Hara Yumi - BANG! BANG! - short ver. - · forum

Bara-

Joined April 2013

Bara- 2016-06-26T11:18:54+00:00

I'm still not completely sure about the lowest diffs, but that is because it isn't my style. I'm open to different mapping styles, so I'll bubble it, since I don't have real problems with it.
However, in case it gets popped (over any of these 3 lowest diffs) don't call me back until the popper has rebubbled/informed me it's fine (unless it's due to an "objective" issue I missed)

Anyways, Bubbled

Vivyanne

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Joined December 2013

Vivyanne 2016-06-26T12:23:51+00:00

githyped!

BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-06-26T12:23:52+00:00

~~Btw I'm outta town for a moment (maybe around 2 weeks), so I can't properly find BNs who will try to rank this. I'll try searching as soon as I'm home~~

EDIT :
Ok I'm back home now

FYI : "DEATH" is how the way she says "desu"

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Ciyus Miapah

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Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2016-07-04T08:46:03+00:00

BigEarsMau wrote:

LOL

Bara-

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Joined April 2013

Bara- 2016-07-04T09:04:55+00:00

Omg never noticed the image

lit120

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Joined August 2013

lit120 2016-07-05T01:32:53+00:00

BigEarsMau wrote:

Well ummm.....

HappyRocket88

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Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-07-09T15:53:16+00:00

From my queue... HUH!? Never expected this to get bubbled so soon. o:

Placeholding for a mod. :3

BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-14T10:08:27+00:00

I ain't dead (..........yet)

Been searching for BNs for the past 2 weeks and still no luck

I swear if somebody actually rank this, I promise I'll post a picture of Norman Reedus hugging their profile pics

Also, I made a frickin banner because I'm a bored ass piece of shit

RIP font size

Still waiting, Happy

I forgot to mention how hot Ekoro is :3

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Vivyanne

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Joined December 2013

Vivyanne 2016-07-14T10:11:23+00:00

Sik banner, but why isn't Panda King's nickname on it xd

BigEarsMau

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Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-14T10:13:13+00:00

~~Fuck me I forgot. Gonna add him right away~~

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HappyRocket88

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Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-07-15T04:37:51+00:00

Sorry for the late orz Classes started and I got 0 free time. ;w; Sorry for ugly formatting

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things you should consider
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suggestions

[General]

Would you mind managing a higher volume on the kiai section to make it differ from the other sections?

[Normal]

00:05:056 - This spot feel really weird without any note when there's clearly a drum sound here. Wouldn't it be better if you add a note there to fix this issue up?
00:09:569 (1,2) - 00:11:693 (1,2) - Leaving these 1/1 gaps here will mislead the current transition among the notes and since this difficulty is aimed as the easiest of the mapset. It would be better if you make these sliders 00:11:693 (1) - 00:09:569 (1) - to repeat themselves instead to improve significantly the transition here. What do you think?
Reduce the Overall Difficulty in -0.5 to keep consistency in the way it increases among the difficulties.
00:51:781 - I see what you intended to do here but I don't think skipping this beat when the instruments are really promising is a good idea. The way I see things, it would be way better if you emphasized this spot so players will follow nicely the combination of vocals and instrument here. Consider doing the same here 00:59:215 - 01:00:277 - In this section I suggest you to try out this rhythm instead to improve the transtion of this rhythm here. Try it!
00:18:994 (2,3) - Weren't these supposed to be doing a fancy blanket between each other? I mean, it would hurt no one if place them like this to improve slightly how players would look at at this pattern. Like this. Please, give it a try! :3
00:43:551 (3) - Add a NC here to keep consistency in the way you managed the new combos each new stanza.
00:43:684 (1) - Add a whistle here to not have this spinner with no sounds on it.

[Advanced] I honestly didn't have much complains about this one. It's quite neat and I like it. >u<)/

00:24:171 (3,1) - vs 00:32:667 (3,1) - Variation is important but not when both of patterns are almost the same. Wouldn't ot be better if you make thm uniform? Either with the stack or the non-stack could fit well. I'd go for the stack personally. :3
00:32:667 (3,1) - Add anote here for consistency as well as you did here 01:00:277 -
01:05:720 - Please, make this spot clickeable since it's the one of the strongest beats here and as it is now, feels unnatural.

[Hard]

00:05:985 (3,1) - There's currently a program with these 1/1 and 1/2 stacks because some of them aren't really predictable. Hence, players might lose their combos because they can't really tell if objects are accordingly snapped to the beats. Therefore, I heavily suggest to avoid using 1/1 stacks in this difficulty to improve significantly the transitions of the patterns here. Same occurs here 00:08:905 (2,3) -
00:18:596 (3,4) - Avoid using these hidden stacks since they play rather awkward due to players can't really tell the correct snapping with them. Consider removing it from this too 00:56:693 (2,3) -
00:20:189 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm really sorry but this plays somewhat strange. Music suggests drums are being emphasized here so giving it a motion of flow of the sliders would fit better. What about this? I do believe there's other things you can come out if you consider changing this pattern. Give it a try!
00:35:985 - Add a note here as well as you did in the upcoming pattern.
00:44:613 (5) - NC here. Consider doing the same over the following cases 00:50:985 (5) - 00:55:366 (4) - 00:04:259 (4) -
00:49:658 (4,1) - This flows somewhat forced comparing with how smoothly the previous pattern were snapped. I think if you put it here like this would suit the pattern the best.
00:55:764 (5) - Blends with the video. Plus, it's almost invisible because the Approach Rather doesn't cover allow players to realize that slider is snapped under 00:54:967 (3) - Would you mind placing them somewhere else?

