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Yooh - Dynasty -da capo- [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
Backfire
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, June 10, 2016 at 10:17:01 PM

Artist: Yooh
Title: Dynasty -da capo-
Source: SOUND VOLTEX BOOTH
Tags: SDVX qoot qoot8123 ULTIMATE TRACKS -LEGEND OF KAC-
BPM: 189
Filesize: 9414kb
Play Time: 06:03
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collab Oni (5.48 stars, 2570 notes)
Download: Yooh - Dynasty -da capo-
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Collaboration with me and qoot8123.
Topic Starter
Backfire
Nwolf
potato

[General]

Rename to Collab Oni, nobody uses "taiko" in diff name anymore pls (or just Collab)

Please mark the parts each of you mapped since that is relevant to RC

About volume, to say it short it sucks. It's too loud in some and too quiet in other parts.

04:58:636 - Remove this red bar it is wrong

Volume suggestions
00:21:176 - add 90% volume
01:27:208 - add 90% volume
02:40:858 - 90% volume
02:56:096 - 100% volume
03:57:048 - 70% volume and keep until 04:12:286 -
04:12:286 - 90% volume
04:27:524 - 100% volume, keep til end

[Diff]

00:01:493 (3) - 00:02:763 (7) - 00:04:033 (11) - 00:05:303 (15) - Change all of these into dons. Except that they sound weird, they don't really add much. The benefit of doing this is that 00:05:938 (18,20) - these will be FAR more noticeable as they are the first kats and fit to the bell sound.
  1. While we are at the bell sound, you could then 00:07:208 (22) - change this into a kat so we have 4 ongoing bell kats
  2. This also means 00:09:112 (28) - 00:10:382 (32) - 00:11:652 (37) - 00:12:922 (41) - 00:14:192 (46) - 00:15:462 (51) - should be changed to dons
00:15:303 (50) - I don't get why there is a don placed here. The others make sense cause they go down to a downbeat, but this one... not. Would suggest to move it to 00:14:668 - here for consistency. OR you add one 00:14:668 - here so you build up to the harder part starting 00:16:097 - here.

00:28:239 (50) - move this 00:28:081 - here to keep rhythm consistent, this is a damn evil rhythm breaker. (00:23:001 - !!)
00:28:874 (55) - Same as above, move 00:28:716 - here and also change to a kat. More interesting to play too imo
00:32:684 (83) - Same, move 00:32:525 - here
00:34:351 (96,97) - Change to dons so you have something different from 00:33:716 (91,92,93) - . Alternatively only change 00:34:430 (97) - to don
00:35:065 - Add a don here to keep the triplet rhythm consistent, it's missing here. 00:34:985 (101) - Change to don then
00:37:763 (123) - Move this 00:37:605 - here; 00:38:874 - add note

00:42:922 - 00:44:192 - 00:48:001 - 00:49:271 - 00:50:541 - Why is there no note in all these spots? You should fill all of these simply to follow melody, drums... everything is pretty continuous in the song.

00:43:239 (15,16,17,18,19) - I don't see any reason to justify this being monocolor? Make it... non-monocolor
00:44:827 (27) - Kat for rhythm or sth
00:46:176 - Might wanna add a don here for melody as well, seems to fit. (00:48:795 (56,57,58,59,60) - )
00:49:033 (59) - Move 00:48:716 - here and 00:49:112 (60) - change to don, fits drums more and gives the downbeat more impact. It's the only one without a bell that is a kat.
00:51:255 - Add a don here maybe to have a 7-plet preparing for this more intense part!
00:53:636 (97,100) - Suggesting to swap these two (making it kdd kkd) because the melody goes up (00:56:097 (118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125) - like this)
00:55:303 (111,112) - Swap these two so you keep having a kat on the white tick. Plays nicer
00:56:652 (124) - move this 00:56:335 - here and change 00:56:732 (125) - this to a big kat so it's consistent with 00:58:001 (135) -

01:01:811 - Move this green line 01:01:890 - here so the note here comes a normal pace still. Fits as it is a strong sound.

