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Sebu 2017-07-27T20:03:06+00:00

SnivehNDraegonz wrote:
doubt i'll be able to mod this well lol

heptagon (should be the best shape, the octagon /s)
~ 00:16:057 (2) - think this should have a larger SV because it has a higher pitch
~ 00:18:643 (1) - ^
I think the difference 00:15:713 (2,2) - (basically every other slider) makes it justifiable as in comparison to the other ones it has higher sv. It also looks better this way

~ 00:21:402 (1) - feels weird to end on a higher pitch note imo
The reason behind this is to always keep the player "on their toes" so to speak, it acts as a reading challenge for the most part
this map is amazing +1

thank you

Gokateigo wrote:
tetragon
00:00:540 (3,4) - start the angle of 4 under the tail of 3, it looks better
did something

00:02:436 (5,6,7,8,1) - spacing should be higher here
agreed, made it all 1.0x
00:12:781 (1,2,3) - pretty strong beats and they're all stacked, why ?
kind of irregular rhythm, easier to read it stacked also no spacing can also be a way to emphasize
00:23:816 (1) - rotate by 180°, ctrl+g and do a perfect triangle with the tail of 3, the circle and the head of this one, looks better
it's already a perfect triangle, and I think it looks better without the rotations :<
00:30:540 (10) - it sounds like the sv should change here
don't feel like it's necessary with a sv change here on an insane diff
01:02:350 (10,1) - looks weird
01:03:040 (5,6) - ^
made some changes
01:06:316 (8,1) - eww, don't do that, it's a strong beat should be spaced + I'm not fan of the pattern
gotten a couple complaints about this now, so fine i changed up the order of the pattern afterwards
01:14:505 (6,7) - all this part flows pretty well but this breaks the flow without the reason
changed up this entire part

heptagon
00:03:643 (1,2) - stack this correctly
00:06:402 (1,2) - ^
00:09:161 (1,2) - ^
not quite sure what you mean by this, they are supposed to be stacked like this?

Hard to mod great map, gl

thanks~

walter85 wrote:
Hi! From my queue

[Tetragon]
00:02:436 (5,6,7,8,1) - This could be more good-looking, it looks handmade
fixed in previous mod

00:23:643 (4,1) - Here you're kinda ignoring an important sound on 00:23:988 - , I think something like slider-slider fits better in the rhythm instead of circle-slider-arrow
as this is an insane, i feel like this should be fine(especially since it's done with the exact same slider before it)

00:58:299 (1,2,3,4) - You're skipping a white tick later, there's a quite important sound there
01:03:816 (1,2,3,4) - same
initally i wanted to ignore this and just focus on the instrument on the first 4 notes, but i agree. put a note on both places

01:18:988 (1,2,3) - Maybe here you could keep the rotation pattern as before
this part was changed in previous mod

01:20:368 - to 01:31:402 - I think you should be more consnstent here with kicksliders overlaps. Try overlapping them by the same amount for visual consistency, stuff like this 01:23:126 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - doesn't look very good
made overlaps more consistent

01:31:402 - to 01:42:350 - I know that the song gets more intense here, but sapced 1/4 like these 01:32:781 (1,2,3) - Are usually reserved for higher insanes and extra, or for things below 160bpm i think. Imo they should be nerfed, they won't hurt sr too much anyway, it would drop down to something like 4.59
I dont feel like this is too hard for a diff like this

01:47:954 - Skipped a sound
01:49:333 - same here
there are more than this like 01:45:540 - , but thats cuz im only following the synth or whatever thats playing

[heptagon]
00:01:402 (1,2) - sv here should be inverted, following the previous logic, or at least be equal if you don't wanna under-emphasize the sound on the first slider
i was kind of questioning this myself too, as for an explanation of this 00:00:712 (1,1) - is following the high pitch sound, and since it changes
here 00:01:402 (1) - to a much crazier sound, the SV is increased, however im not sure if the last slider 00:01:574 (2) - is justifiable with just being less intense than the previous one and therefore can be as short as it is, at the same time as it "completes" this pattern 00:00:712 (1,1,2) - . therefore i won't change it right now, but if i have to, I'll change it to the same slider as the previous one.

00:24:333 (1,1,1) - These SV changes, unlike before, are unjustified, since the second slider is as strong as the other two. You should make it equal sv
I dont see why this would be unjustified. the sound on these are not the same? 00:24:333 (1,1) -

00:35:712 (5,6) - There are 1/8 sounds here. It's still ok like this, but it would be cool to add some 1/8 sliders maybe
keeping as is

00:47:264 - to 00:55:540 - sv here seems pretty random, sometimes you use fast sv on claps like 00:47:609 (1) -, sometimes slow like 00:48:299 (1) -. This is a pretty big inconsistency and you should fix it, either making clap sliders fast (recommended) or slow. You can't switch between them without justification
I wouldn't say they are random, as there is a pattern to them. first fast - second slow, this is to compensate for the overpowering sounds of 00:48:643 (1,1,1) - to make them stand out more. ofc this could be done in other ways, but I found this one fitting

01:20:368 - to 01:31:402 - Spacing between jumpstreams is very inconsistent. We can divide this in two smaller sections with two jumpstreams each. In the first one, the spacing you use is basically 1.1x > 0.4x > 0.8x > stack and 1.1x > 0.8x > longer stack, while in the second section it changes to 1.1x > stack > 0.8x > 0.4x and 1.1x > 0.4 > longer stack. Since these two mini-sections are literally the same, spacing shouldn't change so drastically. Variety can't be a justification, since it only applies for minor variations, not major ones like this. (i'm considering things like these 01:26:230 (1,2,3,4) - stacks for semplicity)
When considering jumpstreams, spacing isnt the only factor to what makes it difficult. if im gonna use the same logic we have: 2 sections with 2 jumpstreams-parts, A-1, A-2, B-1 and B-2 where A-1 = B-1 and so on. the difference between a-1 and b-1 is as u said; 1.1x > 0.4x > 0.8x > stack || 1.1x > stack > 0.8x > 0.4x. so the stack and the 0.4x changes. however all of these play at about the same difficulty(i could explain for every case, but to make it short lets use one). on A-2 you have this jump 01:23:385 (4,1) - where the player needs to "jump back" and then continue movement in the same direction as the previous stream. the spacing here is lower than on B-2 01:28:902 (4,1) - because this kind of movement is usually simpler, therefore the jump to the next stream is larger but spacing of it is lower, making it justifiable "variations" so to speak. hopefully i explained well enough..
01:31:402 - to kiai end: same concept as before but with more spacing
?