[HighTec's Insane] ehhh! I still doubt you a mod. x.x

00:04:790 (3,4) - Minot but there would look aesthetically better if they did a blanket with the previous sliders with 1/2 of length
00:21:118 (4) - I know this was placed for stack purposes but frankly saying the jump that created these two notes is rather big 00:20:720 (3,4) - would it be better if you make 00:20:720 (3) - a simple curve slider? I do believe something like this would fit nicely here and would avoid managing such as higher spacing among the notes.
00:22:578 (3,4,5) - Would you mind managing the same Distance Snap here? Quite weird this triangle pattern ends being a bit untidy due the inconsistency of spacing.
00:31:737 (1,2) - While I do respect the blanket pattern you made here, I'm afraid I disagree with this pattern being a good idea. The problem is that players might think the circle is snapped to the blue tick because of the spacing. Could you consider increasing the spacing here a bit?
00:33:330 (2) - Ctrl + G here to improve the flow. As it is now it feels way forced since the direction of the sliders don't really tell where the next object will be placed.
00:47:534 (4) - This kick-slider isn't really needed in the section since the 1/4 tiucks are barely audible in the song and aren't supported by this pattern.
01:05:720 - Would you mind making this beat clickeable?

[Panda's Extra]

Really quite fun difficulty! Nonetheless, I don't think the high AR such as 9.5 would fit here. The reason I say that is because the patterns and the overall density on how fast the objects appear don't really deserve getting that high AR. what about reducing it to 9.2 - 9.3?
00:27:888 (5) - Replace this with a circle as well as you did in the previous stanza here 00:21:516 (7) -
00:45:543 (4,1) - Spacing here is weird. Thus, this woulc make players lose their combos because according to the motion given before, it would suit better if it were a jump.

[Strategas' Exctasy Shot] waaa.... pro! XD I don't know how you managed to make such as a fun difficulty with that CS! Good job!

I really liked how you mapped this difficulty but AR 9.7 is way too much for this. As same as I stated on Panda's difficulty, reducing it here to 9.5 would fit this difficulty the best.
01:07:976 - 5% of volume here pls, just as well as the other difficulties do it.
00:19:658 (3,4) - vs 00:28:153 (4,5) - Variation is important but i don't think making these section different would make sense here. The way I see things, It would be way better if you made both section similar to emphasize nicely the pauses as well as you did here 00:27:888 (3,4,5) -
00:27:091 (4,5) - Would you mind increasing the spacing here? I find it quite questionable to use such as low spacing when the previous pattern managed higher distance snap.
Shouldn't the triplet go here 00:34:127 (2) - as well as you did in the previous 00:33:065 (2,3,4) - stanza? Somewhat weird to leave to place it there 00:34:392 (4,5,6) - when the triplets is barely audible. ;w;

Call me back for a recheck!

Strategas

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Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-07-16T10:35:56+00:00

[Strategas' Exctasy Shot] waaa.... pro! XD I don't know how you managed to make such as a fun difficulty with that CS! Good job!
I really liked how you mapped this difficulty but AR 9.7 is way too much for this. As same as I stated on Panda's difficulty, reducing it here to 9.5 would fit this difficulty the best. I disagree, because this bpm and some places has too high note density like 00:03:197 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 00:32:932 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - for me rn it's perfect feel mb could even use higher lol
01:07:976 - 5% of volume here pls, just as well as the other difficulties do it. reduced to 15, still feel it's audible sound that shouldn't be silenced completely
00:19:658 (3,4) - vs 00:28:153 (4,5) - Variation is important but i don't think making these section different would make sense here. The way I see things, It would be way better if you made both section similar to emphasize nicely the pauses as well as you did here 00:27:888 (3,4,5) - the reason for that might sound dumb, but I only did it like this because mapping 00:19:259 - felt really dumb to me as a clickable object compared to 00:27:755 - where actual vocal exist, I tried to make it like that other one but just didn't feel good to me
00:27:091 (4,5) - Would you mind increasing the spacing here? I find it quite questionable to use such as low spacing when the previous pattern managed higher distance snap. it's to emphasize 00:27:489 (1) - better, and it would break my structure a bit if I moved it further from that object
Shouldn't the triplet go here 00:34:127 (2) - as well as you did in the previous 00:33:065 (2,3,4) - stanza? Somewhat weird to leave to place it there 00:34:392 (4,5,6) - when the triplets is barely audible. ;w; picked the beats that seemed strongest and used them as tripples, like compare 00:34:193 - and 00:33:131 - and you'll see why I mapped tripples inconsisntently here lol

Call me back for a recheck!

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BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-16T18:55:59+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
Sorry for the late orz Classes started and I got 0 free time. ;w; Sorry for ugly formatting That's ok! I really appreciate it that you helped me

