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Skylish

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2016-06-17T00:55:07+00:00

@Yoratama

>The 5-plets in the first Kiai session can be reduced a lot. I handled the note spread quite badly.But for the quadruplets and duplets, I will keep this style moving on due to the music style.

>The gap is too wide which is an headache problem still waiting be solved.More *easier* (just let the pp sys. does not detect pp patterns, then all is well?) patterns can be used, I agree with that.

01:37:239 (28,29) - Ctrl+G to follow drum? >yes, I was drunk obviously. Relative patterns are fixed in my other difficulties.
01:38:139 (31,32) - Ctrl+G ^^? > no, d d k is matching to the pitch of the accompaniment part.

@Mayoi Namekuji

> It should be the style the player want to see and play in an Oni, I mean that Oni's SR weights about 4.4~4.7. I can see your point but I rejected due to the note spread and pattern varieties. I will consider remapping Lite Oni (or Oni) since so far the opinion are telling that the patterns are too difficult and the breaks are too few. Somehow your suggestion is going to another way.

@Vulkin

> Those Finishes are rankable.

> For the suggestions in Lite Oni, I probably reject all now because I want to keep it Lite. In fact Oni is the prototype of Lite Oni, I just removed some notes from it

. And that's why Lite Oni sounds a bit weird, like joint dislocation

If I remap, I will put yours into consideration.

BBB wrote:
Hey, what's up? I'm doing this for an M4M for your queue. You asked for mods on the GD's so here we go.

Skylish's Lite Oni
00:11:589 (5) -
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This produces a better rhythm, in my opinion. > I am thinking of remapping this session. I can't really tell right now.

00:19:239 (67) - This finisher is rankable; don't worry about that. >I knew :3

00:29:139 (69) - What if you made this note a don? Just thinking. > no, I want to make a ladder-like pattern.

00:34:689 - It feels like there's a note missing here. Add a k? Vulkin made the same suggestion, though it seems Skylish hasn't seen it yet. > I was too busy to make a reply, and I saw it.

01:39:039 (35) - d k d d k _ k k -> d k d d k d d k? Matches both rhythm and melody here. > I am mapping to sfx there.

01:42:039 (1) - In this Kiai, you use kkkdk a lot. You might want to change some of those to an easier pattern, like kkdkk, kdddk, or kkddk, since kkkdk is pretty hard. > Yes, I am considering to use more so called easier patterns instead of 5-plets which may overkill the players.

01:47:964 (54) - This one section is where most of my misses were on sightread. Move this over by just one tick to make a 5plet kdddk? This is a really hard pattern! (At least for me) > I prefer using offbeat patterns because the music goes like that with rhythmic sense.

01:48:864 (63) - Change to dddk? It's a little easier. This is a lite oni. > Fine.

01:57:564 (142) - Same thing here as above. > same reply then.

02:10:839 (273) - Change the little d's in between these plets to k's, it seems to match the rest of the mapping style better. > In case I remain kkkdk patterns in lite Oni, they will be altered correspondingly, and vice versa.

Skylish's Oni
I wasn't quite able to pass this diff unfortunately, so I don't feel 100% confident in modding it. However, I was able to FC everything up to the kiai, so I'll mod that part.

00:12:339 (11) - dd dkd -> dk ddd As much as this will hurt me to play, I think it matches the drums in the song better. > I put sfx into consideration, it is remained as dkd .

00:22:089 (17) - dkk ddkdddk -> dk dk kdddk Matches just as well as what you have already, and I think this is more fun. > Offbeat patterns only exist in the first part of a repetitive phase. The music at the second half of a repetitive phase is a normal on-beat pattern.

00:48:039 (120) - This is kinda weird and you probably won't like this, but you could change these 2 short hard streams into one long easy one: Though this might not be what you're looking for in this diff, I personally find these sorts of patterns fun!
> This is fun, but also too hard! I do not want any long stream existing in Oni.

