Reol - Netoge Haijin Sprechchor · forum

A r M i N

1,298 posts

Joined October 2014

A r M i N 2016-06-11T14:18:37+00:00

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Last edited by A r M i N 2016-06-20T18:21:11+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-06-12T16:23:47+00:00

A r M i N wrote:
I am pretty sure that thats my cut MP3 ? Why didnt you ask me, it would be nice if you could link my mapset thanks

On the contrary, Kyshiro cut this MP3 for me so if someone took it from someone it was the other way around.
Why would I link your mapset?

A r M i N

1,298 posts

Joined October 2014

A r M i N 2016-06-13T13:59:12+00:00

WORSTPOLACKEU wrote:
A r M i N wrote:
I am pretty sure that thats my cut MP3 ? Why didnt you ask me, it would be nice if you could link my mapset thanks
On the contrary, Kyshiro cut this MP3 for me so if someone took it from someone it was the other way around.
Why would I link your mapset?

Alright then I was thinking that cause our 2 mp3s had the exact same lengh 1:58:125
i am sorry my fault

Sakary

867 posts

Joined July 2013

Sakary 2016-07-15T23:58:56+00:00

Done

Will find modders

Rain

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Creator:WORSTPOLACKEU
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Tags:Kyshiro Bearzim Natsu Utaite Vocaloid Gaming
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448,168,104624,2,0,L|336:184,1,103.199996850586,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,256,104967,1,8,0:0:0:0:
136,248,105052,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,216,105138,2,0,L|61:167,2,51.599998425293,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,280,105481,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,368,105652,6,0,P|168:320|280:360,1,301
240,368,106338,1,8,0:0:0:0:
368,208,106509,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,200,106595,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,106681,1,8,0:0:0:0:
176,168,106852,1,2,0:0:0:0:
504,144,107024,1,6,0:0:0:0:

RikiH_

1,149 posts

Joined February 2011

RikiH_ 2016-07-19T16:06:53+00:00

m4m da yo

Gaymer

00:10:681 (8) - Make this 1/4 longer in order to follow the vocals?
00:35:538 - Weird pause, maybe add a note here?
00:37:595 (3) - The pattern looks irregular, maybe move this note around 407|235, or even 419|235 so it's stucked under the following stuff
01:07:252 (1) - Move 3/4 pixels down to avoid super ultra nazi overlap?
01:17:881 (1) - I think a 1/2 slider is more appropriate here, since there's no sound on that repeat
01:28:509 (5,6,7) - This should have 1.4x spacing for consistency
01:47:204 (2) - Finish plx

Keada's Another

00:28:852 (3,5) - These look a bit ugly, maybe curve the second one a bit in order to make a sort of blanket?
01:02:624 (5) - Move around 20|250?
01:07:595 (2,5) - Stack these?

Kyshiro's Extra

00:26:967 (7) - ctrl+g?

Other diffs look good, there's nothing really important to point out lol

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-08-02T00:35:28+00:00

RikiH_ wrote:
m4m da yo

Gaymer

00:10:681 (8) - Make this 1/4 longer in order to follow the vocals? nah
00:35:538 - Weird pause, maybe add a note here?yes
00:37:595 (3) - The pattern looks irregular, maybe move this note around 407|235, or even 419|235 so it's stucked under the following stuff I like this pattern, it fits it is just not aesthetically regular but it's alright
01:07:252 (1) - Move 3/4 pixels down to avoid super ultra nazi overlap? I like that overlap
01:17:881 (1) - I think a 1/2 slider is more appropriate here, since there's no sound on that repeat yes
01:28:509 (5,6,7) - This should have 1.4x spacing for consistency yes
01:47:204 (2) - Finish plx
Nah I wanna finish here

Keada's Another

00:28:852 (3,5) - These look a bit ugly, maybe curve the second one a bit in order to make a sort of blanket?
01:02:624 (5) - Move around 20|250?
01:07:595 (2,5) - Stack these?
Kyshiro's Extra

00:26:967 (7) - ctrl+g?
Other diffs look good, there's nothing really important to point out lol

CXu

osu! Alumni

3,558 posts

Joined March 2009

CXu 2016-08-30T09:17:23+00:00

Hi I'm here for my free kds.

SPOILER

11.02 CXu: hmm
11.02 WORSTPOLACKEU: lots of ppl say the last stream sucks
11.02 CXu: maybe, I think they fit well tbh
11.02 WORSTPOLACKEU: probably does lol
11.03 CXu: it's not a very intense part of the song anyway
11.03 CXu: 01:17:710 (2) - also nc?
11.03 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah I think so too but it feels like the cursor movement isn't there
11.03 WORSTPOLACKEU: the speed on sliders is there
11.03 CXu: because slowassslider
11.03 WORSTPOLACKEU: o yes
11.03 WORSTPOLACKEU: like
11.03 WORSTPOLACKEU: in edit
11.03 WORSTPOLACKEU: they look much faster than in game
11.04 CXu: you could try placing notes in the direction of the sliders instead of opposite like 01:17:881 (3,4) -
11.04 CXu: this way you have to follow the whole slider into the next so they'll feel faster than reversing
11.04 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:06:738 (1,2) -
11.04 WORSTPOLACKEU: ye this doesn't feel fast
11.04 WORSTPOLACKEU: in game
11.05 WORSTPOLACKEU: somehow
11.05 WORSTPOLACKEU: bah
11.05 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's fine
11.05 CXu: well
11.05 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's not a 6 star diff anyway
11.05 CXu: http://i.imgur.com/lfPtPxv.png
11.05 CXu: slider to slider jumps arent as difficult since leniency
11.05 CXu: so you can do stuff like that
11.05 WORSTPOLACKEU: shit that is so far away
11.05 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah
11.05 WORSTPOLACKEU: but still so big spacing lol
11.06 CXu: well yeah you dont have to go THAT big
11.06 CXu: but yeah xd
11.06 WORSTPOLACKEU: I have another idea
11.06 CXu: 01:17:881 (3,4) - but yeah also this is a bit awkward to play I think
11.06 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah that should def be changed
11.07 WORSTPOLACKEU: what about this
11.07 WORSTPOLACKEU: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5973800
11.07 WORSTPOLACKEU: this sohuld flow cooler and u have to follow this slider also
11.07 WORSTPOLACKEU: cause the circle is too big to not follow
11.07 CXu: yeah that probably works
11.07 CXu: btw
11.07 CXu: 01:11:367 (1) - the slider is cool
11.07 WORSTPOLACKEU: ye
11.08 CXu: but it kinda sucks that you map vocals over drums here xd
11.08 WORSTPOLACKEU: my idea was to
11.08 WORSTPOLACKEU: in songs u have like
11.08 WORSTPOLACKEU: 1234 -1234 -1234 -1234
11.08 WORSTPOLACKEU: the 4th one is different
11.08 WORSTPOLACKEU: so I did like that in both parts of those sliders
11.09 CXu: well yeah I guess
11.09 CXu: oh also
11.09 CXu: maybe it's just me
11.09 WORSTPOLACKEU: maybe

11.09 CXu: 00:15:824 (3) - doesnt this work better? http://i.imgur.com/fbBbQdH.png
11.10 CXu: since 00:15:138 (1,4,5) - all of these land on that clap sound
11.10 WORSTPOLACKEU: I know
11.10 WORSTPOLACKEU: that's when u have to stop moving cursor
11.11 WORSTPOLACKEU: and you start moving when they stop
11.11 WORSTPOLACKEU:

11.11 WORSTPOLACKEU: that was the idea hah
11.11 WORSTPOLACKEU: oh wait
11.11 CXu: I removed a repeat from that slider xd
11.11 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:15:824 (3) -
11.11 WORSTPOLACKEU: to stop here
11.11 CXu: I mean you can still stop at (3)
11.12 CXu: I just find the rhythm more intuitive if you have to actually hit the clap sound
11.12 CXu: rather than holding it on a repeat
11.12 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
11.12 WORSTPOLACKEU: actually
11.12 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah now that I tried
11.12 WORSTPOLACKEU: I have to CP that everywhere now
11.12 WORSTPOLACKEU: XD
11.12 CXu: all of the sections you use that feel a bit off to play for me
11.12 CXu: so yeah xd
11.14 WORSTPOLACKEU: I jkust don't know how to position
11.14 WORSTPOLACKEU: I'll do that later
11.14 WORSTPOLACKEU: yo post this in thread
11.14 WORSTPOLACKEU: so I don't forget this is actually valuable stuff
11.14 CXu: xd
11.15 CXu: oh also the last stream is fine tbh

Akali

639 posts

Joined November 2012

Akali 2016-08-31T10:12:43+00:00

m4m (modback on one of the marathons pls)

General

http://puu.sh/qUS5d.png check tags, Gaymer has bearzim not bearizm in tags

AI MOD - conflicts with preview times

I would swap combo 2 and combo 3 colours for slightly better contrast

opinionz

Gaymer

00:05:195 - clap on this timing is kinda strong, would rather have 1/2 slider starting here, also 00:05:452 - has a tom, I think if you rearranged the pattern to go like http://puu.sh/qUSwe.jpg (with a from slider end to (8) maybe?) would be better. Altarnatively make 00:05:367 (7) - 1/4 slider like 00:04:852 (5) - (same thing)

00:05:538 (1) - I think this warrants 3/4 slider cause of clap and piano note on the end, however keeping it simple and smooth here is fine too

00:08:109 (6) - this note isn't important enough at all to warrant an overlap , it's just a hihat. I feel 00:07:938 (5) - should be a slider anyway

00:13:424 (6,7) - same thing, + slider allows better transiotion to stream that starts in the very corner

00:16:081 (5,6) - space this out, some movement after slider is more fun and feels better. Doesn't look that good either

00:16:424 - missing note kinda have to map it as it's part of the drumroll

00:20:281 (6,7) - would change this to a slider and 00:20:795 (2) - to 2 notes because of piano chords and kicks

00:21:652 (6,7) - slider is better (7) is weak + better setup for jump pattern coming next

00:26:796 (7) - repeat doesn't go well with this drumroll, think of something that will have clickable 00:26:881 - because of the snare. Arguably shifting pressure from clicking a rhyth into uncommon midstream return arrow is fine but ehhhhh

00:31:595 (1,2) - previous 1/4 slider jumps were made for a reason (hi hats usually) there is nothing on ends of these.

00:49:681 (3) - overmapped

00:55:081 (1) - rotate -105 kinda weird entrance into this with slider wiggle waggles not being map's theme

01:00:052 (4,1,2,3,4) - switch to drumroll and map the rhythm better, underrepresented. 01:00:052 (4) - 2 notes 01:00:395 (1) - could be a note, slider is still fine 01:00:567 (2) - 2 notes 01:00:909 (4) - 2 notes? 01:01:167 (2) - slider? makes rhythm a bit more complex but goes with the song better

01:01:595 (6,7,8) - stack, not impactful enough for being spaced out

01:02:624 - map this note

01:05:881 (1,2,3,1,1) - super cool, just maybe 01:06:909 (2) - slightly too fast? it's a hold realistically but feels weird, could be a bit smaller

01:10:681 (1,2,1,2) - is fineee but drums usually better. If you don't change this at least make a triple with 01:11:967 - and 01:11:881 (2) -

01:17:881 (2,3) - overmapped for sure this time, syllable K 01:17:881 (2) - starts here 01:18:052 (3) - doesn't have anything

01:18:224 (4) - samee, super fast for nothing

01:22:681 - could use sped up 1/4 on this though, if you make the 1/1 slider 3/4

01:28:767 - missing note

01:34:081 - like before clickable snare would be cool

01:45:652 (1) - sightread fc killer kinda lol, but it's fine can't be mad at those

01:46:852 (2) - ~188-80 maybe? it's ending and stuff but it's super dry digitally sampled drumroll, overspaced imo

Kaeda's Another

Diffname pls it's not BMS/IIDX

00:05:452 - could map and stack it on next slider, would require moving it cause it's kinda far

00:16:167 (7) - drums maybe, slider doesn't fit much

01:13:081 (2) - this dingus under the 01:12:738 (1) - doesn't look very nice during gameplay, taking into account the overall cleaninliness of the map

01:40:509 (3,4,5,6) - would use normal curve this stands out and looks weird

01:43:938 (13) - could change to repeat 1/4 or 2 slider jumps

Kyshiro's Extra

00:05:024 (6) - kinda same thing as on Gamer, but it's lighter extra + you ignore some downbeats and snares/claps sort of consistently so it's fine I guess

00:05:452 - no one maps this qq

collab insane

00:26:281 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - if you map parts like this, then don't see the point in ignoring rhythms here 00:15:138 (1,1,2) - variety I guess but eh, weak reason

01:00:395 (1,1) -

collab light insane

00:07:595 (4,5,6,7) - stack forced compared to patterns on higher diffs

00:11:709 (3) - add one repeat ctrl+G

00:30:738 (1,1) - remove nc?

rest seems good, fun set

Last edited by Akali 2016-08-31T10:52:59+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-08-31T10:51:48+00:00

I'll answer this today no time atm, thanks for mod Akali!
00:15:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this was accidentally uploaded haha, I have to rearrange this pattern again, it's supposed to be as the others in similiar sections.

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-08-31T18:59:03+00:00

Akali wrote:
m4m (modback on one of the marathons pls)

General

http://puu.sh/qUS5d.png check tags, Gaymer has bearzim not bearizm in tags

AI MOD - conflicts with preview times

I would swap combo 2 and combo 3 colours for slightly better contrast

opinionz

Gaymer

00:05:195 - clap on this timing is kinda strong, would rather have 1/2 slider starting here, also 00:05:452 - has a tom, I think if you rearranged the pattern to go like http://puu.sh/qUSwe.jpg (with a from slider end to (8) maybe?) would be better. Altarnatively make 00:05:367 (7) - 1/4 slider like 00:04:852 (5) - (same thing) I'd rather have what I have right now, but it's a valid suggestion! I want to keep that repeat.

00:05:538 (1) - I think this warrants 3/4 slider cause of clap and piano note on the end, however keeping it simple and smooth here is fine too Changed, I like it!

00:08:109 (6) - this note isn't important enough at all to warrant an overlap , it's just a hihat. I feel 00:07:938 (5) - should be a slider anyway I removed the overlapping notes completely because the piano is short so I don't need a note on hithats, the pause is consistent with the piano and is there in both sections as a prep for next pattern.

00:13:424 (6,7) - same thing, + slider allows better transiotion to stream that starts in the very corner Same

00:16:081 (5,6) - space this out, some movement after slider is more fun and feels better. Doesn't look that good eitherFixed other stuff here so it should be much better now, accidental upload before with random placed notes.

00:16:424 - missing note kinda have to map it as it's part of the drumroll Fixed

00:20:281 (6,7) - would change this to a slider and 00:20:795 (2) - to 2 notes because of piano chords and kicks I don't see this working in my head as I want it to, sorry! I like the current one!

00:21:652 (6,7) - slider is better (7) is weak + better setup for jump pattern coming nextI see no way to make it work with other patterns so I will keep the circle!

00:26:796 (7) - repeat doesn't go well with this drumroll, think of something that will have clickable 00:26:881 - because of the snare. Arguably shifting pressure from clicking a rhyth into uncommon midstream return arrow is fine but ehhhhh Fixed section, better now!

00:31:595 (1,2) - previous 1/4 slider jumps were made for a reason (hi hats usually) there is nothing on ends of these. It fits the re-be lyrics on respective sliders also plays well imo, I'd like to get more opinions first as I really like this pattern..

00:49:681 (3) - overmapped Meh it plays better with the triple than single taps right there so I'd like to keep it, non-harmful overmap.

