreri로 되어있기도하고
2016-06-01 01:39 Fresh Chicken: 그럼 Toromaru가 되야할거같은데요?
2016-06-01 01:39 Fresh Chicken: 그리고 쓰레드에 그것도 올려주시구
2016-06-01 01:40 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/pbFOg/0980da4039.png
2016-06-01 01:40 Fresh Chicken: 음
2016-06-01 01:40 Fresh Chicken: 그럼 Toromaru 로 가야되는거아닌가여?
2016-06-01 01:40 Kawawa: 흠
2016-06-01 01:41 Fresh Chicken: 어차피 작곡가가 말한것도있꼬
2016-06-01 01:41 Fresh Chicken: 레미위키도있으니
2016-06-01 01:41 Kawawa: 레미위키가
2016-06-01 01:41 Kawawa: 믿을만한가요?
2016-06-01 01:41 Fresh Chicken: 보통 레미위키 체크많이하더라구요 븐들이
2016-06-01 01:41 Fresh Chicken: 근데 어차피 소문자 대문자 둘다상관없으니
2016-06-01 01:41 Kawawa: 아 그러면
2016-06-01 01:41 Kawawa: T로 바꾸죠
2016-06-01 01:41 Kawawa: 그거 증거 올리고
2016-06-01 01:41 Fresh Chicken: 퀄파후에 막 시비터는거 막는것도 귀찮으니
2016-06-01 01:41 Fresh Chicken: 네 그러져
2016-06-01 01:41 Fresh Chicken: 그럼 업뎃해주세여
2016-06-01 01:42 Kawawa: 아 그전에
2016-06-01 01:42 Fresh Chicken: 네넹
2016-06-01 01:42 Kawawa: OD HP
2016-06-01 01:42 Kawawa: 좀 변경해도될까요 전부
2016-06-01 01:42 Kawawa: 의견좀 나누려하는데
2016-06-01 01:42 Kawawa: BASIC 7/7 유지할거궁
2016-06-01 01:42 Kawawa: NOVICE부터 좀 손보려구여
2016-06-01 01:42 Kawawa: 어떻게 생각하세요
2016-06-01 01:42 Kawawa: 전 GRAVITY가 OD 8.3 HP 9.0
2016-06-01 01:42 Kawawa: 원하거든여
2016-06-01 01:42 Fresh Chicken: 원하신다면 원하시는대루 바꾸셔도 괜찮은데 그러면
2016-06-01 01:42 Fresh Chicken: 익저도 8 8.5로
2016-06-01 01:43 Fresh Chicken: 올리시는게 좋을듯
2016-06-01 01:43 Fresh Chicken: 어벤은 그냥 HP만 8로 해두시궁
2016-06-01 01:43 Kawawa: 노비스 7.5 7.5
2016-06-01 01:43 Kawawa: 어드밴스드 7.8 8.0
2016-06-01 01:43 Kawawa: 익저스트 8.0 8.5
2016-06-01 01:43 Kawawa: 그래비티 8.3 9.0
2016-06-01 01:43 Kawawa: 이거여?
2016-06-01 01:43 Fresh Chicken: 아 노비스도 7.5가 되는구나
2016-06-01 01:44 Fresh Chicken: 네 그렇게여
2016-06-01 01:45 Fresh Chicken: 네 이제 업뎃 쿠다사이
2016-06-01 01:45 Kawawa: 아 좀
2016-06-01 01:45 Kawawa: 8.3괜찮으려나
2016-06-01 01:45 Kawawa: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2016-06-01 01:45 Kawawa: 아 어떡하지
2016-06-01 01:45 Kawawa: 8이 나을라나
2016-06-01 01:45 Fresh Chicken: 음
2016-06-01 01:45 Fresh Chicken: 6.43
2016-06-01 01:45 Fresh Chicken: 근데롱놋도좀있어서
2016-06-01 01:46 Fresh Chicken: 8이 괜찮을거같기도하고
2016-06-01 01:46 Fresh Chicken: 음전 둘다 OK인뎀
2016-06-01 01:46 Kawawa: 아아 8로할게여
2016-06-01 01:46 Kawawa: 익저스트도 8로할까여 그럼?
2016-06-01 01:46 Fresh Chicken: 넹
2016-06-01 01:46 Kawawa: 아까 바꾼거에서 그냥
2016-06-01 01:46 Kawawa: 그래비티 OD 8.3을 8로
2016-06-01 01:46 Fresh Chicken: 익저도 8로해도 별문제없겠네요
2016-06-01 01:46 Kawawa: 네
2016-06-01 01:47 Kawawa: 업데되면 알려드릴게영
2016-06-01 01:47 Fresh Chicken: 넹
Aruel
어라!? 흥부가 다리를 고쳐줬던 까치가 흥부의 앞에 작은 퀄리파이 씨앗을 두고 떠났어요!
Topic Starter
Kawawa