00:51:639 (155) - d -> k I feel this flows a little better. > k sounds weird according to the pitch and also the drum emphasizing part.

00:55:089 (183) - k -> d ^ > It is the highest pitch of the sfx and it should be a k instead of d.

These were a couple of pretty fun maps. I wish you luck on your rank.

[Pw]Forgotten wrote:
Kantan

LITE oni
SPOILER
00:42:489 (57,58,59) - [ddk] > [dkk] > I have to remap this session. Neither ddk nor dkk match the music well.
02:00:639 (172,173,174,175,176) - [dddkk] > [dkdkk] > quite nice.
02:16:389 (329,330,331,332,333) - [kdkdd] > [kdkkd] > note, too many k there.
02:18:039 (346,347,348,349,350) - [kdddk] > [kddkk] > I tried to only let the k show off there. kddkkis anti-flow here as well.

skylish's oni
SPOILER
01:40:389 (49,50,51) - [ddk] > [kdk] > k is only used for matching the drum and strong sfx there.
02:18:264 (382) - change to k > 02:18:039 (379,380,381,382,383) - kdddk form again, check the notice at LITE Oni in the relevant timing.

That all .-. you can try my suggest > ayy 竟然有另一個香港modder/mapper.

I will move on to check ptar's suggestion after my work

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Intelli

842 posts

Joined July 2014

Intelli 2016-06-17T16:43:04+00:00

ptar124 wrote:
Hell Oni
00:18:789 (94,95,96) - overmapped, there are no 1/6s for these 3 notes Fixed
00:58:089 (511,512,513,514) - ^ I definitely hear 1/6ths here, I'll keep it in mind though

I'm seeing a lot of repetition of kddkkddkk which for one, is very boring after a while and two, does not fit very well. In most songs, kdkkkdkkkdkkk is much more popular and fits much better. You should also study some of the Hell Oni-equivalent maps and see what they do with their patterns. These streams of yours can be a mixture of kdkk, kddk, kkdk etc. Some maps that I recommend you to study from are lolcube's Uta, Raiden's Cry For Eternity and Sayaka's PUPA. That way, you can get a better idea of how to effectively map this kind of difficulties as you probably haven't experienced it first-hand very often judging from your pp and skill level(didn't mean to insult, sorry if you take offense to that).

Continuing from the previous paragraph, what I was look for are patterns like 00:47:889 (403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421) It's not repetitive and also considerably easy to play.

I would like to conclude the mod for this diff right here. Feel free to pm me later when you make changes to your map or pm me in-game for an IRC mod so that I can give you some support. Lastly, don't feel down just because of my criticism, we all know that Hell Onis and up are absolute hardest to map