00:55:081 (1) - rotate -105 kinda weird entrance into this with slider wiggle waggles not being map's theme Just made a different slider, old good circle, much easier and flows better!

01:00:052 (4,1,2,3,4) - switch to drumroll and map the rhythm better, underrepresented. 01:00:052 (4) - 2 notes 01:00:395 (1) - could be a note, slider is still fine 01:00:567 (2) - 2 notes 01:00:909 (4) - 2 notes? 01:01:167 (2) - slider? makes rhythm a bit more complex but goes with the song better True, did something different but works as I wanted!

01:01:595 (6,7,8) - stack, not impactful enough for being spaced out

01:02:624 - map this noteDid something

01:05:881 (1,2,3,1,1) - super cool, just maybe 01:06:909 (2) - slightly too fast? it's a hold realistically but feels weird, could be a bit smaller I want it that fast so people actually have to make the circle movement atleast a bit not just barely move the cursor on it.

01:10:681 (1,2,1,2) - is fineee but drums usually better. If you don't change this at least make a triple with 01:11:967 - and 01:11:881 (2) - I keep it the way it is I like the 3 slider with overlap into drum there!

01:17:881 (2,3) - overmapped for sure this time, syllable K 01:17:881 (2) - starts here 01:18:052 (3) - doesn't have anythingRemapped it's better and fits now

01:18:224 (4) - samee, super fast for nothing Same as above

01:22:681 - could use sped up 1/4 on this though, if you make the 1/1 slider 3/4 Shit your idea i9s cool how did I not come up with that, I changed accordingly!

01:28:767 - missing note fix

01:34:081 - like before clickable snare would be cool something made

01:45:652 (1) - sightread fc killer kinda lol, but it's fine can't be mad at thosexD

01:46:852 (2) - ~188-80 maybe? it's ending and stuff but it's super dry digitally sampled drumroll, overspaced imoNah I love that overspaced ending, Fits so good!!!

rest seems good, fun set

Will answer other diffs later on!!! THANKS FOR MOD Akali

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-08-31T21:01:32+00:00

Also
Insane collab, denied the changes, the variety is because we map those parts in chorus only.
Light Insane fixed the repeat thing, I like it!
Removed NC also, stack stays!

-kevincela-

Elite Mapper

2,790 posts

Joined February 2010

-kevincela- 2016-09-01T14:34:55+00:00

yoyo

[General]

Preview points seem to be conflicting between the various diffs, make sure they are the same throughout the whole mapset!
Kaeda's Insane has also some unsnapped objects and two inherited sections at the same time (00:38:452 - ), make sure to see the AiMod for it!

[WORSTKyshiroEU's Light Insane]

00:04:166 (1) - I'd replace this with a 3/4 slider and a note after it, it should be easy to play and it works better since there's no 1/2 sound at 00:04:338 - !
00:09:824 (5) - A New Combo can work good here based on your NC choices, it also fits with the jump pattern
00:19:081 - I'd definitely add a note here, maybe at the same position of 00:17:881 (1) - 's start, since as of now the patterns end on a kinda awkward spot :v
01:03:652 (1) - This New Combo feels a bit strange here alone, I'd rather move it at 01:03:138 (5) - so that it marks the beginning of the jumps there!
01:16:852 - It's quite strange that here you stop using the NC spam... You should use it here as well or just delete it from the other patterns!
01:44:452 (2) - Kinda the same point of the Insane diff, although at least it works better with 01:44:967 (3,4,5) - so it's less noticeable.

[WORSTKyshiroEU's Insane]

00:13:424 (3) - This is more of a personal thing than anything but I think a 3/4 slow slider (0.75x sv) here could work really well to drop into the following stream. This is an example on how you could arrange it: click
00:22:338 (2,3) - This jump is quite big, it doesen't really fit well considering all the patterns you've been using up to now, even with the slider leniency... I'd definitely reduce the spacing here, maybe by using something similar to this (00:22:338 (2) - in this case is simply 00:21:995 (1) - but flipped accordingly)
00:37:081 (1) - As I stated in the Gamer diff, this should be 1/2
00:38:452 (6) - I'd highly recommend to use a New Combo here to mark the sv change and also since it fits quite well with the singer changing tone in the downbeat
00:52:338 (1) - According to the singer a New Combo can also be used here, it fits quite well and it prevents you from using a long combo chain
01:00:738 (2) - On the other side I don't think there's really the need for a New Combo here instead.
01:23:024 (3) - According to how you've handled New Combos here should be one here as well
01:44:452 (2) - I don't know, I don't really like how you've used this 1/1 slider here ignoring the strong beat at 01:44:452 (2) - while mapping to it with 01:44:967 (3,4,5) - ... I'd personally make this also a 1/2 pattern, maybe you could use two 1/2 sliders 01:44:281 - which lead to 01:44:967 (3,4,5) - , that could work pretty well!
01:46:509 (2) - You could make a triplet here stacked with 01:45:652 (1) - and make a jump with 01:46:681 (4,1) - , I think it'd fit the song quite better at this point, especially if you do something like this!

[Gamer]

It's not a big deal, however i think sliders like 00:07:766 (4) - and 00:13:252 (5) - could be replaced ny 1/4 notes instead since of the 1/4 kicks appearing there. 00:12:567 (2,3) - is totally fine since the clicks match the piano sounds, however a change in pattern in those points could underline these kicks better
The same thing could be done with 00:25:081 (5,6,7,8) - or 00:36:396 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , though this is mostly your call!
00:37:081 (1) - This should be a 1/2 sound, there seems to be no 1/4 sound that justifies the repeated slider here
00:39:481 (5) - A New Combo would fit wery well here with the spaced pattern, I think you should try it out
00:50:195 (8) - This felt a bit strange as a place to use a 1/4 slider, since instead of highlighting the "clap" (idk how to call that sound properly lol) here it kinda puts it in second place, while giving more priority to the kick. This feels strange especially if compared to your other rhythms usage (for example 01:01:166 (4,6) - ), so I think you should make this as a simple 5 elements stream, like this:

If you want you can also make 00:50:538 (11) - a 1/4 slider after the other one
01:03:481 (3) - I'd move this upwards, since I expected a motion going in that direction after the downwards motion of 01:02:967 (3,1) - . Maybe you could place it at x:236 y:200, to make an example!
01:12:737 (5) - This could use a New Combo to highlight its isolation from the rest of the stream and also the piano chord, especially since you've done something similar with 01:18:224 (1) - !
01:23:195 (2) - Instead of using a simple note you could reuse 01:22:681 (2) - and copy paste it here, it plays really cool and its circular flow is continued very well by the following stream
01:25:595 (3) - I'd reduce this slider by 1/4 and add a note on 01:25:938 - instead, considering how consistent your triplets have been it's a bit strange to see you suddenly use a hold while there's nothing like that on the rest of the map. It should still be quite easy to maintain its circular pattern by doing something like this!
01:44:281 (5) - same as 00:37:081 (1) -

That's all for me at the moment, may mod other diffs if I have the time to do so. I hope I was of any help and good luck!