That's all! Hope it helps, good luck!

thanks for modding everyone!
(reminder for myself that i need to fix hitsounds for tetragon when i get home xd...)

Mismagius

9,268 posts

Joined July 2008

Mismagius 2017-07-31T12:04:21+00:00

hello, sorry for being late
giving a quick check in other diffs, but won't really be too nitpicky

[monogon]

00:02:609 (2) - i think i'd probably NC this for intuitiveness, with the red tick & different sound / rhythm break. you did this on 00:24:505 (1) - for a similar situation.
01:32:781 (3,4,5,1) - i'd really recommend making things less overlappy here, it's the lowest diff in the mapset
01:38:298 (3,4,5,1) - same as above, something like this would work better imo
01:47:954 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - i'm not sure if i get the idea of this section, but 01:43:126 (1,2,3) - is a triangle and 01:45:195 (1,2,3,4) - is a square. maybe position 01:50:712 (1) - in a way that makes the third combo a pentagon?

[digon]

00:54:161 (1) - i'd try to mess around with this slider until the endpoint is at x267 y229 so it stacks with 00:56:574 (3) - and makes a good blanket with 00:55:540 (1) -
01:00:368 (2,3,1) - i'd try to arrange this triangle doing something like placing 01:00:368 (2) - at x388 y244, 01:00:712 (3) - at x444 y376 and 01:01:057 (1) - at x298 y358. looks nicer & stacks with the sliderend
01:13:471 (1) - IMO arranging this slider to make something like this would look nicer

[trigon]

00:14:850 (3,4,5,6,1) - i think the usage of 1/2 antijumps in ar8 and awkward rhythms just doesn't work well for a diff that seems to be a light insane. i'd rather use constant spacing here or something
00:38:977 - unsnapped timing section
00:45:195 (4,5,6,7) - ok for this one i DEFINITELY clicked them as 1/4s, this is just really hard to sightread for someone playing a 3* diff
01:00:368 (4) - i'd personally remove the last 2 repeats from this for rhythm simplification & making this more sightreadable
01:05:884 (4) - ^
01:07:781 (1,1) - pretty much impossible to read at ar8 for the players this diff is designed for. personally i'd just stack 01:07:781 (1) - at x272 y136
01:42:092 (4,5,6,1) - not sure about the rankability of this, (1)'s path is pretty much blocked by the triple for a long time

[tetragon]

00:11:402 (1,2,3) - aww, why the awkward overlapping here, you seemed to utilize larger spacing in the other 1/4 slider jumps
00:34:764 (7) - i said i wasn't gonna be nitpicky but move this note 2px up to make this triple straight
01:03:471 (1,2) - i'd apply normal hitsound soundset to these two
01:46:574 (1,2) - i think these two should be more spaced between them, really thought this was 1/4 at first

[pentagon]

00:59:161 (5,6,7) - because of the spacing i really couldn't predict that (5) had two repeats. i'd try to get (6,7) closer to it so it keeps a relation of continuity
01:03:126 (8) - moving (8) to x428 y224 would look nicer imo

[hexagon]

00:06:919 (3) - move 1px down for perfect stacking :^)
01:08:565 (8) - unsnapped

really nice diff, loved this one

[heptagon]

00:05:368 (1,2) - didn't really understand this at first, i'd probably move these down 2px so it's at least clear this is a double and not a slider or something
00:22:005 (4) - stack perfectly with (1)'s sliderend pls i hate saying this but it just triggers me
00:33:816 (1) - NC here seems a bit odd, may just be me though
00:34:678 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - i'd probably space these combos farther away from each other, something like this should work well enough to make it better readable
00:37:954 (2) - 1px right SORRY I'LL STOP
00:39:850 (1) - not sure about this sliderend covering a strong beat, maybe make it a 1/4 slider & a note?
00:42:609 (1) - ^

also really liked this diff

[octagon]

great job on this map, hope to see it ranked soon

CXu

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CXu 2017-07-31T16:20:11+00:00

Mismagius wrote:
[monogon]
00:02:609 (2) - i think i'd probably NC this for intuitiveness, with the red tick & different sound / rhythm break. you did this on 00:24:505 (1) - for a similar situation. - Sure.
01:32:781 (3,4,5,1) - i'd really recommend making things less overlappy here, it's the lowest diff in the mapset - Sure
01:38:298 (3,4,5,1) - same as above, something like this would work better imo - Sure
01:47:954 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - i'm not sure if i get the idea of this section, but 01:43:126 (1,2,3) - is a triangle and 01:45:195 (1,2,3,4) - is a square. maybe position 01:50:712 (1) - in a way that makes the third combo a pentagon? - The idea was that the slider before the triangle took up one of the circles for the first combo so I just made a triangle with it xddd. But good idea, Changed

Thanks!