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192,128,125289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,125364,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,125439,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,125514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,125589,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,125664,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,125739,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,125814,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,125889,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,125964,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,126039,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,126189,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,126264,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,126339,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,126414,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,126489,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,126564,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,126639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,126789,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,126864,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,126939,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,127089,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,127164,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,127239,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,127389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,127464,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,127539,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,127689,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,127839,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,127989,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,128064,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,128139,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,128289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,128364,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,128439,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,128514,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,128589,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,128664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,128739,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,128814,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,128889,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,128964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,129039,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,129114,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,129189,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,129264,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,129339,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,129414,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,129489,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,129564,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,129639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,129714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,129789,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,129864,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,129939,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,130014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,130089,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,130164,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,130239,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,130314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,130389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,130464,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,130539,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,130614,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,130689,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,130764,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,130839,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,130914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,130989,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,131064,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,131139,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,131289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,131364,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,131439,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,131514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,131589,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,131739,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,131814,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,131889,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,131964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,132039,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,132114,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,132189,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,132339,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,132414,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,132489,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,132564,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,132639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,132714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,132789,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,132864,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,132939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,133089,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,133164,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,133239,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,133314,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,133389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,133464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,133539,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,133614,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,133689,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,133764,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,133839,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,133914,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,133989,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,134064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,134139,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,134214,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,134289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,134364,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,134439,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,134589,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,134664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,134739,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,134889,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,134964,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,135039,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,135114,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,135189,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,135264,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,135339,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,135489,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,135639,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,135714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,135789,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,135864,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,135939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,136014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,136089,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,136164,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,136239,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,136314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,136389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,136464,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,136539,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,136614,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,136689,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,136764,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,136839,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,136989,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,137064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,137139,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,137214,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,137289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,137364,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,137439,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,137514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,137589,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,137664,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,137739,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,137889,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,137964,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,138039,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,138189,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,138264,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,138339,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,138414,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,138489,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,138564,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,138639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,138714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,138789,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,138939,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139089,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139139,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139189,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,139239,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,139539,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139614,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139689,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139739,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139789,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,139839,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,139989,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,140064,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,140139,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,140214,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,140289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,140364,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,256,140439,1,6,0:0:0:0:
192,128,142839,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,145239,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,146439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,147639,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,148839,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,149139,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,149439,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,149739,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,256,150039,1,6,0:0:0:0:
320,256,152439,1,6,0:0:0:0:
192,128,153702,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,154175,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,154254,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,154333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,154412,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,154491,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,154570,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,128,154649,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,154728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,128,154807,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,154886,1,2,0:0:0:0:
192,256,154965,1,2,0:0:0:0:

I changed up some of the streams like you suggested, but if you have any specific streams you want to see changed still, message me in game or with forum PM

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2016-06-23T13:06:35+00:00

ptar124 wrote:
Oh hey it's Skylish Hi there!

Lite Oni
00:18:939 (63,64,65,66,67) - I'm not sure if you would want this. It's a point where the map can be DQed for. Plus, I don't think it's absolutely necessary. > somehow I had forgotten that it was a Lite Oni. ddd K now. (now it is Oni actually)

00:40:089 (40,41) - when it's dd, it's acceptable for me if you want some different sounding patterns but I don't think kk would work too well as you still need some of the low-pitched drum sounds. Either dd or dk will fit best > I change these two notes into dk now in my every difficulties.

00:56:439 (172,176) - I think these 2 finishes come in too unexpectedly to be in a Lite Oni difficulty. I mean, at my skill level, I will probably still miss on my first play. > These (there are 3) finishes will be remained. I think it is worthy to emphasize the music there with sfx by using Finish.

00:58:839 (194) - don? > I match every strong sfx with k (or K I mentioned above).

01:21:789 (5) - you still don't need an extra note here. I think it's better to just follow the piano for this part > That note is quite obviously standing out. It is kinda weird not to put a note there.

02:07:689 (242) - making this a kat would be nice, but it's fine the way it is. > k d k for 02:07:539 (240) - , 02:07:689 (241) - and 02:07:689 (241) - are following the pitch of piano well. No change as a result.

Nice map! I love how you mapped the last part but I think you should get the difficulty down a bit. I think it's a little too far off Muzu and too close to Oni. From Lite to Oni, I only see some really minor changes to make a stream 1/2 beats longer than in Lite Oni. I would recommend that you make it a little easier. You may not even need Lite for the map, just call this one Oni and call the other Inner Oni. That way, you have Kan, Fut, Muzu, Oni, Inner, Hell and Hellvean

> Yes, I am going to remap the first part of the Kiai and also the introduction part at the beginning. They are overmapped (cause I just remove some of the notes in Oni and do 'copy and paste' work ), putting Muzu into consideration.

Oni
00:18:489 (64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74) - now unless you want to behave like loctav, don't put a finish there > It is not Loctav's mapping style Loctav is sth with xoxoooxoxoxxO . Mine is fine because it is composed with dd and kk only, not a big problem there.

00:56:889 (200,204) - these are fine to put in here but still, a friendlly reminder that these are pretty complex > Remain.

00:58:839 (219) - don? > No, 00:58:839 (219,220) - comparing these two notes and you will get the answer.

