Manoeuvres - Mad World (Station Earth Remix) · forum

Mystyk

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Mystyk 2016-08-02T11:49:57+00:00

Congrats! This is really nice! The jumps didn't feel too big at all, and I enjoyed playing this, nice song as well!

Sotarks

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Sotarks 2016-08-02T11:51:49+00:00

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-NanoRIPE-

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-NanoRIPE- 2016-08-02T12:55:36+00:00

Grats ~

_orange

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_orange 2016-08-02T15:40:12+00:00

its qualified!!

allein

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allein 2016-08-02T18:23:34+00:00

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riffy

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riffy 2016-08-02T19:21:49+00:00

Hello there, I have a few things I'd love to mention as I believe this would improve the map.

[General]

Paired colours (1-2),(3-4),(5-6) are way too similar this is confusing and should be avoided. Try adding red colours or using dimmed colours for the slower part and brighter ones for a faster one? this would work better.
Just to name a few examples, 00:50:774 (5,6,1) - this on Apple's Insane.
01:19:738 (6,1,2,3) - Normal
Normal-hitfinish.wav is 5 seconds long. Isn't that a bit way too long? I would recommend to make it shorter, so that hitsounds wouldn't overlap.
For example, the problem happens 01:39:393 (1) - here on Normal and the mix of hitsounds creates a noisy feel, that does not belong to the original song.
Why not use Slider Tick Rate 2 for Hard, Insane and Divine? The difficulties use intense 1/2 rhythm and the song perfectly supports Tick Rate as it provides consistent 1/2 background beat.

[Easy]

01:48:014 (2) - 01:12:152 (2,2) - the sudden and agressive curves do not go well with the nature of the difficulty's rhythm. Please, try to avoid them by softening the curves? Example
Note: this will also help you to get rid of a sudden and agressive angle, making things feel slightly more enjoyable to the player.

[HOS's Hard]

00:57:324 (7,8) - is there any reason why the sliders that are so similar is sound and rhythm are shaped completely differently? It's a very minor thing, but I'd prefer to have them curved in the same way.

[apple's Insane]

00:52:498 (1) - pretty sure that the slider here ignores the double on 00:52:498 - 00:52:582. It feels pretty forced and makes the following doubles and the transition to them feel unnatural.

Hope this helps!

Myxo

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Myxo 2016-08-02T19:26:26+00:00

Hey! Taking this down as Bakari mentioned some pretty serious issues that need to be considered.

Personally I strongly recommend you to fix the combo color issue and the aggressive curves in Easy.

This song and mapset are pretty nice, btw :3 Good luck!

Mint

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Joined February 2013

Mint 2016-08-02T19:43:17+00:00

Bakari wrote:
Hello there, I have a few things I'd love to mention as I believe this would improve the map.

[General]
Paired colours (1-2),(3-4),(5-6) are way too similar this is confusing and should be avoided. Try adding red colours or using dimmed colours for the slower part and brighter ones for a faster one? this would work better.
Just to name a few examples, 00:50:774 (5,6,1) - this on Apple's Insane. Regarding this issue, Bearizm did the combo colours on my difficulty, so I'll leave this to him instead.
01:19:738 (6,1,2,3) - Normal
Normal-hitfinish.wav is 5 seconds long. Isn't that a bit way too long? I would recommend to make it shorter, so that hitsounds wouldn't overlap.
For example, the problem happens 01:39:393 (1) - here on Normal and the mix of hitsounds creates a noisy feel, that does not belong to the original song.
Why not use Slider Tick Rate 2 for Hard, Insane and Divine? The difficulties use intense 1/2 rhythm and the song perfectly supports Tick Rate as it provides consistent 1/2 background beat. I'm fine with either STR1 or 2. Though, you are right - STR2 seems to fit the song better. I'll leave this decision up to Bearizm as well, since I think it's best to have this consistent in all difficulties, regardless my Insane being a guest difficulty.
[apple's Insane]
00:52:498 (1) - pretty sure that the slider here ignores the double on 00:52:498 - 00:52:582. It feels pretty forced and makes the following doubles and the transition to them feel unnatural. This issue has been brought up previously by Asonate. I'm aware that the first double has been skipped and it was done completely intentional. Rather than suddenly introducing doublets, I preferred to have a 3/4 slider + note at the end. This way, the player can immediately pick up the doublet-rhythm and will have no problem switching mindset (immediately being prepared without any confusion possible) and play the rest of the doublets. The slider is so much easier to pick-up and regular 3/4 patterns aren't hard, or uncommon in any type of beatmap these days, at all. Therefore having that to me is much smoother. However, if I were to map the first doublet already, the would be absolutely no time for the player to adjust to the new rhythm. I believe what I have currently is much smoother from a players' perspective, and if I can, I would like to keep it that way. For whether the slider fits here; there's a clear violin sound, and I have skipped <some> sounds to follow the violin before. Also, I think this is also more forgiving after some single-tapping at 00:51:636 (2,3,4,5,6) - .
Hope this helps!

Thanks for the check, but I would like to keep the pattern. I hope I provided a sufficient explanation behind the pattern :3
@Bearizm: Feel free to change the colors for me - also, if you're going to change to Slider Tick Rate 2, please change mine as well to be consistent with your difficulties. If you decide to keep STR1, leave mine as-is.