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380,132,77609,5,0,1:2:0:0:
256,192,77954,12,8,79678,0:0:0:0:
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360,254,91057,1,2,3:2:0:0:
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Sebu

95 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Sebu 2017-08-01T13:51:47+00:00

Mismagius wrote:
hello, sorry for being late
giving a quick check in other diffs, but won't really be too nitpicky
no worries

[digon]
00:54:161 (1) - i'd try to mess around with this slider until the endpoint is at x267 y229 so it stacks with 00:56:574 (3) - and makes a good blanket with 00:55:540 (1) -
fixed
01:00:368 (2,3,1) - i'd try to arrange this triangle doing something like placing 01:00:368 (2) - at x388 y244, 01:00:712 (3) - at x444 y376 and 01:01:057 (1) - at x298 y358. looks nicer & stacks with the sliderend
fixed
01:13:471 (1) - IMO arranging this slider to make something like this would look nicer
cleaned it up a bit. made something similar
[trigon]
00:14:850 (3,4,5,6,1) - i think the usage of 1/2 antijumps in ar8 and awkward rhythms just doesn't work well for a diff that seems to be a light insane. i'd rather use constant spacing here or something
made a couple changes.
00:38:977 - unsnapped timing section
fixed
00:45:195 (4,5,6,7) - ok for this one i DEFINITELY clicked them as 1/4s, this is just really hard to sightread for someone playing a 3* diff
~~learn to read~~made them stacked :^)
01:00:368 (4) - i'd personally remove the last 2 repeats from this for rhythm simplification & making this more sightreadable
01:05:884 (4) - ^
ait, removed for simplicity
01:07:781 (1,1) - pretty much impossible to read at ar8 for the players this diff is designed for. personally i'd just stack 01:07:781 (1) - at x272 y136
agree, also stacked 01:07:523 (1) - with 01:06:574 (1) - so that it looks pretty
01:42:092 (4,5,6,1) - not sure about the rankability of this, (1)'s path is pretty much blocked by the triple for a long time
made it stacked on sliderend, and fixed triangle accoringly
[tetragon]
00:11:402 (1,2,3) - aww, why the awkward overlapping here, you seemed to utilize larger spacing in the other 1/4 slider jumps
changed
00:34:764 (7) - i said i wasn't gonna be nitpicky but move this note 2px up to make this triple straight
fixed
01:03:471 (1,2) - i'd apply normal hitsound soundset to these two
not so sure about that one
01:46:574 (1,2) - i think these two should be more spaced between them, really thought this was 1/4 at first
spaced it out a bit
[heptagon]
00:05:368 (1,2) - didn't really understand this at first, i'd probably move these down 2px so it's at least clear this is a double and not a slider or something
moved a bit
00:22:005 (4) - stack perfectly with (1)'s sliderend pls i hate saying this but it just triggers me
whoops, should be good now
00:33:816 (1) - NC here seems a bit odd, may just be me though
removed it, probably added by mistake
00:34:678 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - i'd probably space these combos farther away from each other, something like this should work well enough to make it better readable
I feel like this would overemphasize them, and i don't really see the reading issue here? should be pretty obvious that they arent part of the previous stream imo
00:37:954 (2) - 1px right SORRY I'LL STOP
keep em comin' B)
00:39:850 (1) - not sure about this sliderend covering a strong beat, maybe make it a 1/4 slider & a note?
00:42:609 (1) - ^
modtly done to differenciate it from 00:39:505 (4,5) - and the doubles after, and since it still covered(even if by only a sliderend) it should be fine i feel.

also really liked this diff
thanks~
[octagon]

great job on this map, hope to see it ranked soon

thanks a lot

(all updated i think)

rock time

264 posts

Joined January 2015

rock time 2017-08-03T12:58:58+00:00

mod

gn's pentagon

SPOILER

00:15:712 (8,9,10) the way it is now doesnt play too well. Maybe ctrl+g 9 and 10?

00:17:781 (4,5,6) same here

why is 00:25:195 (1,2) farther spaced than 00:25:885 (4,5) ? they are the same sounds

same at 00:30:712 (1,2) etc

00:53:816 (6,7,1) separate them out a little more. all the other 1/4 slider jumps in this section are spaced so these should be too

everything in kiai time and past it is amazing dont change it

for some reason i feel the HP is too high... but maybe thats cuz i cant play at 7am

pc's hexagon

SPOILER

00:45:885 (1,2,4) maybe add whistles on 1 and 4 to highlight the "go" vocals

01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) on every other stream before you have NC's every 4 notes, whats different here?

same goes for 01:39:678

sorry for such a short mod, mapset is too good ;-;
plz rank this its so cool

good luck!

-GN

Champion Above Champions

734 posts

Joined June 2011

-GN 2017-08-03T21:24:22+00:00

Manu028 wrote:
[-GN's pentagone]
00:46:403 (3,4) - idk if u noticed but there is a 1/8 sound here (just to point it out)
acceptable simplification imo
01:46:230 (1,2) - I see this double better with a slider like u did here 01:44:850 (1,2,3,4) -
fair enough

walter85 wrote:
[-GN's pentagon]
00:02:436 (4,5,6,7) - I would've mapped that weird sound here but it's a subjective thing
i can't tell which sound you mean, doubles fit the best here anyway i think
00:24:333 (4,5) - Here red and white ticks stand out, I think the correct way is to make (4) a kickslider and make this 00:24:592 (6,7,8,9) - 5 notes instead of 4
nah, i'm following the dominant sounds rather than the main beat here, this one in particular feels nice to play as a "drum fill" sort of thing
00:28:730 (4) - Skipping a sound here, would be good to add a circle stacked on it
once again skipping the main beat
00:34:247 (4) - same
^
01:02:264 (2,3) - A slider shouldn't pass across important sounds
i really don't think the main beat is that important
01:03:126 (8) - Triple here fits good
i believe you
01:18:988 (1,2,3) - This plays very awkward, usually players will expect these to be 1/1 or 1/2 long, unless other types of rhythm have been made clear earlier on the map. Also, there are more important sounds on white ticks rather than red and blue, so you should either make 2 of them 1/1 long or 4 of them 1/4 long, they're both fine
i'll change this later once i reply to other mods
01:42:436 (1,2,3) - Make this 4 notes long so you don't skip the white tick
01:47:868 (1) - Make this circle-1/4 slider, fits better imo
01:49:247 (10,1,2,3,4) - Same thing as before, skipping a beat
denying the rest. i'm STRICTLY following the dominant instrument here, nothing else

