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AOP - Zenryoku Batankyuu (TV Version)

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Pata-Mon
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年5月2日 at 18:10:32

Artist: AOP
Title: Zenryoku Batankyuu (TV Version)
Source: おそ松さん
Tags: DreaM117er TT Mouse Osomatsu-san Anime OP opening size
BPM: 155
Filesize: 1805kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. 117's Easy (1.36 stars, 97 notes)
  2. Normal (2.21 stars, 168 notes)
  3. SHEE! (4.06 stars, 329 notes)
  4. Tt's Hard (3.05 stars, 246 notes)
Download: AOP - Zenryoku Batankyuu (TV Version)
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A応P - 全力バタンキュー (TV Version)
（おそ松さん）

GD Information
117's Easy：DreaM117er
Tt's Hard：TT Mouse
Last edited by Pata-Mon , edited 46 times in total.
DreaM117er
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DreaM117er
mark :)
TtmnZk
Elite Mapper
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Joined March 2013
TtmnZk
Tt
Hazu-
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Joined July 2014
Hazu-
RIP EPISODE 24
Hi M4M :3

117's Easy

  1. 00:23:560 (1) - I think it looks better like a blanket.
  2. 01:00:334 - You should put a circle here, it feels very empty.

Normal

  1. 00:02:657 (3) - End slider in 00:02:851 - and return (Image)
  2. 00:15:431 (3) - Bad idea to end the slider with the big white tick.
  3. 00:23:367 (4) - ^
  4. 01:16:012 (4) - ^
  5. 01:17:754 (1) - to 01:23:947 (1) - This is very random, you should put anything.

Tt's Hard

  1. 00:02:657 (4) - Fix the blanket.
  2. 00:03:044 (5) - ^
  3. Link 00:25:109 (1) - with 00:25:496 (2) -

SHEE!

  1. 00:01:689 (3) - Bad idea to end the slider with the big white tick.
  2. 00:07:883 (5) - ^
  3. 00:21:818 (6) - ^
  4. 00:23:367 (3) - ^ (Especially here, this beat is so strong.)
  5. 00:31:109 (5) - ^
  6. 00:45:044 (5) - ^
  7. 01:02:076 (5) - ^
  8. 01:16:012 (1) - ^
  9. 01:19:109 (1) - ^
  10. 01:25:302 (5) - ^
Pata-Mon
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Siiilver wrote:

Normal

  1. 00:02:657 (3) - End slider in 00:02:851 - and return (Image) not needed
  2. 00:15:431 (3) - Bad idea to end the slider with the big white tick. it's just a Normal diff
  3. 00:23:367 (4) - ^
  4. 01:16:012 (4) - ^
  5. 01:17:754 (1) - to 01:23:947 (1) - This is very random, you should put anything. Considering……

SHEE!

  1. 00:01:689 (3) - Bad idea to end the slider with the big white tick. All of them are start at the starting of vocal and end at drum, I think it's ok
  2. 00:07:883 (5) - ^
  3. 00:21:818 (6) - ^
  4. 00:23:367 (3) - ^ (Especially here, this beat is so strong.)
  5. 00:31:109 (5) - ^
  6. 00:45:044 (5) - ^
  7. 01:02:076 (5) - ^
  8. 01:16:012 (1) - ^
  9. 01:19:109 (1) - ^
  10. 01:25:302 (5) - ^
Thanks for mod
KaedekaShizuru
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Joined January 2013
KaedekaShizuru
As request

[General]
视频有露点……虽然是爷们的 也许不安全

[SHEE!]
00:26:657 (1) 、00:28:205 (1) - 换成3/4slider指向下一个note 并给滑条尾消音
00:32:657 (5) - 放到00:31:689 (2) 下面叠好
00:35:947 (1,2,3,4,5) - try this：http://puu.sh/nQU7Q/7323ed807d.png
00:37:496 (1) - 向后挪1/8拍 然后在这里放个circle跟前面00:35:947 (1,2,3,4,5) 组成一组梗
00:42:722 (3) - 为什么不把它的slider head叠到00:41:560 (5) 下面呢
00:46:399 (1,2,3,4) - 调整位置不要跟00:45:625 (2)碰到 建议跟00:45:044 (5) 做blanket
00:54:141 (4) - slider head的位置顺着00:52:205 (1,2,3) 的flow
00:58:399 (1,3) - 两个slider放在同一直线上
01:08:076 (4) - 放在01:09:431 (4) 尾端
感觉你跳放不开 结果就变成了死压DS 虽无过但也没有亮点

