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Kayano

Joined July 2011

Kayano 2016-04-21T04:39:37+00:00

1. Offset: 279ms BPM: 190.00
2. Offset: 70,700ms BPM: 175.00
3. Offset: 71,214ms BPM: 190.00
4. Offset: 72,319ms BPM: 190.00
试试这样

smallboat

1,687 posts

Joined January 2010

Topic Starter

smallboat 2016-04-21T08:32:08+00:00

先貼，如果Reply每條都回完，我會更新。 -> 剩Hard還沒fix

ZZHBOY wrote:
则呢diff这么几把多不等二凯迪斯了 這啥意思
[General]
soft-hitwhistle9.wav 好像有点延迟把前面空白修下離線fix了
那个aimod还有个蛋疼的结尾时间不统一你可以把转盘尾巴拉一下比如easy转盘code是
256,192,77055,12,0,79108,0:0:0:0:
, 有1ms延迟让转盘尾snap绿线 79107 都移了
00:51:910 - 第二根红线有问题我觉得应该放这跟歐尼醬討論過了，fix了這兒的紅線
[Hard]
00:04:700 (4,5,6,1) - 第一遍没看懂可以改人性点不要叠一起嗯嗯不疊了
00:11:489 (6) - 可以和前面包一下 OK
00:27:910 (3,4) - 00:28:700 (6,1) - 点和圈节奏交换用滑条头跟那个音前面那個34交換感覺好怪，但我把後面61那個換了好像不錯
00:29:805 - 00:29:173 - 两个音一样要么都空要么都不空吧選後面的都不空好了加了個note
00:37:542 (1) - 不要nc 誤加了 fixed
00:57:910 (5,1) - 可以包好点移了一些
01:09:121 (1,2,1,2,3) - 建议用折返滑条 嗯嗯改了

[kencho] 他平日在忙學霸他叫我幫他回應一下
00:01:384 (1) - 别这么摆要被干跟我改一樣了
00:22:700 (1) - 不要nc 他說這故意的 keep
00:51:121 (3,4) - 太远他說不是很遠也keep
膜拜天朝三角pp马坡 這是神麻婆肯球gd第一個ex 怎能不拜
[Keikakudoori]
00:00:279 (1,1) - 还是建议不要转盘后接圈好蠢好吧改了
00:07:226 (3,4,5) - 不用那么远只把5移近了點
00:19:857 (4,5,6) - 这个跳好奇怪 00:20:173 (6) - 移到156 272那里如何啊 OK移動了大概位置
00:24:910 (1) - 不要遮挡和后面放近 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4977074 这样就可不然太反人类照你建議的方法修了一下

有点几把 唔還好吧

OniJAM wrote:
1. Offset: 279ms BPM: 190.00
2. Offset: 70,700ms BPM: 175.00
3. Offset: 71,214ms BPM: 190.00
4. Offset: 72,319ms BPM: 190.00
试试这样

謝謝歐尼醬的Timing check，比之前好多了，以上全fixed

Updated (下面117的GD也更新了)

Last edited by smallboat 2016-04-21T16:23:50+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

DreaM117er

1,594 posts

Joined September 2012

DreaM117er 2016-04-21T15:03:09+00:00

ZZHBOY wrote:
则呢diff这么几把多不等二凯迪斯了

[117]
01:06:752 (5,6,1) - 这里flow有问题多test改下排列可以试试ctrl+g这两个 01:06:752 (5,6) -
01:09:752 (1,2,3) - ? 本来就三分拍不要那么远和前面一组差不多远就可

有点几把

OniJAM wrote:
1. Offset: 279ms BPM: 190.00 >結果是我自己改2333
2. Offset: 70,700ms BPM: 175.00
3. Offset: 71,214ms BPM: 190.00
4. Offset: 72,319ms BPM: 190.00
试试这样

>ZZH的全改

117

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sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-04-21T17:56:51+00:00

Kencho mapping X icon....lolol

ZZHBOY

1,649 posts

Joined April 2012

ZZHBOY 2016-04-22T03:39:23+00:00

可

Sun Rainbow

1,382 posts

Joined January 2011

Sun Rainbow 2016-04-22T13:44:48+00:00

妈的你都泡了我还摸什么【
这歌要不要那么好听

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

2,307 posts

Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2016-04-23T14:53:38+00:00

[Easy]

Bpm這麼高就不要那麼多1/2啊... 尤其是01:02:015 到 01:08:805 真的不宜放1/2..