01:21:639 (4,5,6) - like I said before, these are fine to put in at this difficulty but another reminder that it's not absolutely needed. > It sounds good to me. I still wanna keep them as well.

Pretty nice so far. I'm seeing really complex patterns there but hey, if you call this Inner Oni then it's completely cool. > I am re-naming it as 'Inner Oni'

Hell Oni
00:18:789 (94,95,96) - overmapped, there are no 1/6s for these 3 notes
00:58:089 (511,512,513,514) - ^

I'm seeing a lot of repetition of kddkkddkk which for one, is very boring after a while and two, does not fit very well. In most songs, kdkkkdkkkdkkk is much more popular and fits much better. You should also study some of the Hell Oni-equivalent maps and see what they do with their patterns. These streams of yours can be a mixture of kdkk, kddk, kkdk etc. Some maps that I recommend you to study from are lolcube's Uta, Raiden's Cry For Eternity and Sayaka's PUPA. That way, you can get a better idea of how to effectively map this kind of difficulties as you probably haven't experienced it first-hand very often judging from your pp and skill level(didn't mean to insult, sorry if you take offense to that).

Continuing from the previous paragraph, what I was look for are patterns like 00:47:889 (403,404,405,406,407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418,419,420,421) It's not repetitive and also considerably easy to play.

I would like to conclude the mod for this diff right here. Feel free to pm me later when you make changes to your map or pm me in-game for an IRC mod so that I can give you some support. Lastly, don't feel down just because of my criticism, we all know that Hell Onis and up are absolute hardest to map

Hellvean Oni
00:17:889 (72,73,74,75) - Although it's overmapped, it kinda oddly fits somehow... idk... but I kinda love it xD > It can be said to be overmapped, but actually I meant to make a similar pattern at 00:17:889 (72,73,74,75) - and 00:13:089 (22,23,24,25) - .

00:18:489 (78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - Another friendly DQ warning, although you can probably leave it given the high difficulty > If Loctav's map is not DQed, why mine would be in a danger ?

Okay, there's a little problem here. A lot of your 1/6s are NOT overmapped but it's extremely subtle that you really have to pay close attention to. This might lead to some problems in the ranking process. Definitely not telling you to delete them but just keep your eyes peeled for those.

But now, on the second part, I doubt that you'll survive the QAT attacks. Apart from overmapping, these 1/6s gets overboard and downright unnecessary. Giving them one long stream like Revolution Deathsquad will work. Be sure to tweak the remaining 1/4s for difficulty boost if you do so. Right now, if you remove 1/6s, it's kinda easy for a "Hell" Oni. Like I said to Intelli, you might want to study patterns from Uta and Cry For Eternity, in your case in particular, you might want to study Uta as it' has higher difficulty level. Nice map so far, LOVE the hitsounding! Best hitsounding I've heard for weeks for the maps coming in my mod queue. Keep up the good work!

> QAT's attack for sure is going to be a huge concern, but I would just leave it be until they start combating any unreasonable 1/6 uses. For stream patterns, Uta would be a nice choice indeed .

I try not to go into too much detail because I respect the mapper's map style and not because I'm lazy so excuse me for that.

Edit: I might send you a pattern of how I would map the part, no kuds for the next post

I need a plenty of time to remap and fix all the stuff. I cannot make my words here....

Prophecy

1,794 posts

Joined December 2013

Prophecy 2016-06-24T10:51:43+00:00

hi, here is random mod!

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[General]

The Spread is bit of unbalance? Especially Kantan between Futsuu.

[Skylish's Lite Oni]

Not really a Lite Oni, with 4.9*, it's pretty hard map.
00:12:864 (14,15,16,17) - you dare to put these 4 plets 1/4 in your Lite Oni? It's overmap.
00:17:139 (46,47,48,49,50,51) - overmap, Lite Oni should not like this.
00:18:489 (58,59,60,61,62) - this too, ddkkd is usually in Oni, not Lite one.

