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Lizzehb
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, July 01, 2011 at 12:53:26 AM

Artist: SNoW
Title: NightmaRe
Source: Jigoku Shoujo
Tags: lepidopodus imuffin muffin SapphireGhost
BPM: 140
Filesize: 5335kb
Play Time: 02:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. SapphireGhost's Wallowing Sin (4.99 stars, 477 notes)
  2. Cursed Flowers (3.37 stars, 220 notes)
  3. iMuffin's Pitiful Soul (2.4 stars, 185 notes)
  4. lepidon! - Taiko Oni (4.89 stars, 806 notes)
  5. Midnight Revenge (4.65 stars, 334 notes)
Download: SNoW - NightmaRe
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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First submit 12/25/10

Latest update: June 29th, 2011

MP3 cut by Charles445.

Skin: yeahyeahyeahhh

Mods competed:
-DesuDesuDesuDesuDesu
-SapphireGhost
-Phyrearms
-AIMods
-Charles445
-Kuroneko-sHerald
-kurohacker
-NeVeR_DiE
-Zelos
-lovhin456
-RandomJibberish
-yeahyeahyeahhh
DesuDesuDesuDesuDesu
Overall fairly nice map

I see a few instances where the notes are kind of off center of where they were supposed to be an example of this is at 2:06 the 4th and 5th purple combo arent completely matched up (this could have been intentional) but i suggest turning your grid down a little bit to help straighten these out.



Also, the spinner at 1:26:108 just looks like a randomly placed spinner in my opinion, i would suggest a rainbow slider or something more natural to put there. Likewise with the one at 2:34:680.

You probably just havent gotten to this yet, but just pointing out, theres a complete lack of sound, like finishes at the end of combos and whistles and claps :P

Some parts are confusing to sight read like where the notes are placed close together but have a far apart beat, it doesnt need to be changed but im just letting you know its kind of annoying the first time you play the song.

I also dislike the silver repeat sliders at 55:680, they just sound off

Well, I hope this noob was of at least some help to you, these are just opinions, nothing really has to be changed except i think the first thing needs fixing, and the sounds, but you probably already knew that.

keep working on it. :D
SapphireGhost
General - Try to focus on one/two beatmaps at a time. It's less work for you and the quality is better.

00:54:823 (10) The ghosts of Distance Snap will haunt you for this one.
02:06:823 (7,8,9) This part needs to be fixed so it lines up perfectly.

Bah, I'll get to this more later. Have a Star for now
Phyrearms

SapphireGhost wrote:

General - Try to focus on one/two beatmaps at a time. It's less work for you and the quality is better.
It's nice to be able to kill some time working on maps, but it really is just killing time when you're not putting in the effort to get any of them ranked! Will this be your first ranked map?
Topic Starter
Lizzehb

DesuDesuDesuDesuDesu wrote:

Overall fairly nice map

I see a few instances where the notes are kind of off center of where they were supposed to be an example of this is at 2:06 the 4th and 5th purple combo arent completely matched up (this could have been intentional) but i suggest turning your grid down a little bit to help straighten these out. I didn't see that one oops!

[attachment=0:10f7d]nightmare.png[/attachment:10f7d]

Also, the spinner at 1:26:108 just looks like a randomly placed spinner in my opinion, i would suggest a rainbow slider or something more natural to put there. Likewise with the one at 2:34:680. There's like a oooOOOOwwaaaOOooo noise there maybe you can't hear it?

You probably just havent gotten to this yet, but just pointing out, theres a complete lack of sound, like finishes at the end of combos and whistles and claps :P Hit sounds I do LAST.

Some parts are confusing to sight read like where the notes are placed close together but have a far apart beat, it doesnt need to be changed but im just letting you know its kind of annoying the first time you play the song.

I also dislike the silver repeat sliders at 55:680, they just sound off Fixed, they should sound better now.

Well, I hope this noob was of at least some help to you, these are just opinions, nothing really has to be changed except i think the first thing needs fixing, and the sounds, but you probably already knew that.

keep working on it. :D
Topic Starter
Lizzehb

Phyrearms wrote:

SapphireGhost wrote:

General - Try to focus on one/two beatmaps at a time. It's less work for you and the quality is better.
It's nice to be able to kill some time working on maps, but it really is just killing time when you're not putting in the effort to get any of them ranked! Will this be your first ranked map?
*Giggles*~

I'm going to stop mapping now until these are ranked. I just needed something I liked/other people liked and wanted to stick with.
Topic Starter
Lizzehb

SapphireGhost wrote:

General - Try to focus on one/two beatmaps at a time. It's less work for you and the quality is better.