01:47:525 (283,284,285) - 01:48:795 (290,291,292) - Why are these big notes while there are none 01:52:605 - 01:53:874 - here? Either have less big notes at the first two spots or remove notes in the other two to make space for big notes. I would suggest to do latter because the song doesn't get that intense so suddenly and there's a huge fall of density 01:57:684 - here.

01:48:478 (286,287,288,289) - Also Lno is right that these make no sense, why? 01:48:478 - There is no sound suggesting 1/6 here, there only is 01:48:636 - here. Somewhat, actually also not really. Seeing as qoot also didn't map 1/6 here, I'd just go with a 1/1 note 01:48:478 - here or remove the 1/6 notes to make it d k. You can then add a note 01:48:557 - here if you feel like it's needed.
01:52:287 (312,313,314,315) - Same story. The sound you are probably mapping to starts 01:52:446 - here so the 1/6 really makes no sense. I'd suggest not having here 1/6 at all because again, there is no real 1/6 here; additionally not having 1/6 here will make the existing 1/6 far more noticeable (03:53:080 (88,89,90,91) - for example)

02:10:382 - 02:25:461 - why is this part so much more dense than 02:25:620 - 02:40:699 - ? The 2nd part even barely has 1/4 triplets, making the difference even bigger.

02:48:635 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68) - what is this? There is nothing that has 1/4 and you map monocolor on it which covers up the song too much, even more than having different colors. Remove notes, maybe make it a triplet at most.
02:50:540 (79,80,81,82,83,84,85) - same

03:00:858 (78,79,80,81,82,83,84) - This 7-plet also makes no sense, it's even the only 7-plet in your part. Split it up.
03:07:524 (135,136,137,138,139) - Why does this 5-plet start on a downbeat? If we were to consider the rest of the kiai it should be a 5-plet starting 03:07:207 - here. Remove 03:07:604 (136) - , add notes 03:07:286 - and 03:07:445 - .
03:11:334 (1) - big kat please :V (03:18:953 (66) - !!)

03:30:699 (155,156,157,158) - Add some notes here, preferably 03:31:175 -
03:39:985 (200) - Move 03:39:826 - here and change to don. Consistent 1/4 rhythm, this is random.

03:57:048 - Overlapping notes due to SV! Either 03:56:413 - 03:56:731 - reduce SV here or make a softer SV slowdown starting 03:57:048 - here and going to like, 03:57:683 - .

04:03:239 (14) - change to kat to follow the melody with 04:03:397 (15) -

04:48:158 - Increase the SV from here to 04:50:063 - by 0.03 instead of 0.05, so that at the end you don't have overlapping notes (with 04:50:857 (9) - being readable as a 1/4 note belonging to 04:51:016 (1,2,3) - , confusing the player)
--> after that you can add a note 04:50:777 - here for the drums tbh

05:07:683 (148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156) - eeeeh this is the only 9-plet in your part, which seems weird considering that there should be more (05:09:588 - ) but there are far less notes. I'd suggest removing 05:07:921 (151) - it will fit good with 05:07:048 (143,144,145,146,147) -

05:16:731 (221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229) - Why does this exist? It's waaaaaaaay too much than the song gives away and is also overly complicated (aka plays weird). You do not hear to what this is supposed to be mapped to anymore, I'd split it up into triplets by removing 05:16:969 (224) - 05:17:286 (228) - these. This is also because there is not nearly as much 05:24:032 - here

05:26:175 (315,318) - Change to kats to make this stream play nicer

05:35:382 (64,68) - Trade these two, plays much more nicer (I mean come on a double kat starting on blue tick ;_;)
05:37:683 (90,92) - why are these big notes, they seem pretty random considering the rest is mapped as 1/4
05:39:350 (104) - Remove to make 05:39:429 (105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112) - more noticeable (melody does 1/4 here!!)

