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1. 00:03:886 (5,6) - Let's start here. What's the purpose of these notes snapped at 1/4? The rhythm here played somehow awkward because there's no need of placing 1/4 circles while leaving them with no notes would play quite better here.
2. 00:32:786 (7,1) - Spacing here was totally confusing due the jump doesn't invite players to distinguish if (1) is napped to 1/2 or 1/4. Besides, considering how the last pattern was built this 1/2 pattern confuses the rhythm here. A simply solve for this section would be increasing the spacing which would fit particularly good.
3. 00:51:186 (1,2,3,4,5) - This placement is rather messy in comparison with the previous fancy and well-flow pattern 00:49:186 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - made just before. I do believe re-placing these 00:51:186 (1,2,3,4) - with a shorter distance would fit nicely here.
   00:55:586 (3,4,5) - The jump is supposed to be on the slider (4) not onto (5) just accordingly how this section emphasized the vocals desu.
4. 01:01:186 (7,8) - 01:10:886 - Uhh... Quite awkward rhythm to play because not even vocals or the instruments are highlighted here so holding a 1/2 slider here plays weird. It would be better if the slider started at the red tick to develop a more suitable rhythm for this section.
5. 01:07:186 (5,6) - Why the jump? Rhythmically talking, the song doesn't support the circle at the blue tick as strong as the slider so there's no need of forcing a quite high 1/4 jump on this section.

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Just dropping my opinion. May be useful, may not. But I would to know some things of the rhythm which worries me a bit.

First at all, I want to provide I've tested the last difficulty, not in the editor but playing it in real life.

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1. 00:03:886 (5,6) - Let's start here. What's the purpose of these notes snapped at 1/4? The rhythm here played somehow awkward because there's no need of placing 1/4 circles while leaving them with no notes would play quite better here. Those circles literally follow the instruments :\
2. 00:32:786 (7,1) - Spacing here was totally confusing due the jump doesn't invite players to distinguish if (1) is napped to 1/2 or 1/4. Besides, considering how the last pattern was built this 1/2 pattern confuses the rhythm here. A simply solve for this section would be increasing the spacing which would fit particularly good. You are right, I did feel it a bit, I wasn't sure where to place it, but I did increase the spacing for now.
3. 00:51:186 (1,2,3,4,5) - This placement is rather messy in comparison with the previous fancy and well-flow pattern 00:49:186 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - made just before. I do believe re-placing these 00:51:186 (1,2,3,4) - with a shorter distance would fit nicely here. It's just fine imo, escalating triangles, perhaps it looks a bit odd but it plays really well.
   00:55:586 (3,4,5) - The jump is supposed to be on the slider (4) not onto (5) just accordingly how this section emphasized the vocals desu. How come? 5 is held and is much stronger, 4 builds it up./b]
4. 01:01:186 (7,8) - 01:10:886 - Uhh... Quite awkward rhythm to play because not even vocals or the instruments are highlighted here so holding a 1/2 slider here plays weird. It would be better if the slider started at the red tick to develop a more suitable rhythm for this section. Okay, as this rhythm may actually play awkwardly for various people, it is honest to the beats. However, I did try to ignore those and make something different, and ended up having something which I really like and other people will most likely like too!
5. 01:07:186 (5,6) - Why the jump? Rhythmically talking, the song doesn't support the circle at the blue tick as strong as the slider so there's no need of forcing a quite high 1/4 jump on this section. [b]Violin, at the same time it makes the whole pattern look really well, and it is not that hard as it might look.

Good luck! I do disagree with the how the kiai section is mapped at 1/4 mostly when the music doesn't support 1/4 beats as this difficulty tries to do. It's consistent, yeah. But that shouldn't be a reason of making such as a hard difficulty to read and play when you already have a good mapped insane over there. You can poke me if you need mod in the easiest diff too.

1st screen before I mod / 2nd after last fix

1. 00:20:186 - Why a normal-clap here when you use soft-whistle before ?