doing the rest when i get my proper pc set up again

-PC

135 posts

Joined July 2013

-PC 2017-08-10T20:02:07+00:00

Manu028

Manu028 wrote:
[-PC's hexagone]
01:31:402 (1) - from this part you stop the jumpstreams and do normal streams instead, but tbh i don't see any change in the song, the intensity is litterally the same, to me it would be better to just continue like you did in the first section I've previously explained how I think this pattern would be too repetitive if I continue the jumpstreams in Smoothie World's mod, but let me get into a little bit more detail:

This entire map and song is constructed so that rhythm changes after 8 whole beats. I reflect this in my map accordinly. My first statement is true for everything except the kiai section, which for some reason is 16 beats. This is cool for the song, since it shows a really nice change of pace, switching from the regular 8 beat pattern to a 16 beat pattern. But as a mapper, I want the map itself to be as interesting as possible. Sure, maybe some players would find 16 beats jumpstreams more fun. Maybe someone would enjoy 16 beat streams. The point is, as a mapper, THE MAPPER decides how to construct their map. Sure, it should reflect the music, but doesn't it still reflect it? This is a variation in the map which still flows with the song, and in my opinion it makes the map more interesting. (although this is an old map and I would've considered this more before mapping it back then please don't kill me)

Anyway, I'm leaving the stream part as I want to keep the 8 beat pattern to provide interest. I don't really see the change as an issue.
01:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - okay, this is a cool idea, why is this the only stream with a polygon? if you really want to keep the second section without jumpstreams, it would be cool to see polygon-streams like this (imo) I have to agree. -GN did this in his mapset. Although this never occured to me while mapping, and the square stream was purely due to me just thinking it could be fun to play. I won't remap any of this. (also to not overwrite previous mods and since sebu wants this ranked like now)

Thanks for the mod! I apologize if I seem overly critical about that first point, but I really mean it. (kinda)

Gokateigo

Gokateigo wrote:
00:03:643 (1,2) - this kind of things looks weird Yeah, changed this.
00:36:919 (1,2) - ^ I like this one.
01:29:333 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why ? there is no reasons to do that this looks cool and stops motion like the previous pattern at 01:23:816 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . Made the spacing a litt bigger though.

Thanks for the mod!

walter85

walter85 wrote:
[-PC's hexagon]Damn i love this diff Thank you <3
00:11:057 (5) - Maybe curve it a bit more? It looks way better to me I really like this one without a full curve. The rest of the map also has no full curve sliders with multiple points other than s-bend sliders.
00:21:402 (1,2) - Maybe curve them the same amount as 00:20:712 (1,2) - for visual consistency, or vice versa Did this and changed this pattern quite a bit to match intensity and to not be a terrible pattern.
00:47:005 (2) - I don't get why is it here lol, I can't hear anything there Basically mapping to the same sound as I have been doing the entire map, e.g 00:45:540 (4,5,6,7) - . Kinda cheating but I wanted to emphasize on streams.
00:49:161 (4) - Would be nice if you kept it the same way as this 00:47:954 (1,2) - and made it go outward I prefer the norwegian read-ish way :^) I like how they both center towards the blanket I guess, and it's a nice pattern I don't see very often. Plays alright to me.
00:54:505 (3,4) - Same here, I don't like things like these very much, but it's subjective ^
01:24:505 (1) - Center it a bit Fixed.
01:41:747 (1,2,1) - Make these the same distance apart, because it plays like a triple, and having them spaced differently is a bit weird. Basically, just treat (2) as a circle and ignore the slidertail I agree that this could be seen as a triple, but I seriously think the slider makes this one stand out as a circle and some strange appendix to the 1/2 slider. idk, I feel it plays better as is than spacing the 1/2 slider further out.

Thanks for the mod! \:D/

Mismagius

Mismagius wrote:
[hexagon]
00:06:919 (3) - move 1px down for perfect stacking :^) Fixed.
01:08:565 (8) - unsnapped what the hell.

really nice diff, loved this one Thanks!

Thanks for the mod!

fufu-

fufu- wrote:
pc's hexagon
aimod Fixed in previous mod.
00:45:885 (1,2,4) maybe add whistles on 1 and 4 to highlight the "go" vocals Nice, good idea. Added although I'll have to discuss with sebu later (we just copy hitsounds from my diff).

01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) on every other stream before you have NC's every 4 notes, whats different here? uh I suppose it's more natural with the way this stream is mapped. Might decide to change the second and third streams later, since it kinda makes more sense.

same goes for 01:39:678 yeah, instead of changing these I might change the others later.

Thanks!

.osu

Natsu

8,076 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-08-11T14:12:06+00:00

General

00:16:230 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:747 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:28:988 (4,5,6,7) - this and other places probably need more volume, since the streams gives little feedback (this happens in the other diffs as well I think)

heptagon

00:01:574 (1) - why the NC? the other pairs 00:00:712 (1,2,1,2) - don't have NCs, so I don't see any reason for this one to has NC, either NC all or none
00:05:368 (1,2) - maybe move them 2 or 3 grids down to make them more visible, I asked a few pro players to test and they had problems with this.
00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - your map looks really nice visually talking, that's why I was wonder about the ugly curve for this stream 00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - maybe you can improve it
00:35:540 (3) - add NC, so you can keep the pairs 00:35:023 (1,2,1,2) - in single combos.
01:09:850 (3,5) - stack them? idk it triggered me a lot
01:39:850 (3,4,1) - I don't think it flows that nicely, I got feedback from a few players and they said was uncomfortable to play.
01:41:747 (1,1) - you don't need to spam combos like this, specially because the first object is a circle.