Fresh Chicken wrote:

어라!? 흥부가 다리를 고쳐줬던 까치가 흥부의 앞에 작은 퀄리파이 씨앗을 두고 떠났어요!
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정말 감사합니다!!
그리고 도와주신 모든 서포터 분들께 진심으로 감사드립니다.
Sandalphon
FC's first qualified icon
Akasha-
Congratulation Kawawa
I'm sorry i can't make it in time
SpectorDG
hue nice congratz~ KFC"s first Qualfy
Reba
추카해 엉아야
-SoraGami-
nice Grats~
Feerum
So Kawawa took FC's virginity so fast. Oh my..

Grats :D
Vampir
wooooooooooooWooooooWooooooooooWoooooooWOooooooo

에니그마 머쪄용
[ Raphael ]
Adot
congratulation!!
Kyousuke-
grats kawawa! hype more 7k maps~~
Kamikaze
I wasn't going to post at this, but then I realized that nobody will do that for me so I have to do it myself.
So, I want to bring up to question this part in gravity 01:15:772 -

First problem is that the LNs 01:15:772 (75772|6,76984|0) - aren't mapped to anything in particular and are just there for no real reason. This creates another problem, which is inconsistent and awkward anchors thoughout the sections, namely: 01:15:924 (75924|5,76151|5,76378|5,76530|5,76681|5,76908|5) - (3/4 gap - 3/4 - 1/2 - 1/2 - 1/2 - 3/4 01:15:722 (75722|3,75848|3,76075|3,76227|3,76530|3,76757|3) - (first double anchor 5/12 apart, second double 1/4 apart) 01:16:984 (76984|1,77211|1,77363|1,77514|1,77666|1,77817|1,78045|1,78196|1) - (single alongside LN, coming out of a triple - empty space - five note long anchor - double) 01:16:984 (76984|3,77136|3,77287|3,77514|3,77742|3,77893|3,78045|3) - (triple - empty space - single - empty space - triple
There's also a problem of 1/4 shield at 01:15:772 (75772|6,77060|6) - that creates issues with reading, but that's a minor thing in the whole scheme of things

Also it's worth noting that SR of this diff is 6,43* and with those two LNs deleted it drops down to 5,92*. I feel like this is purposeful, but oh well.

What I suggest doing to keep this section actually coherent with the rest of the map is to delete those unneeded LNs, and spread out patterns in a way that is implied that it should be, which I'll show in a screen:
the chordstreams
01:15:772 - 01:16:984 -


01:16:984 - 01:18:196 -

This needs to be at least discussed properly before moving this map forward.
Topic Starter
Kawawa

-Kamikaze- wrote:

I wasn't going to post at this, but then I realized that nobody will do that for me so I have to do it myself.
So, I want to bring up to question this part in gravity 01:15:772 -

First problem is that the LNs 01:15:772 (75772|6,76984|0) - aren't mapped to anything in particular and are just there for no real reason. This creates another problem, which is inconsistent and awkward anchors thoughout the sections, namely: 01:15:924 (75924|5,76151|5,76378|5,76530|5,76681|5,76908|5) - (3/4 gap - 3/4 - 1/2 - 1/2 - 1/2 - 3/4 01:15:722 (75722|3,75848|3,76075|3,76227|3,76530|3,76757|3) - (first double anchor 5/12 apart, second double 1/4 apart) 01:16:984 (76984|1,77211|1,77363|1,77514|1,77666|1,77817|1,78045|1,78196|1) - (single alongside LN, coming out of a triple - empty space - five note long anchor - double) 01:16:984 (76984|3,77136|3,77287|3,77514|3,77742|3,77893|3,78045|3) - (triple - empty space - single - empty space - triple
All the mapper has to make the perfect structure with respect to all the regular sections? for term?
It's different surely. when players read a pattern,
and can see like this, http://puu.sh/pdcCx/ecaef3ab24.png // http://puu.sh/pdcGz/58019afb96.png
And If I suppose to place the LN's at col4(space), It would be symmetric pattern as usual.
All should be these consistent pattern? That's too bad then


