Halozy - Masshiro na Yuki · forum

Doj

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Doj 2016-06-18T02:27:32+00:00

WISPG_G wrote:
Hi \o, mod is here ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

Sorry I am late, I was very busy in university Don't worry about it.

General

Your dif and Vicky's Snow have different kiai times suggest you make same.

Easy

00:54:637 (1) - this spinner shoud starts here 00:54:460 - ? oh yea, you're right
01:28:519 (3) - this slider contradicts prev parts, what about make here 2 1/1 sliders too? good point
01:08:754 (1,2) - make 1 slider please, like in next parts 01:14:401 (1) - etc lol yea I was wondering if someone would notice
01:31:342 (1,2,3) - why 1st two sliders follow instruments, but the 2nd vocal? I dont agree with rhythm in this kiai, you suddenly jump from instumental to vocal, I think you should make here something different This part actually isn't meant to follow the vocal. The (3) slider follows the same instrument that the 4 notes at the beginning of the song follow. The rhythm in this kiai is actually 00:12:284 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm except i split the sliders up with a single at the end lol.

Normal

why different SV in begin x0.75 and x0.85 in normal dif like in easy must be same SV everywhere, I dont see differences here, but I dont know) fixed
00:03:813 - strong beat, I suggest you add here circle fixed
00:32:048 (1,2) - drum hitsounds, may be there should be auto? that was a mistake, fixed
00:54:637 (1) - this spinner shoud starts here 00:54:460 - ? fixed
01:24:284 (4,5) - may be slider 4 should be reverse with hit-clap on the end? This is a good idea, but I wanna keep the rhythm consistent here I dont feel like adjusting everything XD
01:47:754 (1,2) - idk both slider follow different goals (vocal and instrumental) they incommensurable here imo ehhhh I it fits so I'll keep it

Hard

00:20:754 (1,2,3,4) - I hear this sliders like 1 Srry, I'm not sure what you mean here.
00:34:519 (9,1) - wow suddenly this big spacing fixed
00:37:695 (1,1) - stack? fixed
00:46:695 (2) - I hear this slider like 1/2 + circle, 00:48:107 (5) - here too, and etc Hmm I do agree it does fit, but I'll keep what I have for now.
00:53:225 (4,5) - bad blanket X_X i tried to fix it X_X
01:09:813 (4,8) - why this and other same circles have strong beat also with hit-clap and they hidden? I moved them all from beneath the sliders, fixed
01:14:754 (2,5) - dont like this mirror overlap, 01:15:813 (5,8) - here too :V fixed
01:24:813 (8,9,1) - about this, unbalanced space between sliders looks weird and messy imo, may be you should make other pattren? I moved them around a bit to fix it.
01:37:872 (3,3) - stack? fixed
01:40:872 (5,2) - ^ fixed
eh, I dont like to say this, but in this dif kiai specifically sometimes made not carefully, suggest you do something here please I'll look over it more

Lunatic

00:09:989 (2,3) - this and 00:10:695 (3,4) - this spacing looks unbalanced fixed
00:34:872 (1,2,3) - i think higher spacing must be between 2 3 not between 1 2 fixed
00:38:225 (4) - this is sounds like 1/4 reverse slider Good idea, but I'll keep it as is.
00:52:519 (5,6) - higher spacing? like in prev parts This is the same spacing as the previous notes.
00:56:225 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - notes with Normal samplesets must be 1 2 3 5 7 9, isnt it? I tried what you suggested, but I like what I have.
01:11:931 (2,3,4,5,6) - hmm, this pattern looks weird, may you should place 3 in center of 2 4 5 triangle? btw between 3 4 imo should be higher spacing great idea !!1
01:29:931 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern looks better imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5388352 another ljasndflkjsndgjlkds great idea !!!1
01:36:460 (5) - NC? This is fine as is.
01:47:048 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - what? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5388372 I'll fix it up
01:52:342 (8) - end of slider strong beat, should be clickable imo fixed
01:52:695 (9,10,11) - unbalanced spacing fixed

Thats it from me, good luck o/ Thanks for the mod!!!!!!

P.S. 99 \:D/

hyouri

390 posts

Joined June 2012

hyouri 2016-06-18T19:50:59+00:00

quick 1 min modding

[General]

There's no storyboard, so check all diffs with Widescreen support and epilepsy warning and remove them.
Set all diffs with overlapping timing points to same volume

[Lunatic]

00:45:460 (2) - weird stream here, could be made into something like:

[Vicky's Snow]

01:52:607 (1) - spinner is waaay too short. unrankable
00:30:637 (1) - should be whistle on sliderhead
00:31:166 (4) - same as above
00:36:107 (3) - whistle on this sliderend
00:41:931 (2) - whistle on this sliderhead
NC should be 00:41:931 (2) - here as opposed to 00:41:754 (1) -
00:43:342 (1) - whistle on sliderhead
00:47:578 (1) - finish on sliderhead
00:51:813 (1) - same as above
00:53:225 (1) - same as above

check these for all similar-sounding parts

Doj

232 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Doj 2016-06-18T20:13:27+00:00