Aerene

199 posts

Joined August 2014

Aerene 2016-09-02T12:38:24+00:00

FIRST MOD

Hello's Rain

00:06:738 (1,2,3,4,5) - I suggest making this a C shape stream???
00:15:824 (5) - a bit too far, move to x:152
00:15:824 (5) - too far also, move to x:272

Sakary

867 posts

Joined July 2013

Sakary 2016-09-04T12:54:15+00:00

-Nicotine wrote:
FIRST MOD

Hello's Rain
00:06:738 (1,2,3,4,5) - I suggest making this a C shape stream??? it is.
00:15:824 (5) - a bit too far, move to x:152 okay
00:15:824 (5) - too far also, move to x:272

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

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Aerene

199 posts

Joined August 2014

Aerene 2016-09-04T14:40:01+00:00

Hi_Hello wrote:
-Nicotine wrote:
FIRST MOD

Hello's Rain
00:06:738 (1,2,3,4,5) - I suggest making this a C shape stream??? it is.
00:15:824 (5) - a bit too far, move to x:152 okay
00:15:824 (5) - too far also, move to x:272

about the c Shape stream, I meant to say that to make it kinda like this

anyways ill continue to mod ur map c:

didnt notice the 3rd one sorry

Sakary

867 posts

Joined July 2013

Sakary 2016-09-05T08:01:19+00:00

okay then... sorry misunderstood you

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-10-18T17:45:13+00:00

-kevincela- wrote:
yoyo

[General]

Preview points seem to be conflicting between the various diffs, make sure they are the same throughout the whole mapset!
Kaeda's Insane has also some unsnapped objects and two inherited sections at the same time (00:38:452 - ), make sure to see the AiMod for it!
[WORSTKyshiroEU's Light Insane]

00:04:166 (1) - I'd replace this with a 3/4 slider and a note after it, it should be easy to play and it works better since there's no 1/2 sound at 00:04:338 - !
00:09:824 (5) - A New Combo can work good here based on your NC choices, it also fits with the jump pattern
00:19:081 - I'd definitely add a note here, maybe at the same position of 00:17:881 (1) - 's start, since as of now the patterns end on a kinda awkward spot :v
01:03:652 (1) - This New Combo feels a bit strange here alone, I'd rather move it at 01:03:138 (5) - so that it marks the beginning of the jumps there!
01:16:852 - It's quite strange that here you stop using the NC spam... You should use it here as well or just delete it from the other patterns!
01:44:452 (2) - Kinda the same point of the Insane diff, although at least it works better with 01:44:967 (3,4,5) - so it's less noticeable.
[WORSTKyshiroEU's Insane]

00:13:424 (3) - This is more of a personal thing than anything but I think a 3/4 slow slider (0.75x sv) here could work really well to drop into the following stream. This is an example on how you could arrange it: click
00:22:338 (2,3) - This jump is quite big, it doesen't really fit well considering all the patterns you've been using up to now, even with the slider leniency... I'd definitely reduce the spacing here, maybe by using something similar to this (00:22:338 (2) - in this case is simply 00:21:995 (1) - but flipped accordingly)
00:37:081 (1) - As I stated in the Gamer diff, this should be 1/2
00:38:452 (6) - I'd highly recommend to use a New Combo here to mark the sv change and also since it fits quite well with the singer changing tone in the downbeat
00:52:338 (1) - According to the singer a New Combo can also be used here, it fits quite well and it prevents you from using a long combo chain
01:00:738 (2) - On the other side I don't think there's really the need for a New Combo here instead.
01:23:024 (3) - According to how you've handled New Combos here should be one here as well
01:44:452 (2) - I don't know, I don't really like how you've used this 1/1 slider here ignoring the strong beat at 01:44:452 (2) - while mapping to it with 01:44:967 (3,4,5) - ... I'd personally make this also a 1/2 pattern, maybe you could use two 1/2 sliders 01:44:281 - which lead to 01:44:967 (3,4,5) - , that could work pretty well!
01:46:509 (2) - You could make a triplet here stacked with 01:45:652 (1) - and make a jump with 01:46:681 (4,1) - , I think it'd fit the song quite better at this point, especially if you do something like this!
[Gamer]

It's not a big deal, however i think sliders like 00:07:766 (4) - and 00:13:252 (5) - could be replaced ny 1/4 notes instead since of the 1/4 kicks appearing there. 00:12:567 (2,3) - is totally fine since the clicks match the piano sounds, however a change in pattern in those points could underline these kicks better
The same thing could be done with 00:25:081 (5,6,7,8) - or 00:36:396 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , though this is mostly your call!
00:37:081 (1) - This should be a 1/2 sound, there seems to be no 1/4 sound that justifies the repeated slider here
00:39:481 (5) - A New Combo would fit wery well here with the spaced pattern, I think you should try it out
00:50:195 (8) - This felt a bit strange as a place to use a 1/4 slider, since instead of highlighting the "clap" (idk how to call that sound properly lol) here it kinda puts it in second place, while giving more priority to the kick. This feels strange especially if compared to your other rhythms usage (for example 01:01:166 (4,6) - ), so I think you should make this as a simple 5 elements stream, like this:

If you want you can also make 00:50:538 (11) - a 1/4 slider after the other one
01:03:481 (3) - I'd move this upwards, since I expected a motion going in that direction after the downwards motion of 01:02:967 (3,1) - . Maybe you could place it at x:236 y:200, to make an example!
01:12:737 (5) - This could use a New Combo to highlight its isolation from the rest of the stream and also the piano chord, especially since you've done something similar with 01:18:224 (1) - !
01:23:195 (2) - Instead of using a simple note you could reuse 01:22:681 (2) - and copy paste it here, it plays really cool and its circular flow is continued very well by the following stream
01:25:595 (3) - I'd reduce this slider by 1/4 and add a note on 01:25:938 - instead, considering how consistent your triplets have been it's a bit strange to see you suddenly use a hold while there's nothing like that on the rest of the map. It should still be quite easy to maintain its circular pattern by doing something like this!
01:44:281 (5) - same as 00:37:081 (1) -
That's all for me at the moment, may mod other diffs if I have the time to do so. I hope I was of any help and good luck!

I fixed a lot from your mod, thanks for helping me out Kevin!
All diffs updated, I don't remember what I fixed because text got lost but a lot ..

Kaifin

745 posts

Joined April 2013

Kaifin 2016-10-21T00:37:22+00:00

helo

set a preview point for the diffs that are missing it @polack

natsu

01:37:938 (2,5) - your parallel is very very very slightly off, like by only a couple pixels

supa solid

bearizm

00:20:624 (1,2,3) - this is the only pattern of its kind in the whole map, do you think the overlap might be a little eh for hard player? especially since its Normal ---> Hard + its a lighter hard, when the sameish sound occurs later in the chorus you do a much clearer pattern 00:31:595 (1,2,3)
00:58:167 (1) - remove NC
00:59:024 (3) - add NC (these two are connected, for consistency throughout the section)
01:22:338 (4) - i think there should be NC here as well, this one is more subjective than the last two though so your call

NC mod for good hard diff, sick grid action

light insane

00:05:195 - have you considered making this clickable? i understand some of the other instances such as 00:11:709 (3) + 00:12:052 where the end of the quint isn't as pronounced, but here in the intro its very very clearly ringing out as the strongest note
00:07:081 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - i understand the intent and theory behind this pattern, but for light insane player there's no way they're going to be able to read this without retry, at the very least NC 00:07:595 (4) for readability, but if you want a suggestion of how to change the pattern, perhaps this would be a bit better? the slight overlap of 234 and 00:06:738 (1) might be too messy for your taste so feel free to mess around with it
SPOILER
00:16:509 (1,2) -
SPOILER
00:20:967 (2,3,4,5,6) - line is off :p
00:29:367 (3,1) - properly stack and adjust 00:30:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6) to compensate?
00:35:195 (3,1) - this really needs to be spaced farther, very very easily read as 1/2 at its current spacing, maybe you could turn 00:35:195 (3) - into a clickable triplet since its clickable at 00:24:224 (4,5,6) - and stack it on top of 00:35:709 (1)
01:00:909 (5,6,7,8,9) - no cute gimmick 00:15:652 (1,2,3,4,5) - for consistency?? you map this sound like this in all of its other instances it would be kyaaaaa uguuuuu des if you kept it going, using the normal quint instead fits the music a lot less
01:06:738 (1,1,1) - ok so this could be super cute but its not for two reasons, one the triangle itself isn't EVEN, and two it doesn't fit into the rest of the pattern at all, its so clustered you need to give the triple a bit more space from 01:06:052 (1), perhaps move it up a bit and make it on the grid with 01:06:052 (1,1)? hopefully you understand what i mean
01:23:709 (1,3) - this 1 curve is not good for blanket or aesthetic
SPOILER
01:45:652 (1) - this might be more personal, but i just find this really not nice looking if i'm honest LOL no flame, both bends are super icky looking to me, perhaps try and clean up the shaping a little bit?