From now on, I will list all the overmap element here:
01:43:839 (18,19,20,21,22) -
01:43:239 (12,13,14,15,16) -
01:48:114 (55,56,57,58) -
01:48:714 (61,62,63,64) -
01:49:239 (66,67,68,69,70) -
01:52:089 (93,94,95,96,97) -
01:52:839 (100,101,102,103,104) -
01:53:439 (106,107,108,109,110) -
01:57:714 (143,144,145,146) -
01:58:239 (148,149,150,151,152) -
01:58:839 (154,155,156,157,158) -
01:59:439 (160,161,162,163,164) -
02:00:039 (166,167,168,169,170) -
02:00:639 (172,173,174,175,176) -
and many more, Lite Oni usually use some complex 3 plets (dkd kdk) and simple 5 plets (ddddd kkkkkk ddddk kkkkd)
Besides, you need to provide some break, your difficulties is lack of break.

Gl~

Skyhmer

372 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Skyhmer 2016-06-25T00:44:41+00:00

Prophecy wrote:
hi, here is random mod!

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[General]
The Spread is bit of unbalance? Especially Kantan between Futsuu.
A bit, yes. Regarding the futsuu, its definitely hard for a futsuu but I asked a lot of people and concluded that its overall design should be rankable, but adjustments towards a lower SR are always happening. I think the gap between muzu and the lite oni is justifiable considering the song (I use that excuse way too often), but Skylish is considering many options for that diff so Its probably bound to change.

Thanks for the random mod!

Last edited by Skyhmer 2016-06-26T15:54:50+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Raediaufar

879 posts

Joined November 2014

Raediaufar 2016-06-26T15:24:44+00:00

mod as requested

[Skylish Lite Oni]

click

00:40:089 (40,41) - dk

00:49:689 (119,120) - dd? well it's just based on my hearing

00:50:439 (124) - I heard a pretty high pitch piano here, so change to k. Like you following the piano sound here 00:50:889 (128,132) - with k as well

01:21:639 (4) - I don't think big D is necessary here, I prefer normal notes

[Muzukashii]

click

00:30:639 (54) - move to 00:30:789 - ? well better beat there

00:42:189 - add d, kinda offbeat here

00:56:439 (182,183,184,185) - pretty sure this should be kddk (hear the piano)

[Futsuu]

click

00:22:089 - add d?

01:02:739 - add d, it's weird to be empty here

01:07:839 - why no d here? the break is ok even if you put d here

01:11:439 - 01:12:639 - 01:16:239 - 01:17:439 - 01:27:039 - you likely missing a note all over here. The breaks are still ok even you add note to those

01:51:039 - add d?

01:51:939 (235) - if you apply that you might want to delete this for break

tbh, song like this. I find this kind of music difficult to map so yea I only look to the piano pitch and playability of your map

Edit: uhh pardon, I didn't read the lite oni so I think it was oni only.

Skyhmer

372 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Skyhmer 2016-06-26T17:02:37+00:00

Raediaufar wrote:
mod as requested

[Muzukashii]
click
00:30:639 (54) - move to 00:30:789 - ? well better beat there Suggested before. While I agree that it can work I honestly think a kd dk sounds horrible with the rest of this section so I avoided it.

00:42:189 - add d, kinda offbeat here 00:42:039 - Add a note here

00:56:439 (182,183,184,185) - pretty sure this should be kddk (hear the piano)Used to have that actually, but im ignoring the piano here. The upcoming ending 00:57:339 (185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195,196,197) - Is completely based around the drums so I think it would be more fitting to have the notes that set it up to be the same

[Futsuu]
click
00:22:089 - add d? Not really needed

01:02:739 - add d, it's weird to be empty here Alright

01:07:839 - why no d here? the break is ok even if you put d here below

01:11:439 - 01:12:639 - 01:16:239 - 01:17:439 - 01:27:039 - you likely missing a note all over here. The breaks are still ok even you add note to those I don't want to add these because I want the first 3 diffs to reaaally be like stepping stones for this section so they actually feel different. Adding these made it too similar to muzukashii

01:51:039 - add d? I think it sounds much better with a rest here and a note where 235 is

01:51:939 (235) - if you apply that you might want to delete this for break ^

tbh, song like this. I find this kind of music difficult to map so yea I only look to the piano pitch and playability of your map

Thanks for the mod, hope you get well.