[Normal]
00:59:173 (1,2,3) 、01:00:722 (1,2,3) - 会不会太难了？
01:16:012 (4) - 换circle然后spinner从01:16:205 起
把break填满 后面太短了

GD都没什么好摸的 good luck
Pata-Mon
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Pata-Mon

KaedekaShizuru wrote:

As request

[General]
视频有露点……虽然是爷们的 也许不安全 噫……这个事等bn

[SHEE!]
00:26:657 (1) 、00:28:205 (1) - 换成3/4slider指向下一个note 并给滑条尾消音 这两个地方的vocal是很干净利落的声音，适合用note
00:32:657 (5) - 放到00:31:689 (2) 下面叠好 好
00:35:947 (1,2,3,4,5) - try this：http://puu.sh/nQU7Q/7323ed807d.png 其实这里我自己都觉得难看，之前懒改2333
00:37:496 (1) - 向后挪1/8拍 然后在这里放个circle跟前面00:35:947 (1,2,3,4,5) 组成一组梗 考虑到人声的情况我觉得那里不适合放note
00:42:722 (3) - 为什么不把它的slider head叠到00:41:560 (5) 下面呢 现在叠的是00:41:367 (4,2) - ，然后00:42:528 (2,3) - 又是blanket，如果00:42:722 (3) - 往下转角度又会和00:42:141 (1) - 擦边等等一堆问题……总之就不叠了
00:46:399 (1,2,3,4) - 调整位置不要跟00:45:625 (2)碰到 建议跟00:45:044 (5) 做blanket 感觉这跟前面隔够远了……我这图基本相邻全是各种包和叠，如果不是很需要改的话我尽量不想动，太难弄了懒
00:54:141 (4) - slider head的位置顺着00:52:205 (1,2,3) 的flow 呃，说真的这隔得太远了……你这么说感觉是only for EZ mod呀
00:58:399 (1,3) - 两个slider放在同一直线上 现在就是同一直线呀，我做的时候用的ctrl+shift+s的
01:08:076 (4) - 放在01:09:431 (4) 尾端 这个改起来比较简单就改了吧
感觉你跳放不开 结果就变成了死压DS 虽无过但也没有亮点 这个图我一开始就打算做4星左右，而且整首歌我觉得情绪都差不多，没有太多特别激昂的地方，所以ds变化比较少我觉得是合理的。我觉得该强调的地方我基本还是放更远了的~

[Normal]
00:59:173 (1,2,3) 、01:00:722 (1,2,3) - 会不会太难了？不想改这里，实在不行再说吧
01:16:012 (4) - 换circle然后spinner从01:16:205 起 填break的话我把转盘删了
把break填满 后面太短了 好

GD都没什么好摸的 good luck
Thanks for mod
Pata-Mon
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@TT Mouse
hi，我注意到你的难度里有一个小问题
00:09:625 (1) - 碰到hp条了，需要调整一下位置
下次更新的时候顺便改一下吧~谢谢
Crowie
osu!artist
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Joined August 2015
Crowie
[SHEE!]