-PC's hexagon

00:01:057 (1,2) - this doesn't fit the song rhythm that well, because the slider tail of 1 should be click'able as you did with 00:00:626 (4,2) - , I'd do 2 1/4 sliders or a circle and a 1/4 slider
00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - the stream fails to represent the song properly, use something similar at what the top diff do
00:18:471 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - same, mapping every sound don't let you represent the song properly, doing sliders as you did before would bring emphasis to right beats at this section
00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action
00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - same issue, mapping the full stream kills the emphasis of the strong beats, maybe do something as the top diff do?
00:40:712 (3,4,1) - why the spacing is that different, I get that you want to bring more spacing to 4, but 4 to 1 is super short xd
00:57:609 (1) - the tail of the slider is the start of a new melody and needs to be clic'able, use a 1/4 slider and then circles
01:03:299 (2) - same as above
01:08:816 (1) - unnecessary NC
01:16:230 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - all the streams at this section needs more volume

-GN's pentagon

00:09:161 (3,4) - 00:11:919 (3,4) - a 1/4 slider would fit the music better, 4 being a circle doesn't fit the song and it's weird to click, because the song doesn't provide a clear beat there.
00:12:781 (1,2,3) - add a bit more spacing so they don't overlap (with some custom skins) and 00:13:040 (2,3) - is overlaped with the default skin
00:28:212 (2,3,4) - 00:33:730 (2,3,4) - the drums being ignored is so weird and doesn't really fit the music a lot, atleast map them as slider tails or something.
00:34:505 (5,6) - the sounds at the triplet are super strong that's why the triplet being overlaped with 5 doesn't fit the song.
00:35:885 (5,6) - same as above, I'm poiting this things mainly because you used 1/4 jumps for beats with less emphasis for example 00:38:643 (7,8) -
00:43:212 (2,3,4,5) - vs 00:46:574 (4,5,6,7) - 00:57:609 (4,1) - vs 00:57:954 (3,1) - same, idk I really think that you should check the map again and make the spacing consistent at this things, either space them or overlap them all
00:41:230 (6,7) - a slider would fit better the main melody of the song.
00:59:161 (5) - 01:04:678 (5) - 2 1/4 sliders are better, since with the single repeat slider you're killing the emphasis of the white tick
01:17:781 (2,3) - use a slider instead to bring more emphasis to those sounds and start the stream at 01:17:954 (4) - with the funny vocals
01:19:678 (1,2,3,4) - this should be a full stream to represent the song better, the 1/2 pause doesn't much sense with the song tbh.

tetragon

00:04:850 (3,4) - a slider would fit better the music,tbh clicking 4 after clicking 2 and 3 with other rhythm is super weird
00:41:230 (1,2,3) - 2 1/4 sliders would represent better the music, 2 don't have the same emphasis and rhythm as 1 and 3

trigon

00:42:954 (6,1) - spacing is too short.
01:17:954 (1) - sounds better if you extend it to the next white tick

digon

00:14:850 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - eh the bigger issue I have with this diff is the 1/2s being overlapped, use more spacing.
00:42:436 (2) - add a repeat to this slider, since the next white tick also belongs to the main melody of the song
00:43:730 (2,3) - realy weird rhythm, it can be confused for low lvl players, since the drums are being ignored and the weird gaps in the time line also don't help
01:01:057 (1,2,1) - too empty rhythm, atleast make them 1/1 sliders
01:06:574 (1,2,3,4) - again the overlaps, they need more spacing
01:21:057 (3,4,1) - they are overlapped because of the stack leniency of 4 and 1
01:23:816 (3,4) - blanket is off

CXu's monogon

AR is too low, use AR 4 , since new players had problems with super low AR like your current one
00:01:747 (1,1) - NCs are too spammy for no reason.
00:02:609 (1) - this slider is ending on a important stanza, it needs to be click'able, because it's the intro of the fast melody
00:08:126 (2) - same
00:16:574 (5,1) - 00:19:333 (5,1) - 00:22:092 (4,1) - I'd ctrl G the rhythm, since the tail of 1 is the start of the melody
00:24:505 (1) - 01:08:643 (1) - remove NC it's too spammy
01:06:574 (1,2,3,1) - the way you overlap all this objects can be confused to play for new players, I'd rearrange them better.
01:17:954 (1,1) - too soon after a spinner, tbh I recommend to delete the spinner and add some big slider there
01:43:126 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - add some HS and add more volume, because they don't bring much feedback atm

CXu

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CXu 2017-08-11T14:35:57+00:00

Natsu wrote:
General

00:16:230 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:747 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:28:988 (4,5,6,7) - this and other places probably need more volume, since the streams gives little feedback (this happens in the other diffs as well I think)
CXu's monogon
AR is too low, use AR 4 , since new players had problems with super low AR like your current one - Sure.
00:01:747 (1,1) - NCs are too spammy for no reason. - 00:02:609 (1) - It's the first 3/2, and it sounds fairly distinct that the NC seems reasonable for me.
00:02:609 (1) - this slider is ending on a important stanza, it needs to be click'able, because it's the intro of the fast melody - I disagree in general that downbeats have to be on clickable beats, and having them on longer slider's sliderends still gives an impact to them (you're holding down until you release for the feedback). It's the same concept as 01:42:092 (2) - , which you didn't really point out.
00:08:126 (2) - same - ^These are also consistent in where they appear in the map.
00:16:574 (5,1) - 00:19:333 (5,1) - 00:22:092 (4,1) - I'd ctrl G the rhythm, since the tail of 1 is the start of the melody - I'm pretty sure the downbeat here is the start of the melody. 00:16:919 - is low pitched, then goes high at 00:17:264 -
00:24:505 (1) - 01:08:643 (1) - remove NC it's too spammy - It's a new pattern and also the introduction of 1/2 in the map.
01:06:574 (1,2,3,1) - the way you overlap all this objects can be confused to play for new players, I'd rearrange them better. - I could make them more spaced to better show where the sliderheads are, but then the spacing would be kinda whack. Or I could make some other shape probably, but I figured I'd ask if you think just increasing the spacing and ignoring distance snap would be good enough here?
01:17:954 (1,1) - too soon after a spinner, tbh I recommend to delete the spinner and add some big slider there - There's a pretty big difference in feel of spinning a spinner (fairly active) and just following a slow sliderbody, and the vocals here are going pretty fast, so changing it to a slider doesn't really fit as well imo. And you get quite a bit of leeway to actually hit the next note, since it's a slider.
01:43:126 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - add some HS and add more volume, because they don't bring much feedback atm - Not sure what other HS I could put here, but I'll increase the volume a bit.