1. 01:02:686 - 01:17:686 - useless green lines, they don't affect anything! D:<
2. 00:04:186 (3) - and 00:08:986 (1) - missing whistles on tail? because they feel inconsistent with the other sliders.
3. 00:24:986 (1) - rotate this by -11° so the tail doesn't overlap with prev object
4. 00:58:386 (1) - conisder splitting this, because of the syllabels? I don't really understand anything, but sounds to me like 00:59:186 - is seperate from the rest; might be mistaken. ;w;

1. hitsounds in the beginning sound inconsistent to me. .o. mind explaining?
2. 00:12:186 - to 00:24:786 - eh, this part feels a little off, imo. Kinda looks like you couldn't decide what you wanted to map here, I really don't know what to make of it. >: (some strong beats are unmapped while weaker ones are, sometimes fine when there's the violin, but then you ignore the violin at other parts..) Idk, maybe you can explain that to me or if you're unsure what to do we can go talk about this part irc and maybe do some changes?
3. there also are some rhythms that are still pretty dense like from 00:43:586 (4) - to 00:47:386 (1) - for example. Compared to Easy this is, imo(!), a little too much, because you're going from constant 2/1 and 1/1 in E to 1/2 "spam" in N. You could reduce density in parts like this, example http://puu.sh/nRyIe.jpg + http://puu.sh/nRyOH.jpg
   still following the rhythm, but it's a little less to click
4. 00:47:786 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - ye, similar here. You could just replace 00:49:386 (1,2,3) - with 3 circles, that's a little easier for low skilled players because thes don't have to letgo-click-letgo-click-letgo-etc
5. 00:52:186 (1) - to 00:55:986 (3) - http://puu.sh/nRzkm.jpg for same reasons
6. 01:00:786 (4) - missing NC here, because first obj after downbeat
7. 01:03:586 (1) - to 01:07:986 (1) - basically same as in first Kiai. http://puu.sh/nRzAY.jpg
8. 01:08:786 (2,3,1) - feels a little off to have weaker beat clickable after downbeat when the latter one is only a sliderend, maybe try this instead: http://puu.sh/nRzIE.jpg
9. 01:17:386 (1,1) - consider ctrl+g rhythm because stronger beat becomes clickable then. also 01:20:986 (1,2) - is basically the same and you have it clickable there, so would be better, imo

1. 00:01:986 - 00:02:386 - why green lines here. öö

Squirrel wrote:

Aloha, as promiseddd.~~

Easy

1. 01:02:686 - 01:17:686 - useless green lines, they don't affect anything! D:< Ugh yeah, hitsound copier, removed anyway.
2. 00:04:186 (3) - and 00:08:986 (1) - missing whistles on tail? because they feel inconsistent with the other sliders. Not really, there's nothing to hitsound whistles for, the hitsounds are copied from the higher diff.
3. 00:24:986 (1) - rotate this by -11° so the tail doesn't overlap with prev object But it's fine? Most of the reverse arrow is seen anyway.
4. 00:58:386 (1) - conisder splitting this, because of the syllabels? I don't really understand anything, but sounds to me like 00:59:186 - is seperate from the rest; might be mistaken. ;w; I would! However, having an other 1/2 slider just feels really spammy with 00:56:786 (3,4) -, so I think a long slider is fine anyway.

I didn't check the hitsounds yet, but some parts sound weird to me, like 00:27:386 (3) - 00:30:586 (3) - for example, where the tails are hitsounded, but the heads aren't. That moves the focus on the tails, which is a little weird while playing, because well sliderend. >: But I suck with hitsounds so I'll get back to that eventually. I removed those claps now, but you see, it's pretty much hard to map claps at this part since the strong beats are on the red ticks and eghh it makes everything so awkward, but I guess just removing those claps is fine.