00:54:823 (10) The ghosts of Distance Snap will haunt you for this one. I like that jump. :3 I'll see of others complain about it, then I'll remove it.
02:06:823 (7,8,9) This part needs to be fixed so it lines up perfectly. Fixed.

Bah, I'll get to this more later. Have a Star for now
Phyrearms
Offset: 387
BPM: no change
Then, resnap all notes from the Timing menu before any of the below mods.

00:34:779: This slider sounds too random and sporadic
00:36:494: ^
00:38:208: ^
00:38:958: Stretch this slider one more notch to the white tick
00:39:601 (3 - 10) Move these notes to the right, closer to the #2 repeating slider; jump is too big
00:54:815: Move this note further away from the rest
00:55:672: This slider sounds too random and sporadic
01:02:315: ^
01:12:387: This slider ends too late; end it on the white tick and put a note on the red tick after that
01:19:029: End this slider one notch earlier, on the white tick
02:13:887: Move this slider ahead one tick
02:20:958: This slider ends too late; end it on the white tick and put a note on the red tick after that
02:27:601: End this slider one notch earlier, on the white tick
02:28:244 (2, 3): Move these further away from the rest of the combo (left perhaps)

Last time I'm going to do mods until something gets ranked. :roll:
Topic Starter
Lizzehb

Phyrearms wrote:

Offset: 387
BPM: no change
Then, resnap all notes from the Timing menu before any of the below mods.

00:34:779: This slider sounds too random and sporadic Fixed.
00:36:494: ^Fixed.
00:38:208: ^ Fixed.
00:38:958: Stretch this slider one more notch to the white tick Fixed.
00:39:601 (3 - 10) Move these notes to the right, closer to the #2 repeating slider; jump is too big Fixed.
00:54:815: Move this note further away from the rest Fixed.
00:55:672: This slider sounds too random and sporadic Fixed.
01:02:315: ^Fixed.
01:12:387: This slider ends too late; end it on the white tick and put a note on the red tick after that Fixed.
01:19:029: End this slider one notch earlier, on the white tick Fixed.
02:13:887: Move this slider ahead one tick Fixed.
02:20:958: This slider ends too late; end it on the white tick and put a note on the red tick after that Fixed.
02:27:601: End this slider one notch earlier, on the white tick Fixed.
02:28:244 (2, 3): Move these further away from the rest of the combo (left perhaps) Fixed.

Last time I'm going to do mods until something gets ranked. :roll:
<3
Topic Starter
Lizzehb
Just waiting on Agnes' difficulty now...
iMuffin
while you wait have a star~

also made like one or two suggestions before lol
Agnes
S'up doll. Making a Normal, most likely. Have a kd star.

[Small Pointers]
  1. I could try and find a clearer MP3 if you wish...
  2. The hitcircles are fairly small for Hard. o3o
Topic Starter
Lizzehb

Agnes wrote:

S'up doll. Making a Normal, most likely. Have a kd star.

[Small Pointers]
  1. I could try and find a clearer MP3 if you wish...
  2. The hitcircles are fairly small for Hard. o3o
Problem is that the song has to be the right version of the song. but if you can find one I have a video I wanna match it up with.

I've seen hards with that size circles buuuuuut i'll change it.
Topic Starter
Lizzehb
DON'T GET GRAVED. D:
SapphireGhost
We'll save the map, Lizzehb (We = iMuffin and I)

Here's my (obviously incomplete) difficulty. Will update later~

Download: SNoW - NightmaRe (Lizzehb) [Sapphire].osu
iMuffin

SapphireGhost wrote:

We'll save the map, Lizzehb (We = iMuffin and I)
true we will save this

Download: SNoW - NightmaRe (Lizzehb) [imuffin].osu
SapphireGhost
Guess what, my difficulty is now complete and beautiful.