Thanks for modding

Tell me if there's something you disagree with in terms of my rationale for things xd.

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Sebu

95 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Sebu 2017-08-12T15:54:18+00:00

Natsu wrote:
General

00:16:230 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:747 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:28:988 (4,5,6,7) - this and other places probably need more volume, since the streams gives little feedback (this happens in the other diffs as well I think)
~~gonna take a look at this with -PC later~~ alright, fixed some hitsound volumes
heptagon

00:01:574 (1) - why the NC? the other pairs 00:00:712 (1,2,1,2) - don't have NCs, so I don't see any reason for this one to has NC, either NC all or none
this was changed to have and NC in a previous mod, but I'll revert it(to no NC)
00:05:368 (1,2) - maybe move them 2 or 3 grids down to make them more visible, I asked a few pro players to test and they had problems with this.
this used to be even more stacked, and was changed to be more "visible" in mismagius' mod. after the change I havent seen anyone have problems reading this stack so I'm gonna have to disagree to a change here as i don't think it's an issue. also moving the last 2 circles even more down would ruin the aesthetic in my opinion
00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - your map looks really nice visually talking, that's why I was wonder about the ugly curve for this stream 00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - maybe you can improve it
not sure quite what you mean here. I find this very pleasing to look at. only thing i could see working is stacking the two first notes on (3).
00:35:540 (3) - add NC, so you can keep the pairs 00:35:023 (1,2,1,2) - in single combos.
alright
01:09:850 (3,5) - stack them? idk it triggered me a lot
sure, stack it is
01:39:850 (3,4,1) - I don't think it flows that nicely, I got feedback from a few players and they said was uncomfortable to play.
havent really had an issue with this myself, but I made the stack 01:40:023 (1,2,3,4) - less spacing, which should make it easier to just snap to and stay still with the cursor, which in return should make the pattern itself easier to hit. not necessarily less awkward, but easier.
01:41:747 (1,1) - you don't need to spam combos like this, specially because the first object is a circle.
I kind of feel like this NC'ing is necessary to make the player understand that this indeed plays like a triplet. I might be wrong tho
tetragon

00:04:850 (3,4) - a slider would fit better the music,tbh clicking 4 after clicking 2 and 3 with other rhythm is super weird
changed it up a bit
00:41:230 (1,2,3) - 2 1/4 sliders would represent better the music, 2 don't have the same emphasis and rhythm as 1 and 3
changed :>
trigon
00:42:954 (6,1) - spacing is too short.
changed
01:17:954 (1) - sounds better if you extend it to the next white tick
stopped spinner early to give the player more time to adjust their cursor, but I'll extent it cuz you say it
digon
00:14:850 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - eh the bigger issue I have with this diff is the 1/2s being overlapped, use more spacing.
i do very much agree with this. changed where i had to.
00:42:436 (2) - add a repeat to this slider, since the next white tick also belongs to the main melody of the song
did this and fixed spacing for next slider too
00:43:730 (2,3) - realy weird rhythm, it can be confused for low lvl players, since the drums are being ignored and the weird gaps in the time line also don't help
I'm not sure as to what other rhythm i would use then. the distance to the next object should at least make it somewhat readable for a newer player, but if you could give me another example of a rhythm i could use, that would be really helpful
01:01:057 (1,2,1) - too empty rhythm, atleast make them 1/1 sliders
fixed. not sure if the current one is better or not tho
01:06:574 (1,2,3,4) - again the overlaps, they need more spacing
fixed
01:21:057 (3,4,1) - they are overlapped because of the stack leniency of 4 and 1
changed
01:23:816 (3,4) - blanket is off
fixed

-GN

Champion Above Champions

734 posts

Joined June 2011

-GN 2017-08-15T18:15:45+00:00

Mismagius

Mismagius wrote:
[pentagon]
00:59:161 (5,6,7) - because of the spacing i really couldn't predict that (5) had two repeats. i'd try to get (6,7) closer to it so it keeps a relation of continuity
removed the last repeat instead. sounds better to me anyway
01:03:126 (8) - moving (8) to x428 y224 would look nicer imo
fixed

fufu-

fufu- wrote:
gn's pentagon
00:15:712 (8,9,10) the way it is now doesnt play too well. Maybe ctrl+g 9 and 10?
00:17:781 (4,5,6) same here
requiring a bit of aim control can't be that bad

why is 00:25:195 (1,2) farther spaced than 00:25:885 (4,5) ? they are the same sounds
same at 00:30:712 (1,2) etc
fixed, don't know what you mean by etc though

00:53:816 (6,7,1) separate them out a little more. all the other 1/4 slider jumps in this section are spaced so these should be too
i changed the angles of the sliders so they look more spaced but actually arent. matches 00:55:195 (5,6,1) - now though

everything in kiai time and past it is amazing dont change it
cool

for some reason i feel the HP is too high... but maybe thats cuz i cant play at 7am
i seriously doubt it is