this diff has a lot of really inconsistent rhythms unless theres some kind of overall patterning that i'm missing, try to comb through the map for rhythm inconsistency, especially between the two kiai times and assess why some sounds are clickable during the second kiai that aren't during the first

insane

00:04:166 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - these two lines are at the same time not the same angle, and uneven as lines on their own, arranged in a way where its implied they'd be the same angle
00:25:767 (1) - if you're not NCing during 00:24:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - (which is fine), then remove NC on this because its the same length and it's kind of jarringly inconsistent to see large not NC'd streams, then have every buzz slider be NC'd
00:36:137 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is really cool
00:39:138 (1) - i'll end up saying this in last diff as well, but you get more emphasis from sliders like this if they're slightly lower SV, that way they require movement and don't feel unfulfilling and jarring for the player
01:31:938 - same as 00:24:738 - but different rhythm + patterning, there's nothing more intense about this second chorus other than that its the end of the cut song
01:46:681 (4,1) - jussst slightly off perfectly straight

this insane is a lot better i really like a lot of the patterns

Kyshiro part 3

Another > Extra? shouldnt this be Kyshiro's Another and the next diff should be Kaeda's Extra?
00:18:738 (4,5,6,1,3) - if you could make these evenly spaced apart, it look so much cleaner and more in line with the rest of your structure
00:19:767 (3,5) - make sure if you do that, that this also uses the same overlap, so that it looks really consistent and pretty
00:26:109 (9) - NC this like at 00:15:138 (1)?
00:37:081 (9) - just for the record, the reason i'm not suggesting it here is because theres no clap
00:37:938 (4,5,6) - stack bugged :p
01:12:567 (2,3,1) - surprised this wasn't just stacked on 01:11:367 (1)'s slider end, any reason why not?
01:33:309 (9) - NC (like the other suggestion)

nice diff

Kaeda

Another > Extra? shouldnt this be Kaeda's Extra and the other diff be Kyshiro's Another?
00:11:024 (1,5) - i don't normally like to make suggestions like this, but do you think this would be neater if you blanketed it? i totally get it if you want to keep the sharp flow upwards
00:24:738 (1,2,3,4) - this looks SUPER gnarly atm but it has the potential to be so cool, i think making the V more pronouced would make the flow a lot cooler and would make it a lot clearer what you're going for
00:36:824 (14,15) - this flow is really icky to me because the flow coming out of the stream is too similar to the flow of the slider, making it super awkward to hit, perhaps something like this? angle is parallel with 00:37:081 (1) -
SPOILER
00:38:109 (6,1) -
SPOILER
00:38:452 (1,2) - both are off LOL
SPOILER
01:06:909 (2) - NC? just seems like you would since you NC'd the other velocities
01:09:567 (4,5) - properly stack like the others like it
01:15:052 (3,4) - same, not sure why you didnt stack these two when the others are all stacked ;;
01:32:711 (10,11,12) - unsnapped trio of notes
01:45:138 (5,6,7,1) -
SPOILER

my favourite diff

gamer

00:15:052 (8,1) - while playing this flow felt a little odd to me, i understand what you're going for but i feel like this flow doesn't work with the kickslider, just because of the movement associated with the slider: imo you get a more positive feeling from just making the pattern something like this, perhaps increase the spacing between the two notes for more emphasis?
SPOILER
00:36:051 (5,6,7,8,1) - i understand that you're trying to have the cute stack in your stream, but it's really messing up your stream shape, smooth this out to an angle you'd use for a 5 burst, THEN worry about stacking the stream afterwards
01:04:852 (1,2,3) - consider ctrl g'ing all 3 of these: its a lot more natural of a flow and makes more sense to me, that's how i read it when i sightread it
01:46:338 (1) - imo, you'd get more emphasis out of this if it was slightly lower speed, its too jump scare and not enough flow to feel fair/fun to the player

reol is gods gift to the earth

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-10-21T17:51:49+00:00

Kaifin wrote:
helo

set a preview point for the diffs that are missing it @polack

light insane
00:05:195 - have you considered making this clickable? i understand some of the other instances such as 00:11:709 (3) + 00:12:052 where the end of the quint isn't as pronounced, but here in the intro its very very clearly ringing out as the strongest note Done
00:07:081 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - i understand the intent and theory behind this pattern, but for light insane player there's no way they're going to be able to read this without retry, at the very least NC 00:07:595 (4) for readability, but if you want a suggestion of how to change the pattern, perhaps this would be a bit better? the slight overlap of 234 and 00:06:738 (1) might be too messy for your taste so feel free to mess around with it Fixed it, rearranged
SPOILER
00:16:509 (1,2) - Fixed
SPOILER
00:20:967 (2,3,4,5,6) - line is off :p I made it like this because if I do perfect blankets, the curve on sliders makes the pattern very ugly imo and this plays the same just looks better!
00:29:367 (3,1) - properly stack and adjust 00:30:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6) to compensate? Stack fixed and adjusted
00:35:195 (3,1) - this really needs to be spaced farther, very very easily read as 1/2 at its current spacing, maybe you could turn 00:35:195 (3) - into a clickable triplet since its clickable at 00:24:224 (4,5,6) - and stack it on top of 00:35:709 (1) Diversity, I wanna keep the slider, fixed spacing though!
01:00:909 (5,6,7,8,9) - no cute gimmick 00:15:652 (1,2,3,4,5) - for consistency?? you map this sound like this in all of its other instances it would be kyaaaaa uguuuuu des if you kept it going, using the normal quint instead fits the music a lot less Fix
01:06:738 (1,1,1) - ok so this could be super cute but its not for two reasons, one the triangle itself isn't EVEN, and two it doesn't fit into the rest of the pattern at all, its so clustered you need to give the triple a bit more space from 01:06:052 (1), perhaps move it up a bit and make it on the grid with 01:06:052 (1,1)? hopefully you understand what i mean Did something else but I like it how it is now
01:23:709 (1,3) - this 1 curve is not good for blanket or aesthetic Fix
SPOILER
01:45:652 (1) - this might be more personal, but i just find this really not nice looking if i'm honest LOL no flame, both bends are super icky looking to me, perhaps try and clean up the shaping a little bit? xxxx

this diff has a lot of really inconsistent rhythms unless theres some kind of overall patterning that i'm missing, try to comb through the map for rhythm inconsistency, especially between the two kiai times and assess why some sounds are clickable during the second kiai that aren't during the first
This is a collab, and imo it's just diverse and different approaches are used in various situations but it doesn't feel like it when you play it, it's still on a consistent level of spacing and patterning except few rhythm diversities.
insane
00:04:166 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - these two lines are at the same time not the same angle, and uneven as lines on their own, arranged in a way where its implied they'd be the same angle Fixed
00:25:767 (1) - if you're not NCing during 00:24:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - (which is fine), then remove NC on this because its the same length and it's kind of jarringly inconsistent to see large not NC'd streams, then have every buzz slider be NC'dFixed
00:36:137 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is really cool ty xd
00:39:138 (1) - i'll end up saying this in last diff as well, but you get more emphasis from sliders like this if they're slightly lower SV, that way they require movement and don't feel unfulfilling and jarring for the player I like the reverses!
01:31:938 - same as 00:24:738 - but different rhythm + patterning, there's nothing more intense about this second chorus other than that its the end of the cut song Staying, it's a collab and overall it's not that much different really, I will just change the spacing on a slider on 00:24:738
01:46:681 (4,1) - jussst slightly off perfectly straight Don't understand :<

this insane is a lot better i really like a lot of the patterns

gamer
00:15:052 (8,1) - while playing this flow felt a little odd to me, i understand what you're going for but i feel like this flow doesn't work with the kickslider, just because of the movement associated with the slider: imo you get a more positive feeling from just making the pattern something like this, perhaps increase the spacing between the two notes for more emphasis?
SPOILER
I like the way it is right now, it fits the previous aim changes in the stream and still gets the fast change with kickslider.
00:36:051 (5,6,7,8,1) - i understand that you're trying to have the cute stack in your stream, but it's really messing up your stream shape, smooth this out to an angle you'd use for a 5 burst, THEN worry about stacking the stream afterwards Done something else but yes the stream sucked
01:04:852 (1,2,3) - consider ctrl g'ing all 3 of these: its a lot more natural of a flow and makes more sense to me, that's how i read it when i sightread it CTRL-H'd instead
01:46:338 (1) - imo, you'd get more emphasis out of this if it was slightly lower speed, its too jump scare and not enough flow to feel fair/fun to the player Nah I like it the way it is, it is supposed to be fast in my head!