There's also a problem of 1/4 shield at 01:15:772 (75772|6,77060|6) - that creates issues with reading, but that's a minor thing in the whole scheme of things

about two LNs, there is a intention.
First, 01:13:802 - ~ 01:18:196 - About this part, I do not think this gives out a heavy feeling nor has unnecessary notes in that process.
this part can rely on each piano and drums dividing it into 3 parts.
like 01:13:348 - ~ 01:15:772 - // 01:15:772 - ~ 01:16:984 - // 01:16:984 - ~ 01:18:196 -
Just like this, each one of these has its musical structures elevating up, If I try to explain about what you are saying,
01:15:772 (75772|6) - 01:16:984 (76984|0) - These two long notes are the representation of the one piano bundle of this section.
so can consider with lower diff's. And each notes that follow that are the representation of the elevating density of the drums too.
Long Notes, it is different depending on how you think of it.
If I make a general example :: Even if there are vocal, background instruments.
at the same time can use 1/8 snap drum rolls, or one of piano flowing sounds as a long note in low difficulties.
The problem of long notes is either you can feel it as a "Long sound" or not.
01:13:802 - ~ 01:15:772 - also I could use the LNs, but did not.
And I can certainly feel this in this particular part.
I really don't think you considered with different difficulty level and structure of the whole. play as well.
when I saw, you just spot it. and when I applied the yours suggestion as test.
I felt more awkward. That's too light than feeling from start to end.


Also it's worth noting that SR of this diff is 6,43* and with those two LNs deleted it drops down to 5,92*. I feel like this is purposeful, but oh well.
yeah, I had a purpose the spread "1.0, 1.2, 1.4, 1.6" on Each SR 1.2 / 2.24 / 3.42 / 4.83 / 6.43

What I suggest doing to keep this section actually coherent with the rest of the map is to delete those unneeded LNs, and spread out patterns in a way that is implied that it should be, which I'll show in a screen:
the chordstreams
01:15:772 - 01:16:984 -


01:16:984 - 01:18:196 -

About the your suggest pattern(the chordstreams) without LNs,
You did not say on above? like ▽

First problem is that the LNs 01:15:772 (75772|6,76984|0) - aren't mapped to anything in particular and are just there for no real reason. This creates another problem, which is inconsistent and awkward anchors thoughout the sections
I have to do say something, these yours suggestion are not big difference in what you said that "inconsistent, awkward anchors"
I don't think right that your inconsistent and awkward anchors logic for the above mention.


This needs to be at least discussed properly before moving this map forward.
I have made earlier with all the opinion in advance about this.
Bubbler
Just a comment on the LNs Kamikaze questioned about:

When actually playing the map, I didn't find the LNs (+ other notes at the part) annoying or awkward; rather, they smoothly lead to the final highlight section and add some fun to the whole map. (Well, it's more than that, but I couldn't find a suitable expression for the good feel with the LNs.) Many players (like me) don't care much about those anchors or 1/4 shield or whatever, as long as the patterns are playable, understandable and fun.

Btw, I already achieved FC on the map without too much problem and I like this map sooooo much :D
Jinjin

Bubbler wrote:

Just a comment on the LNs Kamikaze questioned about:

When actually playing the map, I didn't find the LNs (+ other notes at the part) annoying or awkward; rather, they smoothly lead to the final highlight section and add some fun to the whole map. (Well, it's more than that, but I couldn't find a suitable expression for the good feel with the LNs.) Many players (like me) don't care much about those anchors or 1/4 shield or whatever, as long as the patterns are playable, understandable and fun.

Btw, I already achieved FC on the map without too much problem and I like this map sooooo much :D
100% agree with this. I don't think it adds anything awkward to the map, everything looks and plays well.
DeletedUser_259972
I don't find problem on that LN thing imo

As Kawawa said,

Kawawa wrote:

this part can rely on each piano and drums dividing it into 3 parts.
like 01:13:348 - ~ 01:15:772 - // 01:15:772 - ~ 01:16:984 - // 01:16:984 - ~ 01:18:196 -
Just like this, each one of these has its musical structures elevating up, If I try to explain about what you are saying,
01:15:772 (75772|6) - 01:16:984 (76984|0) - These two long notes are the representation of the one piano bundle of this section.
so can consider with lower diff's. And each notes that follow that are the representation of the elevating density of the drums too.
The "elevating" feel to it
That is my most favorite explanation of the pattern.
It feels like it's elevating with the music when I'm playing it.

Bubbler wrote:

When actually playing the map, I didn't find the LNs (+ other notes at the part) annoying or awkward; rather, they smoothly lead to the final highlight section and add some fun to the whole map. (Well, it's more than that, but I couldn't find a suitable expression for the good feel with the LNs.) Many players (like me) don't care much about those anchors or 1/4 shield or whatever, as long as the patterns are playable, understandable and fun.
I agree.
Sure, it might be more comfortable without LN, but even with LN, it doesn't feel uncomfortable at all.