Natsu

Natsu wrote:
-GN's pentagon

00:09:161 (3,4) - 00:11:919 (3,4) - a 1/4 slider would fit the music better, 4 being a circle doesn't fit the song and it's weird to click, because the song doesn't provide a clear beat there.
fixed
00:12:781 (1,2,3) - add a bit more spacing so they don't overlap (with some custom skins) and 00:13:040 (2,3) - is overlaped with the default skin
made the spacing consistent(it doesn't overlap on default), but i really don't see the need to increase it further
00:28:212 (2,3,4) - 00:33:730 (2,3,4) - the drums being ignored is so weird and doesn't really fit the music a lot, atleast map them as slider tails or something.
that would just be confusing, i don't want to deviate from the main instrument here
00:34:505 (5,6) - the sounds at the triplet are super strong that's why the triplet being overlaped with 5 doesn't fit the song.
alright moved the triple a bit
00:35:885 (5,6) - same as above, I'm poiting this things mainly because you used 1/4 jumps for beats with less emphasis for example 00:38:643 (7,8) -
this is for playability's sake, i don't want the strong triple here require consistent accuracy because it comes right after a 1/8 slider
00:43:212 (2,3,4,5) - vs 00:46:574 (4,5,6,7) -
these really aren't comparable. first one is part of a pattern i want to be easily playable, the other one is the end drum pattern of a phrase, they're not all meant to be consistent
00:57:609 (4,1) - vs 00:57:954 (3,1) - same, idk I really think that you should check the map again and make the spacing consistent at this things, either space them or overlap them all
i disagree, this example is just for visuals and has no bearing on playability. i think the context(middle of patterns vs ending of patterns) makes these variations acceptable
00:41:230 (6,7) - a slider would fit better the main melody of the song.
true
00:59:161 (5) - 01:04:678 (5) - 2 1/4 sliders are better, since with the single repeat slider you're killing the emphasis of the white tick
i reduced these sliders by one repeat, i disagree with the emphasis as i'm not following the drums primarily anyway
01:17:781 (2,3) - use a slider instead to bring more emphasis to those sounds and start the stream at 01:17:954 (4) - with the funny vocals
done
01:19:678 (1,2,3,4) - this should be a full stream to represent the song better, the 1/2 pause doesn't much sense with the song tbh.
what? this follows the vocals. i added a 1/4 slider here after the triple, but it might be a bit precise for a 5*

thx for mods

sebu

-PC

135 posts

Joined July 2013

-PC 2017-08-29T19:04:45+00:00

Natsu wrote:
-PC's hexagon
00:01:057 (1,2) - this doesn't fit the song rhythm that well, because the slider tail of 1 should be click'able as you did with 00:00:626 (4,2) - , I'd do 2 1/4 sliders or a circle and a 1/4 slider While yes, it seems the sliderend should be clickable, I don't highlight the same sound here (consider the slider following at 00:01:402 (1) - , 00:01:919 (2) - ). I feel the current pattern fits the song better since this sound fades away during the intro segment.
00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - the stream fails to represent the song properly, use something similar at what the top diff do I completely disagree. The entire previous segment utilized spacing and movement for the intensity. This pattern provides the map version of change in intensity. Spacing is reduced a lot, the streams are mapped to the background arpeggio. At the next sound, 00:13:040 (1) - , spacing is again increased, with a square stream. To me this is without a doubt functional for this part of the map. Intensity != spacing
00:18:471 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - same, mapping every sound don't let you represent the song properly, doing sliders as you did before would bring emphasis to right beats at this section Agree with this one.
00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action I get that you mean this is the start of a new beat, but that doesn't mean it needs to be clickable. Note how the sliderhead of 00:23:643 (3) - is a kick in the song? the slidertail is not. I feel the kick weighs way more than the definition of a starting beat, and in this case, I see zero issue not mapping a click to the sliderend. This pattern also flows really nicely into the next one imo.
00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - same issue, mapping the full stream kills the emphasis of the strong beats, maybe do something as the top diff do? I really don't feel this one is very intense, and as such, the low spaced stream is enough to justify the "intensity" difference. Low spacing also builds up to the stream directly after it, which in contrast uses higher spacing to emphasise intensity.
00:40:712 (3,4,1) - why the spacing is that different, I get that you want to bring more spacing to 4, but 4 to 1 is super short xd Yeah, moved this one closer and with less difference in spacing.
00:57:609 (1) - the tail of the slider is the start of a new melody and needs to be clic'able, use a 1/4 slider and then circles Sure.
01:03:299 (2) - same as above Alright.
01:08:816 (1) - unnecessary NC Fixed.
01:16:230 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - all the streams at this section needs more volume Sebu should have fixed this.

Thanks for the mod!

.osu

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-09-02T21:50:44+00:00

[General :]

00:00:368 - Remove this greenline of diff you don't change SV with. And if you use SV change put same volume on both timing and inherited point.

[CXu's monogon :]

00:01:057 (2,1) - Overlap and proximity could be a bit messy for a newbie, would move it at 120:148.
00:02:609 (1) - Make it start at 00:02:436 - . The sound on it is maybe weaker than 00:02:609 - but still player will expect to play it and also avoid a polarity issues by not respecting the 1/1 gap. Also end it on 00:02:781 - and make 00:03:126 - playable would be nice since it's such a strong beat.
00:29:333 (3,1) - The small overlap triggers me.
01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - High density patterns should be avoided, they're just a pain to be read easiely. Simplify structure a bit to make it more readable.
01:37:609 (2,4) - Other overlap z.
01:51:402 (1) - Tbh this NC alone make no sense with rest of your pattern.

[digon :]

00:23:816 (3) - NC is not necessary if you want to keep like how you did them before.