Alveryn wrote:
quick 1 min modding

[General]
There's no storyboard, so check all diffs with Widescreen support and epilepsy warning and remove them. ok
Set all diffs with overlapping timing points to same volume !!
[Lunatic]
00:45:460 (2) - weird stream here, could be made into something like: mmmmm delish

thank

Miriko

188 posts

Joined July 2014

Miriko 2016-06-19T21:03:44+00:00

WISPG_G wrote:
Vicky's Snow~

00:25:695 (5,6) - may be end lisder on white tick? because with this spacing 1/8 jump looks pretty hard, same here 00:31:519 (6,1) - and other parts But it's an extra difficulty, it's meant to be hard. :s
01:08:225 - what about end slide here and add circle on white tick? I think I'm keeping the spinner.
01:36:637 (5,1) - may be make here jump? Why? >< It looks fine the way it is and I have no idea what jump you want it to be. :s
01:42:460 (1) - may be place end of slider between 01:42:107 (4,5) - this two circles? Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean here. ><
Other things looks nice, good job o.o Thank you!

Alveryn wrote:
[Vicky's Snow]
01:52:607 (1) - spinner is waaay too short. unrankable Auto test resulted that it's able to get 1000 points from it which means it met the ranking criteria.
00:30:637 (1) - should be whistle on sliderhead Okay~
00:31:166 (4) - same as above Hai hai~
00:36:107 (3) - whistle on this sliderend Done~
00:41:931 (2) - whistle on this sliderhead Okay desu~
NC should be 00:41:931 (2) - here as opposed to 00:41:754 (1) - Fixed~
00:43:342 (1) - whistle on sliderhead Okay~
00:47:578 (1) - finish on sliderhead Added a whistle instead~
00:51:813 (1) - same as above Okay~
00:53:225 (1) - same as above Added a whistle instead~

check these for all similar-sounding parts Yessu! *Salutes*

Thank you for the mods~!
~Added a few of my own edits to the map. x3 Including Slider colors~ And fixed 00:17:578 (1,2) - part to make it look better~

Rawr~!

osu file format v14

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Title:Masshiro na Yuki
TitleUnicode:まっしろな雪
Artist:Halozy
ArtistUnicode:Halozy
Creator:Doj
Version:Vicky's Snow~
Source:東方Project
Tags:とらのあな toranoana 水瀬ましろ amorevole sumijun すみじゅん touhou kaeidzuka Phantasmagoria of Flower View 東方幻奏響  UROBOROS 弐 fAIRYtAILoVERdRIVE Gensoukyou bayside beat comiket87 comiket89 higan retour kikou riverside view komachi onozuka drum and bass victorica
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Erza

84 posts

Joined January 2015

Erza 2016-06-25T21:21:32+00:00

HUHU NICE

Vicky's Snow

01:45:813 (2) - please make this more symmetrical uhuh tilt it more top right

Sry for lazy modding x-x but it looks good

MrJoghurt

71 posts

Joined December 2015

MrJoghurt 2016-06-25T23:29:00+00:00

Mod from #modreqs

Easy:
01:41:225 (3) - I think this slider breaks the typical flow of the map while it would flow good if used more frequently
when I was a newbie I often clicked on the wrong end of a slider.

Normal:
00:19:342 (3) - NC Combo consitency
01:19:695 (6) - I would not stack this note there you do nowhere else in the map so it could be confusing
01:36:460 (6) - NC After a long pause the vocals start with a different tune
01:42:107 (9) - same
01:53:931 (5) - NC there maybe The song continues and you set an accent at the first note of that so maybe NC

Hard:
01:19:519 (3) - Breaks the flow of 01:18:989 (6,1,2) -
I would swap 01:19:166 (1) - with 01:19:519 (3) - and 01:19:695 (4) - with 01:19:872 (5) -
OR
Move the star pattern to 01:18:989 (6) - make 01:18:989 (6) - NC and fix 01:20:048 (1) - this way the player has more time to read and the flow gets better
01:29:931 (1) - IF you do NC here 01:19:166 (1) - the NC needs to be moved to 01:30:107 (2) -
01:53:401 (6) - NC After a long pause the vocals start with a different tune
01:53:931 (2) - like the ending in Normal diff

Lunatic:
00:23:225 (1) - no NC here if you want NC together with Vocals make 00:23:048 (5) - NC instead
00:36:989 (1,1) - I think those belong to one sound so no need for NC 00:37:342 (1) - here
00:39:989 (4,1) - same
00:46:166 (1) - bad flow maby Ctrl. + G
00:56:225 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - The part is louder but i think the hitsounds there are a bit too loud
01:03:460 (1) - NC earlyer The Vocals are holding the iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiih no rythm changes at all. better move it to the beginning of the rythm and iiiih 01:03:107 (5) -
01:04:519 (4) - New combo here because changes in the music and vocal tune and vocal rythm (iiiiiiiiih

)
01:20:578 (5) - a bit akward feel because these two 01:20:578 (5) - and 01:16:342 (7) - change the direction in which the cursor is moving
01:21:989 (5) - Its ok here because this one moves at least ~90 degrees
If NC'ing follows vocals:
01:47:754 (5) - NC here instead of 01:48:284 (1) - at 01:47:754 (5) - a new phrase begins
01:48:989 (5) - NC here too because upbeat to new phrase and new phrase
01:50:578 (2) - NC new phrase move NC to here from 01:50:225 (1) -
If NC'ing follows rythm:
01:49:695 (8) - if there 01:48:284 (1) - is a NC at 01:49:695 (8) - has to be one too
01:53:931 (4) - like ending in Normal & Hard