General - Since the bpm is quite low, it would be good to make jumps during kiai time and the jumps in the end larger

00:01:689 (3) - Looks weird in relation to the previous slider, so make it curve upwards
00:04:786 (3) - How about turn this into a small slider?
00:06:334 (4) - Change to a triple preceding the next slider? Even better if the triple goes in the same direction as the original jump slider
00:10:980 (5) - How about turn this into a small slider?
00:16:205 (2,3,4) - Kinda awkward to jump...make the angle a bit sharper
00:20:464 (1) - That looks pretty ugly, move it preferably right underneath 00:20:076 (4)
00:21:238 (4) - The pattern there doesn't quite fit the music, so move this out from under 00:20:657 (2)
00:25:883 (1,2,3,4) - This is seriously confusing, move out from under 00:25:496 (3)
00:31:689 (2,3) - This part would feel much better as jumps
00:39:818 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Since kiai time is right after, I think making the spacing bigger would be good. Also switch the order of the different spacings (large => small)
00:41:947 (6) - Triple?
00:48:141 (5,1) - ^
01:10:399 (2) - ugly pattern, move this down below 01:10:012 (1)
01:16:786 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Kiai time, you could make the streams larger spaced
01:22:205 (3) - How about turn this into a small slider?
01:23:754 (4) - Change to a triple preceding the next slider?

srry if mods are bad ;w;
Pata-Mon
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ghostshipCrowie wrote:

[SHEE!]

General - Since the bpm is quite low, it would be good to make jumps during kiai time and the jumps in the end larger kiai not needed. end, i may change later

00:01:689 (3) - Looks weird in relation to the previous slider, so make it curve upwards nope
00:04:786 (3) - How about turn this into a small slider? nope
00:06:334 (4) - Change to a triple preceding the next slider? Even better if the triple goes in the same direction as the original jump slider I think it's ok now
00:10:980 (5) - How about turn this into a small slider? nope
00:16:205 (2,3,4) - Kinda awkward to jump...make the angle a bit sharper hard to play /= not fit I think, and it's just 3-object-jump, not so hard
00:20:464 (1) - That looks pretty ugly, move it preferably right underneath 00:20:076 (4) fixed in another way
00:21:238 (4) - The pattern there doesn't quite fit the music, so move this out from under 00:20:657 (2) it's ok
00:25:883 (1,2,3,4) - This is seriously confusing, move out from under 00:25:496 (3) nope
00:31:689 (2,3) - This part would feel much better as jumps not needed
00:39:818 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Since kiai time is right after, I think making the spacing bigger would be good. Also switch the order of the different spacings (large => small) I prefer small to large. and ds 00:40:205 (1,2,3,4,1) - is 0.7, while other strings is 0.3, that means I have made some change.
00:41:947 (6) - Triple? keep
00:48:141 (5,1) - ^ ^
01:10:399 (2) - ugly pattern, move this down below 01:10:012 (1) fixed in another way
01:16:786 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Kiai time, you could make the streams larger spaced ok
01:22:205 (3) - How about turn this into a small slider? nope
01:23:754 (4) - Change to a triple preceding the next slider? nope

srry if mods are bad ;w;
thanks for mod
Misure
951 posts
Joined September 2012
Misure
各位早owo 求个m4m :)
[SHEE!]
  1. 00:06:528 (1,2,3) - 这个flow感觉不太好 00:07:302 (3) - 换向再转个角度什么的？这个角度接45好像也不太好的样子
  2. 00:08:851 (4) - 个人偏向ctrl+G 主要是接前面会比较好 感觉
  3. 00:15:431 (6,1) - 分别ctrl+G？也是感觉接前面有点生硬
  4. 00:20:464 (1,3,4) - 这三个stack感觉略耿直。。摆了一下感觉怎么stack都不是很舒服 :o 这样好一点flow感觉,仅供参考啦：
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4783301
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4783303
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4783309
  5. 00:23:367 (3) - 不如就这样的？flow
  6. 00:42:722 (3,4,5) - 额这个折线flow 我比较推荐5放左边向右flow 这样0.0
  7. 01:02:076 (5) - ctrl+G？
    其实比较想问为什么不多用点大弧度滑条...
[Tt's Hard]
  1. 00:09:625 (1) - 挡血条了
  2. 01:11:173 (4) - 出界...其实我一直想问为什么我没办法把东西放到界外啊 除非改过CS..
  3. 00:07:302 (2) - 再远一点点比较完美
  4. 00:56:076 (1,2) - 近了吧0.0
  5. 01:27:044 (1,2,3,4,5) - 节奏这样？
[Normal]
  1. 00:27:431 - 00:28:980 - 感觉这两个点也下NC可能感觉会更好？
  2. 00:30:528 (3) - 这种节奏试试？
  3. 00:44:657 (2,1,2) - 这flow不太好吧，感觉不如这样，额我是这个意思啦
  4. 00:47:560 (2,3) - stack怎么样？
  5. 00:57:238 (2,1,2,3,4) - 这节奏感觉好难打啊 不如00:57:818 (2) - 不用折返 空一拍？
[117's Easy]
  1. 00:22:399 - 要不要也NC一下呢
  2. 01:00:722 (2) - 向左弯怎么样？
  3. 01:20:851 (1) - 这个方向有点别扭，要不01:20:076 (3) - 向上弯，01:20:851 (1) - 向右弯？
曲子有点萌萌哒;w;
Good luck! :)
Pata-Mon
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Pata-Mon

