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Bespinben - Fugitives Last Stand

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Hobbes2
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DeRandom Otaku
Timing :
  1. BPM : 180
  2. Offset : 184 (might be a bit different)

also i recommend u use 1/4 beat snap divisor
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Hobbes2

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Timing :
  1. BPM : 180
  2. Offset : 184 (might be a bit different)

also i recommend u use 1/4 beat snap divisor
Thanks for the post! The creator of the remix told me that the song was 179 BPM, but it does sound pretty good with 180 BPM and your offset. I'll try to figure this out.

EDIT - I think you're right. Gonna fix this. Thanks a ton.
DeRandom Otaku

Hobbes2 wrote:

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Timing :
  1. BPM : 180
  2. Offset : 184 (might be a bit different)

also i recommend u use 1/4 beat snap divisor
Thanks for the post! The creator of the remix told me that the song was 179 BPM, but it does sound pretty good with 180 BPM and your offset. I'll try to figure this out.

EDIT - I think you're right. Gonna fix this. Thanks a ton.
No probs , good luck mapping it c:
Supairo
I like this remix.

Blue - Praise (compliment, no need to change)
Orange - Suggestion (minor, maybe change it (if you don't want to change, just don't change it))
Red - Problem (important, need to change it (I heavily recomend that!))
Black - Other comment

General

  1. The main thing that bugs me is how the song abruptly ends. You should find a better mp3. Like the one I have on this link. Yeah I cut the original mp3 in half to fit with the length you chose and will include an good end to the song. Just right click it > "Save as..." and replace the old .mp3 with this one. You will need to change the Offset again, which should be 154 ms (if I'm wrong, just correct it).
    Do know that the following timestamps uses the old mp3 and offset (204 ms)!
  2. The title should be "Fugitives Last Stand" and nothing else. "Run Away Remix" can be in the tags.
  3. Speaking about tags, you should add "Arata Iiyoshi" and "Atsuhiro Ishizuna" since they were the original composers of this song. You should also remove every other word that appeared on any other field. This will include "mystery dungeon blue / red rescue team" and "fugitives last stand". Why not "Pokemon"? Well...
  4. On the Source field, you should replace "Pokemon" with "Pokémon". Yes, with the accent. Just copy the word from here and paste it on the editor.
  5. I think a countdown is unnecessary.
  6. Maybe you should add a Kiai Time between 00:13:537 - and 00:34:870 - . You can find it on the Timing Setup Panel, "Style" tab.
  7. You need to come up with hitsounds.
  8. A bit unrelated, but I don't know if those difficulty names are rankable. Sure, it's the Pikachu evolution line so it can give an idea of the difficulty order, but I'm not sure about that.

Pichu

  1. Try to get this difficulty below 1,50 stars.
  2. 00:08:203 (2,3) - You should arrange the sliders like this : http://puu.sh/ofrO7/f0f619adc6.jpg
  3. 00:12:203 (9) - This slider should end at the next white tick and not overlap with 00:14:037 (2) - Kind of looks ugly.
  4. 00:21:037 (1) - This spinner should end on the previous white tick.
  5. 00:24:204 (1,2,3) - I like those parallel sliders.
  6. 00:32:203 (5) - I'm sure you can come up with a better shape for this. Also it should end on a white tick, like the next one. You should add a hit circle after this slider at 00:34:870 - . It's also too far from the previous object. All objets should be separated by 1.2x as chosen.
  7. 00:36:203 (6) - Add NC here?
  8. 00:42:870 (4) - This slider would be better if it ended on the next white tick. It should also not overlap with 00:45:370 (2) - even if it's for a brief moment.
  9. 01:03:370 (4,5) - Those two should not overlap.
  10. 01:04:037 (5) - The timing of this one is way too weird for me. Maybe make it like this: http://puu.sh/oftWn/0141640141.jpg ? The shape of this slider is weird too.
  11. 01:06:787 (1) - You need to move this one on the next white tick (like pictured above).
  12. 01:04:037 (5,1) - Overlaps :o I may be nitpicky with things like this, but it's not really beautiful and can make things sometimes unrankable.
  13. 01:09:537 (1,2,3) - Were you trying to make something like this: http://puu.sh/ofuw3/e300dbac06.jpg ?
    Here is a list of the coordinates of each node to replicate it.
    1. 01:09:537 (1) - First slider
      1. x:240 y:200
      2. x:305 y:209
      3. x:339 y:248
    2. 01:10:870 (2) - Second slider
      1. x:170 y:246
      2. x:210 y:278
      3. x:262 y:280
    3. 01:12:203 (3) - Third slider
      1. x:170 y:162
      2. x:116 y:182
      3. x:88 y:233
  14. 01:14:287 (1) - Move the spinner like this: http://puu.sh/ofvak/ab511dda7c.jpg . It needs to ends when the music ends on the new mp3. That new hit circle is in option.