Vicky's Snow:
00:26:048 (6) - NC here or no NC here 00:31:695 (1) -
00:31:695 (1) - NC here because of consistency (01:22:519 (1) - )
01:22:519 (1) - same
either here 01:31:166 (1) - no NC or here 01:32:578 (3) - NC
either here 01:31:695 (2) - NC or here 01:33:107 (1) - no NC
01:49:519 (3) - NC here because of consistency

Hope I was helpful

good luck with your mapset I like it

Miriko

188 posts

Joined July 2014

Miriko 2016-06-26T00:36:52+00:00

Erza wrote:
HUHU NICE

Vicky's Snow
01:45:813 (2) - please make this more symmetrical uhuh tilt it more top right Done~
Sry for lazy modding x-x but it looks good Thank you~ >////<

st_stefan wrote:
Vicky's Snow:
00:26:048 (6) - NC here or no NC here 00:31:695 (1) - Done~
00:31:695 (1) - NC here because of consistency (01:22:519 (1) - )
01:22:519 (1) - same
either here 01:31:166 (1) - no NC or here 01:32:578 (3) - NC Done~
either here 01:31:695 (2) - NC or here 01:33:107 (1) - no NC
01:49:519 (3) - NC here because of consistency

I was slightly confused by what you meant but I figured most of the NC errors~ Ty~

Thank you for the mods~

Kira~ra~ra Kira~ra~

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Doj

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Doj 2016-06-26T18:08:04+00:00

st_stefan wrote:
Mod from #modreqs
Easy:
01:41:225 (3) - I think this slider breaks the typical flow of the map while it would flow good if used more frequently
when I was a newbie I often clicked on the wrong end of a slider.I think it fits perfectly. I use it at the beginning of this kiai to lead into the chorus, and then here I use to transition into the repeat of the chorus.

Normal:
00:19:342 (3) - NC Combo consitency fixed
01:19:695 (6) - I would not stack this note there you do nowhere else in the map so it could be confusing fixed
01:36:460 (6) - NC After a long pause the vocals start with a different tune fixed
01:42:107 (9) - same fixed
01:53:931 (5) - NC there maybe The song continues and you set an accent at the first note of that so maybe NC fixed

Hard:
01:19:519 (3) - Breaks the flow of 01:18:989 (6,1,2) - It's a star pattern ?
I would swap 01:19:166 (1) - with 01:19:519 (3) - and 01:19:695 (4) - with 01:19:872 (5) -
OR
Move the star pattern to 01:18:989 (6) - make 01:18:989 (6) - NC and fix 01:20:048 (1) - this way the player has more time to read and the flow gets better fixed
01:29:931 (1) - IF you do NC here 01:19:166 (1) - the NC needs to be moved to 01:30:107 (2) - Why would I need to move it? The place I have it now is on a really strong beat, and it's on a large white tick.
01:53:401 (6) - NC After a long pause the vocals start with a different tune fixed
01:53:931 (2) - like the ending in Normal diff fixed

Lunatic:
00:23:225 (1) - no NC here if you want NC together with Vocals make 00:23:048 (5) - NC instead fixed
00:36:989 (1,1) - I think those belong to one sound so no need for NC 00:37:342 (1) - here fixed
00:39:989 (4,1) - same I'll keep this as is to make it more readable.
00:46:166 (1) - bad flow maby Ctrl. + G fixed
00:56:225 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - The part is louder but i think the hitsounds there are a bit too loud fixed
01:03:460 (1) - NC earlyer The Vocals are holding the iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiih no rythm changes at all. better move it to the beginning of the rythm and iiiih 01:03:107 (5) - I ended up changing this part completely
01:04:519 (4) - New combo here because changes in the music and vocal tune and vocal rythm (iiiiiiiiih ) fixed
01:20:578 (5) - a bit akward feel because these two 01:20:578 (5) - and 01:16:342 (7) - change the direction in which the cursor is moving I made them like that on purpose. The first part is like you said with changing directions after the stream, and it leads into the more smooth transitions.
01:21:989 (5) - Its ok here because this one moves at least ~90 degrees
If NC'ing follows vocals: I'm NC'ing to the beat not vocals.
01:47:754 (5) - NC here instead of 01:48:284 (1) - at 01:47:754 (5) - a new phrase begins ^
01:48:989 (5) - NC here too because upbeat to new phrase and new phrase ^
01:50:578 (2) - NC new phrase move NC to here from 01:50:225 (1) - ^
If NC'ing follows rythm:
01:49:695 (8) - if there 01:48:284 (1) - is a NC at 01:49:695 (8) - has to be one too fixed
01:53:931 (4) - like ending in Normal & Hard fixed

Hope I was helpful
good luck with your mapset I like it Thanks for the mod!!

Updated.

hyouri

390 posts

Joined June 2012

hyouri 2016-07-01T22:40:26+00:00

yuki

Doj

232 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Doj 2016-07-01T23:46:48+00:00

Ayumiita

132 posts

Joined November 2015

Ayumiita 2016-07-02T14:44:33+00:00

Hey the NM is here.
keep in mind that this is mainly personal preference just marked lines are necessary.

Vicky's Snow~:

00:16:695 (1) - There is missing one beat at the 2/4 tick aka red.