05:44:350 - why does the SV increase here, like there's nothing in the song except that it actually calms down.

going to watch zootopia, finishing mod after that

mod finished

good luck~
Topic Starter
Backfire
Applied some, left a little for qoot, left some for me, applied SV changes for mods and stuff. Applied bookmarks. I guess waiting now for nwolf to finish the mod.
ptar124
Hi! Backfire, here's the M4M you asked for. Don't expect too much from me though orz I'm still pretty new after all.

00:16:890 (59,60,61,62) - Suggestion: you sure you don't want to add any kats in between? same for 00:18:160 (68,69,70,71)
00:55:462 (119) - you might want to make this a kat so that you keep the k-downbeat motif going on the part and just in case, 118 could be a don
02:01:335 - If you add a note here, I think that it would emphasize this gap at 01:58:795 better
03:06:889 (130,131,132,133) - I would recommend k-d-k-d if you're following the melody, if you're going with the rhythm then ignore it
03:20:858 (82) - finish?
04:11:651 (53,54,55,56,57,58,59) - I really don't know why this is here, besides, it's a bit of a choke for some players, I would recommend you to change that in one way or another
05:38:317 (96) - I don't think it's significant enough to be put after a triplet, I think that either remove 95 or remove finish would be a nice solution

First of all, I know I don't give lots of mods, that's because given that you and qoot are much more experienced than I (having no ranked maps and several graveyarded), I assume that you know what makes a good map. Therefore, I can make a complete arshe of myself if I meddle too much XD. Love this map to bits! GL for Approval.

P.S. Believe it or not, I actually used a lot of effort despite the short mod, hope you're not mad, and sorry for my low self-esteem, I just can't help it.
Surono
Hi, I Here as M4M

>General
* Put collab part on decs of map? so ppl know wheres qoot and your part.

>Collab Oni
* 00:19:668 - move to 00:19:589 - here? thats double beat is clearly and main sound on here. also 00:19:589 (79,80) - change this kat for emphasize that beat?
* 00:19:985 - kat would better on high piano 00:19:906 - and effect from this beat, 00:20:303 - bcus this piano started down sound
* 00:21:652 - 00:24:192 - I think is better as ddd and dkd would nice for just bell sound 00:26:732 - 00:36:414 - , and you can started dkd from 00:29:271 - here.
* 00:32:446 - kat? 00:32:287 - to follow this similar sound and I rare to find kdd pattern on here lol
* 00:34:351 - don? kkd over with emphasize, better one kkd like 00:33:716 - this sound
* 00:36:890 (116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124) - and why this pattern placement differ with previously?
* 01:05:620 - just kat, I think some sounds on here needs to fill notes. 01:05:700 - ddk, 01:06:097 - dd?
* 01:25:938 (93,94,95) - why not fill finisher? its cymbal sound
* 01:32:128 (143,144,145) - I think is better with ddd, 01:31:493 (137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145) - from here looks fine with variation at sound
* 01:48:478 - delete? since this has no beat. and looks nice for empty place and for 01:48:636 - this effect
* 01:52:287 - same above, 01:52:366 - from here is fit with xx patterns
* 02:37:683 - kat for that drum and to follow of flow?
* 02:48:635 (62,63) - I think this need kat for emphasize that instrument
* 02:50:620 - and same above, or 02:50:540 - this
* 03:00:937 - change to don? I just feels is is low sound and differ with previous
* 03:04:191 - change to kat? it for high sound
* 03:57:207 - delete it? its unnecessary sound.
* 04:44:666 (226,227) - swap it? 04:44:349 (225,226) - same sound
* 04:46:571 (237,238) - same above
* 05:22:285 (276,277) - swap? match sound is better imo
* 05:49:984 (178,179) - swap? same above with reason

map with unique varies lol
GLuck!
Topic Starter
Backfire

ptar124 wrote:

Hi! Backfire, here's the M4M you asked for. Don't expect too much from me though orz I'm still pretty new after all.