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2016-07-05T14:34:43+00:00

Probably I have to wait for my DSE result or I do not have time to do other things, work in shift makes me sick....

Nyan

1,455 posts

Joined September 2008

Nyan 2016-07-12T19:17:33+00:00

[Kantan and Futsuu]

Better delete SV changes.

[Little Oni]

01:07:239 (205) - remove Finish
01:39:639 (39,40,41) - K__k__k_k

[Oni]

01:07:239 (230) - remove Finish

[Hell Oni]

00:11:064 - add a don
00:12:714 - add a kat
00:34:989 (261,262,263,264) - ddkd

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2016-07-12T23:01:55+00:00

Probably the main problem is not the uses of Finish as they are acceptable.

The biggest headache is the pattern and notes distribution. Even I have reworked a lot, I am still not satisfied with my re-new work.

Today is the announcement of my public exam, I am looking forward to it, while, I may have more spare time for osu!

Skyhmer

372 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Skyhmer 2016-07-13T00:24:33+00:00

Nyan wrote:
[Kantan and Futsuu]

Better delete SV changes.

I'll watch for this. The only times I change the SV is when it switches between the 3 distinct sections, and both diffs have a 1/1 rest before any SV changes occur. I can see how that would be a concern for kantan, but im not too worried about the changes on the futsuu. (Unless I missed a solid rule that prohibits them)

Thanks for the mod Nyan

Intelli

842 posts

Joined July 2014

Intelli 2016-07-17T01:10:56+00:00

~~Placeholder for reply~~

Nyan wrote:
[Hell Oni]

00:11:064 - add a don
00:12:714 - add a kat
00:34:989 (261,262,263,264) - ddkd

all fixed

asd

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Aloda

osu! Alumni

444 posts

Joined November 2011

Aloda 2016-07-21T02:34:27+00:00

Hello. M4M here. Really sorry I took so long

Kantan

00:24:339 (25) - I don't really understand why this note is here. The similar patterns around here don't sound significantly different to me. I guess this is just here to avoid repetition, but I think this would sound better without the note anyway.

00:41:589 (50,51) - Even though these notes match the song, notes on the red ticks like this are really unintuitive to play when the rest of the map is entirely on beat, especially for beginners who are using Kantans to learn to follow the beat. Consider removing them and adding a d at 00:42:039

Futsuu

Your structure in the Kiai section seems a little strange to me. Your use of 1/2 in particular is a bit weird. For example, compare 01:42:039 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207) to 01:44:139 (208,209,210,211,212,213) There's no dramatic change in intensity between these two phrases yet you've mapped 01:42:039 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207) to be more intense. Take a look through this section and see if you can add or remove some 1/2 to make it a little more consistent.

The other diffs seem good. Good luck with your map!

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2016-07-24T15:33:34+00:00

Lite Oni has quite a big problem as Prophecy mentioned long time ago. The patterns at the very beginning of the Kiai session is too hard indeed.

I try hard to re-map it

Here's the plan: (old --> new)

Skylish's Lite Oni --> Skylish's Oni

Skylish's Oni --> Skylish's Inner Oni

Skylish's Hellvean Oni --> Skylish's Hellvean Oni (still XD)

Skyhmer

372 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Skyhmer 2016-07-24T18:16:48+00:00

Aloda wrote:
Hello. M4M here. Really sorry I took so long

Kantan
00:24:339 (25) - I don't really understand why this note is here. The similar patterns around here don't sound significantly different to me. I guess this is just here to avoid repetition, but I think this would sound better without the note anyway. Removed, yes it was to avoid repetition.