Pikachu

  1. The Circle Size is too small for a Normal! You need to make it between 3 and 4.
  2. HP Drain Rate, Approach Rate and Overall Difficulty are too high. Their maximum for a Normal is 5.
  3. The slider velocity seems slow in my opinion. Maybe speed it up to 1,00?
  4. Check for distances. They need to be the same in a normal.
  5. 00:10:370 (6) - Add NC here?
  6. 00:12:203 (13) - This slider should end on the next white tick.
  7. 00:13:787 (2,5,2) - No, no no. This is not good. Blue ticks should not be used like this. It could be too difficult for newer players. You should place them all on the next white tick.
  8. Same thing as previous diff.
  9. 00:24:203 (1,2,3) - Still like these sliders!
  10. 00:32:203 (6) - Sorry, the shape is just weird for me. Try to improve it!
  11. 00:32:203 (6,7,8,9) - You should avoid putting objets below sliders.
  12. 00:37:537 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - Same as above.
  13. 00:42:870 (4) - This should end on the next tick. Also, long straight sliders like these are not really good... Maybe change it to a curved slider?
  14. 00:47:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This part is weird. You should put some space between the notes instead of stacking them.
  15. 00:56:203 (1,2,4,5,7,8,1,2,4,5) - You should avoid putting objects below sliders like this.
  16. 01:03:787 (9,10,11) - You need to move these three to the next ticks.
  17. 01:06:870 (1,2,4,5) - Avoid putting objets like this. Make some space between them.
  18. 01:14:203 (1) - Same comment as in the Pichu difficulty.

Raichu

  1. The gap between the Pikachu diff and the Raichu diff is too high! (>1,50 stars) You need to make it easier!
  2. 00:12:120 (8,9) - You should move this to the next tick.
  3. 00:14:870 (5,6,1,2,5,6) - Nice sliders! :D
  4. 00:37:537 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These could be improved. Try doing something similar to 00:36:204 (1,2,3,4) - (As it was nicely shaped) and use the "Rotate by..." function in the "Edit" menu.
  5. 00:42:537 (3) - This slider is going too far! You need to put the end on the white tick!
  6. 00:58:870 (3,4,6,7) - Nice sliders! :D
  7. 01:06:870 (1,2) - Same comment as above.
  8. 01:12:204 (1) - Why is this spinner longer than in the other diffs? It doesn't really make sense... Normally it's the other way around (long spinners for easier diffs and short spinners with some notes behind for harder diffs). Just sayin. You still need to end it a the same point as the others.
    I'm not really good with hards...
Sorry if I can't help more but this should correct some of the problems your map have.
Good luck with this! :)
Topic Starter
Hobbes2

koopa712 wrote:

I like this remix.

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Sorry if I can't help more but this should correct some of the problems your map have.
Good luck with this! :)
Thank you so much! I made a lot of changes based on the mod you gave. I appreciate it very much.
Flake
Hey~ from #modreqs
M4M :D
Song to mod : t/440191

Hard
00:43:314 :arrow: end this slider onto 00:43:814
00:43:981 :arrow: map this short break
01:17:481 :arrow: end the spinner here
Normal
00:33:481 :arrow: end the slider here
from 00:34:147 :arrow: 00:34:814, map it :D
00:43:481 :arrow: end slider here
01:05:481 :arrow: end slider here
01:17:481 :arrow: end spinner here
Easy
00:02:481 :arrow: move the circle before here
00:07:814 :arrow: move circle before here
00:11:981 :arrow: move slider here
00:21:314 :arrow: move spinner here
00:23:481 :arrow: end spinner here
00:45:147 :arrow: (1,2,3) move these two guys on to the white line on their right 8-)
01:04:147 :arrow: (6) - end this slider here 01:05:481
01:17:481 :arrow: end the spinner here

Took some time to complete this mod, hope you get to achieve what you'd need :):D8-)
Topic Starter
Hobbes2

crystalinfusion wrote:

Hey~ from #modreqs
M4M :D
Song to mod : t/440191

Hard
00:43:314 :arrow: end this slider onto 00:43:814 Good suggestion
00:43:981 :arrow: map this short break done
01:17:481 :arrow: end the spinner here done
Normal
00:33:481 :arrow: end the slider here
from 00:34:147 :arrow: 00:34:814, map it :D i think i prefer how it is now
00:43:481 :arrow: end slider here prefer how it is now
01:05:481 :arrow: end slider here done
01:17:481 :arrow: end spinner here done
Easy
00:02:481 :arrow: move the circle before here done
00:07:814 :arrow: move circle before here done
00:11:981 :arrow: move slider here for some reason i was mapping the piano part instead of the melody lol, done
00:21:314 :arrow: move spinner here
00:23:481 :arrow: end spinner here good idea, done
00:45:147 :arrow: (1,2,3) move these two guys on to the white line on their right 8-)not sure what you mean
01:04:147 :arrow: (6) - end this slider here 01:05:481 done
01:17:481 :arrow: end the spinner here done

Took some time to complete this mod, hope you get to achieve what you'd need :):D8-)
thanks for the mod! implemented many of the suggestions
MrFrenchFagget
Hi, do you have the link for the remix? because i try to find it but i dont find it anywhere, thank you :)

Oh and the map is really nice
Topic Starter
Hobbes2

MrFrenchFagget wrote:

Hi, do you have the link for the remix? because i try to find it but i dont find it anywhere, thank you :)

Oh and the map is really nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhK6F_I_q_A

Here's the original video
Tacto
Hello here from Mod Req. I hope i can help out in some way :D

00:02:148 (5,1,2,3,4) - this could be a smooth curve and i think it would flow better

00:02:981 (5,6) - the slider could be going more upward so that it doesn't feel like a sharp directional change. but its fine if you leave it

00:05:314 (3,4,5,6) - I fell like this has little flow. i would suggest changing it to something that has more
maybe something like this :


00:07:648 (1,2) - weird flow

00:08:981 (1,2,3,4,5) - i dont like this particularly bc it hasn't shown up before and there is nothing new in the music that would call for it. id suggest just making it another stream

00:12:148 (8,9) - You could separate theses a little more so it is easier to read. or you could remove 9 and extend 8's repeat length

01:03:981 (11) - new combo

overall: not a bad map just seems like its in a 2012-2013 mapping style which is just different then what the standards are for maps today (even though i like the old mapping style).
00:03:648 (5) - New combo

00:07:647 (1,2) - this seems weird. i think it would flow better if the repeat slider ended and the next slider was going in the retaliative same direction rather than in a different direction

00:11:981 (7,8) - remove 7 and make 8 start where 7 started (make it one big slider)

00:17:481 (4,5) - weird flow

00:24:148 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i like this part :)

00:31:814 (4,5,6,7) - i think this would feel better if it looked like this


00:47:981 (3,4,5,6,7) - could tweak to flow better

00:52:981 (7) - new combo

Overall: Id like to see the notes after sliders flow better but besides that the map isn't bad.

The maps seem like they are in the older style (which isnt that bad since they are lower diffs) but the flow seems off at points. Not a bad mapset i enjoyed it :P. Best wishes-Bulldog
Topic Starter
Hobbes2

Bulldog wrote:

Hello here from Mod Req. I hope i can help out in some way :D

00:02:148 (5,1,2,3,4) - this could be a smooth curve and i think it would flow better

00:02:981 (5,6) - the slider could be going more upward so that it doesn't feel like a sharp directional change. but its fine if you leave it

00:05:314 (3,4,5,6) - I fell like this has little flow. i would suggest changing it to something that has more
maybe something like this :


00:07:648 (1,2) - weird flow

00:08:981 (1,2,3,4,5) - i dont like this particularly bc it hasn't shown up before and there is nothing new in the music that would call for it. id suggest just making it another stream

00:12:148 (8,9) - You could separate theses a little more so it is easier to read. or you could remove 9 and extend 8's repeat length

01:03:981 (11) - new combo

overall: not a bad map just seems like its in a 2012-2013 mapping style which is just different then what the standards are for maps today (even though i like the old mapping style).
00:03:648 (5) - New combo

00:07:647 (1,2) - this seems weird. i think it would flow better if the repeat slider ended and the next slider was going in the retaliative same direction rather than in a different direction

00:11:981 (7,8) - remove 7 and make 8 start where 7 started (make it one big slider)

00:17:481 (4,5) - weird flow

00:24:148 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i like this part :)

00:31:814 (4,5,6,7) - i think this would feel better if it looked like this


00:47:981 (3,4,5,6,7) - could tweak to flow better

00:52:981 (7) - new combo

Overall: Id like to see the notes after sliders flow better but besides that the map isn't bad.

The maps seem like they are in the older style (which isnt that bad since they are lower diffs) but the flow seems off at points. Not a bad mapset i enjoyed it :P. Best wishes-Bulldog
I liked a lot of these suggestions and implemented a majority of them. Thank you for your post!
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