00:46:166 (1) - I would start the slider closer to the 7

Really couldnt find more after searching for like 2h.
Just one thing the map is rly rly hard for his difficulty so yeah, it should give a shit ton of pp xD.

Miriko

188 posts

Joined July 2014

Miriko 2016-07-04T23:49:33+00:00

Lucyyyyyyy wrote:
Hey the NM is here.
keep in mind that this is mainly personal preference just marked lines are necessary.

Vicky's Snow~:

00:16:695 (1) - There is missing one beat at the 2/4 tick aka red. Um... There's already is a not on it. o.o

00:46:166 (1) - I would start the slider closer to the 7 That would ruin the stream blanket on it, I'll be keeping it the way it is.

Really couldnt find more after searching for like 2h. ...I think that means I'm mapping okay? Maybe? I don't know. xD

Thank you for the mod~ ^^

Naxess

Nomination Assessment Team

390 posts

Joined March 2016

Naxess 2016-07-06T22:59:36+00:00

NM From Queue

rip background

[

Lunatic]

SPOILER

00:24:725 - There's some sounds in between here, but there isn't a sound at 00:24:901 (7) - , so consider changing this pattern.
Using something like you did 00:25:695 (1) - would add to consistency.
^ 00:30:372 -
^ 00:31:078 -
^ 00:38:137 -
...

00:27:372 (6) - Can't hear this. You should only map where there are impacts of some kind from some instrument.
At the moment you're not reflecting the music, you're adding to it, also known as overmapping. Consider removing it.
^ 00:33:019 (6) -
^ 00:35:842 (5) -
^ 00:46:784 (3) - if anything the sound you're hearing is at 00:46:695 -
^ 00:49:960 (5) -
...

00:29:225 - Pay attention to the timeline and listen closely to which notes are stronger than others. There's a large white tick on the timeline, indicating a downbeat. Usually these are stronger than other beats, and are also good to NC. Consider making it clickable and NCing it instead of 00:29:401 (1) - .
^ 00:43:342 -
...

00:35:313 - Map this, I can hear a sound.
^ 00:36:901 -
^ 00:51:725 -
...

I'll stop pointing out some stuff, since it repeats a lot, so remember to check through your map thoroughly for similar problems.

01:02:578 - This is as strong as 01:03:107 - and should be clickable imo.
^ Try keeping consistent with how you map specific sounds. For example 01:04:166 - and 01:04:872 - are similar, yet one is clickable and the other isn't.

00:54:460 - Here's a strong vocal, but it's not mapped. Instead instruments are mapped.
But then later, at 01:05:754 - , this is mapped as a long slider starting from a strong vocal, but this time instruments are being ignored.
Consider keeping consistent with how you map sounds. Often this is done by prioritizing an instrumental layer, for example drums, melody or vocal.

01:19:342 - This beat is quite weak, I doubt mapping it as a circle will be good. Try having it be a slider end or simply ignore it. Save clickable objects for sounds that are clearly heard, prioritizing making stronger sounds clickable.
^ 01:24:989 -

01:21:107 (6) - Usually you'd want to avoid having a slider point out of the map being this close to the edge. Consider changing the flow around here to avoid that.

01:55:391 - The song is still quite strong around here. It seems like the song fades later as well, which is usually not something you'd want in a map.
If possible, edit it in a way that allows the song to end on a distinct beat instead of fading. For example by building up using a reverse cymbal crash and then cutting the song, but still allowing some cymbal crash or something to continue after impacting where the song is cut, so it still ends smoothly.
If you don't know how to do this, I would suggest asking someone with experience or looking for help in the appropriate forum.
It's not necessary, but I gave my opinion at least. (If you want me to do this, send me a pm on the forums. Just keep in mind that you'll probably have to change your offset for all difficulties after changing mp3)

Decrease OD to 7 to keep in curve with Hard's OD 6.

Try working a bit on rhythm. Strong sounds should be clickable, weaker sounds could be slider ends. If you can't actually hear a sound somewhere, don't map it. Overmapping isn't seen well upon by the community, so I'd suggest you avoid it.

[

Vicky's Snow~]

SPOILER

00:03:460 (3,4) - I can't hear these, consider removing them. They're not reflecting the music; they're adding to it, also known as overmapping.
^ 00:06:460 - repeat is unnecessary. You may be mapping the echo, but I wouldn't suggest it, and 00:01:872 - 's echo isn't mapped either, so it'd be inconsistent.
^ 00:27:725 (5) -
^ 00:58:695 (5) - could be mapped as a slider end instead, since the sound ends here.

00:25:695 (5,1) - You know, 5x spacing is probably a bit much. Consider reducing the distance.

^ 00:32:048 (1,2) - 4x is also a bit much

00:28:431 - Consider mapping this, I hear a sound here.

00:36:284 - I think you should make this clickabe, it's a strong beat. Note that it's a large white tick on the timeline, this means it's a downbeat. Downbeats are usually stronger than other beats and as such they're often clickable. Lifting your finger on a strong beat makes no sense imo. You can also NC the measure properly by making the downbeat clickable.