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[General]
Would you mind managing a higher volume on the kiai section to make it differ from the other sections? Since I used a very minimal-sounding hitsound (a deep, short thud), it doesn't really make that much of a difference when I turned up the volume
[Normal]
00:05:056 - This spot feel really weird without any note when there's clearly a drum sound here. Wouldn't it be better if you add a note there to fix this issue up? You're right. I forgot about this part
00:09:569 (1,2) - 00:11:693 (1,2) - Leaving these 1/1 gaps here will mislead the current transition among the notes and since this difficulty is aimed as the easiest of the mapset. It would be better if you make these sliders 00:11:693 (1) - 00:09:569 (1) - to repeat themselves instead to improve significantly the transition here. What do you think? While your recommendation does improve the transitions between patterns and the overall flow, I have to disagree because seeing this from the overall gameplay viewpoint, I found the "repeating sliders" that you've been suggesting is not as fun to play with since they lack a dynamic design and just too monotonous to get through. I mapped the patterns this way to match the song's fast, upbeat nature and in order to accommodate that, the patterns has to be vibrant and diverse in design and placement but also simple to play through. A 4-repeat slider pattern like you've suggested is a considerable candidate for this part of the song, but I found that a bit dull in my personal opinion
Reduce the Overall Difficulty in -0.5 to keep consistency in the way it increases among the difficulties. At first, I disagree with the decison, but thinking about it again, I feel that this song is just too fast and a bit challenging to hit with OD 3.5 for newer players. So, OD 3 it is
00:51:781 - I see what you intended to do here but I don't think skipping this beat when the instruments are really promising is a good idea. The way I see things, it would be way better if you emphasized this spot so players will follow nicely the combination of vocals and instrument here. Consider doing the same here 00:59:215 - 01:00:277 - In this section I suggest you to try out this rhythm instead to improve the transtion of this rhythm here. Try it! I think you're right! The rhythm you've suggested does play a bit better
00:18:994 (2,3) - Weren't these supposed to be doing a fancy blanket between each other? I mean, it would hurt no one if place them like this to improve slightly how players would look at at this pattern. Like this. Please, give it a try! :3 Modders before have varying opinions about the shape of the slider being flipped horizontally or not, but I guess you're right. It does looks better and has no negative impacts towards the flow
00:43:551 (3) - Add a NC here to keep consistency in the way you managed the new combos each new stanza. Finally! A solution to a problem that I have since I was born to this circle-clicking world
00:43:684 (1) - Add a whistle here to not have this spinner with no sounds on it. You mean I add it so the spinner have sound, right? Well, added
[Advanced] I honestly didn't have much complains about this one. It's quite neat and I like it. >u<)/ ╰(▔∀▔)╯
00:24:171 (3,1) - vs 00:32:667 (3,1) - Variation is important but not when both of patterns are almost the same. Wouldn't ot be better if you make thm uniform? Either with the stack or the non-stack could fit well. I'd go for the stack personally. :3 I feel that stacking them is not that diverse in nature when it comes to the overall shape of the pattern. Each of the patterns has a different shape, outline, and flow, so mapping a similar rhythm to those patterns is pretty pointless due to the diverse nature of them and that some parts (in this case, this part) doesn't fit for a similar pattern like the pattern before. Each verse of this song is distinct when it comes to their style of delivery of the lyrics and rhythms (mainly due to it's high tempo and upbeat nature) and I'd like to do the same for my patterns. So, my answer is : why not go for both stacked and not stacked respectively for each pattern? :3
00:32:667 (3,1) - Add anote here for consistency as well as you did here 01:00:277 - But I've added it already
01:05:720 - Please, make this spot clickeable since it's the one of the strongest beats here and as it is now, feels unnatural.Okee doke! I feel it much more emphasized than before
[Hard]
00:05:985 (3,1) - There's currently a program with these 1/1 and 1/2 stacks because some of them aren't really predictable. Hence, players might lose their combos because they can't really tell if objects are accordingly snapped to the beats. Therefore, I heavily suggest to avoid using 1/1 stacks in this difficulty to improve significantly the transitions of the patterns here. Same occurs here 00:08:905 (2,3) - Now that you mentioned it, I myself have trouble hitting them too at that state lol. Fixed
00:18:596 (3,4) - Avoid using these hidden stacks since they play rather awkward due to players can't really tell the correct snapping with them. Consider removing it from this too 00:56:693 (2,3) - Alright
00:20:189 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm really sorry but this plays somewhat strange. Music suggests drums are being emphasized here so giving it a motion of flow of the sliders would fit better. What about this? I do believe there's other things you can come out if you consider changing this pattern. Give it a try! Since people have said that this stack isn't that fitting, alright, I changed it. Also, your pattern is a bit difficult for newer players as most of them can't singletap 220+ BPM that easily lol
00:35:985 - Add a note here as well as you did in the upcoming pattern. Sure!
00:44:613 (5) - NC here. Consider doing the same over the following cases 00:50:985 (5) - 00:55:366 (4) - 00:04:259 (4) - Alright, I NC'd most of them as well as other parts I found a bit weird
00:49:658 (4,1) - This flows somewhat forced comparing with how smoothly the previous pattern were snapped. I think if you put it here like this would suit the pattern the best. You're a genius!
00:55:764 (5) - Blends with the video. Plus, it's almost invisible because the Approach Rather doesn't cover allow players to realize that slider is snapped under 00:54:967 (3) - Would you mind placing them somewhere else? Changed combo color
Call me back for a recheck! Aye aye, sir!

Thanks for the mod, Happy!

Updated Strategas' diff

Now waiting for Panda and Hightec (in vacation until August 6th damn lol)

I'll call Happy when they have responded

Kujinn

1,382 posts

Joined December 2013

Kujinn 2016-07-16T22:48:53+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
[Panda's Extra]
Really quite fun difficulty! Nonetheless, I don't think the high AR such as 9.5 would fit here. The reason I say that is because the patterns and the overall density on how fast the objects appear don't really deserve getting that high AR. what about reducing it to 9.2 - 9.3? It was 9.3 before I increased it. Was just too slow during game play, especially for intense jumps like 00:03:197 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) -
00:27:888 (5) - Replace this with a circle as well as you did in the previous stanza here 00:21:516 (7) - Done
00:45:543 (4,1) - Spacing here is weird. Thus, this woulc make players lose their combos because according to the motion given before, it would suit better if it were a jump. Agreed though I struggled quite a bit on how to make it a jump because it would be positioned oddly that will still cause breaks. So I remapped that section.

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My mapping style has changed so much since I first mapped this. doesn't even feel like I made it lol

BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-17T13:24:03+00:00

^ Updated

Now we wait for HighTec, who is on vacation until August 6 uuuuggghhhh

If he's done with the mod, I'll message Happy

Vivyanne

1,215 posts

Joined December 2013

Vivyanne 2016-07-18T17:54:53+00:00

420th post!