Normal

1. hitsounds in the beginning sound inconsistent to me. .o. mind explaining? Yeah, hitsounds are aimed to make sense with the song rather than be dropped consistenly.
2. 00:12:186 - to 00:24:786 - eh, this part feels a little off, imo. Kinda looks like you couldn't decide what you wanted to map here, I really don't know what to make of it. >: (some strong beats are unmapped while weaker ones are, sometimes fine when there's the violin, but then you ignore the violin at other parts..) Idk, maybe you can explain that to me or if you're unsure what to do we can go talk about this part irc and maybe do some changes? If you see it as a huge problem I wouldn't mind chaning some stuff, it seems pretty cool for me, I mapped what felt right at the moment and it came out pretty well, I do switch between instruments but when they're all so intense I see no reason to not do so.
3. there also are some rhythms that are still pretty dense like from 00:43:586 (4) - to 00:47:386 (1) - for example. Compared to Easy this is, imo(!), a little too much, because you're going from constant 2/1 and 1/1 in E to 1/2 "spam" in N. You could reduce density in parts like this, example http://puu.sh/nRyIe.jpg + http://puu.sh/nRyOH.jpg
   still following the rhythm, but it's a little less to click The reason I mapped the Easy diff is so I won't have to change those, the lower diffs can't really map themselves to the many intense instruments, that's why I map mostly vocals there, the pre kiai section is intensive with vocals, hence the dense rhythm, it goes really well with the song and I'd like to keep that.
4. 00:47:786 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - ye, similar here. You could just replace 00:49:386 (1,2,3) - with 3 circles, that's a little easier for low skilled players because thes don't have to letgo-click-letgo-click-letgo-etc But it's pretty straight-forward with the drums, mapping just 1/1 would be not as nice as all of the drums.
5. 00:52:186 (1) - to 00:55:986 (3) - http://puu.sh/nRzkm.jpg for same reasons 1.5 beat gaps are even worse in easier difficulties, makes rhythm awkward, yeah it's a bit dense but it's the kiai and there's an easier diff.
6. 01:00:786 (4) - missing NC here, because first obj after downbeat Yeah, but then I'll end up having 2 short combos which is not necessary, slightly longer combo of same consistent length should be okay.
7. 01:03:586 (1) - to 01:07:986 (1) - basically same as in first Kiai. http://puu.sh/nRzAY.jpg I'll have to decline this for same reasons above, awkward beat gap and my opinion on this difficulty overall.
8. 01:08:786 (2,3,1) - feels a little off to have weaker beat clickable after downbeat when the latter one is only a sliderend, maybe try this instead: http://puu.sh/nRzIE.jpg I agree it does feel a bit odd, however your rhythm is offputting as it suddenly does not follow the vocals (which i did for the whole kiai)
9. 01:17:386 (1,1) - consider ctrl+g rhythm because stronger beat becomes clickable then. also 01:20:986 (1,2) - is basically the same and you have it clickable there, so would be better, imo I see your point, however - the first role of the slider is to follow the vocals and that weird held note at the background. If I could 3/4 on this dif I would for sure, 1/2 lands on nothing and an other 1/1 ignores a drum, it just feels a bit odd for me at the very least and I prefer current rhythm as it plays really well even though the slider lands on a downbeat.

Advanced

1. 00:01:986 - 00:02:386 - why green lines here. öö

actually, got quite late here, gotta get some sleep, then going to continue this tomorrow. orz (I'm not done with Adv yet) Copied hitsounds and volumes from higher diffs >.>

Maakkeli wrote:

hi avishay i'm here because i'm here now and it doesn't matter
i'm just gonna mod dat extra diff and mostly rythm from there and idk maybe something random cause i'm a homo moose