00:16:890 (59,60,61,62) - Suggestion: you sure you don't want to add any kats in between? same for 00:18:160 (68,69,70,71)
no I don't

00:55:462 (119) - you might want to make this a kat so that you keep the k-downbeat motif going on the part and just in case, 118 could be a don
that's not the same thing, it is related to the part next to it.

02:01:335 - If you add a note here, I think that it would emphasize this gap at 01:58:795 better
I think it's alright, I don't want to make it too dense.

03:06:889 (130,131,132,133) - I would recommend k-d-k-d if you're following the melody, if you're going with the rhythm then ignore it
03:20:858 (82) - finish?
I didn't use for other spots, so nope

04:11:651 (53,54,55,56,57,58,59) - I really don't know why this is here, besides, it's a bit of a choke for some players, I would recommend you to change that in one way or another
lol what are you talking about, it's fit to the music and really easy.

05:38:317 (96) - I don't think it's significant enough to be put after a triplet, I think that either remove 95 or remove finish would be a nice solution
I don't even know how that got there, thank you.

First of all, I know I don't give lots of mods, that's because given that you and qoot are much more experienced than I (having no ranked maps and several graveyarded), I assume that you know what makes a good map. Therefore, I can make a complete arshe of myself if I meddle too much XD. Love this map to bits! GL for Approval.

P.S. Believe it or not, I actually used a lot of effort despite the short mod, hope you're not mad, and sorry for my low self-esteem, I just can't help it.
Thanks bud.

Add only 2 things from surono mod, because, for many parts, there was intentionally left don or kat or something. I did add some more finishers, but mostly, this is pattern map and not exclusively going with music. It is along with the music, mostly. Some special stuff in it too, but mostly, we tried to make it a little different. Like, to explain, on some parts where it should be kats, we did the opposite, which in the end achieves the same effect. I hopefully won't have to change this, because I don't think this is rather only a stylistic choice, but a choice for gameplay and style.
nyanmi-1828
Hi~ From my Queue~ :)

General
04:27:524 - 04:41:810 I think this kiai time not need.

Collab
01:26:811 - Delete No sound here
01:42:049 - add d
02:00:065 - Delete? umm...No sound?
04:00:699 - k
04:06:572 - ^ to follow high pitch.
英語下手ですみません

This map very good :)

Good luck! :D
Topic Starter
Backfire

nyanmi-1828 wrote:

Hi~ From my Queue~ :)

General
04:27:524 - 04:41:810 I think this kiai time not need.

Collab
01:26:811 - Delete No sound here
01:42:049 - add d
02:00:065 - Delete? umm...No sound?
04:00:699 - k
04:06:572 - ^ to follow high pitch.
英語下手ですみません

This map very good :)

Good luck! :D
Thanks so much Nyanmi! I added all but second change. I also will keep Kiai, I think it's fine because it's an important moment in the music <3
HimemiyaChikane
Hi from my queue.

[Collab Oni]
00:16:890 (59,60,61,62) - change to kk kd?
00:18:160 (68,69,70,71) - ^
00:19:430 (77,78,79,80) - ^
00:58:636 (147) - change to d?
03:25:223 (124) - change to d?
03:55:461 (110,111,112,113) - How about kddd?
04:31:175 (106) - change to k?

It's so amazing that there has such a small number of place to mod it.Well mapped!
I hope my mod can help you,I will be upset if the mod in low quality.
Good luck for approved and here's my map for M4M: t/442842 :)
Topic Starter
Backfire

HimemiyaChikane wrote:

Hi from my queue.

[Collab Oni]
00:16:890 (59,60,61,62) - change to kk kd?
00:18:160 (68,69,70,71) - ^
00:19:430 (77,78,79,80) - ^
00:58:636 (147) - change to d?
03:25:223 (124) - change to d?
03:55:461 (110,111,112,113) - How about kddd?
04:31:175 (106) - change to k?

