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[Mini-Guide] Warm up theories and practice

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Topic Starter
-Makishima S-
Hello,

Since lately we had topic about warm up in osu!, I would like to share some useful knowledge about this. First of all, one disclaimer:

I will not give you any maps to warm up on, if you expect maps, this is wrong place to search for.

Guide in centered around theory of how your body and mind should prepare for playing high pressure and muscle load. Additionally I will provide videos of experienced person showing up how should look your warm up BEFORE you even start playing and while you are doing this.

1. Why warm up

Human body is not used to “tap” 200 bpm constantly without destroying your tendons. Exception goes for people who actively play sports with impact on the muscles and tendons of hands. For this you need to prepare so you lower any chance to get CTS / RSI due your actions. Let’s start from basic knowledge about CTS:

Carpal Tunnel Theory
Carpal tunnel syndrome occurs as a result of compression of the median nerve.
The median nerve runs from your forearm through a passageway in your wrist (carpal tunnel) to your hand. It provides sensation to the palm side of your thumb and fingers, with the exception of your little finger. It also provides nerve signals to move the muscles around the base of your thumb (motor function).
In general, anything that crowds, irritates or compresses the median nerve in the carpal tunnel space can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome. For example, a wrist fracture can narrow the carpal tunnel and irritate the nerve, as can the swelling and inflammation resulting from rheumatoid arthritis.
In many cases, no single cause can be identified. It may be that a combination of risk factors contributes to the development of the condition.
A number of factors have been associated with carpal tunnel syndrome. Although by themselves they don't cause carpal tunnel syndrome, they may increase your chances of developing or aggravating median nerve damage. These include:

- Anatomic factors. A wrist fracture or dislocation that alters the space within the carpal tunnel can create extraneous pressure on the median nerve.
People with smaller carpal tunnels may be more likely to have carpal tunnel syndrome.
- Nerve-damaging conditions. Some chronic illnesses, such as diabetes, increase your risk of nerve damage, including damage to your median nerve.
- Inflammatory conditions. Illnesses that are characterized by inflammation, such as rheumatoid arthritis, can affect the tendons in your wrist, exerting pressure on your median nerve.
- Alterations in the balance of body fluids. Fluid retention, common during pregnancy or menopause, may increase the pressure within your carpal tunnel, irritating the median nerve. Carpal tunnel syndrome associated with pregnancy generally resolves on its own after pregnancy.
- Other medical conditions. Certain conditions, such as menopause, obesity, thyroid disorders and kidney failure, may increase your chances of carpal tunnel syndrome.
- Workplace factors. It's possible that working with vibrating tools or on an assembly line that requires prolonged or repetitive flexing of the wrist may create harmful pressure on the median nerve or worsen existing nerve damage.

Some usefull information about RSI
The term RSI covers a myriad of complaints. There are almost as many RSIs as there are movable parts of the human body. This article will focus predominantly on those that are caused by working environments, sports and modern technological devices.

RSIs are conditions associated with repetitive tasks, forceful exertions, vibrations, mechanical compression and sustained or awkward positions.

General terms applied to RSIs include repetitive stress injury, repetitive motion injuries, repetitive motion disorder (RMD), cumulative trauma disorder (CTD), occupational overuse syndrome, overuse syndrome and regional musculoskeletal disorder.

Other, more colloquial terms for modern RSIs include Blackberry thumb, iPod finger, PlayStation thumb, Rubik's wrist or cuber's thumb, stylus finger, raver's wrist and Emacs pinky.

Here are some key points about RSI. More detail and supporting information is in the main article.

- RSIs come in a vast array of different forms.
- Each RSI might require different courses of action to treat and prevent.
- The first medical practitioner to talk about RSIs did so in 1700.
- Modern technological devices have caused an upswing in RSIs.
- Repetitive motions in one anatomical region can affect musculature in a separate area of the body.
- Psychological stress and monotony can worsen the symptoms of RSIs.
- Workplace ergonomics can prevent a wide array of RSIs.
- In some cases, medication and even surgery can ease symptoms.

Basically before you even start playing you should optimize your workspace. Let’s assume you already done this, your position is optimized to allow your hands to move freely without creating artificial additional load for muscles. It's important if you want to save your hands and arms from devastation in long term gameplay.

Proper warm up should make your gameplay more enjoyable while lowering tiredness of your body and allowing you to slowly push limits in more safe way. Why only “more safe way”? Because there is no rule – each person body is different, each person body reacts different way for certain amount of load caused by playing high bpm / intensive maps / gimmick what require a lot of aiming hand movement. That simply explain why person X is able to play 240-260 bpm Double Time faster than person Y who struggle with 200 bpm nomod maps. For both players exist chance of getting CTS / RSI. Additionally there is no rule about "who get's this injures" - from facts we know that for example Azer / Index as players mainly focused on mid range bpm HR plays are affected by RSI, same as for example Reimu-desu as main Double Time player also got affected by it.