reol is gods gift to the earth

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2016-10-23T11:43:41+00:00

gamer
- 00:34:167 (9) - less spacing for this one could be cool man

- 00:39:824 (3) - nc since it's a downbeat and last note of the patern before pause

- 00:55:081 (6) - it's a pittyu here you don't want to follow those claps like you did previously

- 00:56:109 (11) - less less spacing for this, this note doesn't need such emphasis

- 01:11:367 (1,2) - i'd really consider you to follow those 1/4 and claps here instead of that voice forced emphasis.

- 01:22:338 (1) - see like here it's ok since no 1/4 to emphasis !

kaeda's another

- 01:09:567 (4) - that stack is intentional ?

- 01:24:995 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - that patern is really messy, like i'm pretty sure lot of poeple will miss read the end of this patern, or maybe i'm just bad, but i'd consider you to make it breath a bit.

- 01:33:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could you make those 1/4 curved a bit so the circular flow feels smoother ?

Kyhsiro
- 00:22:852 (4) - i would consider making this reverse clicable 'cause of the clap, because previously you follow them all the time..

- 00:37:252 (1) - the flow hjere after the stream to hit this note is kinda forced, how about you stack it on 00:36:394 (1) - of your stream?if you go that way make sure to reduce spacing of your next slider.

- 00:38:452 (1) - this low volume section doesn't need such emphasis imo, how about reducing a little bit the spacing here ?

worstkyshiro?
- 00:24:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try to reduce spacing of this stream, to fit the previous one.

- 00:39:824 (4) - nc for downbeat

[]
good map!
gl~
sorry for bad quality mod, but the map looks cool already (no kudo if it's not helpful)

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-10-23T14:35:52+00:00

Sotarks wrote:
gamer
- 00:34:167 (9) - less spacing for this one could be cool man
Yes
- 00:39:824 (3) - nc since it's a downbeat and last note of the patern before pause
Yes
- 00:55:081 (6) - it's a pittyu here you don't want to follow those claps like you did previously
Wanna keep that circle, I do a lot vocal-based!
- 00:56:109 (11) - less less spacing for this, this note doesn't need such emphasis
Yes
- 01:11:367 (1,2) - i'd really consider you to follow those 1/4 and claps here instead of that voice forced emphasis.
I want to keep it, it has been mentioned several times haha
- 01:22:338 (1) - see like here it's ok since no 1/4 to emphasis !
Yes

worstkyshiro?
- 00:24:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try to reduce spacing of this stream, to fit the previous one.
Nah the chorus is mostly in 1.0 DS so I wanna keep stream and triples at that!
- 00:39:824 (4) - nc for downbeat
Yes
[]
good map!
gl~
sorry for bad quality mod, but the map looks cool already (no kudo if it's not helpful)

THenk mr Sotarx

[ -Scarlet- ]

526 posts

Joined March 2013

[ -Scarlet- ] 2016-10-24T11:14:50+00:00

Hey there~ Sorry for the late mod

[General]

You probably should add in the original Japanese title which is "ネトゲ廃人シュプレヒコール"
Add a few more tags related to the songs, like "Hatsune Miku" or the Official english name of the song "The MMORPG ADDICTS ANTHEM"

Bad source: http://utaite.wikia.com/wiki/Netgame_Haijin_Sprechchor

[Gamer]

Not very sure this kind of map really need a harsh OD up to 9. Feels like somewhere around 8.5-ish would be good enough

00:04:509 (3) - 1/4 slider would be great here
00:09:652 - 00:09:824 - Remove these two inherited points
00:09:652 (1,2,3) - Using circles felt really weak at this part. Change 00:09:652 (1,2) - to 1/4 fits the song really well
00:14:795 (5) - This stream is rather hard to read, NC should do the trick
00:15:824 (7,8,9,10) - ~~This part plays really weirdly for me as the 1/4 slider isn't really used to emphasize the loud beat at 00:15:909 - . I think this rhythm fits the song better http://puu.sh/rTNEh/eec129b1bb.jpg~~ Actually nvm, not sure how to map with the rhythm I've suggested. I guess follow yours should be fine
01:02:709 - 01:02:795 - Not sure what these green lines are doing here @@
01:28:509 (5,6,7,8) - Not really big issue in terms of playability, but I find this spacing kind of unnecessary especially when it is same DS as 01:25:938 (4,5,6) - . The difference is one of them emphasizes on the loud beat really well, while the other almost doesn't have any 1/4 beat at all.

Actually, I don't find much issues with this map in terms of playability. Great job especially on the various change in SV part

[Kaeda's Another]

Not sure why this is named as "Another" when this difficulty has higher star than Kyshiro's Extra. Some bad reference: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/504245 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/47330

Not much issues found in this map though. Almost FC in first try
00:15:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This stream is rather confusing to play, mainly because of the loud beat at 00:15:909 (4) - makes me feel like "pausing" after what you have mapped at 00:14:967 (1,2,3) - and 00:15:309 (1,2,3) -
00:26:281 (4) - Not really sure how your NC-ing works. You NC-ed 00:15:309 (1) - but not 00:26:281 (4) - . Should keep things a little more consistent.
00:39:138 (2,3,4) - This triples plays really badly for me, mainly is because of the slow slider 00:38:452 (1) - that ends at blue tick. Highly recommend to remove 00:39:138 (2) - and extend the slider to white tick. If you wanna keep, I think it would be best to Ctrl+G 00:39:309 (4) - slider, for me it flows really well similar to what you did at 01:46:509 (3) -
01:24:995 (2,3,4,5,6) - Feel like this stream is a bit overdone when 1/4 beat are barely there. Plus it has the same DS as 01:31:938 (1,2,3,4) - where this part, the 1/4 is much clearer than 01:24:995 (2,3,4,5,6) -
01:33:481 (4) - Similar to what I've mentioned before about NCs

[Kyshiro's Extra]

I must say, this map is really well done! Really, almost nothing to point out here @@

00:26:109 (9) - Just a suggestion, why not make this end similar to 00:15:138 (1) - ?

Really sorry for the short mod

That's all from me for this map. The Insanes are really well done, I have nothing much to comment on those. I'm horrible with any diff below Insane, so I won't be modding those

Feel free to ask me to mod another of your map though, felt like my mods are rather short compared to what you have modded on my map

Good luck!

