Am I Trying To Advance Too Quickly?

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N0thingSpecial
play 4*>
J_8579
Passing 5-6* doesn't mean much if you're getting 75-80%. Work on getting better acc at 3.5-3.6* first.
Endaris
Play for A and S, not for B.
That will logically lead you to easier maps. It takes months until you can show a good performance on 5* maps therefore it doesn't make any sense to already push for them.
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Rosten
Alright.

On that note, do any of you know any good 3-4 star maps with a sizeable number of stacks and streams? Those tend to be my biggest accuracy killer on just about any star map. (Damn you Negastrife, and your 95%-To-Fail deathstreams)
Endaris
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Rosten

Endaris wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/215566
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/114332
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/789208
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/185904
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/88309
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/40401
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/178489

Dont be desperate if it looks bad at first, streaming is hard to get into.
Thanks ^_^

And it's not so much *streaming* that I have a huge problem with, I can pass (most) streams perfectly fine (or theres no way in hell I could've ever passed a single 5 star map, it's like every single one of them has 10+ medium-length streams), I've just never been able to do them with good precision. Getting good acc on them has always been a crapshoot.
Endaris
Well. More experienced players like me don't call it "streaming" if you just mash your keyboard at roughly the correct speed. I call that "mashing" instead.
Decent accuracy is an integral part of being able to stream. Doesn't have to be SS but should clearly head towards SS. Or more abstract: A low UR during streams.
UR is short for Unstable Rate and tells you how far your hits were from each in other in relation to the timing.
Meaning that on a fair stream all the hits are very close to each other on the hit error bar(even if they were in the 50 area it would count as streaming).
CptBlackBird

Endaris wrote:

Well. More experienced players like me don't call it "streaming" if you just mash your keyboard at roughly the correct speed. I call that "mashing" instead.
Decent accuracy is an integral part of being able to stream. Doesn't have to be SS but should clearly head towards SS. Or more abstract: A low UR during streams.
UR is short for Unstable Rate and tells you how far your hits were from each in other in relation to the timing.
Meaning that on a fair stream all the hits are very close to each other on the hit error bar(even if they were in the 50 area it would count as streaming).
my sides holy shit
"more experienced players like me"
B1rd

CptBlackBird wrote:

my sides holy shit
"more experienced players like me"
Do you realise the 'more expierience' means relative to the OP? Do you realise that PP does not equal experience?
Sayorie
>5.00*-6.00*
Just because you can clear a few doesn't mean that it is within your level already

And yes, you are trying to advance too quickly, skipping a lot of basics which you can learn over the entirety of maps near your level.
Xyrus

Rosten wrote:

On that note, do any of you know any good 3-4 star maps with a sizeable number of stacks and streams? Those tend to be my biggest accuracy killer on just about any star map. (Damn you Negastrife, and your 95%-To-Fail deathstreams)
I'm currently trying to 99% FC these, you might find them useful:-

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/498711&m=0
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/83506&m=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/179507&m=1
Endaris

CptBlackBird wrote:

Endaris wrote:

Well. More experienced players like me don't call it "streaming" if you just mash your keyboard at roughly the correct speed. I call that "mashing" instead.
Decent accuracy is an integral part of being able to stream. Doesn't have to be SS but should clearly head towards SS. Or more abstract: A low UR during streams.
UR is short for Unstable Rate and tells you how far your hits were from each in other in relation to the timing.
Meaning that on a fair stream all the hits are very close to each other on the hit error bar(even if they were in the 50 area it would count as streaming).
my sides holy shit
"more experienced players like me"
Get on mah level bruh xddd Level 100 > Level 99 kappa
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In sports training some athletes do 25 mins of normal training then 5 mins of really intense training at the end
Topic Starter
Rosten
Thanks for all the suggestions, guys ^_^

I'll get back to you once I've S ranked all those maps.

Edit: RIP my accuracy
AshbeII

CptBlackBird wrote:

Endaris wrote:

Well. More experienced players like me don't call it "streaming" if you just mash your keyboard at roughly the correct speed. I call that "mashing" instead.
Decent accuracy is an integral part of being able to stream. Doesn't have to be SS but should clearly head towards SS. Or more abstract: A low UR during streams.
UR is short for Unstable Rate and tells you how far your hits were from each in other in relation to the timing.
Meaning that on a fair stream all the hits are very close to each other on the hit error bar(even if they were in the 50 area it would count as streaming).
my sides holy shit
"more experienced players like me"
i can tickle ur sides if u want
Insyni

B1rd wrote:

CptBlackBird wrote:

my sides holy shit
"more experienced players like me"
Do you realise the 'more expierience' means relative to the OP? Do you realise that PP does not equal experience?
I second this.

Also, very nice B1rd. I remember when you first started and complained about not progressing, now your rank is amazing. Was your old avi from hellsing?

Also, yes you are trying to advance to quickly. Endaris has very good logic, but may strive a bit too much for accuracy.
Topic Starter
Rosten
I certainly appreciate all the map suggestions, just playing through them and trying to B and A them has significantly improved my streaming ability to the point where I can get over 90% on songs that I'd never thought I could even come close to getting an 85% on by anything barring sheer luck.

That being said, at what point should I try and progress up star ranks? Is it ever okay to just be fine with having a bad acc (85-90%) when moving up to higher star ranks while you get accustomed to the more fast-paced and complex patterns, or should it always just be a smooth curve from difficulty to difficulty?
Endaris
This is up to you. How do you want to play this game? What are you satisfied with?
Personally I would recommend 90-95% as the minimum as that is always a solid B, often A-rank.
Below 90% there is always the implication that you're mashing the keyboard on a regular basis as sliders give you free accuracy.

Aside from that I will just cite thelewa here:
If you have really bad accuracy then just try to really look at the approach circles and really try to get acc that is above 97%, increase this minimum accuracy once you get better at it, capping out at 99%. Going for SS is useless for your general accuracy if you use a billion tries for it, so it's not worth the effort. Eventually something will click into place and accuracy will get easier.
That's what I used to use as an orientation and I think 97% is fair and achieveable with a reasonable amount of effort.
Insyni
Honestly speaking, I used to always play 4-5 star songs and aim for 86-93% accuracy. Now I'm going back and realizing how hard 3.3-3.5 star songs are if you really focus on getting 98-99%.

I may not be gaining pp right now do to this, but I'm learning a lot more.
sayonara_sekai
i played 120-130bpm 3.5-4 star maps for 6 hours straight to improve my finger control and rhythm sense and i improved more than the last 3 weeks playing random 4.5-5* AR9 shit combined.
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