HappyRocket88 wrote:
[HighTec's Insane] ehhh! I still doubt you a mod. x.x
00:04:790 (3,4) - Minot but there would look aesthetically better if they did a blanket with the previous sliders with 1/2 of length uh i thought they were blanketed? xd
00:21:118 (4) - I know this was placed for stack purposes but frankly saying the jump that created these two notes is rather big 00:20:720 (3,4) - would it be better if you make 00:20:720 (3) - a simple curve slider? I do believe something like this would fit nicely here and would avoid managing such as higher spacing among the notes. i really like the little extra linear flow the current slider gives at its current state tho. you sure are right but i just prefer my current way
00:22:578 (3,4,5) - Would you mind managing the same Distance Snap here? Quite weird this triangle pattern ends being a bit untidy due the inconsistency of spacing. it is still a perfect triangle tho right? but i guess if the DS rly is broken it wouldnt be a problem to have it rechecked
00:31:737 (1,2) - While I do respect the blanket pattern you made here, I'm afraid I disagree with this pattern being a good idea. The problem is that players might think the circle is snapped to the blue tick because of the spacing. Could you consider increasing the spacing here a bit? from all testplays that ive had from several people with big diversity in rank (40k --> 1k) and no one really had a problem ;w;
00:33:330 (2) - Ctrl + G here to improve the flow. As it is now it feels way forced since the direction of the sliders don't really tell where the next object will be placed. the flow for the situation after is much better when it's not ctrl+g'd. also the spacing wouldnt end up being what i'd like it to be, with a way bigger unneeded bigger gap
00:47:534 (4) - This kick-slider isn't really needed in the section since the 1/4 tiucks are barely audible in the song and aren't supported by this pattern. eventho they might be soft, to keep consistency in the diff it's better to have this mapped too. i mapped way more than all the others have in their diffs tbh xd
01:05:720 - Would you mind making this beat clickeable? consistency is key! wanting kinda to have the entire ending full of sliders! i also prefer after having so many 1/2 beats making the player have to play 1/1 things in situations like these!
!

You better mod me meme soon :^)
BigEarsMau will hopefully make the changes for me since i cant myself (mau sent me screenshots so i could see the situation for myself =w=)

BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-19T01:15:14+00:00

^ I made the changes for HighTec

Blanketed the sliders
I used 1.8x spacing for the triangle pattern

Alright, gonna call Happy

HappyRocket88

4,321 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-07-20T23:59:39+00:00

Advanced

00:51:781 - Add a note here as well as you did here 01:00:277 (4) -

I might need further assistance with Strategas and Nino's difficulty before re-bubbling this since they are beyond my modding skill level. (aside from seeing none of my suggestions were useful to the difficulty itself QAQ)

BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-21T10:56:12+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
Advanced

00:51:781 - Add a note here as well as you did here 01:00:277 (4) - If you say so

HappyRocket88 wrote:
I might need further assistance with Strategas and Nino's difficulty before re-bubbling this since they are beyond my modding skill level. (aside from seeing none of my suggestions were useful to the difficulty itself QAQ)

I don't know, but based on what other modders said about them, their diffs are already fine, with them saying "oh, this diff is flawless", "this diff is very fun to play", etc. It is probably because of the short duration of the song and a big number of mods for the past 3 months. Another thing I've noticed that the recent mods for their diffs (including estellia's) barely mention any serious issues and were only merely minor suggestions (which, in fact, they refused to add in or fix). From what I've noticed, they're pretty reluctant in replying to another mod, since their diffs has already hit the limit and that people already commenting on how good their diffs are

Keep in mind that this is my sole opinion. If you think you still need assistance in checking their diffs, please do. But I'm not sure about how long this will take

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-07-21T13:57:32+00:00

I looked through the diffs and just important/easy to fix things mentioned

[Panda]

00:05:189 (4,1,2) - playability suffers a bit here because you almost have a straight line with different spacing, on this bpm this is even more important so you could ctrl G 00:05:321 (1,2) - to fix or moving 00:05:321 (1) - more upwards

00:26:560 (1,2) - looks weird, they are different shapes, but you probably intended for something symmetrical here, so just copy one of those

00:45:144 (1) - ctrl g? it would make your 00:45:144 (1,2,1) - patern look more... normal? now this one is facing the wrong direction and as a result flow from 1 ti 2 suffers a bit. additionally 00:45:144 (1,2,1) - could look more even

[estellia]

00:03:728 (3,2) - minor but fix stack

[HighTec]

00:13:817 (1,2) - following your patern afterwards this should be more spaced, because you keep reducing the spacing, but this is same as 00:14:215 (1,2) -

[hard]

00:26:560 (1,2,3,4) - looks pretty weird, mostly due to spacing and autostacking I suppose. http://image.prntscr.com/image/62165d87 ... 4fcff3.png

00:29:613 (4,5,6,7) - note sure if spacing is decreasing here on purpose but I think even spacing between those would be better lol

@HappyRocket I can assure you there's like no objective unrankable stuff here and you should be free to qualify if you feel like the quality is good enough, it won't get DQed anyway, unless dumb stuff like metadata error or something will happen, but I don't think so. Since you seem to confident about the other diffs except the two, you can just ask some experienced modders opinion to make sure it's ok, that will be enough imo.
If you would ask me personally, I wouldn't really say the diffs are something special, but they seem ok enough to be ranked, when I look at what kind of maps get ranked nowadays.

BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-21T14:46:32+00:00

Strategas wrote:
I looked through the diffs and just important/easy to fix things mentioned

[hard]

00:26:560 (1,2,3,4) - looks pretty weird, mostly due to spacing and autostacking I suppose. http://image.prntscr.com/image/62165d87 ... 4fcff3.png Yeah, it's probably bc of the spacing I used, but fixed it nevertheless

00:29:613 (4,5,6,7) - note sure if spacing is decreasing here on purpose but I think even spacing between those would be better lol It's because I used an inherited point here, but I thought of it again that it was useless, so I deleted it

@HappyRocket I can assure you there's like no objective unrankable stuff here and you should be free to qualify if you feel like the quality is good enough, it won't get DQed anyway, unless dumb stuff like metadata error or something will happen, but I don't think so. Since you seem to confident about the other diffs except the two, you can just ask some experienced modders opinion to make sure it's ok, that will be enough imo.
If you would ask me personally, I wouldn't really say the diffs are something special, but they seem ok enough to be ranked, when I look at what kind of maps get ranked nowadays.