It's so amazing that there has such a small number of place to mod it.Well mapped!
I hope my mod can help you,I will be upset if the mod in low quality.
Good luck for approved and here's my map for M4M: t/442842 :)
Seems honestly nothing here will fit for me but I very very much appreciate you looking at it! :) Thank you so much. I will KD anyways, because you gave me ideas for maybe some changes but not at this moment.
Ney
random mod just because

also this is my first mod so go easy on me


Collab Oni
  1. 00:41:493 (4) - change to K to fit whatever the hell that instrument is

  2. 00:46:414 (43) - change to k for the synth

  3. 00:52:922 (98) - change to d since i don't hear any pitch changes or emphasis on anything

  4. 00:57:525 (138,139,140,141) - ddkdd for buildup into the long stream?

  5. 00:58:795 (148,149,150,151) - ddkkk, same idea ^

  6. 02:14:032 - could add a d here

  7. 02:21:810 (72) - change to k because of pitch

  8. 02:55:778 (33,34,35,36,37) - change to dkkkD to fit the synth

  9. 03:57:366 (122) - change to k because of pitch

  10. 04:14:191 (10) - change to k, same idea ^

  11. 04:46:095 (235) - change to k, same idea ^

  12. 04:56:730 (53,54) - change to ddd d to fit the background instrument and for flow


fun map and fun song, gl
Topic Starter
Backfire
apllied most except the first 2 and second to last 2
Shyguy
Hey there, this is just a small little check. Some things will probably sound a little nitpicky, but that's because I can't really find much to argue about.

Mod
02:37:683 (152,153,154) - I'd maybe switch this 1/2 section to a kdk. In my opinion, it sounds better than having the same dkd there twice.

03:51:334 (77) - I feel like somehow you could make use of finishers at this section. Maybe try putting them at 77, 79, and 85?

04:12:128 (59) - Maybe you could fill this empty space with a don? There's a sound playing here, and I feel it'd play to the music more fully.

04:43:397 (217) - Right here you could use a lower volume until combo 224, it caught me off guard at first because I could barely hear the music with my settings lol

04:45:301 (228) - ^ to 235?

That's all I have to say, gl for rank! That ending is also hella fun dude!
OzzyOzrock
[hi]
  1. Disable countdown and letterbox, because habits.
  2. 01:16:255 (41,42,43) - Doesn't kd d work better with the pitch? Also, why is 01:14:192 (33) - d if the other ones that are exactly the same are k?
  3. 01:29:906 (123,124,125,126,127) - I think d d kkd works way better than d kkd d in this part. I know you do it later, but I really think it should always be like that, since the other one sounds pretty bad.
  4. 01:48:478 (287,288) - Since this part kind of lacks any individuality besides 1/2, deleting these notes to follow how the drums stop could be a nice touch. The other similar parts that follow are fine because they actually have 1/4 and stuff.
  5. 02:00:065 - Add k? The change in mapper is really obvious here hahahaha
  6. 03:47:207 (45,46,47,48) - and 03:48:159 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60) - are different from parts like 03:44:350 (21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33) - . Is there a reason? I think it would be better to keep the density the same since the song doesn't make any big changes.
  7. 04:29:588 (95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106) - This part isn't very dense, which is kind of random since the rest of the kiai is.
Thanks for no double 1/6 at the end.
Topic Starter
Backfire
Applied all mods, thank u.
OzzyOzrock
how about u use the right fucking BG size of 1366x768
Topic Starter
Backfire
ok i updated it
OzzyOzrock
hey here come dat bubble! #1
Nwolf
oʇɐʇod

[General]

Source: SOUND VOLTEX BOOTH

'tis a marathon please use HP5 or 4 thanks bai

04:12:286 - keep this at 1x SV, then the kiai + SV has a bigger impact

[Diff]

00:24:271 (23) - Change this to kat to be consistent with 00:29:351 (59) - 00:34:430 (97) -

00:47:128 - Different rhythm from last time, could be a little bit critical. Last time being 00:41:970 (7,8,9,10,11) - . I'd suggest adding a don in mentioned place.
--> 00:49:668 - ^ (one more triplet each time hehe)

