Pierce The Veil - Bulls in the Bronx

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Avena
Didn't actually apply anything, lost the reponse but I can explain ingame if it's important for u.
Tyvm for the effort.
Senzzen
00:01:995 (2) -00:04:995 (2) - 00:07:995 (2) - mb change these sliders from 1/4 to 1/2 ,i think it fits better
00:03:495 (2) - why using another pattern that doesn't fit well ?since there is the sound of the guitar still playing at 00:03:964 while there is no notes in the map i recommand changing this pattern to the same as the others
00:36:214 (1) - I don't think placing a new combo here isn't very appropriate since it's a 1/4 beat
00:30:589 (2,3,4) - i don't think a triplet is very appropriate here

Sorry but i can't find anything else ,great map overall ,mb some overmapping in extreme diff but it's fine :D
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Senzzen wrote:

00:30:589 (2,3,4) - i don't think a triplet is very appropriate here //why

Sorry but i can't find anything else ,great map overall ,mb some overmapping in extreme diff but it's fine :D
Topic Starter
Avena
I map in such way to make things feel different and not the exact same, also it plays just fine.
Senzzen

HB24 wrote:

Senzzen wrote:

00:30:589 (2,3,4) - i don't think a triplet is very appropriate here //why

Sorry but i can't find anything else ,great map overall ,mb some overmapping in extreme diff but it's fine :D
It's not really a problem , i think it's just that it kinda break the slider flow by putting a triplet instead of a slider^^
jas
@pishi

00:06:214 (1,2,3) - shouldnt this be like 00:03:214 (1,2,3) - and the others because of repeating patterns and aesthetics? there isnt a change in the song so why should this one be different? I also feel like cs4 would be better xd
Okoratu
according to one of pishi's latest videos his diff should be cs 4
00:25:339 (1,2,3,4,1) - plays lol regardless of cs in context with what you did before
00:34:714 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - concept is clear but overall it's p[retty lame because it doesnt really require any scaling effort it jsut looks scaling while doing not much


priti
00:19:057 (4,5) - 00:20:182 (3,4) - 00:21:495 (2,3) - these are cancer because you switch between them too much and each of them is more and more awkward
01:07:339 (5) - angle isnt aesthetically nice to look at maybe go for http://i.imgur.com/APmYttZ.png
03:25:339 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - 03:30:776 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - these are unreadable even after multiple tries unless you looked at what they are in edit because the 1/4 is visually identical otherwise rn it's like haha guess lols

anime
-Mo-
I will check this tomorrow or the day after. Sorry for the wait.
pishifat

zev wrote:

[notice]pishifat

00:03:214 (1) - pretty sure this timing point is a duplicate
02:55:339 (3) - ^ hey
02:55:714 (4) - ^^
02:57:401 (2) - ^^^ hey, a whole chain duplicates, i think you wanted to lower volume but you decided to use soft samples in the end or somth[/notice
but like they dont even do anything why do they matter


pishi's extra
00:36:214 (1) - I don't think placing a new combo here isn't very appropriate since it's a 1/4 beat uses same idea as all white tick ncs before this:(

fixed craezy and oko things
http://puu.sh/xntRE/f8e5e7aa93.osu

i should have waited for mo
Topic Starter
Avena
fidxt everything!!!
I don't get it, should pishifat's diff be cs4 or not?
Okoratu
according to his own video, yes but im mainly just poking fun at it for a bit lol
Rizia
[Extreme]
  1. 00:31:714 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - how about some sv change pattern like 0.7->0.8->0.9....etc, seem not bad here
  2. 01:58:339 (1,1) - i would prefer move 01:58:714 (1) - head stack under 01:58:339 (1) - head instead of tail, it a bit easy to messed up on reading
  3. 02:58:339 (4) - move a bit farther and change direction will get more interesting like the pic below


tbd i think
Topic Starter
Avena
fixed everything ty
-Mo-
So we did some group modding thing in our subdivision, so there's a mix of Okorin's, Nozhomi's, Wafu's, and my points. Most of it is copy-pasted so order/phrasing might be weird.