Thanks for helping, Strategas!

I'll wait for HighTec, NiNo, and Panda's responses, I'll discuss with Happy again after that. I hope Strategas' mod can help him in making the decision to rebub

Fixed the minor stack for estellia's diff. Also, he doesn't want to change his diff name since he mapped it when he was still known as estellia. However, I've added his new username to the tags

Kujinn

1,382 posts

Joined December 2013

Kujinn 2016-07-21T15:09:16+00:00

Strategas wrote:

I looked through the diffs and just important/easy to fix things mentioned

[Panda]

00:05:189 (4,1,2) - playability suffers a bit here because you almost have a straight line with different spacing, on this bpm this is even more important so you could ctrl G 00:05:321 (1,2) - to fix or moving 00:05:321 (1) - more upwards done

00:26:560 (1,2) - looks weird, they are different shapes, but you probably intended for something symmetrical here, so just copy one of those done

00:45:144 (1) - ctrl g? it would make your 00:45:144 (1,2,1) - patern look more... normal? now this one is facing the wrong direction and as a result flow from 1 ti 2 suffers a bit. additionally 00:45:144 (1,2,1) - could look more even I was trying to do something similar to what I do with most of my maps, but I can see that it looks off here

Thanks for mod !

Panda

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BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-21T15:21:49+00:00

^ Updated

Now waiting for HighTec and Nino

Vivyanne

1,215 posts

Joined December 2013

Vivyanne 2016-07-21T16:24:25+00:00

Mau can u increase spacing by like 1.15x or smth on the first (1,2) combo

Becus i agree

BigEarsMau

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Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-21T16:34:57+00:00

^ Alright I've scaled the aforementioned combos by 1.15x spacing

Waiting for NiNo

EDIT :
Oh, my mistake, Strategas

Changed the second combo back to its original spacing

Last edited by BigEarsMau 2016-07-21T18:24:57+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-07-21T18:17:06+00:00

uhh you increased both of them lol

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-07-22T05:34:24+00:00

lol i didnt see theres a mod of my diff =w=

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2016-07-23T04:13:48+00:00

Happyrocket asked me for an opinion on the highest diff, so here it is~. Some things i'd change, but I'm not really involved in this beatmap's nomination so I'll leave it up to whoever is bubbling/ranking to agree/disagree/force mapper to change stuff xD.

IRC with Rocket, Cut out a lot, mainly just the juicy parts and explanations

20:51 HappyRocket88: Strategas' one
20:52 Monstrata: 00:09:038 - so weird how he makes this empty
20:52 Monstrata: it makes ppl go ???? why is there no note here
20:52 Monstrata: 00:09:171 (1) - especially since this is positioned so it looks like a 1/2 jump from 5>1
20:53 Monstrata: 00:10:233 (4,5,6) - Linear flow like this just makes it really hard to snap
20:53 Monstrata: because theres no angle change from 4>5 and 5>6
20:53 Monstrata: i would use an angle tbh... since it'll set up the next jumps better
20:54 HappyRocket88: same would go for these then 00:12:357 (4,5,6) - ?
20:54 Monstrata: yea
20:54 Monstrata: generally, linear flow isn't good
20:54 Monstrata: its even more noticeable on high bpm's
20:55 Monstrata: like if this was maybe 160-180 i would be more tolerant of linear flow since there isn't so much of a demand for sharp movements
20:55 Monstrata: 00:15:675 (3,1) - overlap could be avoided by moving the whole pattern left/down a bit
20:55 Monstrata: https://puu.sh/qbh7B.jpg
20:56 HappyRocket88: ohhhh

20:56 HappyRocket88: never noticed that one xD
20:56 Monstrata: 00:22:312 (1,2) - again, confusing spacing. It's set up to resemble a 1/2 jump pattern, but it's actually 1/1 so the rhythm throws you off
20:58 Monstrata: 00:25:498 (1,2) - Not really liking how these overlaps. I think the blanket design is good, but they could use a better slidershape, like, that bump near the head doesn't look too good imo...
20:58 Monstrata: but thats more aesthetics
20:59 Monstrata: 00:27:888 (3) - I would make this a 1/2 slider because 2>3 and 3>4 can be considered 1/2 jumps
20:59 Monstrata: if you make 3 a 1/2 slider, it makes the pattern a lot easier to read. and 4>5 is stacked so player will know its 1/1
21:00 Monstrata: and then from 5>1, theres an NC so the follow points get removed so players have some sort of visual cue
21:00 Monstrata: 00:30:808 (1,2) - same as earlier
21:00 Monstrata: 00:32:932 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - this is pretty neat tho
21:01 HappyRocket88: 00:34:392 (4,5,6) - ctrl + h would work good here?
21:01 Monstrata: 00:37:976 (4,5) - This isn't good because the mapper is following vocals. If you are following vocals. stacking 5 is a bad idea because it gives no emphasis onto the vocal that lands on that note xD
21:01 Monstrata: nah. Ctrl+H would make the flow not as good imo...
21:01 Monstrata: right now its all flowing counter-clockwise
21:01 HappyRocket88: ohhh
21:02 HappyRocket88: understood!
21:02 Monstrata: 00:32:932 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Basically, this is clockwise, then 00:33:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - switches to counterclockwise . which is kinda smart haha cuz it switches on an NC and halfway through the sequence
21:02 Monstrata: 00:41:826 (2,1) - If the mapper can avoid this overlap, it would help make the map cleaner too
21:03 Monstrata: since you can see 1 overlapping before you finish playing slider 2 due to the AR
21:03 HappyRocket88: despite it's
21:03 HappyRocket88: 9.8 omg
21:03 Monstrata: 00:46:737 (1,1) - Okay, this is not good imo xP. It's going to be really hard to tell when 1 appears...
21:03 Monstrata: because the slider pretty much covers all of the approach circle of 1..
21:04 Monstrata: so you kinda have to guess. and the rhythm is kinda set up to appear like a 1/2 rhythm
21:04 Monstrata: 00:47:268 (1,2) - i mean, compare this 1/2 rhythm spacing
21:04 Monstrata: to 00:46:737 (1,1) -
21:05 Monstrata: 00:54:172 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - THIS IS SO CONFUSING ZZZZ
21:06 HappyRocket88: yeeXDDD
21:06 Monstrata: 00:54:968 (1,2) - Ctrl+G this
21:06 Monstrata: then 00:55:100 (2,3) - Ctlr+G this
21:06 Monstrata: that way all 3 triangles
21:06 Monstrata: https://puu.sh/qbhEo.jpg
21:06 Monstrata: become counter-clockwise
21:07 Monstrata: and then at least the player can figure out the placement
21:07 Monstrata: based on the flow, since it'll all flow counterclockwise
21:07 Monstrata: 00:56:029 (1,2) - Ctrl+G here is good too
21:07 Monstrata: Emphasizes 1 and reduces readability concerns
21:07 HappyRocket88: omg
21:08 Monstrata: but yea thats about it for me xD
21:08 Monstrata: speed mod ayy
21:08 Monstrata: jk this took a while xD
21:08 HappyRocket88: Would you mind...
21:09 HappyRocket88: posting these suggestions to the thread? /