Download: SNoW - NightmaRe (Lizzehb) [Sapphire].osu
Firo Prochainezo
Put Hell Girl as source and remove "hell girl" from tags.
Topic Starter
Lizzehb

Firo Prochainezo wrote:

Put Hell Girl as source and remove "hell girl" from tags.
NO STAR LOL WUT?
Charles445
I hope you like long mods

General
Cut the mp3 if you're not mapping the whole song.
Offset 815 but leave the notes where they are, then resnap all of them in case some became unsnapped for some ungodly reason.
This will fix a taiko thing and make the measures work better.
Add every guest mapper's name to the tags of the map.
MAKE SURE EVERY DIFFICULTLY HAS THE SAME TAGS.
00:55:672 - Start the kiai here
01:23:101 - Stop the kiai here
02:04:244 - Start the kiai here
02:31:672 - Stop the kiai here

iMuffin's Failure of a Difficulty
AR +2 or +3
00:05:529 - We're already starting off on the wrong foot. Why the HELL does this spinner start here.
00:17:529 - Remove new combo
00:17:958 - ^^
00:18:387 - WHERE'S THE SPINNER
00:28:458 (1,2) - THIS IS THE EASIEST DIFFICULTY WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
01:09:601 - This slider needs to end at 01:11:101
01:26:101 - Remove new combo
01:26:529 - ^^
01:46:244 - Add a circle?
02:18:172 - I can tell by some of the pixels that you're copypastaing
02:18:172 - Also, make this end at 02:19:672
02:34:672 - Remove new combo
02:35:101 - ^^

Cursed Flowers
AR +1 or +2
00:17:101 - Remove new combo
00:17:529 - ^^
00:39:386 (1,2,3,4) - This combo should NOT have bigger spacing.
01:01:672 - Remove new combo
01:25:672 - ^^
01:26:101 - ^^
01:50:744 - Add a repeat
01:52:458 - ^^
Fix the spacing problems that those caused
02:18:172 - Add a repeat
Fix that spacing
02:21:601 - This doesn't work.
02:34:244 - Remove new combo
02:34:672 - ^^

Midnight Revenge
THAT FUCKING BACKGROUND
00:17:101 - Remove new combo
00:17:529 - ^^
00:29:958 - Add a repeat
00:30:494 - Move this 2 to the next red tick on the timeline
Then fix that spacing blah blah
00:31:887 - I was hoping this would be a repeat slider...
00:32:530 (3,4) - This is misleading as POOT it looks like a POOTING stream but it's not a POOTING STREAM
00:38:744 - New combo
00:45:601 - ^^
00:45:601 - Remove a repeat
00:46:029 - Add a circle
Fix spacing blah blah
01:02:744 - New combo
01:12:172 - ^^
01:17:530 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - VERY misleading and hard to read, especially because of the approach rate
01:21:601 - New combo
01:25:672 - Remove new combo
01:26:101 - ^^
02:03:172 - Add a circle
02:11:315 - Add a repeat
Fix spacing blah blah BLAH blah
02:28:029 - Remove a repeat
02:28:458 - Add a circle
Fix spacing again ololol
02:34:244 - Remove new combo
02:34:672 - ^^


SG's Epic difficulty
00:26:529 - New combo
00:27:386 - Remove new combo
00:28:457 - New combo
It works better that way
00:32:529 (5,6) - Woah woah if you're going to have a random jump, new combo the 6
00:54:387 (3,4,5) - This is like the most misleading thing I've ever seen ever. It feels undermapped and isn't newcombo'd
00:58:886 - Remove new combo
01:04:029 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I dunno about this...
01:14:958 - Remove new combo
01:31:457 - Remove new combo
01:35:100 - New combo
01:36:600 - Remove new combo
01:38:315 - New combo
01:42:815 - ^^
01:52:029 - ^^
01:54:172 - Fantastic acceleration, really.
02:02:743 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ohai ztrot
02:17:100 - Remove new combo
02:17:529 - ^^
02:31:457 - Replace this with a spinner (the map doesn't have one yet)
KingKrishna
.... i cant find any problems :"(
lol so here is a suggestion
put some whistle hitsound around XD
this feels like a bubble but i am a noob XD



AHHAA
CURSED FLOWERS
02:00:755(4) not fully curve (fail) XDD




im a fail im sorry i couldnt help that much

BUT I AM STARING U FOR UR ASWOMEs
Firo Prochainezo

Lizzehb wrote:

Firo Prochainezo wrote:

Put Hell Girl as source and remove "hell girl" from tags.
NO STAR LOL WUT?
lolno. I didn't played it yet.
SapphireGhost

Charles445 wrote:

SG's Epic difficulty
00:26:529 - New combo
00:27:386 - Remove new combo
00:28:457 - New combo
It works better that way
00:32:529 (5,6) - Woah woah if you're going to have a random jump, new combo the 6
00:54:387 (3,4,5) - This is like the most misleading thing I've ever seen ever. It feels undermapped and isn't newcombo'd
00:58:886 - Remove new combo
01:04:029 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I dunno about this... I like it, actually~ If someone else asks me to change it, though...
01:14:958 - Remove new combo
01:31:457 - Remove new combo
01:35:100 - New combo
01:36:600 - Remove new combo
01:38:315 - New combo
01:42:815 - ^^
01:52:029 - ^^
01:54:172 - Fantastic acceleration, really. Thank you
02:02:743 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ohai ztrot ohai
02:17:100 - Remove new combo
02:17:529 - ^^
02:31:457 - Replace this with a spinner (the map doesn't have one yet) I like my hiragana :(
Diff update
This is yes