Misure wrote:

各位早owo 求个m4m :)
[SHEE!]
  1. 00:06:528 (1,2,3) - 这个flow感觉不太好 00:07:302 (3) - 换向再转个角度什么的？这个角度接45好像也不太好的样子 没啥想法……暂时保留吧
  2. 00:08:851 (4) - 个人偏向ctrl+G 主要是接前面会比较好 感觉
  3. 00:15:431 (6,1) - 分别ctrl+G？也是感觉接前面有点生硬 唔，为什么这两个地方我都觉得现在这样接前面比ctrl+G舒服呢？现在都是锐角g完变钝角了啊……而且这几个滑条大多都是方向随音高的，ctrl+G就反了
  4. 00:20:464 (1,3,4) - 这三个stack感觉略耿直。。摆了一下感觉怎么stack都不是很舒服 :o 这样好一点flow感觉,仅供参考啦： 感觉不错~不过我把你的2ctrl+G摆了
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4783301
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4783303
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4783309
  5. 00:23:367 (3) - 不如就这样的？flow 现在2和3平行，感觉还好
  6. 00:42:722 (3,4,5) - 额这个折线flow 我比较推荐5放左边向右flow 这样0.0 你没给链接呀……现在这里是对称，先保留
  7. 01:02:076 (5) - ctrl+G？ 好
    其实比较想问为什么不多用点大弧度滑条... 感觉大多数时候弧度小更好看啊……
[Normal]
  1. 00:27:431 - 00:28:980 - 感觉这两个点也下NC可能感觉会更好？ 我强迫症很重哒……不加
  2. 00:30:528 (3) - 这种节奏试试？ 整个难度我都是优先跟人声啦
  3. 00:44:657 (2,1,2) - 这flow不太好吧，感觉不如这样，额我是这个意思啦 别的方法改了一下
  4. 00:47:560 (2,3) - stack怎么样？好
  5. 00:57:238 (2,1,2,3,4) - 这节奏感觉好难打啊 不如00:57:818 (2) - 不用折返 空一拍？感觉空拍更不舒服啊
曲子有点萌萌哒;w;
Good luck! :)
谢摸~
Lily Bread
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Joined December 2014
Lily Bread
[117]
没问题

[Normal]
01:00:722 (1,2,3) - 按习惯来说这三个一般是跟前三个错开一点会比较好
挺好的

[Tt's Hard]
00:11:173 (1,2,3,4) - 和- 00:05:560 (2,3,4,5) - 不一样， - 00:11:173 (1,2,3,4) -都只有鼓点，所以 - 00:11:464 - 也应该有个圈。如果觉得这样塞太满那 - 00:11:851 (3,4) - 也应该要删掉
00:19:883 (5,6,7) - overmap
00:21:431 (5,6,7) - ^
hard里不应该有任何overmap

[Insane]
00:16:206 (2,3,4) - flow有点太直了
00:57:431 (6,1,2) - 这三个的flow你应该好好想想，现在这样感觉不太对