good luck on this set~

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-07-23T11:38:46+00:00

Happyrocket asked me for an opinion on the highest diff, so here it is~. Some things i'd change, but I'm not really involved in this beatmap's nomination so I'll leave it up to whoever is bubbling/ranking to agree/disagree/force mapper to change stuff xD.

IRC with Rocket, Cut out a lot, mainly just the juicy parts and explanations
20:51 : Strategas' one
20:52 : 00:09:038 - so weird how he makes this empty following certain instrument, that place doesn't have that instrument, if I'd map that I basicly have the map the whole intro to the weak sounds too
20:52 : it makes ppl go ???? why is there no note here
20:52 : 00:09:171 (1) - especially since this is positioned so it looks like a 1/2 jump from 5>1 tried making it more obvious, but it was obvious enough with the NCs
20:53 : 00:10:233 (4,5,6) - Linear flow like this just makes it really hard to snap I tried but felt this was the best still
20:53 : because theres no angle change from 4>5 and 5>6
20:53 : i would use an angle tbh... since it'll set up the next jumps better
20:54 : same would go for these then 00:12:357 (4,5,6) - ?
20:54 : yea
20:54 : generally, linear flow isn't good
20:54 : its even more noticeable on high bpm's
20:55 : like if this was maybe 160-180 i would be more tolerant of linear flow since there isn't so much of a demand for sharp movements
20:55 : 00:15:675 (3,1) - overlap could be avoided by moving the whole pattern left/down a bit tried
20:55 : https://puu.sh/qbh7B.jpg
20:56 : ohhhh
20:56 : never noticed that one xD
20:56 : 00:22:312 (1,2) - again, confusing spacing. It's set up to resemble a 1/2 jump pattern, but it's actually 1/1 so the rhythm throws you off
20:58 : 00:25:498 (1,2) - Not really liking how these overlaps. I think the blanket design is good, but they could use a better slidershape, like, that bump near the head doesn't look too good imo... adjusted, not sure if better or worse
20:58 : but thats more aesthetics
20:59 : 00:27:888 (3) - I would make this a 1/2 slider because 2>3 and 3>4 can be considered 1/2 jumps ok
20:59 : if you make 3 a 1/2 slider, it makes the pattern a lot easier to read. and 4>5 is stacked so player will know its 1/1
21:00 : and then from 5>1, theres an NC so the follow points get removed so players have some sort of visual cue
21:00 : 00:30:808 (1,2) - same as earlier
21:00 : 00:32:932 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - this is pretty neat tho
21:01 : 00:34:392 (4,5,6) - ctrl + h would work good here?
21:01 : 00:37:976 (4,5) - This isn't good because the mapper is following vocals. If you are following vocals. stacking 5 is a bad idea because it gives no emphasis onto the vocal that lands on that note xD z
21:01 : nah. Ctrl+H would make the flow not as good imo...
21:01 : right now its all flowing counter-clockwise
21:01 : ohhh
21:02 : understood!
21:02 : 00:32:932 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Basically, this is clockwise, then 00:33:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - switches to counterclockwise . which is kinda smart haha cuz it switches on an NC and halfway through the sequence
21:02 : 00:41:826 (2,1) - If the mapper can avoid this overlap, it would help make the map cleaner too managed
21:03 : since you can see 1 overlapping before you finish playing slider 2 due to the AR
21:03 : despite it's
21:03 : 9.8 omg
21:03 : 00:46:737 (1,1) - Okay, this is not good imo xP. It's going to be really hard to tell when 1 appears... dunno I see the approach circle through the slider and 1/1 gap should be enough to be able to tell it apart
21:03 : because the slider pretty much covers all of the approach circle of 1..
21:04 : so you kinda have to guess. and the rhythm is kinda set up to appear like a 1/2 rhythm
21:04 : 00:47:268 (1,2) - i mean, compare this 1/2 rhythm spacing
21:04 : to 00:46:737 (1,1) -
21:05 : 00:54:172 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - THIS IS SO CONFUSING ZZZZ no change for this part, in-game it's much less confusing than in editor lol, I have triangles then it goes back one note and it repeats, so far ppl had no problems and I felt like it was cool to play so
21:06 : yeeXDDD
21:06 : 00:54:968 (1,2) - Ctrl+G this
21:06 : then 00:55:100 (2,3) - Ctlr+G this
21:06 : that way all 3 triangles
21:06 : https://puu.sh/qbhEo.jpg
21:06 : become counter-clockwise
21:07 : and then at least the player can figure out the placement
21:07 : based on the flow, since it'll all flow counterclockwise
21:07 : 00:56:029 (1,2) - Ctrl+G here is good too
21:07 : Emphasizes 1 and reduces readability concerns
21:07 : omg
21:08 : but yea thats about it for me xD
21:08 : speed mod ayy
21:08 : jk this took a while xD
21:08 : Would you mind...
21:09 : posting these suggestions to the thread? /

good luck on this set~

ty

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BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-23T15:58:03+00:00