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I. 00:01:586 (1,1,1) - I don't personally like this nc spam here but whatevs
II. 00:04:186 (1,2) - You could've placed a triple here. There are the sounds for it in the song. And it seems kinda inconsistent to me when you decide to skip some triples and place some At first I tried to follow everything here, but it just felt really poor, vocals felt out of place and it was overall odd, having it this way allows me to put pressure on the vocals only and nothing in between, just like I could make 00:07:786 (3,4,5,6) - a single stream, but it'd ruin the vocals.
III. 00:05:586 (1) - I know why you placed this like this but it still feels super awkward to me when you end this on a stron sound thing. Like a triple thing could be cool. Blame vocals, a triplet doesn't work that well, no held effect and note on blue tick is helle weak.
IV. 00:12:986 (1) - This could be 2 circles since the violin does things But I'm sure you can agree with me that 00:13:186 (2,3,4) - is much stronger and intesive, right? Regardless, so many consecutive circles would make it really awkward in my opinion.
V. 00:14:586 (1) - I'd like this sliderend to be clickable since it lands on a snare. The only 1/2 slider that would work in this part is probably those that you place every 2 measures 00:15:386 (1) - these
VI. 00:16:986 (1) - This 1/2 slider too is kinda awkward since the violin is still going full manmode
VII. 00:17:786 (1) - 1/4 slider and then start a triple at the red tick
VIII. 00:18:586 (1) - Two circles would fit better imo
IX. 00:20:786 (1) - This really breaks the consistency and doesn't really seem to fit the song
X. 00:23:986 (6) - Ending this slider on that snare is really unfitting. Also what's up with the hitsounds it's literally the same snare
XI. 00:24:986 (1) - If you're a MAN you map the guitar... jk don't do it
XII. 00:26:186 (6) - remove this clap there is no snare here
XIII. 00:27:786 (6) - wow here too m8. Ok it's in all of these pls remove Those claps go really well with the song, epsecially on higher diffs, it's a fact.
XIV. 00:32:786 (7,1,2) - I'm just as much of a sucker for consistency as Bonsai Yeah but.. the song is not consitent. I am forced to do that.
XV. 00:35:586 (2,3,4,5) - You just gave all of these a clap and not a single one of them is a snare lol. 00:35:386 (1) - This slider has 2 snares and 00:35:586 (2,3,4,5) - are some tom hits. So your emphasis here is kinda upside down. Imo snares should have big spacing and should be harder to hit than those tom hits To be fair, I don't really know too much of those stuff (a strong beat is a strong beat), I map and hitsound accordingly to the playability and such, variation in the hitsounds is cool and fun to use, the emphasization comes from the slider with the jump into the stream, so it's cool.
XVI. 00:35:986 (1,1) - The guitar does a triple thing so idk if you wanna add that
XVII. 00:40:386 (2) - I'm sad for that snare
XVIII. 00:54:186 (3) - You know stuff like this kinda triggers me when you end sliders on kicks since drums are cool I literally did it throughout the map, the song does not allow me to not do this, it has drums here and there, white ticks, red ticks, blue ticks, if I want to have proper playable rhythm I have to do it this way.
XIX. 00:59:986 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Mapping vocals here is kinda ehh imo. Takes all the hype away from this kiai imo But it's following the instruments too?
XX. 01:02:386 (4) - I feel like this sliderend should be clickable. And you could get the nc on the downbeat then too Yeah but then the slider is just a 1/2 slider and I am not following the vocals.
XXI. 01:02:886 (3,4,5) - These are not snares anymore I honsetly don't know what does that mean in terms of hitsounds, it sounds and plays well nontheless.
XXII. 01:04:386 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Yea i think the emphasis here is kinda upside down Why? It's getting more intense.
XXIII. 01:07:986 (1) - You know what i'm gonna say
imo you could work on some rythms. Especially places like 00:23:986 (6) - cause snares
otherwise this seems pretty cool. I like it

Kibbleru wrote:

u should use at least tickrate 2 for this type of style OH, right, changed in all diffs.

ex
00:08:586 (8) - repeat is so hard to see >< can u increase sv for this slider I guess incresaing the SV could work too, should be okay now.
00:54:186 (3,4,5) - flow is kinda sharp here, and if ur going to map like this, i think you should avoid things that are jittery to play. To be honest I use sharp flow in more places, it goes really well with the vocals. e.g. 00:53:386 (7,1) - 01:01:586 (9,1) - The reasoning for the movement from 3->4 is the vocals obv but the movement from 4->5 is quite fun and not as terrible as it might seem in the editor, here's how it actually plays http://puu.sh/o593N/f25cd66713.jpg (excuse my terrible paint skills lol)
01:04:386 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - idk what to really say about this.. dont u think the spacing gets a little harsh at the end lol Not really, it's quite smooth, everyone who played it found it just fine Maybe it's a bit scary on the editor.
01:07:186 (5,6) - why is this spaced so big? Mostly because of the sudden strong violin (and because it looks really well!), unlike 01:09:686 (9,1) - which starts really low


insane
00:32:986 (1,2,3,4) - can u not do something like this lol, too misleading and no manual stack on 00:32:986 (1,2) - doesn't help cuz it all looks the same in game Not really sure what to do here then, everything else is even more overdone or awful.
01:03:986 (3,4,5) - u need more spacing here, looks too similar to 01:04:586 (1,2,3,4) - NC is the best I can offer, the pattern is not that hard to distinguish and you can hear the intensity change too.
01:10:686 (6,7,8) - the stack makes the movement super jittery, can u either space them all out or stack them all Yeah I agree. BUT GOD DAMNIT everything else just doesn't work, 01:10:786 (7) - is clearly the strongest drum, the play here should be this way 01:10:386 (5,6,7) - is supposed to play like a triplet on sliderend but then it gets mixed with a double here 01:10:786 (7,8) -, honestly blame the song, I tried placing the slider at 1/2 but it makes the whole pattern sound awful. I do think lieaving it like this is the wise choice too, as the pattern is well constructed otherwise.