01:37:366 (189) - Crash sound like 01:25:938 (93,94,95) - so this could be a big note as well.
--> 01:47:525 (282) - ^

01:52:763 (319,322,324) - Change all of these into kats and 01:52:922 (320) - into don. This will create a nicer rhythm especial when considering 01:47:525 (282,283,284,285,286,287,288,289,290,291,292,293,294) - these.
--> 01:54:033 (330,333) - Change these to kats and 01:54:192 (331,332) - to dons

02:00:224 (3) - Same sound as 01:57:684 (1) - , should be a big don.
02:23:635 (83) - Please delete this note. It's the only 1/4 in this part that is not present in this song and it would be much nicer if it stayed like that, then the focus really lies on the dkd 1/4.

03:05:064 - Kinda expected a kat here or something because up until this point there wasn't such a "long" series of 1/2 notes without 1/4
03:06:969 - OR 03:07:286 - ^ but don here prob. I like it better in the first spot

03:48:001 (49,50) - Trade these two notes. This is the only time where the strings aren't mapped with a kat and it's a big rhythm breaker.

03:57:048 (118) - Please please please have a big note here, it signals a new part better and suits the previous three notes.
04:11:334 (52) - Kat would fit the pitch here nicer and would also create a pattern with the last 7 big tick notes: k d k d d k d k. C:

04:14:667 - Add don here to be consistent with the rest of this whole section. Too much 1/1 only

04:35:143 (141) - 04:37:048 (158) - Could both be big kats as there's a fitting sound in the song again, which is similar to 04:27:524 (78) -

05:05:460 (134,135,136,137,138) - Any reason why there are no 1/4 here? Compared with the rest of kiai this is surprising. 04:58:317 (66,67,68,69,70,71,72) - To name an example.
05:10:063 (173) - 05:11:968 (187) - Potential finishers again.
05:13:079 (195,197,199) - Maybe delete these notes to give 05:13:238 (196,198) - these two notes more importance? Melody is pretty quiet here imo.

06:00:539 (277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288) - Technically in place of the kat doublets in this stream there should be 1/6 and the 1/4 don connections should be gone. Technically. Just pointing it out.


weff
Topic Starter
Backfire
applied all, also put a 1.25x speed up at the end (I think it got changed somehow??)
Nwolf
take my new BN bubble virginity

#2
JUDYDANNY
Hi ( ・∀・)ノ

[BG]
moved ... 0,80~0,100? I cant look the girl..

[Note]
qoot
  1. 01:23:874 (81) - maybe change to d? to be consistency with other same bass places.
  2. 04:10:699 (50) - how about change to k? plays and sounds better imo, just my opinion lol.

    Cleaned theory ww
Backfire
  1. 01:56:573 (351,352,353) - inverted , kkd? to be consistent with other violins and flow.
    or ...01:36:097 (177,178,179,180) - ddk-d instead?
  2. 02:55:143 (31) - how about change to K? just my opinonslol , pitch is low to next D.
  3. 02:58:794 (60,61,62) - change to ddk?
    To avoid much kkd sounds and consistency with synthesizer (sudden followed drums on there).
  4. 03:01:810 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98) - how about k-ddd-k-ddd-k-ddk-d... flow..?http://puu.sh/poofe/210376dca1.jpg
    - To avoid the same 02:59:905 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - , and expression the lower pitch.
  5. 03:04:032 (105,106,107,108) - how about k-dkd? it looks better imo..? to link..03:06:096 (123,124,125) - kdk flows..?

  6. 05:23:079 (286,287) - change to k? to follow the synshesizer pich high > low.
  7. 05:28:952 (343) - change to k?
Looks goood.
Nice collaboration map ヾ(๑>◡<)ノ"
JUDYDANNY
OK, Good Luck(¦3[___]
Charlotte
Congratz :)
Kyouren
Gratzz :3
Surono
congrats! :lol:
Topic Starter
Backfire
thanks everyone \o/
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