Big thanks for the very helpful mod, Monstrata

Updated Strategas' diff

I'll talk to Happy again

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2016-07-23T20:02:53+00:00

20:52 : 00:09:038 - so weird how he makes this empty following certain instrument, that place doesn't have that instrument, if I'd map that I basicly have the map the whole intro to the weak sounds too

^ I would still disagree... I think this is the only place where the "weak" sound you mentioned, can still cause spacing issues. personally, i don't find it weak, but a simple solution is just using a 1/2 slider so that all the notes are 1/2 apart. Generally, when you "follow" a note, you click to the beat. In that respect, sliders are a great way to maintain the clicking rhythm, and focus on the instruments you want the player to notice, while still acknowledging other sounds that are weaker in the track, and mapping them to more passive gameplay elements (releasing your key, rather than hitting).

Won't force any changes. Just explaining my side a bit more. Hopefully some of this makes sense, about active and passive gameplay elements. Good luck once again~

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-07-23T20:45:52+00:00

I know where you're getting at, but I just prefer not to, having 1/1 gaps like this give a certain feeling to playability and I like it, also didn't I just indicate with the last change? I think the stack and the NC makes it obvious enough?

Ciyus Miapah

3,011 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2016-07-24T06:31:05+00:00

yeh

Strategas:

AR9.6 :/
00:55:233 (3,1,2) - fort you
00:55:366 (1,2) - CTRL+G or riot
00:55:366 (1) - this is quite high pitch tone for screen jump
00:55:366 (1) - why you do this with zero stack :<<<
00:55:764 (1,2,1,2) - this should be bigger jump
01:02:666 (1,2) - same

Panda:

00:29:149 - you should put something in here, there is something in here that can be clearly listen (if you disagree "Insert essay here so i can reply it")
00:46:339 (6) - this slider looks decent, i don't really have any reason why you map 00:46:339 (6) - directly with a slider when in 00:46:472 - has strong beat that should be mapped. Yeah kinda not necessary, put 2 circles like http://puu.sh/qcqvX/dfa29bbf28.jpg to make your slow effect better
okay

Estellia:

00:17:534 (1) - this is looks "Okay"?, please dont overmap song (especiall on 00:17:866 - is quite nothing to map) and at the whole mapset any mappers didn't map that part
00:28:950 (2,3) - put triple (i said this cuz you dare put triple on 00:52:976 (4,5) - and 01:01:472 (5,6) - )
00:37:180 (1) - put clap+whistle on head
00:46:737 (1) - same like 00:17:534 (1) - (if you disagree "insert Long essay here so i can reply") and since this one is insane i can say that slider can be overmapped for strong reason
okay

NiNo:

8* pp map :>
00:15:808 (4,1) - put more distance a bit please maybe 192|52 is good
00:20:189 (1,2) - if you want put anti jump don't put the notes at intense intro vocal songs, feels disturbing (example like 00:18:065 (1,2,3) - and 00:24:171 (4,1) - is okay in game anyway) so yeah i see the jump like 00:28:684 (1,2,3,4) - so you can map like this too :>
00:38:109 - feels retarded when you skip this :/
okay

HiTech:

00:03:197 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - wow these jumps reminds me about the bigblack
00:15:144 (2,1) - why no stack? it can be a good anti jump btw, 00:15:012 (1,2) - i think this stack really weird since you put nonstack at 00:13:817 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -
00:47:003 (2) - delete this, i think this one is overmapped and it doesn't exist on highest diffs
00:36:118 (1,2) - blanket #random
okay

yeah, the general setting is good, just deactivate Widescreen support because this map not contains SB

you don't need to put "Gal Gun" as tags because the "Gal*Gun" can be typed by "Gal Gun"
you need to put underscore on [ Emillia ] yeah you know what happens just like that
put BEM as tags cuz it's your slang name
Ekoro is a penguin at all
Recheck the difficulty settings on all diffs, maybe something will be missing

idk about metadata, i can't read japs

okay

Vivyanne

1,215 posts

Joined December 2013

Vivyanne 2016-07-24T09:29:26+00:00

Fort wrote:
yeh

HiTech:
00:03:197 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - wow these jumps reminds me about the bigblack ayylmao but imo it's not square or star enough to say that :^)
00:15:144 (2,1) - why no stack? it can be a good anti jump btw, 00:15:012 (1,2) - i think this stack really weird since you put nonstack at 00:13:817 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 00:15:144 (2,1) - imo doesnt have to be stacked because the change in the song is p big and i'm following another rythm. Also i wanted the stack on 00:15:012 (1,2) - to indicate the ending on the section, rest can be found in older replies xd
00:47:003 (2) - delete this, i think this one is overmapped and it doesn't exist on highest diffs noh! this isnt overmapped i promise, it really is in the song! notice btw how i catched way more beats than any other diff in the mapset anyways xd
00:36:118 (1,2) - blanket #random oops!
okay
okay

Thank mr. Fort!
Mau will make the changes !!