00:35:754 (1) - I don't see why you're NCing this. There's no distinct change in the song and it's not a new measure. If you're NCing it for the health boost, I'd recommend you'd make the pattern slightly easier instead, as doing that shouldn't be necessary (if you're actually doing that, then consider reducing HP instead).
^ 00:38:225 (1) - It makes sense here because the song has some distinct vocals here that you're mapping, and SV also changes.
^ 00:56:754 - This makes sense as well because the vocals clearly change pitch.
^ 00:38:754 (1) - this makes no sense, however.

I'll stop pointing out some stuff, so remember to check through the map thoroughly for similar problems.

01:07:342 (3) - NC this and remove NC from the spinner. This note will act as the beat and the spinner will give resolution to that beat.

01:09:284 (2,3,4,1,2) - It's extremely important that you use SV consistently. It makes no sense that these have one SV and 01:10:695 (2,3,4,1,2) - has different SV, because they're basically the same in the song.
^ There's a lot of this earlier as well, so check that.

01:30:195 - You're missing some sounds in between here.
^ 01:30:637 (2,3) - I don't think these sounds cover everything. Try using a repeat with a different beat snap divisor.

01:31:342 - Pretty powerful instrumental impact here, but 01:31:166 - is a powerful vocal impact, which you've mapped. So you're basically following vocal here, but you're not doing this consistently throughout the song. I'd suggest you prioritize which one you follow and keep to it throughout the song. (you can still map other sounds, note "prioritize")

01:37:872 (4) - I still don't like the SV changes, but if you're going to keep them, at least indicate it properly with an NC.

01:48:637 (1,2,3,1,2) - So here you're mapping it as circles. Previously you mapped it as sliders, and right after this you map it as sliders again 01:50:048 (1,2,3,1,2) - . Try keeping consistent with how you map sounds. If you're going to vary it, do so consistently.

01:51:989 - There's slider ends with strong vocals that can be mapped to increase SR instead of using SV changes like this.
^ Applies to previous parts as well.

01:52:607 (1) - This spinner is an unrankable technique; "Ninja Spinners". I know this because autopilot wasn't able to get 2000 points on it.
Consider removing it.

01:51:989 - I haven't really check hitsounds, but shouldn't this slider end have a whistle?
^ Probably applies to rest of diff as well.

You may want to balance HP and OD, because right now OD is at 8 while HP is still at 6.
I'd try something like HP 7, OD 7.5. (assuming you make some changes to the map so it's not as jumpy and has so high velocity changes)

Like I mentioned earlier, you'll want to check through your diff thoroughly for similar problems.

Try working a bit on reducing SV changes, improving your fundamentals of rhythm, and keeping consistent with how you map parallel sections of the map.
You definitely don't need such high SV and spacing in order to get a difficulty of this song to this SR.

[

General]

SPOILER

See the mod on the Lunatic difficulty about the mp3.

You may want to set the background in the other difficulties.
For me the only background in the folder is MasshiroBG-.jpg, which is the one Vicky is using.

Rest looks fine, though I recommend you recheck your hitsounds.

Good luck!

Miriko

188 posts

Joined July 2014

Miriko 2016-07-16T22:36:35+00:00

I got too frustrated from trying to post and the website not allowing me to post it and erasing all the replies I did to the mod but I did take in most of the suggestions.

Thanks for the mod~

Doj

232 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Doj 2016-08-03T17:30:15+00:00

Naxess wrote:
NM From Queue

rip background

[ Lunatic]
SPOILER
I'll just say this now before I start. I skimmed through this mod and you seem to be pointing out things about overmapping. I do agree overmapping can be bad, but there are ways to be creative to make your own beat. Not all instances of overmapping needs to be fixed just because it's overmapped.
00:24:725 - There's some sounds in between here, but there isn't a sound at 00:24:901 (7) - , so consider changing this pattern.
Using something like you did 00:25:695 (1) - would add to consistency.
^ 00:30:372 -
^ 00:31:078 -
^ 00:38:137 -
... For the above mods I wasn't sure what sounds you were hearing. I understood what you meant about the places where there weren't sounds though. I fixed those places.

00:27:372 (6) - Can't hear this. You should only map where there are impacts of some kind from some instrument.
At the moment you're not reflecting the music, you're adding to it, also known as overmapping. Consider removing it. fixed
^ 00:33:019 (6) - fixed
^ 00:35:842 (5) - fixed
^ 00:46:784 (3) - if anything the sound you're hearing is at 00:46:695 - Yea it may be overmapped, but I see no problem. I see it as creativity.
^ 00:49:960 (5) - fixed
...

00:29:225 - Pay attention to the timeline and listen closely to which notes are stronger than others. There's a large white tick on the timeline, indicating a downbeat. Usually these are stronger than other beats, and are also good to NC. Consider making it clickable and NCing it instead of 00:29:401 (1) - . fixed
^ 00:43:342 - fixed
...

00:35:313 - Map this, I can hear a sound. Not to sounds rude, but I honestly don't hear what your talking about
^ 00:36:901 - fixed
^ 00:51:725 - fixed
...

I'll stop pointing out some stuff, since it repeats a lot, so remember to check through your map thoroughly for similar problems.

01:02:578 - This is as strong as 01:03:107 - and should be clickable imo. fixed
^ Try keeping consistent with how you map specific sounds. For example 01:04:166 - and 01:04:872 - are similar, yet one is clickable and the other isn't.