Download: SNoW - NightmaRe (Lizzehb) [SapphireGhost's Wallowing Sin].osu
Topic Starter
Lizzehb

Charles445 wrote:

I hope you like long mods Not really uguu~

General
Cut the mp3 if you're not mapping the whole song.I'll make someone do it later, it'll need an offset then.
Offset 815 but leave the notes where they are, then resnap all of them in case some became unsnapped for some ungodly reason. k
This will fix a taiko thing and make the measures work better.
Add every guest mapper's name to the tags of the map.k
MAKE SURE EVERY DIFFICULTLY HAS THE SAME TAGS. k
00:55:672 - Start the kiai hereDone~
01:23:101 - Stop the kiai hereDone~
02:04:244 - Start the kiai hereDone~
02:31:672 - Stop the kiai hereDone~


Cursed Flowers
AR +1 or +2 Done~
00:17:101 - Remove new combo Done~
00:17:529 - ^^ Done~
00:39:386 (1,2,3,4) - This combo should NOT have bigger spacing. Done~
01:01:672 - Remove new combo Done~
01:25:672 - ^^ Done~
01:26:101 - ^^Done~
01:50:744 - Add a repeat Done~
01:52:458 - ^^ Done~
Fix the spacing problems that those caused Done~
02:18:172 - Add a repeat Done~
Fix that spacing Done~
02:21:601 - This doesn't work.Got rid of a repeat, added a slider.
02:34:244 - Remove new comboDone~
02:34:672 - ^^Done~

Midnight Revenge
THAT FUCKING BACKGROUND I really don't think it's that creepy!
00:17:101 - Remove new combo Done~
00:17:529 - ^^
00:29:958 - Add a repeat Done~
00:30:494 - Move this 2 to the next red tick on the timelineDone~
Then fix that spacing blah blahDone~
00:31:887 - I was hoping this would be a repeat slider... Changed. :3
00:32:530 (3,4) - This is misleading as POOT it looks like a POOTING stream but it's not a POOTING STREAMChanged it around a bit, should make more sense now.
00:38:744 - New combo Done~
00:45:601 - ^^Done~
00:45:601 - Remove a repeatDone~
00:46:029 - Add a circle Done~
Fix spacing blah blahDone~
01:02:744 - New combo Done~
01:12:172 - ^^ Done~
01:17:530 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - VERY misleading and hard to read, especially because of the approach rateChanged~
01:21:601 - New combo Done~
01:25:672 - Remove new combo Done~
01:26:101 - ^^Done~
02:03:172 - Add a circle Done~
02:11:315 - Add a repeatDone~
Fix spacing blah blah BLAH blahDone~
02:28:029 - Remove a repeatDone~
02:28:458 - Add a circle Done~
Fix spacing again olololDone~
02:34:244 - Remove new combo Done~
02:34:672 - ^^Done~
Done. Ily, have my babies.
iMuffin

Charles445 wrote:

iMuffin's Failure of a Difficulty
AR +2 or +3okay done
00:05:529 - We're already starting off on the wrong foot. Why the HELL does this spinner start here.no need for caps
00:17:529 - Remove new combodone
00:17:958 - ^^done
00:18:387 - WHERE'S THE SPINNERokay i added one
00:28:458 (1,2) - THIS IS THE EASIEST DIFFICULTY WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOINGjeeze charles don't need to yell
01:09:601 - This slider needs to end at 01:11:101done
01:26:101 - Remove new combodone
01:26:529 - ^^done
01:46:244 - Add a circle?added
02:18:172 - I can tell by some of the pixels that you're copypastainglike that's never been done by anyone ever?
02:18:172 - Also, make this end at 02:19:672fixed
02:34:672 - Remove new combodone
02:35:101 - ^^done
okay wow charles, never seen you sound so mean and spiteful.