水个摸
Pata-Mon
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Pata-Mon

Lily Bread wrote:

[Normal]
01:00:722 (1,2,3) - 按习惯来说这三个一般是跟前三个错开一点会比较好 唔，我比较喜欢叠，先不改了
挺好的

[Insane]
00:16:206 (2,3,4) - flow有点太直了 其实本来没想整个图基本都锐角然后特别送……嘛算了，改吧，送送送
00:57:431 (6,1,2) - 这三个的flow你应该好好想想，现在这样感觉不太对 把56换成滑条然后连着后面整个改了一下

水个摸
谢摸~
Shad0w1and
1,588 posts
Joined April 2011
Shad0w1and
I
01:26:657 (8,1,2) - 01:26:657 (8) - 这两个音必须分开
01:23:173 (1) - 确认下这两个鼓是不是故意的，如果是为什么01:26:270 (5,7) - 是红线上第二个鼓
音效改成01:23:270 - 空 01:23:367 - 鼓 01:26:657 - 哨 01:26:851 - 空 01:27:044 - 鼓 01:27:238 - 鼓 01:27:431 - 哨 01:27:431 - 哨 01:27:818 (1,2,3,4) - 鼓鼓哨鼓
tt
00:22:786 (3,4,1) - 间距误导性太大了，靠近一点点好些
00:47:947 (3) - 包好
01:22:399 (1,2,3,4) - 开stack微调一下尽量别overlap

低难度扫了一眼不摸了，记得复制音效
Pata-Mon
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Pata-Mon

Shad0w1and wrote:

I
01:26:657 (8,1,2) - 01:26:657 (8) - 这两个音必须分开 好
01:23:173 (1) - 确认下这两个鼓是不是故意的，如果是为什么01:26:270 (5,7) - 是红线上第二个鼓 是故意的；前后都没错，我是参考原曲中的音效加的，原曲不一致我就也不一致
音效改成01:23:270 - 空 01:23:367 - 鼓 01:26:657 - 哨 01:26:851 - 空 01:27:044 - 鼓 01:27:238 - 鼓 01:27:431 - 哨 01:27:431 - 哨 01:27:818 (1,2,3,4) - 鼓鼓哨鼓 同上，还是按照原曲加的
谢摸~
TtmnZk
Elite Mapper
597 posts
Joined March 2013
TtmnZk

Lily Bread wrote:

[117]

[Tt's Hard]
00:11:173 (1,2,3,4) - 和- 00:05:560 (2,3,4,5) - 不一样， - 00:11:173 (1,2,3,4) -都只有鼓点，所以 - 00:11:464 - 也应该有个圈。如果觉得这样塞太满那 - 00:11:851 (3,4) - 也应该要删掉
00:19:883 (5,6,7) - overmap
00:21:431 (5,6,7) - ^
hard里不应该有任何overmap


哪里有overmap？？？？？？19 883那里那么明显的三味线我还特地加多了点音效衬托了一下.......
@pata-mon 其他的我稍后回
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho
[General]
  1. Tt's Hard沒加視頻

[117's Easy]
  1. 00:15:818 (1) - DS 0.97x了，稍微往下面放一點點
  2. 00:29:754 (1) - 01:06:141 (2) - ^

[Normal]
  1. 00:30:722 (4) - DS 1.33x了，往下面放一點
  2. 01:27:044 (1) - ^

[Tt's Hard]
  1. OD+1，HP-1
  2. 沒加視頻
  3. 00:13:496 (2,3) - 包好點
  4. 00:15:044 (3,4) - 統一樣式比較好
  5. 00:39:044 (1,4) - 不要碰到（強迫症
  6. 00:41:754 (5,1) - 看縮圈包

[SHEE!]
  1. 這個BPM不如用AR8.5-8.6，比較容易DT
  2. 00:30:528 (3,5) - 沒疊好
  3. 00:55:689 (4,2) - 在我看來2不如疊在4上面
  4. 01:00:915 (2,5) - 沒疊好
  5. 01:10:399 (2,3,4) - 這個排列flow不太好，滑條試試這樣放
    SPOILER
  6. 01:11:367 (5) - 另外小心這個和前面滑條碰一起了