You should never come into this type of game with mindset "i am young, i will not get RSI". This type of injuries are very random and computer users have so far higest precentage chance to be affected. Now add to this fact, that you are repetitvely hitting 2 keys in one steady hand position and here it goes - even higher chance.

2. How to start – warming up your wrist, hand, fingers

I will let Dr Levi Harrison (with all my respect to his extreme knowledge and nice personality) explain way of warming up your hands:







For most players this might look “boring” / “unnecessary” but as player with medically diagnosed RSI Type 2 (foreign body in soft tissue of the fourth phalanx) which is my main tapping finger (I am ring + index player) – this exercises helped me a lot to relax and lower pain created by playing higher bpm a lot. It actually took me back to playing this game after I was almost unable to even properly write on keyboard. Don’t ask me about surgery things in my case, it’s not the point.

Main thing of this point is that as someone already affected by RSI i try to visualize you that this isn't something what you should ever ignore and disrespect. Better spend 5 min exercising your hands each hour of gameplay and be safe than ignore this and put yourself on potential injury.

I recommend doing this exercises every 45-60 min of your gameplay. Remember – being in good health will only rise satisfaction from game.

3. Warming up in game

First of all - before you ever start, ask yourself - am i good mindset? I am not asking about "stupid meme mindset, fuck this kids, really, don't listen to them". Right mindset mean that you can focus mainly on gameplay, put your eyes on screen, follow what is going on and will not get distracted by things outside your mind-zone. Why this is important - focusing on how you play makes huge difference in how much time getting your muscle memory into state "when you finished playing last time" will take. Same as your progress later on. Before you start playing, i recommend to you to fix your real life issues which may cause great distraction to your mind and take you away from focusing on gameplay.

If you check pro players like Doomsday, Rafis, Wilchq, all of them normally for warm up uses maps what they already FCed with high accuracy but they are on their skill level. Main reason of this by logic is to “wake up” your muscle memory in fastest possible way. How it works: By playing maps what you already FCed and they belong to your actual skill level, you force your muscle memory to reproduce movements, wake up and help you in making same play one more time. For example: as player who normally play 4.8-5* maps, I use 4,6-4,7* already FCed songs to warm up. If you check for example Wilchq, he uses a 5,5-5,8* maps while he normally play maps 5,8-6*+. From observation you will notice that this players normally FC (or shitmiss) this maps and move to another one.

Basically, you want yourself to come back into state where you was while playing maps what you FC and move forward while pushing your skill set into higher more difficult maps. Sounds logical right? That’s how it works.

4. What to NOT do – few words for newbies

You guys tend to spam over and over maps too hard for you and think it will help your progression, it will help you warm up. Your logic works like “if I play this 6* deathstream map, I will be good for easier streams” – nothing more wrong.

Let’s move into theoretical way of your action. As a player unable to properly play, read, aim and follow this crazy 6* deathstream maps, you react on circles appearing on screen and mash buttons. This creates a very dangerous for your overall gameplay bad habit called “button mashing” – reaction based tapping due lack of ability to read, follow and aim a map.

Let’s not forget – osu! Is a rhythm game which require from you a sense of rhythm slowly developed by playing maps on your level and progressing forward by making high accuracy FC on all maps on your way.

If you decide to use this maps – I DO NOT RECOMMEND doing this. To be clear, you are destroying your way of being a godlike player and having fun on your own decision.

5. Few words at the end

Main purpose of this mini-guide is visualize you that warming up is not a process what you think looks like “play 3-4 too hard for me maps and rdy”. Specially in care of your health I placed a paragraph for physical exercises. Rest is created from my pure observations and personal experience.

6. Q & A (will be updated while people ask good and logical questions worth placing here)

So far empty, will update in time.

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Changelog:
- Added basic informations about RSI injury
Deva
tl;dr dont play stupidly hard maps and try not to get RSI/CTS
Aqo
Warmup:

Theories: reading posts on the forum about how to improve

Practice: actually playing the game and improving
Yolshka
I'm wondering what the target audience is, I don't think I ever needed to put extra effort into warming up, albeit i don't play physically intense maps.
My posture is bad though, which sometimes makes my aim hand hurt a bit, and everytime I try to fix it ,I move back, over time, into the position I'm usually in.
Topic Starter
-Makishima S-
I'm wondering what the target audience is, I don't think I ever needed to put extra effort into warming up, albeit i don't play physically intense maps.
At some point everyone hit maps what are intensive. I am doing Dr Levi exercises for long time now and they help a lot in lowering tension and making pain from playing non-comfortable zone bpm less annoying.