00:54:460 - Here's a strong vocal, but it's not mapped. Instead instruments are mapped. I don't think I need to map this one because it'll take away from playing the second one.
But then later, at 01:05:754 - , this is mapped as a long slider starting from a strong vocal, but this time instruments are being ignored.
Consider keeping consistent with how you map sounds. Often this is done by prioritizing an instrumental layer, for example drums, melody or vocal.

01:19:342 - This beat is quite weak, I doubt mapping it as a circle will be good. Try having it be a slider end or simply ignore it. Save clickable objects for sounds that are clearly heard, prioritizing making stronger sounds clickable.
^ 01:24:989 - keeping this

01:21:107 (6) - Usually you'd want to avoid having a slider point out of the map being this close to the edge. Consider changing the flow around here to avoid that.

01:55:391 - The song is still quite strong around here. It seems like the song fades later as well, which is usually not something you'd want in a map.
If possible, edit it in a way that allows the song to end on a distinct beat instead of fading. For example by building up using a reverse cymbal crash and then cutting the song, but still allowing some cymbal crash or something to continue after impacting where the song is cut, so it still ends smoothly.
If you don't know how to do this, I would suggest asking someone with experience or looking for help in the appropriate forum.
It's not necessary, but I gave my opinion at least. (If you want me to do this, send me a pm on the forums. Just keep in mind that you'll probably have to change your offset for all difficulties after changing mp3)

Decrease OD to 7 to keep in curve with Hard's OD 6.I changed it to 7.2

Try working a bit on rhythm. Strong sounds should be clickable, weaker sounds could be slider ends. If you can't actually hear a sound somewhere, don't map it. Overmapping isn't seen well upon by the community, so I'd suggest you avoid it.

[ General]
SPOILER
See the mod on the Lunatic difficulty about the mp3.

You may want to set the background in the other difficulties.
For me the only background in the folder is MasshiroBG-.jpg, which is the one Vicky is using.

Rest looks fine, though I recommend you recheck your hitsounds.

Hitsounds will be rechecked.

Good luck!

Thanks!

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Logic Agent 2016-08-17T17:33:41+00:00

hi doj i love you

[General]

Your Easy diff doesn't have combo colors... so... ya
Not sure if this is an unrankable issue, but there are inconsistent kiais between your diffs and your gd. Just be aware that's a thing
Inside your maps folder there is a SB folder with only one thing inside of it, and I don't see that element being used in any of the maps... Unless it's a wip storyboard you can probably just take it out of there.

[Vicky's Snow]

00:08:401 (2,3) - even out the spacing here? the really tiny overlap isn't noticeable from an aesthetics standpoint imo so I'd just get rid of it
01:15:107 (2,1) - blanket
01:33:989 (1,2) - to me, stacking these seems kind of weird considering you didn't stack 01:32:578 (1,2), starting a stack here feels like you're changing what you're emphasizing
01:36:107 (4) - maybe move this to the left a tiny bit? 01:35:754 (2) could use some breathing room
01:37:872 (4) - move this to the right a bit? starting a kickslider in the trail of a fading out slider is pretty easy to misread, so just having the slider head start further to the right makes this easier to play.
01:43:872 (8,1,1) - two things here, first just refer back to what I said about stacking this changing what I think you're emphasizing, and then also 01:44:048 (1) this doesn't need nc.

[Lunatic]

00:50:225 (1,2,3) - even out spacing?
00:54:284 (5,1) - the spacing here is more than likely going to be misread. The spacing you're using is staying consistent even though there's a short pause you're mapping to, so it's best to give space to these or change this so that you can stack them which is what you did the first time (00:45:813 (7,1))
00:59:931 (5,1) - ^ although this one might be a bit better
01:04:166 (6,1) - these two could use a bit more space as well imo
01:17:578 (3) - maybe move this down a bit more? It'd better emphasize the drum kick as well as the jump to 01:17:754 (4) to make the 3/4 vocal slider feel nicer
01:43:695 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - this looks a bit cluttered to me. I reccomend making the jump from 9 to 10 more linear (maybe move 10 to x188 y273 or something like that?) and also giving a bit of space between 01:43:872 (7,1) would help this feel more spaced out
01:47:578 (4,7) - fix overlap

[Hard]

00:10:695 (3,4,5) - this could look better if you made it look more like this imo
00:29:754 (2,4) - make these two a bit farther apart?
00:31:872 - I know why you would want to put a small pause here but I think that skipping out on this vocal is kinda bad, and I'd put a note here if I were you
01:13:519 (5,1) - space these out a bit more as well imo
01:14:048 (6,2) - aesthetic mod inc

Easy and Normal look okay to me for the most part, hope these help~

Miriko

188 posts

Joined July 2014

Miriko 2016-08-18T11:53:51+00:00

Logic Agent wrote:
[Vicky's Snow]
00:08:401 (2,3) - even out the spacing here? the really tiny overlap isn't noticeable from an aesthetics standpoint imo so I'd just get rid of it Done!
01:15:107 (2,1) - blanket Not really sure what part to actually blanket but I think I fixed it...(sort of...)
01:33:989 (1,2) - to me, stacking these seems kind of weird considering you didn't stack 01:32:578 (1,2), starting a stack here feels like you're changing what you're emphasizing Changed~
01:36:107 (4) - maybe move this to the left a tiny bit? 01:35:754 (2) could use some breathing room I'll leave that alone for now. It's supposed to have a star pattern in it. xD
01:37:872 (4) - move this to the right a bit? starting a kickslider in the trail of a fading out slider is pretty easy to misread, so just having the slider head start further to the right makes this easier to play. Okay~
01:43:872 (8,1,1) - two things here, first just refer back to what I said about stacking this changing what I think you're emphasizing, and then also 01:44:048 (1) this doesn't need nc. Changed!