General
- A better OD spread for the upper diffs may be better, since some of us felt the transition from Hard to Insane in terms of OD was quite a jump. The top diff could might as well be OD9 and pishi's OD8.5 if you wanted to be.

Extreme
- 00:19:901 (2,3,4) - Oko said these sort of 1/4s would've been fine spaced, just that what you had previously was kind of extreme.
- 00:09:214 (1,2) - I guess this spacing is readable at this point but feels kinda weird that this is the only pattern in the section that uses the larger spacing. Even 00:07:714 (1,2) - still feels kind of minimal in comparison. 00:06:214 (1,2) - could be buffed.
- 00:27:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This feels pretty cramped. Easy fix would be to move everything from the second combo over to the right a bit more.
- 01:10:620 (6,1) - 00:25:901 (2,3) - 03:04:620 (5) - Theres should be custom stacked according to your style.
- 03:31:339 (6,7,1) - This this excessively large.
- 01:00:495 (2) - I think the way the 1/4 jump stuff is set up, this should be closer to 1 rather than 1-2-3 be equal.
- 01:15:214 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - spacing could be decreasing instead of equal to map downwards pitch in a more obvious way
- 00:23:650 (5) - AIMod lol
- 02:57:214 (1,2,3,4) - Kinda feel like it should be buffed a bit more since they're sliders and easier to aim anyway
- 03:22:714 - feels weird to have a increased SV and a so small one after at 03:34:714 - , the intensity of the song don't offer a such variation

pishi's Extra
- 01:40:714 (1) - you could do normal sliderwhistle on this one i think it'd sound cool
- 00:41:089 (2) - I don't understand the point of that extended, since there's a lot of similar place on the kiai where other could be placed.
- 03:29:089 - Random whistle on the tail, could be removed
- 03:45:214 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I misread these in the playtest. Would choose something not as repetitive looking since the pitch of each note is different anyway. Triangle pattern might make the 1/3 more obvious

HB's Insane
- 00:52:714 (1) - I want to say increase spacing for that final sound
- 01:55:339 (4) - Linear bend just seems to be random
- 02:05:089 (2,3) - I don't like how this 1/3 is mapped either, just comes out suddenly. It felt smoother in the upper diffs
- 02:52:714 (7) - 02:54:214 (2) - Move the NCs here
- 00:40:714 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - 00:48:964 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - stuff like this could change direction more often
- 01:02:839 (1,2) - aesthetically angle is unappealing. could just rotate a bunch more to the right
- 01:15:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - pitch decrease pattenr space increase, would probably work better if spacing decreased instead
- 01:40:714 (1) - The slider shape looks odd and out of place with the rest of the map.
- 02:14:276 (4) - reverse arrow is covered, plus the whether something is reversing twice or just once isnt too obvious in this section. i think just having all reverse sliders in it reverse once would make the section a ton easier to interpret
- 02:53:464 (9,1) - This overlap actually just hinders readability for no reason to me
- 02:57:214 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Would probably find a way to emphasise these more since they feel too similar to the previous jumps
- 03:22:432 (6) - Seem like an overmap, works better to emphasise the drums to remove this
- 03:45:214 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I almost misread these again, Could extend another tick like pishi's, But I might be bad so