[Hard]

01:08:805 (2,1) - Hard的話這兒放跳不太好

[Insane]

00:09:910 (4) - 打起來不太順手..試試這樣?
eg

[keikakudoori]

00:02:173 (1,2,3) - 00:51:436 (1,2,3) - 把距離再縮短點, 現在只有邊碰上不太好看
00:35:015 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 這也太誇張了吧..真的沒必要

Last edited by Chaoslitz 2016-04-24T05:20:59+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2016-04-23T21:28:14+00:00

排列稍微有些小改動，還有fix了一些nazi，麻煩船爺下次幫我更新一下

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smallboat 2016-04-24T05:25:03+00:00

~~如果全改完會Update~~

Sun Rainbow wrote:
妈的你都泡了我还摸什么【 抱歉彩虹啊有點急，你的圖我會趕快摸
这歌要不要那么好听

Chaoslitz wrote:
[Easy]
Bpm這麼高就不要那麼多1/2啊... 尤其是01:02:015 到 01:08:805 真的不宜放1/2.. 改了一些，中間穿插折返節奏應該行了
[Hard]
01:08:805 (2,1) - Hard的話這兒放跳不太好恩照間距放了
[Insane]
00:09:910 (4) - 打起來不太順手..試試這樣? 移動了一點差不多你說的位置
eg
[keikakudoori]
00:02:173 (1,2,3) - 00:51:436 (1,2,3) - 把距離再縮短點, 現在只有邊碰上不太好看 OK都改了
00:35:015 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 這也太誇張了吧..真的沒必要 好跟117和你討論了一下決定穿插幾個滑條增點節奏感

Updated，Kencho的也一併更新了

Chaoslitz

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Chaoslitz 2016-04-24T12:29:49+00:00

Mainly nerfed some jumps in highest diff and reduce some 1/2 patterns in Easy
Qualified

fartownik

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fartownik 2016-04-24T14:47:30+00:00

00:35:647 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ?

This is a slowdown section, the beat is significantly less powerful than before. It should be mapped using lower spacing value, but you did the opposite and raised it for some reason (?).

The whole map seems to have overdone spacing with no moment for diversity in beat as well.

Flask

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Flask 2016-04-24T15:03:16+00:00

Len

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Len 2016-04-24T16:04:50+00:00

i love this song <333333333333

-Kanzaki

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-Kanzaki 2016-04-25T09:05:31+00:00

fartownik wrote:
00:35:647 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ?

This is a slowdown section, the beat is significantly less powerful than before. It should be mapped using lower spacing value, but you did the opposite and raised it for some reason (?).

The whole map seems to have overdone spacing with no moment for diversity in beat as well.

this part is calmer than other parts but still not really calm tho but considering that i believe it should be a bit easier to play than other parts instead of harder. For me its best to map there with 1/2 sliders only just like extra gd'er did it fits.
(00:36:279 - 00:36:594 - 00:36:910 - 00:37:226 - 00:37:542 - making these slider startings)

Fycho

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Fycho 2016-04-27T07:21:32+00:00

Hello, the concerns mentioned by fartownik and -Kanzaki seem valid to me, calmer parts require easier patterns. That whole part seems a bit overdone.

Please figure them out with the community members, good luck.

smallboat

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smallboat 2016-04-27T08:35:43+00:00

fartownik wrote:
00:35:647 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ?

This is a slowdown section, the beat is significantly less powerful than before. It should be mapped using lower spacing value, but you did the opposite and raised it for some reason (?).

The whole map seems to have overdone spacing with no moment for diversity in beat as well.

-Kanzaki wrote:
fartownik wrote:
00:35:647 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ?

This is a slowdown section, the beat is significantly less powerful than before. It should be mapped using lower spacing value, but you did the opposite and raised it for some reason (?).

The whole map seems to have overdone spacing with no moment for diversity in beat as well.
this part is calmer than other parts but still not really calm tho but considering that i believe it should be a bit easier to play than other parts instead of harder. For me its best to map there with 1/2 sliders only just like extra gd'er did it fits.
(00:36:279 - 00:36:594 - 00:36:910 - 00:37:226 - 00:37:542 - making these slider startings)

Sorry 2 guys I won't change this part here, I think it can do a jump pattern for these, and I agree Kanzaki says, but current rhythm looks fine to me. (Look the scoreboard, more than half players full combo, has any can't playable issue? )

If you really want me change these, then the custom diff stars will less than Kencho's diff, I feel this so meaningless.