Thank you for the mod~

I've been away for a bit! >< Sorry for the late reply!

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Ataraxia

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Ataraxia 2016-08-26T18:40:54+00:00

ur miss a clap her 01:10:518 (5) - "Lunatic"

no kd xd

edit: drum finish her to 01:10:166 (1) -

Doj

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Doj 2016-08-30T20:06:39+00:00

Ataraxia wrote:
ur miss a clap her 01:10:518 (5) - "Lunatic"

no kd xd

edit: drum finish her to 01:10:166 (1) -

thanks

Doj

232 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

Doj 2016-08-30T20:35:10+00:00

Logic Agent wrote:

hi doj i love you

[General]
Your Easy diff doesn't have combo colors... so... ya will fix
Not sure if this is an unrankable issue, but there are inconsistent kiais between your diffs and your gd. Just be aware that's a thing
Inside your maps folder there is a SB folder with only one thing inside of it, and I don't see that element being used in any of the maps... Unless it's a wip storyboard you can probably just take it out of there. Cleaned it up

[Lunatic]
00:50:225 (1,2,3) - even out spacing?
00:54:284 (5,1) - the spacing here is more than likely going to be misread. The spacing you're using is staying consistent even though there's a short pause you're mapping to, so it's best to give space to these or change this so that you can stack them which is what you did the first time (00:45:813 (7,1))
00:59:931 (5,1) - ^ although this one might be a bit better
01:04:166 (6,1) - these two could use a bit more space as well imo
01:17:578 (3) - maybe move this down a bit more? It'd better emphasize the drum kick as well as the jump to 01:17:754 (4) to make the 3/4 vocal slider feel nicer
01:43:695 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - this looks a bit cluttered to me. I reccomend making the jump from 9 to 10 more linear (maybe move 10 to x188 y273 or something like that?) and also giving a bit of space between 01:43:872 (7,1) would help this feel more spaced out
01:47:578 (4,7) - fix overlap
[Hard]
00:10:695 (3,4,5) - this could look better if you made it look more like this imo
00:29:754 (2,4) - make these two a bit farther apart?
00:31:872 - I know why you would want to put a small pause here but I think that skipping out on this vocal is kinda bad, and I'd put a note here if I were you
01:13:519 (5,1) - space these out a bit more as well imo
01:14:048 (6,2) - aesthetic mod inc
Easy and Normal look okay to me for the most part, hope these help~

I applied most of the stuff you said
Finally answer 5 years later. i luv u 2 bby

updated.

Winnie

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Joined November 2013

Winnie 2017-10-17T22:21:40+00:00

Just here to get back into the modding grind again.

[General Stuff/Unrankable Stuff]

Lunatic Difficulty has a lot of unsnapped stuff better go back and review them in AiMod
Vicky's diff also has unsnapped objects
Actually just check all the diffs for unsnapped objects pls thanks.

[Vicky's Snow~]

00:00:990 (1) - Not sure why this note isn't the same as 00:02:401 (1) - or vice versa. Not really something I'd expect to just suddenly switch up after the first use of it even though it sounds the same.
00:15:813 (1,2,3,4) - This is very sudden 15 seconds in already implemented 1/4 patterns that leave the buildup stale. Up to you though but I'd suggest keeping rhythm simple up until then.
00:23:578 (1) - I'd even extend this to the blue tick. So it feels consistent while playing for the vocal cuts.
00:26:842 (2,3) - Rhythm wise fine but the spacing is really really big to compare them with singles notes at 00:26:048 (1,2) - it'll visually look the same but played completely different. I'll work on your rhythm and just to move them a lot closer. Otherwise, you can remove the note on the blue tick and even implement something like this to be simple to play off the vocals as well. https://puu.sh/y0BOA/19a272d57b.png
00:28:342 (4,5,6) - Can also be like 00:25:695 (5) - your choice
00:29:048 (1) - Really bad slider here, skips a really strong beat at 00:29:226 - Your idea might be nice but the rhythm execution is poor and this one holds you back because this was what I'd expect you to do https://puu.sh/y0BV8/eafcd56b1c.png
00:32:489 (2,3) - Could be said the same but this one is more lenient with how the 1/4s were placed before this.
00:33:989 (3,4) - This is where your triplet you placed before I mentioned could be at.
00:41:754 (6,1) - Visually seems weird to me. If you're not paying super close attention you can barely see (1) before it comes up. Could be me but I'd ask someone about this more.
00:58:872 (1) - Feels like a really random slider because most of them are linear or slightly curved. This one, in particular, is very angled but no issue.
01:17:754 (2) - Slightly more spacing would make this play even better.
01:18:461 (1,2) - Rhythm feels nice Ctrl+G
01:21:989 (1,2,3,4,5) - Your patterning to me doesn't feel that great here. It's a rotation but 01:22:695 (5,1) - is really cutting you off. Maybe the case in which they are positioned. If it was at a different spot it'll play better
01:31:342 (2,1,2) - Could also be https://puu.sh/y0Ckh/f3fbf583a2.png keeps spacing after (2) pretty nice your choice.
01:45:284 (1) - Same as previously could be said here
01:51:107 (1) - Could add more emphasis by spacing this somewhere else but it's fine
01:51:989 (5,6,1) - Pretty cool but has a crazy affect while playing this is actually hard.
Other than that should be decent.