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-10-24T21:50:16+00:00

[ -Scarlet- ] wrote:
Hey there~ Sorry for the late mod

[General]
You probably should add in the original Japanese title which is "ネトゲ廃人シュプレヒコール"
Add a few more tags related to the songs, like "Hatsune Miku" or the Official english name of the song "The MMORPG ADDICTS ANTHEM"
Bad source: http://utaite.wikia.com/wiki/Netgame_Haijin_Sprechchor
Fixeddd
[Gamer]

Not very sure this kind of map really need a harsh OD up to 9. Feels like somewhere around 8.5-ish would be good enough I will reduce to 8.7 !
00:04:509 (3) - 1/4 slider would be great here Yes
00:09:652 - 00:09:824 - Remove these two inherited pointsYes
00:09:652 (1,2,3) - Using circles felt really weak at this part. Change 00:09:652 (1,2) - to 1/4 fits the song really wellTrue might find a better way to do it but I think it's fine now!
00:14:795 (5) - This stream is rather hard to read, NC should do the trick Done
00:15:824 (7,8,9,10) - ~~This part plays really weirdly for me as the 1/4 slider isn't really used to emphasize the loud beat at 00:15:909 - . I think this rhythm fits the song better http://puu.sh/rTNEh/eec129b1bb.jpg~~ Actually nvm, not sure how to map with the rhythm I've suggested. I guess follow yours should be fine
01:02:709 - 01:02:795 - Not sure what these green lines are doing here @@ Old remnants hha
01:28:509 (5,6,7,8) - Not really big issue in terms of playability, but I find this spacing kind of unnecessary especially when it is same DS as 01:25:938 (4,5,6) - . The difference is one of them emphasizes on the loud beat really well, while the other almost doesn't have any 1/4 beat at all. True, changed stream to 1/4 into triple instead, works better
Actually, I don't find much issues with this map in terms of playability. Great job especially on the various change in SV part

That's all from me for this map. The Insanes are really well done, I have nothing much to comment on those. I'm horrible with any diff below Insane, so I won't be modding those

Feel free to ask me to mod another of your map though, felt like my mods are rather short compared to what you have modded on my map

Good luck!

Thank you very much for the mod !

Keada

656 posts

Joined June 2013

Keada 2016-10-28T19:35:56+00:00

Almost everyone types my name wrong LUL

RikiH_ wrote:
Keada's Another

00:28:852 (3,5) - These look a bit ugly, maybe curve the second one a bit in order to make a sort of blanket? good idea dat, fixed
01:02:624 (5) - Move around 20|250? not completely, but I see what you mean, so fixed it my way
01:07:595 (2,5) - Stack these? dunno what is good here tbh, but ill go for stacking now

Akali wrote:
Kaeda's Another

Diffname pls it's not BMS/IIDX LUL oke

00:05:452 - could map and stack it on next slider, would require moving it cause it's kinda far nah, wanna keep it as it is now

00:16:167 (7) - drums maybe, slider doesn't fit much true dat

01:13:081 (2) - this dingus under the 01:12:738 (1) - doesn't look very nice during gameplay, taking into account the overall cleaninliness of the map oke

01:40:509 (3,4,5,6) - would use normal curve this stands out and looks weird noone likes these FeelsBadMan

01:43:938 (13) - could change to repeat 1/4 or 2 slider jumps yeah

Kaifin wrote:
Kaeda
Another > Extra? shouldnt this be Kaeda's Extra and the other diff be Kyshiro's Another? fixed that now, since everyone said things on it
00:11:024 (1,5) - i don't normally like to make suggestions like this, but do you think this would be neater if you blanketed it? i totally get it if you want to keep the sharp flow upwards it is better tho
00:24:738 (1,2,3,4) - this looks SUPER gnarly atm but it has the potential to be so cool, i think making the V more pronouced would make the flow a lot cooler and would make it a lot clearer what you're going for changed it a bit anyways, got an idea
00:36:824 (14,15) - this flow is really icky to me because the flow coming out of the stream is too similar to the flow of the slider, making it super awkward to hit, perhaps something like this? angle is parallel with 00:37:081 (1) - Nice that you noticed that, the flow was icky there indeed, changed it to more my kinda liking
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00:38:109 (6,1) -
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00:38:452 (1,2) - both are off LOL not for me View>stacking
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01:06:909 (2) - NC? just seems like you would since you NC'd the other velocities true
01:09:567 (4,5) - properly stack like the others like it oh oops, thought it was stacked
01:15:052 (3,4) - same, not sure why you didnt stack these two when the others are all stacked ;; same with this LUL
01:32:711 (10,11,12) - unsnapped trio of notes this is fine
01:45:138 (5,6,7,1) - fixed it from before
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my favourite diff ayy thanks

Sotarks wrote:
kaeda's another

- 01:09:567 (4) - that stack is intentional ? fixed it in previous

- 01:24:995 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - that patern is really messy, like i'm pretty sure lot of poeple will miss read the end of this patern, or maybe i'm just bad, but i'd consider you to make it breath a bit. hmm, if more people say anything then ill fix it, but seen none people having trouble with it so D:

- 01:33:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could you make those 1/4 curved a bit so the circular flow feels smoother ? fixed that

[ -Scarlet- ] wrote:
[Kaeda's Another]

Not sure why this is named as "Another" when this difficulty has higher star than Kyshiro's Extra. Some bad reference: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/504245 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/47330 fixed that now as well

Not much issues found in this map though. Almost FC in first try ayy
00:15:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This stream is rather confusing to play, mainly because of the loud beat at 00:15:909 (4) - makes me feel like "pausing" after what you have mapped at 00:14:967 (1,2,3) - and 00:15:309 (1,2,3) - fixed this earlier
00:26:281 (4) - Not really sure how your NC-ing works. You NC-ed 00:15:309 (1) - but not 00:26:281 (4) - . Should keep things a little more consistent. whoops, thanks!
00:39:138 (2,3,4) - This triples plays really badly for me, mainly is because of the slow slider 00:38:452 (1) - that ends at blue tick. Highly recommend to remove 00:39:138 (2) - and extend the slider to white tick. If you wanna keep, I think it would be best to Ctrl+G 00:39:309 (4) - slider, for me it flows really well similar to what you did at 01:46:509 (3) - Ill keep it like this for now, but if it annoys other people then I will change it
01:24:995 (2,3,4,5,6) - Feel like this stream is a bit overdone when 1/4 beat are barely there. Plus it has the same DS as 01:31:938 (1,2,3,4) - where this part, the 1/4 is much clearer than 01:24:995 (2,3,4,5,6) - okay, nerfed it
01:33:481 (4) - Similar to what I've mentioned before about NCs fixed

Thanks for all the mods!

heh

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Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2016-11-09T11:26:00+00:00

Normal.
01:14:795 (1,2) - Wouldn't starting the new combo from (2) fits the song better along the new stanza?

Hard.
2nd lowest diff = ar8 was a little cruel owo
01:15:652 - There is a clear vocal here which I think you could've expressed. The song was different with 01:04:681 and using the same 1/1 reverse slider didn't really fit the song nicely.

Light Insane.
00:04:852 (3,4) - According to the spacing logics, it was really hard to indicate this being a 1/4 rhythm. Adjust your spacing, or the rhythm to make things clearer.
00:10:509 (5,6,7) - The jump towards this 1/4 triple felt really large compared to the song.
00:34:509 - 00:56:452 - Omitting a vocal wasn't really cool.
01:00:909 (5,6,7,8,9) - Mind arranging the placement consistently as you've done at 00:26:624 (1,2,3,4,5) etc for consistency?
01:44:452 (2) - The spacing feels really inconsistent. If this was an intended jump, then it wasn't really effective since the spacings weren't that meaningfully different.

Insane.
00:11:024 (1,2,3) - Check in-game stacks. You'll see these aren't working as intended. Consider a manual stack or something.
00:22:338 - I feel this whistle to be misplaced.
01:03:138 (1,2) - What part of the song made (2) containing such a huge jump? I don't feel this made much sense.
01:44:624 (1) - There is a clear beat at 01:44:795. Omitting it and expressing the slider as an extended slider doesn't seem to be fitting the song.

Gamer.
I could see some several approach here. Personally, the outcomes at the later part of the map felt better than the front.
00:22:681 (5) - This jump felt way too excessive compared to the song.
01:06:395 (1) - 01:17:367 (1) - This slow down felt way too unfitting along the song. This was the only slow down for similar male vocal parts, and that's why.
01:39:824 (7,1) - I feel avoiding the overlap would work better in visuals.