Aia's Hard
- 00:02:276 (3) - We only see this kind of shape once in the intro section and then it's not used again, would be nice to see more consistency either by adding more of these or removing this one.
- 00:30:964 (4,5,1) - Spacing becomes inconsistent because of the SV change
- 01:09:214 (3) - I wanna say NC
- 01:14:464 (4) - Splitting the repeater slider would probably play better
- 00:38:276 (2,3) - Actually, can't really tell if he's trying to prioritise guitar or vocals in the chorus, This sounds like it's following guitar, and the louder vocal beat lands on the slider end, But then 00:43:714 (1,2,3) this seems more like it's following vocals
- Same about 01:23:276 (2) - (I think these are the only ones where he actually ditches out the guitar).
- 00:45:589 (1) - Seems like unecessary NC too for what it's worth
- 01:58:714 - that this part is so dense in comparison to like kiai or the part just before it is bugging me a bit. i think it would represent music better to drop density noticably instead of continuing on like it's the same
- 02:06:776 (3,4) - isnt even snapped straightforwardly
- 01:31:339 (1) - 03:13:339 (1) - Probably better as a 1/1 reverse to match with the guitar.
- 02:44:464 (1,2,3,4) - spacing and readability
- 03:44:089 (2,3,4) - when using back forth stuff mapper used to do custom stack stuf, seems like a place where mapper should
- 03:28:339 (6,7,1) - spacing and order of things seems messy
- 03:22:714 (1) - This just looks not very good in my opinion

The main issues we had with this diff are that the rhythm used in the kiai isn't clear on whether the guitar or the vocals isn't being emphasised, and the arrangements on the playfield makes the map feel the same through most of the difficulty when the song is pretty varied.

NCs through this diff also seemed messy in places, where 00:45:589 (1) - 01:18:964 (1) - don't feel necessary, whereas 01:52:714 (3) - seem to be missing.

Normal
- i am kind of unsure if the lowest diff is ok for being the lowest diff of the set because of 03:09:214 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - may need simplifications. (I don't really like that triple 1/2 stack personally)
- also mapping 03:46:714 - is worse than just ending the map there
- 01:47:464 (2) - Would shorten this to the white tick for simplification
- 03:45:214 (4) - And probably NC to highlight irregular rhythm and the music change

We think this diff should work as the bottom diff if some of the red tick rhythms are nerfed a bit.

Feel free to ask us to clarify anything if need be since the way we did this makes the post kind of messy.
pishifat
Topic Starter
Avena

-Mo- wrote:

So we did some group modding thing in our subdivision, so there's a mix of Okorin's, Nozhomi's, Wafu's, and my points. Most of it is copy-pasted so order/phrasing might be weird.

General
- A better OD spread for the upper diffs may be better, since some of us felt the transition from Hard to Insane in terms of OD was quite a jump. The top diff could might as well be OD9 and pishi's OD8.5 if you wanted to be.

Extreme
- 00:27:214 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This feels pretty cramped. Easy fix would be to move everything from the second combo over to the right a bit more. Doesn't seem to be such a serious concern, but fixed anyways
- 01:10:620 (6,1) - 00:25:901 (2,3) - 03:04:620 (5) - Theres should be custom stacked according to your style. Didn't fix the last one, I don't know why but it feels like it should stay as it is.
- 01:15:214 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - spacing could be decreasing instead of equal to map downwards pitch in a more obvious way This pattern reflects it perfectly in my opinion, no actual need for a spacing change here.
- 03:22:714 - feels weird to have a increased SV and a so small one after at 03:34:714 - , the intensity of the song don't offer a such variation I have no idea what this sentence even means


HB's Insane
- 03:45:214 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I almost misread these again, Could extend another tick like pishi's, But I might be bad so Probably, it's pretty much fine so it's unchanged.

Feel free to ask us to clarify anything if need be since the way we did this makes the post kind of messy.
Fixed everything that is deleted.
Applied for HB and Aia because they are inactive.
-Mo-
Hard:
03:32:839 (6) - Spacing

Normal:
00:42:964 (4,5,1,2,3) - Nerf
00:58:151 (4,5) -
01:46:714 - Clicking hitsounds

Extreme -> OD9
Topic Starter
Avena
thank
Okoratu
do you have permission to fix stuff on aia's diff?
Topic Starter
Avena

Okorin wrote:

do you have permission to fix stuff on aia's diff?
The rules claim that if a person is inactive for over a month and doesn't show any sign of life you can change for them
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