Praw wrote:
you can always request a moderator to delete this thread.
If you really are so obsessed that you can't even stop for 10 seconds to go to the main menu to check the time, what's the actual point?
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If you really are so obsessed that you can't even stop for 10 seconds to go to the main menu to check the time, what's the actual point?
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Well I hope you ever find something that you like/love that much that you can focus on it over 10 seconds.Transformau5 wrote:
Praw wrote:
you can always request a moderator to delete this thread.
If you really are so obsessed that you can't even stop for 10 seconds to go to the main menu to check the time, what's the actual point?
Well, current time does not equal the actual playtime, and it's easy to lose track of time when being focused etc.Pawsu wrote:
You can also see the time when in the chat.
As mentioned, the basic idea is not too bad, but ever finding a right place for it is probably not going to work out. It's not a necessity, as you can just go back to the main menu.
although this is extremely exaggerated(hopefully), if someone is so hooked into the game they can't take 5 seconds to check the main menu, they need a break. i'm not going to lie. while this might be a nice extra touch, i just don't find this requested all that neededPraw wrote:
I guess you can't understand no matter how I explain.Transformau5 wrote:
Guess what
It's also in the main menu
I'll try for the last time, I'll segment it for you.
What's the use of the main menu clock...
for someone who can obsessively...
play for several hours...
without losing focus,
without going to the main menu...
without alt-tabbing...
without needing a toilet break...
without needing rest...
without needing to check their phone...
until their hands hurt...
or they are dehydrated...
or their eyes are hurting...
or any other reason.
I think that most people still can't get this into their skulls that the session's length is also featured in the main menu timer, so I'll just point it out here
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I'll explain to you as well then. It's not about not being able to take 5 seconds, it's about not even noticing that you could take 5 seconds to check the main menu. Hours go by or your hands get tired etc etc and then you notice. When it's late and when it doesn't matter any more.deadbeat wrote:
although this is extremely exaggerated(hopefully), if someone is so hooked into the game they can't take 5 seconds to check the main menu, they need a break. i'm not going to lie. while this might be a nice extra touch, i just don't find this requested all that needed
Whether or not someone needs a break is just an opinion and it's as worthwile as my opinion that when you don't even like the game enough that you lose track of time, then you should take a break or look for a more interesting game for you.
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We all know that and it is irrelevant. It's like having a clock on your back instead of on your hand, so that when you want to know the time you have to find a mirror, instead of slightly directing your eyes towards your hand.Transformau5 wrote:
I think that most people still can't get this into their skulls that the session's length is also featured in the main menu timer, so I'll just point it out here
I guess I just have to edit my badly worded original post.
The best thing you can do is delete this post instead of trying to prove everyone that you are the only one who's right
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Telling someone they're wrong doesn't mean I'm right, but I guess you need a few more years to develop past the "right&wrong, black&white" phase, which is common for kids.Transformau5 wrote:
The best thing you can do is delete this post instead of trying to prove everyone that you are the only one who's right
You wouldn't insist on others being wrong if you weren't right, would you?
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I do not know if I'm right or wrong objetively, what I do know is that my feature request is misunderstood completely by people and ridiculed by the same people. Therefore I try to fix it by explaining what my feature request is about in more detail.Transformau5 wrote:
You wouldn't insist on others being wrong if you weren't right, would you?
For me it's not hard to imagine a person who never loses track of time, but for you it's somehow impossible to imagine a person different than you and therefore you disrespect them instead of trying to understand or ignore them. But yeah, sadly most men gain the ability to see the world through someone else's eyes only when they get a child.
Right, now start bitching about my age and made-up characte traits, it will surely help your request.
My point is that if someone is so obsessed about the game that they can't alt+tab or go to the main menu to check the time (which take only a few seconds), what's the point of adding another clock? These people wouldn't even bother using it, following your logic. Besides, the game already has various methods to check time, as shown in other posts in this thread. Why do you think there's any need for another one?
My point is that if someone is so obsessed about the game that they can't alt+tab or go to the main menu to check the time (which take only a few seconds), what's the point of adding another clock? These people wouldn't even bother using it, following your logic. Besides, the game already has various methods to check time, as shown in other posts in this thread. Why do you think there's any need for another one?
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Well I'm just defending my request, I'd have stopped a long time ago, but I don't want the last reply to be some totally misunderstood post about the situation, making it look like I have abandoned the thread or that the misunderstood post is "right" even though it's not right in this thread's context. I'll keep replying as long as there's some misunderstanding.Transformau5 wrote:
Right, now start bitching about my age and made-up characte traits, it will surely help your request.
My point is that if someone is so obsessed about the game that they can't alt+tab or go to the main menu to check the time (which take only a few seconds), what's the point of adding another clock? These people wouldn't even bother using it, following your logic. Besides, the game already has various methods to check time, as shown in other posts in this thread. Why do you think there's any need for another one?
I'll explain the concept even more specifically. You imply that the obsessed person has a choice to alt-tab or to go to the main menu or to be obsessed. I imply that they don't. And they don't even have to be obsessed, there is a psychological term for periods of intense focus, it's called a flow state. In flow state you are fully focused on your task or your activity. If the activity doesn't involve constantly checking the time, then you do not even notice how fast minutes or even hours pass. That's usually supergood, because you get things done quicker and better, but when the activity is something that could be unhealthy, if taken to an extreme, then it is not the best.