WORSTPOLACKEU

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WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-11-10T13:18:07+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Light Insane.
00:04:852 (3,4) - According to the spacing logics, it was really hard to indicate this being a 1/4 rhythm. Adjust your spacing, or the rhythm to make things clearer.
00:10:509 (5,6,7) - The jump towards this 1/4 triple felt really large compared to the song.
00:34:509 - 00:56:452 - Omitting a vocal wasn't really cool.
01:00:909 (5,6,7,8,9) - Mind arranging the placement consistently as you've done at 00:26:624 (1,2,3,4,5) etc for consistency?
01:44:452 (2) - The spacing feels really inconsistent. If this was an intended jump, then it wasn't really effective since the spacings weren't that meaningfully different.
Fixed this aswell!

Insane.
00:11:024 (1,2,3) - Check in-game stacks. You'll see these aren't working as intended. Consider a manual stack or something.
00:22:338 - I feel this whistle to be misplaced.
01:03:138 (1,2) - What part of the song made (2) containing such a huge jump? I don't feel this made much sense.
01:44:624 (1) - There is a clear beat at 01:44:795. Omitting it and expressing the slider as an extended slider doesn't seem to be fitting the song.
Fixed everything in there!

Gamer.
I could see some several approach here. Personally, the outcomes at the later part of the map felt better than the front.
00:22:681 (5) - This jump felt way too excessive compared to the song. Vocal tone goes up so I think it's sufficient!
01:06:395 (1) - 01:17:367 (1) - This slow down felt way too unfitting along the song. This was the only slow down for similar male vocal parts, and that's why That's staying, I like the slowdown, it marks that moment and prepares for upcoming speedup with vocal starting again..
01:39:824 (7,1) - I feel avoiding the overlap would work better in visuals.Yes Fixed

Thanks

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-10T14:03:12+00:00

can you fix sonny sugggestion pls? it is just a NC

WORSTPOLACKEU

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WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-11-10T15:44:54+00:00

Natsu wrote:
can you fix sonny sugggestion pls? it is just a NC

Yessss

WORSTPOLACKEU

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WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-11-22T15:22:39+00:00

Woop

Sulfur

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Sulfur 2017-05-02T07:23:06+00:00

revived : o

Garden

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Garden 2017-07-12T03:30:05+00:00

General

Wave hitsounds with delay > 5ms: soft-hitfinish.wav
for most insane+ diffs: 00:15:909 - 00:26:881 - 01:01:167 - etc. I would like to see your rhythms prioritizing them, that would sound way more natural to me

Natsu's Normal

00:04:166 (1) - whistle on head + clap on tail
00:55:424 (4) - consider a circle + 1/1 slider to follow vocal? would make rhythm here more intuitive imo

Bearizm's Hard

00:04:166 (1) - whistle on head + clap on tail
I suggest lowering the ar to around 7.5 and hp to 5 for the diff spread, it won't affect the actual diff much cuz your design is pretty clean.
00:07:767 (6,7,8) - you do need to check the pattern with stacking https://puu.sh/wHlkJ/2122551018.png
00:58:167 (1,3) - should swap nc i guess?

WORSTKyshiroEU's Light Insane

00:04:166 - whistle, 00:04:509 - 00:05:195 - 00:12:052 - 00:57:309 - clap
00:23:024 (4,1) - spacing emphasis should be like 00:22:338 (2,3) - imo, you can just move 00:22:681 (3,4) - left
00:58:595 (3,4) - the introduction of 1/4 rhythm here seems too sudden, can you maybe map it in a more intuitive way? like stacking/overlappin them or sth

WORSTKyshiroEU's Insane

00:04:166 - 01:44:281 - whistle
00:26:624 (5,6,7,8) - I think rhythm should be similar to 00:15:824 (2,1) - or at least emphasize the blue tick sound with some different composition like 01:34:081 (8,9,10,11) - , for the sake of consistency in this diff

Kyshiro's Extra

00:04:166 - whistle

Keada's Extra

00:38:452 - two inherited points here, delete an unnecessary one
01:17:367 (4) - nc or make it a different shape from 01:17:195 (3) - , now the slowdown is a bit out of expectation lol
01:32:624 (9) - maybe nc here to suggest the sharp turn in stream, like 00:25:081 (1) -
01:40:509 - clap

Gamer

00:04:166 - whistle, 00:04:509 - 01:18:567 - clap
01:22:681 (2,4) - such perfect overlaps are unrankable according to the ranking criteria

not feel like nominating right now, I might come back to this but can't guarantee, gl as for now!

WORSTPOLACKEU

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WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-07-12T04:19:49+00:00

Garden wrote:
General
Wave hitsounds with delay > 5ms: soft-hitfinish.wav
for most insane+ diffs: 00:15:909 - 00:26:881 - 01:01:167 - etc. I would like to see your rhythms prioritizing them, that would sound way more natural to me
Natsu's Normal
00:04:166 (1) - whistle on head + clap on tail
00:55:424 (4) - consider a circle + 1/1 slider to follow vocal? would make rhythm here more intuitive imo
Bearizm's Hard
00:04:166 (1) - whistle on head + clap on tail
I suggest lowering the ar to around 7.5 and hp to 5 for the diff spread, it won't affect the actual diff much cuz your design is pretty clean.
00:07:767 (6,7,8) - you do need to check the pattern with stacking https://puu.sh/wHlkJ/2122551018.png
00:58:167 (1,3) - should swap nc i guess?
WORSTKyshiroEU's Light Insane
00:04:166 - whistle, 00:04:509 - 00:05:195 - 00:12:052 - 00:57:309 - clap
00:23:024 (4,1) - spacing emphasis should be like 00:22:338 (2,3) - imo, you can just move 00:22:681 (3,4) - left
00:58:595 (3,4) - the introduction of 1/4 rhythm here seems too sudden, can you maybe map it in a more intuitive way? like stacking/overlappin them or sth
WORSTKyshiroEU's Insane
00:04:166 - 01:44:281 - whistle
00:26:624 (5,6,7,8) - I think rhythm should be similar to 00:15:824 (2,1) - or at least emphasize the blue tick sound with some different composition like 01:34:081 (8,9,10,11) - , for the sake of consistency in this diff
Kyshiro's Extra
00:04:166 - whistle
Keada's Extra
00:38:452 - two inherited points here, delete an unnecessary one
01:17:367 (4) - nc or make it a different shape from 01:17:195 (3) - , now the slowdown is a bit out of expectation lol
01:32:624 (9) - maybe nc here to suggest the sharp turn in stream, like 00:25:081 (1) -
01:40:509 - clap
Gamer
00:04:166 - whistle, 00:04:509 - 01:18:567 - clap
01:22:681 (2,4) - such perfect overlaps are unrankable according to the ranking criteria
not feel like nominating right now, I might come back to this but can't guarantee, gl as for now!

Changed basically everything except the hitsound part because I don't understand what you mean (I don't know anything about hitsounds basically .. xD).
I'll ask Natsu about what u mean there.
I would like to keep the rhythms as they where you mentioned the blue ticks in GENERAL.
I changed the blue tick rhythm tho in the WORSTKyshiroEU's Insane for consistency!

Big thanks!!
Natsu will check out his diff with the note swap soon!

Keada

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Keada 2017-07-12T04:23:43+00:00

Can you fix my stuff? It's only NC, inherited and a clap to add so.

WORSTPOLACKEU

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WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-07-12T04:26:27+00:00

Keada wrote:
Can you fix my stuff? It's only NC, inherited and a clap to add so.

done xxddxd

Keada

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Keada 2017-07-12T04:29:07+00:00

Nice xdxdxxxxdD

WORSTPOLACKEU

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WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-07-12T15:34:26+00:00

Natsu fixed hitsound and everything that was remaining is fixed

val0108

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val0108 2017-08-17T15:00:11+00:00

oh its a short version.

WORSTPOLACKEU

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WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-08-18T17:44:03+00:00

val0108 wrote:
oh its a short version.

should I note it in the title ?

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