I think it's for everyone who feels that it can help, mainly for newbies who missunderstand what is warmup for repetative intensive movements game. Give it a try i could say?
Endaris
Fair thread even though I think you couldve just bumped one of the other few sensible warmup-threads we had in the past.
But I guess this works better to counteract that other thread in a psychological way.
Sayorie
Being the kind of person who heavily invests a lot of time indulging in high-APM video games, this is essentially helpful.

Reminder that it's already too late to realize this by the time you have RSI, and that you have to treat OP seriously because of this.
Topic Starter
-Makishima S-
Thanks for positive feedback guys.

I will make updates here and there from time to time when i find more usefull informations what may help out in this case.

For sure do not expect from me any maps, as i said in disclaimer.

For now guys:


Happy Easter!
Deva
What to do when cold hands?? It takes me at least 2 hours to warm up no matter what i do.
Vuelo Eluko
simply play really really hard shit to start off then tone it down to fcable difficulty... many a top player would agree it works and i actually saw it in action when i gave a certain player a bunch of hard unranked maps that he couldn't even pass and he immediately followed up by setting the highest pp score in the UK.
Topic Starter
-Makishima S-

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

simply play really really hard shit to start off then tone it down to fcable difficulty... many a top player would agree it works and i actually saw it in action when i gave a certain player a bunch of hard unranked maps that he couldn't even pass and he immediately followed up by setting the highest pp score in the UK.
I don't see top players spamming fd4d / everything will freeze / image material / Mazzerin rsi maps for warmup like you are trying to imply.
Vuelo Eluko
thats why good scores come around so rarely despite there being so many good players.
fact is, most top players are l a z y
Topic Starter
-Makishima S-

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

thats why good scores come around so rarely despite there being so many good players.
fact is, most top players are l a z y
They are also most experienced once which i prefer to take as source of observations and draw conclusions.
Vuelo Eluko
Then why even make a thread
Topic Starter
-Makishima S-

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

Then why even make a thread
For people who wants to understand, optimize not only ingame warmup but also learn how to prevent your body from taking dangerous injuries while playing.

It's obvious right?
chainpullz

Aqo wrote:

Warmup:

Theories: reading posts on the forum about how to improve

Practice: actually playing the game and improving
Good guide, 10/10, would read again. OP should take notes.
Topic Starter
-Makishima S-

chainpullz wrote:

Aqo wrote:

Warmup:

Theories: reading posts on the forum about how to improve

Practice: actually playing the game and improving
Good guide, 10/10, would read again. OP should take notes.
Intentionaly ignored since Aqo didn't made effort to get the point of this.
It's not even direct post about "how to improve" kek.
Yuudachi-kun
I never do hand exercises before playing. I'm a freak.
DeathHydra

Khelly wrote:

I never do hand exercises before playing. I'm a freak.
Same tbh
Deva

DeathAdderz wrote:

Khelly wrote:

I never do hand exercises before playing. I'm a freak.
Same tbh
Me neither. Those are for people with hands made of paper.
Topic Starter
-Makishima S-
Not every person have strong hand build.
Endaris
Warmup isn't only useful to prevent RSI but also to get your fingers warm. Whenever I'm intentionally warming up(and I don't always do that) I find myself doing exceptionally well on streammaps compared to sessions without warming up.
Aqo

[Taiga] wrote:

Intentionaly ignored since Aqo didn't made effort to get the point of this.
It's not even direct post about "how to improve" kek.
Sorry but you missed the point of my post. Posting a suggestion for how to warm up on the forum is a complete waste of time. Every person has different warm up methods that work best for them which they have learned over a long time playing this game. Trying to tell somebody to do your version will either suggest them doing something different that is most likely less comfortable and less effective for them, or it's already the thing they're doing now in which case you added nothing new.

The whole discussion could be summed up by simply saying "make sure you warm up before your playing sessions if you feel that you need it". Anything more specific than this is a waste of time going into a post that could've otherwise gone into actually warming up / playing for the target reader.

tl;dr there's not a single person that would find your "guide" useful.
you can't just go and say "in my personal experience... so you should do this too". you need to take other people into account too.
I, for one, had much better results from warming up with deathstreams than anything else back when I played osu. All those youtube stretches you linked are a complete waste of time for me, I get much better results from simply dead lifting and doing pullups a few times before a play session. It warms up the wrists and gives a higher blood flow + heart rate meaning you won't get RSI no matter what you do in the game, allowing to play much more comfortably.