Secretpipe

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Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2016-08-02T20:24:30+00:00

holy fuck u mapped this? blblblblblblblblblbl

HootOwlStar

750 posts

Joined May 2014

HootOwlStar 2016-08-03T09:46:37+00:00

it might be a mad world indeed and i'm mad too t b h so it's kind of #relatable yee

edit: @Akali it's fine as it is though

edit2: made (7) flat and tick rate to 2, but if tickrate of other diffs remain as 1 then should change it back t o 1

ayy

osu file format v14

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Secretpipe

3,316 posts

Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2016-08-03T11:37:51+00:00

when are we going to do some dnb together fk

this is one of my fav song actually

Bearizm

1,213 posts

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Bearizm 2016-08-04T03:00:22+00:00

I'll check on this soon, i'll make a new post once everything's sorted out.

Thanks Bakari! X)

Milan-

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Joined August 2011

Milan- 2016-09-01T03:33:05+00:00

;(

Secretpipe

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Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2016-09-02T17:02:57+00:00

Milan- wrote:
;(

allein

Beatmap Nominator

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allein 2016-09-09T16:14:30+00:00

Secretpipe wrote:
Milan- wrote:
;(

Bearizm

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Joined October 2013

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Bearizm 2016-09-11T12:36:18+00:00

Bakari wrote:
Hello there, I have a few things I'd love to mention as I believe this would improve the map.

[General]
Paired colours (1-2),(3-4),(5-6) are way too similar this is confusing and should be avoided. Try adding red colours or using dimmed colours for the slower part and brighter ones for a faster one? this would work better. I'll make them easier to differentiate. I'm kinda bad with colors.
Just to name a few examples, 00:50:774 (5,6,1) - this on Apple's Insane.
01:19:738 (6,1,2,3) - Normal
Normal-hitfinish.wav is 5 seconds long. Isn't that a bit way too long? I would recommend to make it shorter, so that hitsounds wouldn't overlap.
For example, the problem happens 01:39:393 (1) - here on Normal and the mix of hitsounds creates a noisy feel, that does not belong to the original song. I think it fits the song really well, and it doesn't feel noisy or anything. I thought it kinda blends in with it. It just feels smooth imo so i'm going to keep the hitsound..
Why not use Slider Tick Rate 2 for Hard, Insane and Divine? The difficulties use intense 1/2 rhythm and the song perfectly supports Tick Rate as it provides consistent 1/2 background beat. ok all difficulties set to 2 except easy.
[Easy]
01:48:014 (2) - 01:12:152 (2,2) - the sudden and agressive curves do not go well with the nature of the difficulty's rhythm. Please, try to avoid them by softening the curves? Example all sharp curves changed.
Note: this will also help you to get rid of a sudden and agressive angle, making things feel slightly more enjoyable to the player.
[HOS's Hard]
00:57:324 (7,8) - is there any reason why the sliders that are so similar is sound and rhythm are shaped completely differently? It's a very minor thing, but I'd prefer to have them curved in the same way. his answer (he said ok)
Hope this helps! it did hehe xd sorry it took so long

thanks Bakari, Desp. Also, thanks for the sad faces emote guys hehe xd

Last edited by Bearizm 2016-09-12T06:49:39+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

allein

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allein 2016-09-11T16:15:34+00:00

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pishifat

osu! Paragon

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pishifat 2016-09-11T23:59:47+00:00

SPOILER

call me back !!

Bearizm

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Bearizm 2016-09-12T04:46:59+00:00

dunzo

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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pishifat 2016-09-12T09:03:49+00:00

zor

Bearizm

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Bearizm 2016-09-12T09:38:54+00:00

Hey, I was doing just fine before I met you
I drink too much and that's an issue
But I'm OK

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2016-09-12T20:53:29+00:00

apple

01:38:689 (1,4) - not sure if you intended this or what but... is that a non-stacked object or it is a variation of an overlap from the previous patterns?

you

01:05:930 (4) - could you not stack it with 01:05:413 (2) - so it's consistent along with 01:10:930 (2,4) - ? looks sick without the stack, y'know
01:20:241 (2,3) - this is some sick anti-jump compared to (1,2) and (3,4). in case you wanna keep it, you could try nc'ing the current (4) so it's some cool nc'ing b)
01:36:965 (2,3,4,5) - rhythm is quite vague here, not because of your 1/2 placement of course, but in the bgm. i'd suggest you some sort of slider to follow the vocals or smth similar. to be hoenst, the current pattern is just too poor
01:38:689 (1,2,1,2) - do you remember the doubles at the very beginning of the map? imo, players (yehaaa, this happened to me while playing the map!!!) can misread these as 1/4s, so making them different from the ones on the beginning would be something cool!

call me back !!

Mint

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Joined February 2013

Mint 2016-09-12T21:07:30+00:00

Yes, they were intentional ^^'

Thanks for modding!

Bearizm

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Bearizm 2016-09-13T03:14:38+00:00

A Wild Yuii Appears!

Yuii- wrote:
you

01:05:930 (4) - could you not stack it with 01:05:413 (2) - so it's consistent along with 01:10:930 (2,4) - ? looks sick without the stack, y'know yes
01:20:241 (2,3) - this is some sick anti-jump compared to (1,2) and (3,4). in case you wanna keep it, you could try nc'ing the current (4) so it's some cool nc'ing b) it doesn't call for it enough imo. it's not a 123 pattern type of deal even if it might seem like it.
01:36:965 (2,3,4,5) - rhythm is quite vague here, not because of your 1/2 placement of course, but in the bgm. i'd suggest you some sort of slider to follow the vocals or smth similar. to be hoenst, the current pattern is just too poor sure
01:38:689 (1,2,1,2) - do you remember the doubles at the very beginning of the map? imo, players (yehaaa, this happened to me while playing the map!!!) can misread these as 1/4s, so making them different from the ones on the beginning would be something cool! ehh i'll just stack em.

call me back !!

thank <3