This request is not about adding a new way to check the time or to check the session length, it is about giving an option to stay more aware of the time, while in-game. Like an extreme version of this would be a non-optional huge pop-up that says "Take a break!" every hour or 45 minutes, but that is not what anyone wants, me neither, even though there might be some people who might need that.
In my opinion, it's the player who's responsible of how they spend time. If you're conscious enough to be aware of yourself spending too much time on a game, then you should put that awareness to good use and check the time whenever you're unsure whether you should finish your circle clicking/drum beating/fruit catching/key mashing session. If not, then you could have entire walls covered in clocks and you'd still spend lots of time playing; it's either that or the "take a break" pop-up you've mentioned, but also, denied, so I won't refer to it in any future posts to come. Hey, peppy isn't gonna hold your hand all the time, right?
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I didn't ask him to hold my hand, this is a feature request, not a demand.Transformau5 wrote:
In my opinion, it's the player who's responsible of how they spend time. If you're conscious enough to be aware of yourself spending too much time on a game, then you should put that awareness to good use and check the time whenever you're unsure whether you should finish your circle clicking/drum beating/fruit catching/key mashing session. If not, then you could have entire walls covered in clocks and you'd still spend lots of time playing; it's either that or the "take a break" pop-up you've mentioned, but also, denied, so I won't refer to it in any future posts to come. Hey, peppy isn't gonna hold your hand all the time, right?
So since the recent request is marked as duplicate, bumping this.
This can serve a convenience throughout the game as it would require just a glance rather than a click, pretty sure it should be very simple to implement anyway compared to all other else stuffs.
This can serve a convenience throughout the game as it would require just a glance rather than a click, pretty sure it should be very simple to implement anyway compared to all other else stuffs.
I read through this whole thread and I don't see the point of it. The points you gave are not easily applied to most osu! players. Also by the sounds of what you are saying the user who has these extreme play times with no rest won't even look at the clock unless they consciously want to know the time. And if you think that then it takes absolutely no effort to go to the main menu. The fact is if ever implemented the clock isnt going to be massive you arent going to see it the whole time in song select. and having a clock/timer that gives that much information would take up a lot of space and interfere with a lot of stuff that is already in the beatmap selection. I just don't see why you would need 2 clocks/timers. And having the clock/timer optional means that not every user will benefit from this. I have a lot of things that I don't agree with. Just throwing my two cents in here, good luck with your request.
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Hence "optional".Cawub wrote:
The points you gave are not easily applied to most osu! players.
I look at the maps star ratings all the time, even though I do not consciously want to know them. I also look at what mods I have active (transparent grey text in the bottom-left), even though I do not consciously want to know them. I look at the mapper's name, even though I don't consciously want to know it. I look at my frame time, even though I don't consciously want to know it.Cawub wrote:
Also by the sounds of what you are saying the user who has these extreme play times with no rest won't even look at the clock unless they consciously want to know the time. And if you think that then it takes absolutely no effort to go to the main menu. The fact is if ever implemented the clock isnt going to be massive you arent going to see it the whole time in song select.
The info is provided, it is not in my face, and it is not necessary for my gameplay, but it's there in the in-game environment and it makes several decisions easier and faster. A small optional transparent clock/timer would make time/break management easier with no downsides.
If I was already curious about time, I could alt-tab or check my phone faster than going out of the in-game environment to the main menu.
Praw wrote:
Hence "optional".Cawub wrote:
The points you gave are not easily applied to most osu! players.
Nathaneal wrote:
Your request should be for the benefit of all players, not only you.
Asking for a feature that only a few will use won't be noticed as one that everyone has been wanting since 2009.
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Having an extra option(freedom) is a benefit to all players. Just like having an option to play windowed mode, or an option to change cursor size.Nathaneal wrote:
Your request should be for the benefit of all players, not only you.
Asking for a feature that only a few will use won't be noticed as one that everyone has been wanting since 2009.
Didn't read anything else than last page but anyways, what is preventing you to press F8 and look at the time the last message in #osu! was sent ? There is so many people there that there is always at least 1 message every minute.
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Focus, fun, anything. The same thing that prevents you from actively feeling your toes when you're playing osu!. This request is not about making it easier to check the time, it is about having a way to stay aware of time.Arnold0 wrote:
Didn't read anything else than last page but anyways, what is preventing you to press F8 and look at the time the last message in #osu! was sent ? There is so many people there that there is always at least 1 message every minute.
Well the point I have is if you are so focused to not even click to look at the time or turn on a message ticker than you are going to be to focused to even care about the time even if you see it, I just don't see why they would add something that already takes no effort to use.
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1 click = infinitely more effort than 0 clicks, even though as I said, this request is not about the effort. It also could have a timer function for extra value.Cawub wrote:
Well the point I have is if you are so focused to not even click to look at the time or turn on a message ticker than you are going to be to focused to even care about the time even if you see it, I just don't see why they would add something that already takes no effort to use.
the clock at the top of the fps counter looks good
and sometimes when mapping/storyboarding i didn't know what time it is lol and it would be faster to put the clock at the top of the fps counter, i can use alt+tab to view it but slower
and sometimes when mapping/storyboarding i didn't know what time it is lol and it would be faster to put the clock at the top of the fps counter, i can use alt+tab to view it but slower
i second this idea, it'd be a pretty good addition in my eyes