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2016-07-24T13:04:08+00:00

Fort wrote:
Estellia:
00:17:534 (1) - this is looks "Okay"?, please dont overmap song (especiall on 00:17:866 - is quite nothing to map) and at the whole mapset any mappers didn't map that part ya this is ok
00:28:950 (2,3) - put triple (i said this cuz you dare put triple on 00:52:976 (4,5) - and 01:01:472 (5,6) - ) i think ur deaf lol xd
00:37:180 (1) - put clap+whistle on head idk mau up to u
00:46:737 (1) - same like 00:17:534 (1) - (if you disagree "insert Long essay here so i can reply") and since this one is insane i can say that slider can be overmapped for strong reason wt?
okay

no change

Kujinn

1,382 posts

Joined December 2013

Kujinn 2016-07-24T13:13:16+00:00

Fort wrote:
Panda:
00:29:149 - you should put something in here, there is something in here that can be clearly listen (if you disagree "Insert essay here so i can reply it")??? what do I even put here?
00:46:339 (6) - this slider looks decent, i don't really have any reason why you map 00:46:339 (6) - directly with a slider when in 00:46:472 - has strong beat that should be mapped. Yeah kinda not necessary, put 2 circles like http://puu.sh/qcqvX/dfa29bbf28.jpg to make your slow effect better Done!
okay

Thanks Brah

Panda

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Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-07-24T13:30:37+00:00

yeh

Fort wrote:
yeh

Strategas:
AR9.6 :/ higher AR more comfy
00:55:233 (3,1,2) - fort you
00:55:366 (1,2) - CTRL+G or riot riot, because changing would pretty much destroy the idea of these paternsz
00:55:366 (1) - this is quite high pitch tone for screen jump well yea, but in a way it's the same as 00:54:569 (1,1) - and only the very noticable high pitch comes after that and I adjusted it now
00:55:366 (1) - why you do this with zero stack :<<< high AR helps
00:55:764 (1,2,1,2) - this should be bigger jump welcome 6 star, sorry Mau lol
01:02:666 (1,2) - same tried
okay

okay

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BigEarsMau

786 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

BigEarsMau 2016-07-24T13:59:27+00:00

Fort wrote:
yeh Senpai! \o/

yeah, the general setting is good, just deactivate Widescreen support because this map not contains SB Oh yeah, didn't noticed them. I think the guys forgot to turn it off when they gave me the updates. Anyways, fixed
you don't need to put "Gal Gun" as tags because the "Gal*Gun" can be typed by "Gal Gun" I thought so too. Maybe "Gal*Gun" is enough
you need to put underscore on [ Emillia ] yeah you know what happens just like that Sure. From what I've seen from other maps with usernames like this, they used underscores too
put BEM as tags cuz it's your slang name Considering that you said in chat that you're too lazy to search my long name in the beatmap listing, I'll add it lol
Ekoro is a penguin at all DON'T CALL MY MOE ANGEL WAIFU A PENGUIN!!! XDDDD
Recheck the difficulty settings on all diffs, maybe something will be missing Recheck'd and we're good to go
idk about metadata, i can't read japs KwaN has confirmed it. You can see it in the map's description

okay Senpai! \o/

Thanks for the mod, Fort-senpai!

@HighTec : Turns out the blanket is alright http://puu.sh/qcHCy/6fa6d5312d.JPG

@Emillia : Sound pretty weird if I added it, so no change

@Strategas : Actually, 6 stars is what I always hoping for

Alright, I've discussed with Happy earlier today about the rebub. He said that he has poked Yuii for the final recheck so he'd able to be convinced about the map's improvement. However, I argued to him and said that having one more mod from an experienced mapper is enough, thus I picked Fort (thank you so much btw). Also, I've talked to Yuii yesterday and he said he can't check the map because he's busy with other requests (50 to be exact). Happy said that if Yuii doesn't come, Fort's mod would be the final check to the map

Happy, if you're reading this, I hope Fort's mod can finally convince you. If you still want to wait for Yuii, that's fine, but if things go awry with him, we'll take Fort's mod as the final check

Oh yeah, Fort said that I should resize the BG to 1366x768, but unfortunately the BG file is invalid when I use it. So I used the old BG instead

EDIT :
Updated NiNo's diff

EDIT 2 :
Yuii said he'll check the map if he has time

Last edited by BigEarsMau 2016-07-25T00:06:26+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-07-24T16:00:56+00:00

Fort wrote:
NiNo:
8* pp map :> but not even 5* :<
00:15:808 (4,1) - put more distance a bit please maybe 192|52 is good looks cool
00:20:189 (1,2) - if you want put anti jump don't put the notes at intense intro vocal songs, feels disturbing (example like 00:18:065 (1,2,3) - and 00:24:171 (4,1) - is okay in game anyway) so yeah i see the jump like 00:28:684 (1,2,3,4) - so you can map like this too :> nah maybe not cuz each object was following the vocal perfectly and plays well in game play either =w=
00:38:109 - feels retarded when you skip this :/ lol k
okay

cool, thx for mod

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Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2016-07-24T16:10:53+00:00

HighTec wrote:
HiTech:
00:47:003 (2) - noh! this isnt overmapped i promise, it really is in the song! notice btw how i catched way more beats than any other diff in the mapset anyways xdokay then, it's not overmapped at gameplay but, it's overmapped at structure, when there is no 1/4 beats there, i think you should put 1/2 slider in there, it sounds more better and neater

[ Emillia ] wrote:
00:17:534 (1) -ya this is ok yeah i really noticed this because in fact the strongest rhythm is on 00:17:799 - but you keep put more arrows on this and makes the anti jump pattern feels not emphasized so well, yeah you can say it's okay but for me that can be a small problem and maybe you can make this more better like reduce reverse arrow and make slider end to 00:17:799 -
00:28:950 (2,3) - i think ur deaf lol xd Damn im not deaf at all, try listen that to 25% please m8 (there is strong drum sound there) i trying to listen what's inside the music not trying to make you overmap something
00:46:737 (1) - wt? well my mod input can be right because in fact i listen music and notice that part more than 1 time, i don't hear anything in 00:47:069 - and 00:47:202 - (don't believe me? try 25% it), and since you put anti jump on 00:47:268 (2,3) - the 1/1 pattern for 00:46:737 (1,2,3) - can make sense for insane diff.
okay

Panda King wrote:
Panda:
00:29:149 - ??? what do I even put here? maybe like this one can help

only replied something with "insert essay here", glhf

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