I chatted with Kawawa about this pattern, about the "piano bundled" LN thing.
Kawawa said he used the LN in these parts too 00:28:499 - 00:32:136 -
So why is it problem?

If you're complaining because too many notes are in the part with one column occupied with LN, and is hard to hit because of 1/4 shield or whatever,
not at all as Bubbler said.
01:15:772 - ~ 01:16:984 - This part feels like one-way stair and
01:16:984 - ~ 01:18:196 - This part feels like back-and-forth stair.
So it's much more comfortable to play than you think.

Again, I don't find any problem on this map.
pporse
i don't know why is it issue @_@..

kami's suggestion is good. i think that it is nice pattern.

but It is not the reason that it should not use LN.

that's a mapper's unique pattern, so can't be point out whole if it's really not unrankable.

we need to respect the mapper's structure.

kawa's original pattern is also good. i hope that it keeps on the original pattern.

and i think that this map is deserved for 6.4*
Akasha-

Kawawa wrote:

All the mapper has to make the perfect structure with respect to all the regular sections? for term?
It's different surely. when players read a pattern,
and can see like this, http://puu.sh/pdcCx/ecaef3ab24.png // http://puu.sh/pdcGz/58019afb96.png
And If I suppose to place the LN's at col4(space), It would be symmetric pattern as usual.
All should be these consistent pattern? That's too bad then
Totally argeed, better not to follow something too framework, that would make the map have no souls.

Anyway

Kawawa wrote:

about two LNs, there is a intention.
First, 01:13:802 - ~ 01:18:196 - About this part, I do not think this gives out a heavy feeling nor has unnecessary notes in that process.
this part can rely on each piano and drums dividing it into 3 parts.
like 01:13:348 - ~ 01:15:772 - // 01:15:772 - ~ 01:16:984 - // 01:16:984 - ~ 01:18:196 -
Just like this, each one of these has its musical structures elevating up, If I try to explain about what you are saying,
01:15:772 (75772|6) - 01:16:984 (76984|0) - These two long notes are the representation of the one piano bundle of this section.
so can consider with lower diff's. And each notes that follow that are the representation of the elevating density of the drums too.
Long Notes, it is different depending on how you think of it.
If I make a general example :: Even if there are vocal, background instruments.
at the same time can use 1/8 snap drum rolls, or one of piano flowing sounds as a long note in low difficulties.
The problem of long notes is either you can feel it as a "Long sound" or not.
01:13:802 - ~ 01:15:772 - also I could use the LNs, but did not.
And I can certainly feel this in this particular part.
I really don't think you considered with different difficulty level and structure of the whole. play as well.
when I saw, you just spot it. and when I applied the yours suggestion as test.
I felt more awkward. That's too light than feeling from start to end.
Somehow, this part is really fit with rhythm well, even patterns flowing well and comfortable to play
But I do think 01:15:772 (75772|6) - is follow piano sound and 01:15:772 (75772|0,75772|1,75772|4,75848|3,75924|5,75924|1,75924|2,75999|4,76075|3,76075|0,76075|2,76151|5,76227|1,76227|3,76227|4,76302|0,76378|4,76378|2,76378|5,76454|1,76530|3,76530|5,76530|0,76605|2,76681|4,76681|1,76681|5,76757|3,76833|1,76833|2,76908|5,76908|4) - are follow drum, and piano flow too
also for 01:16:984 (76984|0) - it's recym sound, , it's fine to put it on here, because why not, it's hardest diff of the set so just let it here, if it reason enough, but according to Kawawa, this part also following piano so i quite argee and like to keep it here
01:15:722 (75722|3,75848|3) - and also for this, 01:15:620 - this part actually fits with rhythm well, like, just look at it, pitch on here is going up (piano) and this patterns showed it very well, and for 01:15:848 (75848|3) - , both are also fine and comfortable to play, on that timing, pitching is going down, however, that may get a little confused from being 1/6 to 1/4 but reversed compared with pitch already good enough

TL;DR: I don't really find any issues which make this part really awkwarded to play with, however, it's more than comfortable
I also like Kami's suggestion about that part, which is more easy to catch them but I quite argee with Kawawa that better to keep it, as long as it's reasonable and fits with the rhythm well
Each mappers have their own opinions! And I find this part is fine enough to pass the ranked section
I found no unrankable issues containing on here too

Best of luck

P.s: can someone please fix star rating?
Harbyter
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