hard
00:27:686 (4) - unecessary triplets here imo I used those triplets to fill in some of the rhythm, since the vocals halt there, unlike 00:29:186 (3) - and 00:32:586 (3) -
00:30:886 (4) - ^
why does hard diff have lower CS than advanced? follow something linear pls? Yeah okay, I explained it previously and I will again, Hard is big spacing oriented, means I focus on big movements rather than aim, hence the forgiving circle size. For example - 00:49:186 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - on Hard, compared to 00:49:186 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - on Insane, I hope it's understandable.
also i think its better to rename advanced > hard and hard > hyper Eghh, could be fine but I don't really want to user Hyper here, seems unfitting.

normal
00:43:586 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - can u insert a 1/1 break somewhere here? 1/2 chain a bit too long imo I tried, again and again, but the vocals are just intense and non-stop here, it just feels wrong to cut it somewhere, 00:44:986 (3) - was 1/2 at first but I made it easier with a 1/1, maybe a halt at 00:46:786 (4) - would work but that's the endof the pattern and there's a 1/1 break right afterwards, so I think it's best to keep it as it is.

easy
can u not use 1/2s here? >< otherwise it becomes more like a normal [b]That's unavoidable :< Shift between strong beats and vocals is on 1/2, I can't avoid that completely otherwise it's just terrible, there's still quite a gap between this and Normal.[/b

2016-04-04 03:17 Kibbleru: as for 00:32:986 (1,2) - in insane
2016-04-04 03:17 Kibbleru: u can try swapping the nc maybe
2016-04-04 03:17 Kibbleru: itll help a bit It was like that at the origin, some people said it should be this way and some this way, I guess I'll NC it.
2016-04-04 03:17 Kibbleru: 01:04:386 (5) - maybe nc on here too? It's just a NC, so okay.
2016-04-04 03:17 Kibbleru: to indicate start of stream
2016-04-04 03:19 Kibbleru: on easy 01:09:386 (3) - i dont think u need to use 1/2 here If I move it to the red tick then it'll be even worse, I did follow all the strong vocals I could on this kiai, which was my aim from the beginning, so it wouldn't be right.
2016-04-04 03:19 Kibbleru: 01:09:386 - doesn' really land on any percussion
2016-04-04 03:20 Kibbleru: so its rather a weak beat
2016-04-04 03:20 Kibbleru: 01:03:586 (3) - consider adding repeat If I do that, I'd have to map everything between 01:03:586 (3,1) -, otherwise it's awkward, I intentionally ignored the vocals between the kiais, it's cool.

ztrot wrote:

Sorry about this but I'm not sure this is ready quite yet.

[DiFf_(k)NAME]
I see what you are doing with this map and I'm wanting to start off by saying the map isn't bad but there are a lot of inconsistent spacing that could be made consistent while still keeping your vision in tact.
01:04:386 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - prime example currently the spacing is all over the place I figure you are trying to match the pitch change, but there is a far more consistent approach to this, you can take 1 2 3 and make them all one consistent spacing and on 4 (where the pitch actually changes you could increase the spacing a bit more like in this screenshot https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4870661 I suggest you take a bit more time on the final diff and look through it fully as these happen a bit more than once. I would also like to see some discussion about possible consistent fixes from the community and as to why you might feel this is okay. overall the set isn't bad timing is good and all the other stuff checks out but trust me someone is going to point out these flaws in spacing so it is better to get it fixed now than wait to have it DQ'ed in the last day. If you have questions feel free to contact me.

1. 01:07:486 (6,7) - I slightlyd increase the spacing here to 1.3, but 1.5 would simple be overkill with the jump from 01:07:186 (5) -

Avishay wrote:

Okay! I've decided to get some more opinions from high rank players on the highest diff, therefore I'll pop the bubble myself, I'll post screenshots and logs here.