Will discussion this issue with above 2 guys in tonight

-Kanzaki

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-Kanzaki 2016-04-27T11:14:23+00:00

The issue is not if it is full combo'able or not(It is not so hard to fc either for me or for fartownik), the reason of it what fycho said here

Fycho wrote:
calmer parts require easier patterns.

So after checking the overall of the map this part is harder than every other part while its the calmest, that is why.

smallboat

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smallboat 2016-04-27T12:04:17+00:00

-Kanzaki wrote:
The issue is not if it is full combo'able or not(It is not so hard to fc either for me or for fartownik), the reason of it what fycho said here

Fycho wrote:
calmer parts require easier patterns.
So after checking the overall of the map this part is harder than every other part while its the calmest, that is why.

Actually I map this song and I know this part is a bit calm, know the pattern distance should be reduce a bit, but the distance i already fix some with BNs at qualify this map before, if you still not so satisfy this point, mind comment the proper distance for this calm part let me know ? Thanks.

-Kanzaki

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-Kanzaki 2016-04-27T13:57:40+00:00

Well i wouldn't use only circles on that part and to make it calmer i would use more sliders but if you wanna keep the circles and i suggest you to use 2.1 DS with considering other parts and the slider that you emphasized with higher spacing is up to you again after with this spacing .

also i have other suggestion on other parts for this diff that can raise the SR again a bit:

--> 00:23:015 (1,2,3,4) - 00:49:700 (8,1) - 01:16:107 (1,2,1,2,1) - Using even higher spacing here would fit

--> 00:26:331 (4,5) - Hmm 5 should be emphasized i believe but it has same spacing with 3 and 4.

--> 00:31:384 (5,6) - Hmm i believe you emphasize with less spacing? wait but you used more spacing on 00:32:015 (2,3) - eh??

--> 00:45:594 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Hmm well you used less spacing on 2 to 3 and on 5 to 6 higher this thing is on everywhere so i believe its on purpose but i cant tell the reason of this change i feel same for 123 and 456 tho.

--> 00:28:384 (1) - 00:30:910 (3) - 00:32:173 (3) - Clap maybe. hmm i hear same sound on these with 00:31:542 (6) -

--> 01:10:384 (4) - Ctrl + g this maybe cause you change what you follow breaking the flow a bit would fit.

smallboat

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smallboat 2016-04-27T16:26:02+00:00

-Kanzaki wrote:
Well i wouldn't use only circles on that part and to make it calmer i would use more sliders but if you wanna keep the circles and i suggest you to use 2.1 DS with considering other parts and the slider that you emphasized with higher spacing is up to you again after with this spacing . I will follow your above suggestion to fix a bit for calm part pattern

also i have other suggestion on other parts for this diff that can raise the SR again a bit:

--> 00:23:015 (1,2,3,4) - 00:49:700 (8,1) - 01:16:107 (1,2,1,2,1) - Using even higher spacing here would fit Okay, enlarge a bit to fit this music part

--> 00:26:331 (4,5) - Hmm 5 should be emphasized i believe but it has same spacing with 3 and 4. Sure, make 4 far a bit with 5, move a bit.

--> 00:31:384 (5,6) - Hmm i believe you emphasize with less spacing? wait but you used more spacing on 00:32:015 (2,3) - eh?? Well, agree. Then keep the same DS for here

--> 00:45:594 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Hmm well you used less spacing on 2 to 3 and on 5 to 6 higher this thing is on everywhere so i believe its on purpose but i cant tell the reason of this change i feel same for 123 and 456 tho. Then I try 00:46:068 (3,6) - move a bit make a triangle pattern can make it play better.

--> 00:28:384 (1) - 00:30:910 (3) - 00:32:173 (3) - Clap maybe. hmm i hear same sound on these with 00:31:542 (6) - Okay, all added

--> 01:10:384 (4) - Ctrl + g this maybe cause you change what you follow breaking the flow a bit would fit. This flow seems too sharp not fit my style, keep this

Thanks -Kanzaki check, so useful check I almost apply to it

Btw already ask fartownik suggestion, change some issue

Thank 2 guys check again.

Ready to find 2 BNs to reb and requa it, all updated

ZZHBOY

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ZZHBOY 2016-04-28T07:32:30+00:00

rebub

Rizia

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Rizia 2016-04-28T08:31:03+00:00