Lizzehb wrote:

Charles445 wrote:

General
Cut the mp3 if you're not mapping the whole song.I'll make someone do it later, it'll need an offset then.
I can cut the mp3

Download: SNoW - NightmaRe (Lizzehb) [iMuffin's Pitiful Soul].osu
Mara
Best map evah star
Vext_old
Kurowolfe
Hi there!
I went through all your maps, and here's what I can say about them:
kurohacker's mod(^^)
[iMuffin's Pitiful Soul]

I suggest that for an an Easy diff, the notes coincides with the regular beats of the song, rather than the vocals. It can be hard and confusing for a beginner (like me T.T).
Also, maybe you can utilize different hitsounds to give the song a more complete feel.

0:33:387 [2] - Maybe you can arrange this one like so -->
Looks better this way, IMO.
0:53:958 [spinner] - It's a bit too short, and the kiai time starting in the middle of it is kinda weird. Maybe just put notes here instead?
1:04:887 [1] - Delete new combo here, and....
1:05:958 [2] - Start a new one here instead.
1:15:387 [4&5] - Move one grid left (grid setting 3).
1:19:458 [1] - Remove the reverse, since it's hard to match the vocal's fast "anata no" without making this section hard.
1:23:101 [spinner] - Assuming that you're matching the vocal, lengthen the slider and make it start at 1:22:887 instead.
1:26:529 [1] - Maybe add a finish here?
1:32:529 [2] - Move one grid up.
1:37:887 [3] - I'm not sure if you're matching the drums or the vocals here, but I think you should shorten the slider to end at 1:38:101 instead.
1:44:529 [2&3] - Align both with [1].
1:46:458 [2] - Move one grid left (grid setting 4).
1:47:315 [spinner] - I suggest that you shorten the spinner to end at 1:50:101 instead. Also, maybe add a finish here?
1:54:172 [spinner] - Same here, let it end at 1:56:958 instead.
1:59:958 [2] - Shorten the slider so that it ends at 2:00:387 instead.
2:04:672 [1] - It'll sound better if you lenghthen the slider and make it start at 2:04:458 instead, to go with the vocal's "Ippun".
2:19:672 - Maybe add a circle here, to match with the vocal's "anata KA".
2:29:744 [5, 1-3] - Move one grid down (grid setting 3).
2:34:244 [1-3] - Move 3 grids up.

[Cursed Flowers]

Same advice regarding hitsounds here.

0:10:244 [1] - Delete new combo here, and...
0:10:672 [2] - .... Start a new one here.
0:14:101 - I suggest adding a circle here and another one two 1/2 beats later, to go with the drums.
0:33:815 [2] - Remove one reverse here.
0:38:529 [5] - Start a new combo here.
0:39:387 [1] - Delete new combo here.
0:39:387 [1-4] - The spacing between notes here are too far, try rearranging them.
0:59:101 [2] - The slider looks a bit weird here, try a different shape.
1:09:387 [1] - Delete new combo here, and....
1:09:815 [2] - ... Start a new one here instead.
1:47:528 - I suggest you add a circle here.
1:59:101 [3&4] - Try changing them so that they look like this -->
2:06:387 [4&5] - Try changing them like this -->
2:07:672 [6] - Spacing too far between this one and [5].
2:20:744 [1&2] - Try changing them like this -->http://puu.sh/1fz3

[Midnight Revenge]

Same advice regarding hitsounds here.

0:14:529 - Add a circle here, to go with the drums.
0:38:101 [4] - Move one grid up and one grid left (grid setting 3).
0:38:744 [5] - Start a new combo here.
0:45:601 [5] - Start a new combo here. Also, remove one reverse here and...
0:46:029 - Add a circle here.
0:54:172 [7] - Start a new combo here.
1:12:172 [8] - Same here.
1:34:887 [7] - Same here.
1:35:744 [10] - Same here.
1:48:601 [5] - Same here.
2:11:315 [1] - Remove one reverse here, and...
2:11:744 - Add a circle here.
2:20:101 [7] - Start a new combo here.
2:25:458 - Maybe add a circle here?
2:28:029 [1] - Same as 2:11:315; remove one reverse here and....
2:28:458 - Add a circle here.
2:30:172 [8] - Start a new combo here.

[SapphireGhost's Wallowing Sin]

0:12:601 [6] - Add a whistle here?
0:38:744 [1-3] - Maybe add claps here too, to go with the earlier beats.
1:59:315 [5] - Start a new combo here.

I love the names of the maps, and the song itself, so one star for you~
All the best with this song! :)


Charles445
I was just messing with you muffin :P
iMuffin
updates and such, hits sounds also GET OUTTA MY HEAD CHARLES!!

Download: SNoW - NightmaRe (Lizzehb) [iMuffin's Pitiful Soul].osu
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