00:41:589 (50,51) - Even though these notes match the song, notes on the red ticks like this are really unintuitive to play when the rest of the map is entirely on beat, especially for beginners who are using Kantans to learn to follow the beat. Consider removing them and adding a d at 00:42:039 I was skeptical about this too. What you suggested works well

Futsuu
Your structure in the Kiai section seems a little strange to me. Your use of 1/2 in particular is a bit weird. For example, compare 01:42:039 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207) to 01:44:139 (208,209,210,211,212,213) There's no dramatic change in intensity between these two phrases yet you've mapped 01:42:039 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207) to be more intense. Take a look through this section and see if you can add or remove some 1/2 to make it a little more consistent. I can agree with this. I didn't change anything yet because I need to decided on something that fits with the rest of the kai section and not sound like complete ass

The other diffs seem good. Good luck with your map!

Thanks for the mod!

Fuel

284 posts

Joined November 2014

Fuel 2016-07-27T05:34:04+00:00

Hi, from my mod queue. Sorry for the delay.

d = don, red note
k = kat, blue note
D = don finisher, big red note
K = kat finisher, big blue note

mod

Kantan
00:12:039 (8) - Change to d? Given the lack of a piano sound here (you left this beat unmapped in the previous section but I guess there's additional percussion here)
00:16:839 (13) - ^
00:20:139 (17) - Move to 00:19:839? Again for the piano sound.

Futsuu
Nothing to note.

Muzukashii
Nice diff.

Skylish's Lite Oni
The gap between this and Muzu is wider than between other diffs. Doesn't really feel like a Lite Oni but I guess you already mentioned that in your last post.
02:10:164 (267,268) - Ctrl+g? imo the k sounds more fitting on the white tick given the piano sound.

Skylish's Oni
02:10:164 (287,288) - As per Lite Oni.

Nice set, good luck with it.

Hope it helps

edit: formatting

Skyhmer

372 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Skyhmer 2016-07-27T21:24:49+00:00

Invective wrote:
Hi, from my mod queue. Sorry for the delay.

d = don, red note
k = kat, blue note
D = don finisher, big red note
K = kat finisher, big blue note

mod
Kantan
00:12:039 (8) - Change to d? Given the lack of a piano sound here (you left this beat unmapped in the previous section but I guess there's additional percussion here) alright I see what you mean
00:16:839 (13) - ^^
00:20:139 (17) - Move to 00:19:839? Again for the piano sound. I much rather put the note where it is instead of on that piano sound (is that even a piano?) I'd change this if it was deemed to difficult

Futsuu
Nothing to note.

Muzukashii
Nice diff.

Skylish's Lite Oni
The gap between this and Muzu is wider than between other diffs. Doesn't really feel like a Lite Oni but I guess you already mentioned that in your last post.
02:10:164 (267,268) - Ctrl+g? imo the k sounds more fitting on the white tick given the piano sound.

Skylish's Oni
02:10:164 (287,288) - As per Lite Oni.

Nice set, good luck with it.

Hope it helps

edit: formatting

Thanks for the mod!

Kiki Iki

40 posts

Joined November 2014

Kiki Iki 2016-08-18T17:35:18+00:00

Hi. From M4M

That's very beautiful. Just super beautiful! Perfectly! Ok... I have no words

So

SPOILER

Skylish's Hellvean Oni

I tried to look for errors with playback rate 25%

01:58:764 (207) - kat?
How many errors here?

Intelli's Hell Oni

00:33:339 (244,245,246,247,248) - kdkdk

Skylish's Oni

01:38:439 (35) - kat?

Skylish's Lite Oni

I have not found any errors. Perfect

Muzukashii

00:29:139 (46,47,48) - ctrl + g
00:43:239 (115) - kat?
00:45:939 (129,130) - ctrl + g
00:48:339 (142,143,144) - ^
00:53:889 (169,170) - ^
01:43:989 (280,281) - ^
01:44:289 (282,283) - ^
01:45:339 (287,288,289) - ^
02:04:539 (385,386,387) - ^
02:11:439 (419) - kat?