(This is a lot more relevant when playing mania-type games with charts that have 1200+ notes per minute.)
Topic Starter
-Makishima S-
Sorry but you missed the point of my post. Posting a suggestion for how to warm up on the forum is a complete waste of time. Every person has different warm up methods that work best for them which they have learned over a long time playing this game. Trying to tell somebody to do your version will either suggest them doing something different that is most likely less comfortable and less effective for them, or it's already the thing they're doing now in which case you added nothing new.
There is a reason why i took more focus on physical side of warming up your body. You could be supprised how many people get injuries during normal computer use because of bad sitting position, bad hands position and especialy, working constantly without break under this kind of pressures. Considering that osu! activity creates pretty huge pressure for player muscles, tendons and bones, chance to be injured is higher than for normal worker. Now - did you actually know that rules of safety and health at work also regulate worker position at computer and time where you are obligated to take a break and move around?

tl;dr there's not a single person that would find your "guide" useful.
Are you sure about that considering FULL content inside this mini guide? Are you 100% sure that nobody can use it?

All those youtube stretches you linked are a complete waste of time for me, I get much better results from simply dead lifting and doing pullups a few times before a play session. It warms up the wrists and gives a higher blood flow + heart rate meaning you won't get RSI no matter what you do in the game, allowing to play much more comfortably.
Push-ups exercise the pectoral muscles, triceps, and anterior deltoids, with ancillary benefits to the rest of the deltoids, serratus anterior, coracobrachialis and the midsection as a whole so only may help with radial and median nerve of arm and shoulder which in most cases are used way less than wrist (which isn't trained in proper way by doing pushups), nerves and tendons of hand and fingers - especialy radian and median nerves. That's why there is a reason why doctors tell you to do exercises placed in this thread.

RSI potentially damages your muscles, tendons, nerves and joints through repeated micro-trauma. Whenever muscles or tendons are used, tiny tears can occur in the muscle or tendon tissue. The local area becomes inflamed for a short time as the body attempts to repair the damage. Thickening and scar tissue form over the torn muscle or tendon tissue. At this stage, the area will feel painful. Normally, the body would repair the damage and the pain would go away. However, without enough rest, more activity causes further damage and more inflammation, thickening, scar tissue and pain. This cycle gets progressively worse if sufficient rest is not taken. Under the microscope, changes can be seen in the structure of a muscle or tendon damaged by overuse. Collagen bundles that are normally tight and parallel instead look disorganised and discontinuous. A number of other changes have been noted as well, including a decrease in fibre diameter and fibre loosening.

Nerves are also damaged by RSI. Tingling feelings are caused by the compression of nerves. Nerves run through muscles, and if muscle health is poor, so is nerve health. Damaged nerves can heal but the process is extremely slow. Most cases of persisting RSI have their basis in the nerves that run from the neck, down through the shoulders, and into the wrists and hands. These nerves pass by many other structures, most notably the discs and facet joints in the neck. If the discs or muscles become damaged or tight - often due to a poor posture - then the nerves cannot move freely in the arm.

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Thanks for your constructive feedback in this particular post, i take note on it and respect it.
abraker
I had some experience with RSI and learned from it. I no longer try maps I know I cant do for hours. However, I still play maps beyond my skill level to benchmark myself. Benchmarking allows me to know where I am in terms of skill and my rate of improval across difficulties. But I do take it in moderation. Know where you are in terms of skill and don't attempt to overdo it. The mindset you should have when doing maps beyond your skill level is, "one try landed me this and that is enough for now. I'll come back to it some other day and see how much I improved."
Deva
Is it so hard to just dont overdo it? I mean i fucked up both my wrists so many times playing osu, took a mini break after that for it to heal up and no RSI.
Why is taking a break so hard for you people?
Yuudachi-kun

HK_ wrote:

Is it so hard to just dont overdo it? I mean i fucked up both my wrists so many times playing osu, took a mini break after that for it to heal up and no RSI.
Why is taking a break so hard for you people?
I have to ask the same question. Now I'm going to play the deceit for 2 hours straight. OR AT LEAST UNTIL I FEEL I NEED TO STOP BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I NEED TO.
Yuudachi-kun

Khelly wrote:

HK_ wrote:

Is it so hard to just dont overdo it? I mean i fucked up both my wrists so many times playing osu, took a mini break after that for it to heal up and no RSI.
Why is taking a break so hard for you people?
I have to ask the same question. Now I'm going to play the deceit for 2 hours straight. OR AT LEAST UNTIL I FEEL I NEED TO STOP BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I NEED TO.