[Lunatic]

00:13:519 (9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I feel like these parts are really drowning out the electronic parts of the map. It's just consecutive streams and 1/4 sliders. You definitely can have them while implementing the same rhythms you did at the start of the song. Ex: https://puu.sh/y0CTo/c512e2c6fd.png
Just a general idea of what you could've done as well. Your choice in the matter
00:16:343 (1,2) - Don't feel like they quite fit this is where what I've said above you could use. Ex: https://puu.sh/y0D1u/cba73e437c.png
00:17:401 (7) - You can hear the strong emphasis on the sliderend. You can have rhythm in 2 ways. Extend the repeat 1 more time to the blue tick or remove the repeat and add another 1/4 slider there. I'd do the triple 1/4s here if it was up to me.
00:25:695 (5,6,7) - Overlap on Lunatic could be strange. Could also be moved to https://puu.sh/y0D9i/144e27c18f.jpg but up to you here no issues
00:26:401 (1,2,3,4,5) 00:32:048 (1,2,3,4,5) - Explain to me your reasoning for mapping with different movements here for the vocal cuts I'd love to know
00:34:519 (5,1) - Can even be spaced further
00:36:284 (1,2,3,4) - Lots of stacked overlaps doesn't bring you much but should be no issue as well
00:42:284 (3) - I'd even NC this to show the change in other repeat sliders such as this one. It's quite a long hold
00:45:636 (9,10,11) - Can also be Ex:https://puu.sh/y0Dlf/93a7c080eb.png to add more emphasis to the last note
00:46:784 (3) - Phantom note doesn't provide you with anything and will confuse a lot of players who play this. I'd suggest to remove it
00:56:578 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Very bad trying to emphasize a rhythm but using a stream for it. I'd change it to something like this https://puu.sh/y0DuL/57ce162ac3.png or how you want it just not a stream.
01:01:519 (1) - Even stated on top diff skipping weird usable emphasizable beats
01:05:754 (1) - Just a random 5/3 slider out in the middle of the song hmm even though I get it's for vocals
Kiai is just normal other than that it's aight

Doj

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Topic Starter

Doj 2017-12-09T03:14:19+00:00

Kocari wrote:
Just here to get back into the modding grind again.

[General Stuff/Unrankable Stuff]
Lunatic Difficulty has a lot of unsnapped stuff better go back and review them in AiMod
Vicky's diff also has unsnapped objects rip her diff
Actually just check all the diffs for unsnapped objects pls thanks. idk why the fuck that happened tbh

[Lunatic]
00:13:519 (9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I feel like these parts are really drowning out the electronic parts of the map. It's just consecutive streams and 1/4 sliders. You definitely can have them while implementing the same rhythms you did at the start of the song. Ex: https://puu.sh/y0CTo/c512e2c6fd.png
Just a general idea of what you could've done as well. Your choice in the matter good idea, changed
00:16:343 (1,2) - Don't feel like they quite fit this is where what I've said above you could use. Ex: https://puu.sh/y0D1u/cba73e437c.png changed
00:17:401 (7) - You can hear the strong emphasis on the sliderend. You can have rhythm in 2 ways. Extend the repeat 1 more time to the blue tick or remove the repeat and add another 1/4 slider there. I'd do the triple 1/4s here if it was up to me. i love you
00:25:695 (5,6,7) - Overlap on Lunatic could be strange. Could also be moved to https://puu.sh/y0D9i/144e27c18f.jpg but up to you here no issues changed
00:26:401 (1,2,3,4,5) 00:32:048 (1,2,3,4,5) - Explain to me your reasoning for mapping with different movements here for the vocal cuts I'd love to know Well, i felt that mappoing them this way actually gives the player some kind of feeling of the vocals as the sliders are played, since the movement forces you to snap quickly without feeling to sharp of a movement. If that makes sense.
00:34:519 (5,1) - Can even be spaced further changed
00:36:284 (1,2,3,4) - Lots of stacked overlaps doesn't bring you much but should be no issue as well fixed the overlaps
00:42:284 (3) - I'd even NC this to show the change in other repeat sliders such as this one. It's quite a long hold changed
00:45:636 (9,10,11) - Can also be Ex:https://puu.sh/y0Dlf/93a7c080eb.png to add more emphasis to the last notechanged
00:46:784 (3) - Phantom note doesn't provide you with anything and will confuse a lot of players who play this. I'd suggest to remove it changed
00:56:578 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Very bad trying to emphasize a rhythm but using a stream for it. I'd change it to something like this https://puu.sh/y0DuL/57ce162ac3.png or how you want it just not a stream. changed
01:01:519 (1) - Even stated on top diff skipping weird usable emphasizable beats changed
01:05:754 (1) - Just a random 5/3 slider out in the middle of the song hmm even though I get it's for vocals changed
Kiai is just normal other than that it's aight

only 2 months later :thonkin:

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