Futsuu

00:29:139 (59,60,61) - ctrl + g
00:34:539 (75,76,77) - ddk
00:48:339 (117,118,119) - ctrl + g
00:53:739 (134,135,136) - ddk

Kantan

02:19:839 (176) - kat?

End. Ah. This is so amazing map. I like it! Good luck. Waiting for your mod

Skyhmer

372 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Skyhmer 2016-08-19T02:31:12+00:00

Kiki Iki wrote:
Hi. From M4M

That's very beautiful. Just super beautiful! Perfectly! Ok... I have no words

So

SPOILER
Skylish's Hellvean Oni

I tried to look for errors with playback rate 25%

01:58:764 (207) - kat?
How many errors here?

Intelli's Hell Oni

00:33:339 (244,245,246,247,248) - kdkdk

Skylish's Oni

01:38:439 (35) - kat?

Skylish's Lite Oni

I have not found any errors. Perfect

Muzukashii

00:29:139 (46,47,48) - ctrl + g Follows the kick/cymbal
00:43:239 (115) - kat? Doesn't fit
00:45:939 (129,130) - ctrl + g Follows the kick/cymbal
00:48:339 (142,143,144) - ^ Follows the kick/cymbal
00:53:889 (169,170) - ^
01:43:989 (280,281) - ^
01:44:289 (282,283) - ^
01:45:339 (287,288,289) - ^
02:04:539 (385,386,387) - ^
02:11:439 (419) - kat?^ through all of them
I almost completely ignored the piano in this diff

Futsuu

00:29:139 (59,60,61) - ctrl + g Follows the kick/cymbal w/e
00:34:539 (75,76,77) - ddk kkd works better for the 2 kicks then down beat
00:48:339 (117,118,119) - ctrl + g Same reason for the other ctrl + g suggestion
00:53:739 (134,135,136) - ddk ^

Kantan

02:19:839 (176) - kat? Those notes follow the down beats for that drum roll. Does not sound right if I change colors when its only 1/1 notes

End. Ah. This is so amazing map. I like it! Good luck. Waiting for your mod

Thanks
I'll try to get yours done tomorrow

Intelli

842 posts

Joined July 2014

Intelli 2016-08-20T23:34:31+00:00

suggestion on my diff makes sense.

(please just add it in the next update so i dont have to post the whole damn code for no reason xd)

Skyhmer

372 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Skyhmer 2016-08-21T03:33:33+00:00

Intelli wrote:
suggestion on my diff makes sense.

(please just add it in the next update so i dont have to post the whole damn code for no reason xd)

Done

JudgeTheDude

595 posts

Joined September 2011

JudgeTheDude 2016-08-24T15:47:20+00:00

Damn, so many posts already, hard to find things to fix

[Kantan]

Nothing to say, really good

[Futsuu]

Nothing to say, really good

[Muzukashii]

00:30:489 (53) - k
00:37:089 (85,86) - dk

[Lite Oni]

Nothing to say, really good

Very nice map ^^ I hope you'll get ranked soon, because it's really great ! Have a star !

Skyhmer

372 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Skyhmer 2016-08-25T00:07:06+00:00

JudgeTheDude wrote:
Damn, so many posts already, hard to find things to fix

[Kantan]
Nothing to say, really good

[Futsuu]
Nothing to say, really good

[Muzukashii]
00:30:489 (53) - k | Changing to dkk doesn't match the song as well as ddk.
00:37:089 (85,86) - dk | Changed #85 to d but #86 stayed how it was. This works nicely.

[Lite Oni]
Nothing to say, really good

Very nice map ^^ I hope you'll get ranked soon, because it's really great ! Have a star !

Thank you for the mod and star!

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2016-08-25T00:16:04+00:00

My diff.s are in a HUGE delay. I have no excuse to do the work so late.

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