    做得挺好的但是看到那些五連我就覺得沒法DT了 :(
Pata-Mon
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Pata-Mon

Kencho wrote:

[General]
  1. Tt's Hard沒加視頻 WTF AImod竟然连这个都不查……

[Normal]
  1. 00:30:722 (4) - DS 1.33x了，往下面放一點
  2. 01:27:044 (1) - ^ All fixed

[SHEE!]
  1. 這個BPM不如用AR8.5-8.6，比較容易DT 这个最后再考虑一下……
  2. 00:30:528 (3,5) - 沒疊好 √
  3. 00:55:689 (4,2) - 在我看來2不如疊在4上面 我叠到尾巴上了……才发现这里竟然也没叠好
  4. 01:00:915 (2,5) - 沒疊好 √
  5. 01:10:399 (2,3,4) - 這個排列flow不太好，滑條試試這樣放 好
    SPOILER
  6. 01:11:367 (5) - 另外小心這個和前面滑條碰一起了


    做得挺好的但是看到那些五連我就覺得沒法DT了 :( [/color]
谢摸~
TtmnZk
Elite Mapper
597 posts
Joined March 2013
TtmnZk
@lily bread 前面你说的那地方都是跟鼓，仔细听是跟了的，不一样其实我没觉得这两个地方有一样的......

@kencho all fix

@虾斗 改了

@Misure 第二条其实并没有出界，出界以test和play时为准
3，4，5都感觉没必要把，留着了

@Siiilver fixed unless third suggestion.it's ok for hard diff

Tt
Sharlo
667 posts
Joined May 2012
Sharlo

  • Normal

  1. 00:59:173 (1,2,3) - 感觉这里有点难 比较危险
  2. 01:00:722 (1,2,3) - ^
  3. 01:27:044 (1,2) - flow不是很好 建议把2和3往右边放

  • Tt's Hard

  1. 00:22:593 (2,3) - 没包好
  2. 00:36:528 (3,4) - flow不太好 感觉3其实没必要强行blanket
  3. 00:46:012 (4,5) - 太近了
  4. 01:28:399 (6) - 420,104

    顺便有空的话明镜止水改一下摸（。

  • SHEE!

  1. 00:02:657 (4) - Ctrl+G阿
  2. 00:08:851 (4) - ^ 现在这样感觉有点不顺手
  3. 00:17:754 (2,3) - 也是flow问题 2可以Ctrl+G 感觉太近的话可以往下挪一挪
  4. 00:27:044 (2) - 这里如果想跟nyan声可以尝试改变一下滑条的速度来突出 顺便改成跟00:28:593 (2) - 一样的形状给人感觉比较统一
  5. 00:28:593 (2) - ^
  6. 00:52:012 (3,1) - 这个跳有点突然 读不太出来 尾巴往左挪一点点
  7. 00:59:367 (2,3) - 这两个可以Ctrl+G 因为00:58:786 (3,4,1) - 这三个是从左往右的方向
  8. 01:06:915 (1) - Ctrl+G

    感觉整体flow上面连贯性不太好orz
为什么BG一个妹子也没有阿。差评
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Topic Starter
Pata-Mon
@TT Mouse

00:25:109 (1,2) - 这种ds像是00:25:109 (1) - 只折返一次，不改节奏的话，建议使用和00:25:496 (2,3) - 一样的ds。

01:11:173 (4) - 据我所知确实出界了。可以看到，鼠标点到中间锚点的时候，右上的左边已经显示“-7,135”了，-7显然是出界的

去问了问人
热瓜子：“不算出界，但很不推荐这么摆”，“而且负的坐标也有可能会被挑”
YF：“以前有个测试题的，这个算出界unrankable”
最好还是改了吧



@117 and @TT

已经预定的的好像还差一个09的摸，等09摸完你们再改一次，然后如果没人跟我m4m大概就该找BN了
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