8 times in a row - 6 on the top 8.
wjd213
Those videos are actually very helpful to improve hand elasticity and just relaxing in general after flexing your hand too much.I already used to do those,as i work with a keyboard nearly 24/7,and not only it probably prevented much pain for me,it actually feels really good.

Since nobody added anything about it i might as well recommend also doing a full upper body stretching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VULt--bcWd0 in case you feel pain in your biceps/back shoulder plates area,which are also very common areas for strain depending on how you place your forearms in your desk(mine doesn't have much space,so i keep my keyboard really close to me and that can overload your biceps,specially if you don't workout much..)
Halfslashed
Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on playing low-bpm stream maps to make sure your fingers are actually working together before jumping into at-level stream speeds?
Deva

Halfslashed wrote:

Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on playing low-bpm stream maps to make sure your fingers are actually working together before jumping into at-level stream speeds?
Some low bpm streams are A LOT harder than most of higher bpm streams so i dont think so.
Endaris
For warming up slow/short streams at a highly frequent rate are perfect for me.

Maybe because I can acc them decently from cold hands already. Hello HK
I Give Up
Should stretch your arms regardless of whether or not you're going to play osu.
abraker
For some reason I have an urge to see someone try high BPM steaming while in the freezing cold outside. Have hands put into snow or ice beforehand.

I think it's that time again. I need to wait a bit till my mind is back to normal.
Yuudachi-kun

abraker wrote:

For some reason I have an urge to see someone try high BPM steaming while in the freezing cold outside. Have hands put into snow or ice beforehand.

I think it's that time again. I need to wait a bit till my mind is back to normal.
I would do this if it got actually cold here.
Deva

abraker wrote:

For some reason I have an urge to see someone try high BPM steaming while in the freezing cold outside. Have hands put into snow or ice beforehand.

I think it's that time again. I need to wait a bit till my mind is back to normal.
I did that. Its impossible to tap properly let alone stream or even stream high bpm.

If -10C is considered freezing enough of course.
Yolshka

HK_ wrote:

If -10C is considered freezing enough of course.
-10C in the room??

I can't stream because if this in +15C
Deva
Well it was this winter when it was snowing and I opened the window and just thought why the hell not.
Yuudachi-kun
In december it was 30 degrees one day.

The car was hot.
Endaris
Well, I can just tell my experiences from playing guitar outside at night in March at around ~4°C.
If you have warm fingers from before it's okay at first but it becomes worse very quickly...
AURELIJUS
Well, according to the symptoms of r so. I have it.


My hand usually starts to ache after 1 hour of playing osu, if I go further than that my hand starts to feel weak and sometimes my hand freezes and slips the pen in middle of the game play.

Well, shit.
chainpullz

TheRogerMan wrote:

Well, according to the symptoms of r so. I have it.


My hand usually starts to ache after 1 hour of playing osu, if I go further than that my hand starts to feel weak and sometimes my hand freezes and slips the pen in middle of the game play.

Well, shit.
If you actually had rsi it wouldn't even take 1 minute for your hand to ache.
Endie-

HK_ wrote:

abraker wrote:

For some reason I have an urge to see someone try high BPM steaming while in the freezing cold outside. Have hands put into snow or ice beforehand.

I think it's that time again. I need to wait a bit till my mind is back to normal.
I did that. Its impossible to tap properly let alone stream or even stream high bpm.

If -10C is considered freezing enough of course.
Professional norwegian here:
Playing with cold fingers is impossible, no doubt. Your fingers are unresponsive and you feel useless while playing.

Oh, and for warming up I usually do what Khelly does. I spam that shit for like 20 minutes, and stretch my fingers for about 10. Warming up is different from person to person
Yuudachi-kun
All I said was that I play osu
AURELIJUS

chainpullz wrote:

TheRogerMan wrote:

Well, according to the symptoms of r so. I have it.


My hand usually starts to ache after 1 hour of playing osu, if I go further than that my hand starts to feel weak and sometimes my hand freezes and slips the pen in middle of the game play.

Well, shit.
If you actually had rsi it wouldn't even take 1 minute for your hand to ache.

Thank [Insert someone], you saved me.
Endie-

Khelly wrote:

All I said was that I play osu
Oh, I was thinking about the fleshgod apocalypse map
Yuudachi-kun

Endie- wrote:

Khelly wrote:

All I said was that I play osu
Oh, I was thinking about the fleshgod apocalypse map
I'd warm up on something like Tout Petit Monieau Extra -> That 222 bpm Tenkuu map -> Everything will freeze freezing -> thank you for playing DT -> Fleshgod apocalypse

in that order.
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