[trigon :]

00:57:609 (2,3) - I would avoid the stack to make sure arrow is readable. Right now it's too hidden behind the circle.
01:04:333 (2,3,4) - Use simple stack pls, that's not an Insane and could be a bit disturbing.
01:07:781 (1,1) - Spacing is too low and don't give the good visual rhythm from it. Also once again, reverse arrow is not much visible with 01:08:385 (6,7) - .
01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This kind of pattern is a big no. Clearly a pattern you would see more on an Insane or above, but the reading is not the best and playability too edgy for that diff. Also nothing on the song call for 01:31:402 (1,2) - being stacked. Simple stack or small burst like https://puu.sh/xpYvO/44cc236e40.png would definitly be better.

[tetragon :]

00:57:781 (3,4,5) - Unstack them, the 1st of them is really hard to catch correctly due to it and lead to a easy unwanted break. Just space them a bit is enough.
00:35:540 (2) - / 01:08:471 (7) - / 01:18:988 (1,2) - / 01:52:954 (3) - and more if I forgot some -> Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.

[-GN's pentagon :]

00:43:471 (3,4,5) - I would expect them straight after the slider and not a bit on the side of it to make like between 00:42:954 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/xpZmV/9fa948f7ee.png .
00:46:403 (3,4) - Could they have the same shape than 00:45:884 (1,2) - ? Would be more clean visually https://puu.sh/xpZp4/057a191eda.png .
01:03:816 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Why spacing between both is so different ? 01:03:816 (1,2,3) - and 01:04:505 (3,4,5) - sounds the same but are done differently and make it weird. Would rather use a coherent one who respect same song part or a consistent spacing for both.
01:18:988 (1,2,3) - / 01:52:954 (2) - Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.

[-PC's hexagon :]

First, I agree with Natsu about stuff like 00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - / 00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - / etc who don't provide a correct feedback of what the song offer. Ignoring these strong sounds for background one is confusing and sounds a bit off, and make your diff more flat since you're using too often these kind of structure.
Second, on kiai I don't see the point of doing jump streams on 1st half if you just don't on the 2nd half. I would rather do all of them without and just play with spacing like you did from 01:31:402 - . There's no major differences to make a such change.

[heptagon :]

00:01:919 (1,2,3) - I would stack them to create a similar effect like 00:02:436 (1,2,3) - who share the same kind of sound, also represent more the rhythm you used here -> https://puu.sh/xq0Nk/a3f88d0ea3.png .
00:05:195 (1,2,1,2) - If I believe what you answered to Natsu, then why spacing is different from stuff like 00:10:712 (1,2,3,4) - who share exactly the same rhythm and music ? They should yes.
00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - Natsu means the curve could be a bit better, the angle you did with 00:32:436 (3,4) - is a bit broken and could be more smooth.
01:31:057 (1,2,3) - Imo that's a bit overkill for a 1/4. The back and forth create a non intuitive pattern to follow unlike stuff like 01:42:092 (1,2,3) - .

Mukyu~

CXu

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CXu 2017-09-02T22:04:02+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[notice][General :]
00:00:368 - Remove this greenline of diff you don't change SV with. And if you use SV change put same volume on both timing and inherited point. -
Removed.

[CXu's monogon :]
00:01:057 (2,1) - Overlap and proximity could be a bit messy for a newbie, would move it at 120:148. - Eh, the new combo and general order of fade in should be decent enough indicators even for a new player imo. While it is the easiest difficulty, it's also not exactly mapped for a complete beginner.
00:02:609 (1) - Make it start at 00:02:436 - . The sound on it is maybe weaker than 00:02:609 - but still player will expect to play it and also avoid a polarity issues by not respecting the 1/1 gap. Also end it on 00:02:781 - and make 00:03:126 - playable would be nice since it's such a strong beat. - You can actually hit the sliderhead at a 1/1 timing and not sliderbreak due to the low OD here, so I don't see it as much of a problem. The map also features polarity changes (albeit not a lot) later on, so introducing it early seems like a good idea to me. As for the stronger beat at the sliderend, it might just be my opinion on it, but combinations of hitsounds and length of sliders can still make a sliderend (and then the release of a note) feel more important than the head. Maybe it's a bit more old school interpretation as it definitely was more common to do it back in the days compared to now, but yeah, I personally never had a problem with it.
00:29:333 (3,1) - The small overlap triggers me. - lmao fixed.
01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - High density patterns should be avoided, they're just a pain to be read easiely. Simplify structure a bit to make it more readable.
- If you mean rhythmically dense, then I think it's simple enough and I also repeat the same rhythm several times through the kiai. If you mean just the way things overlap/stack, then I can fix that. Tell me if that's what you meant.
01:37:609 (2,4) - Other overlap z. - Can't really avoid it due to spacing, and spacing this part different would look out of place compared to the other patterns.
01:51:402 (1) - Tbh this NC alone make no sense with rest of your pattern. - Eh it's just for aesthetic reasons to not make a pentagon have 6 notes in it,
and it's also isolated from the previous patterns by being in the middle.

Thanks for modding!

SPOILER

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Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-09-02T22:38:53+00:00

@CXu

01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - Was talking about the pattern, not the rhythm :>
Also about 00:02:609 (1) - low OD is not really the point to know if it's k or not, also imo it makes more sense because it would cover all the sound of that small section and not ignoring the one at 00:02:436 - . A really newbie will also expect a 1/1 because it's more a simple rhythm to catch on that point of the song (it's a quite calm section after all).

CXu

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CXu 2017-09-03T09:11:46+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
@CXu
01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - Was talking about the pattern, not the rhythm :> - Alright, rearranged the pattern, hopefully better now!
Also about 00:02:609 (1) - low OD is not really the point to know if it's k or not, also imo it makes more sense because it would cover all the sound of that small section and not ignoring the one at 00:02:436 - . A really newbie will also expect a 1/1 because it's more a simple rhythm to catch on that point of the song (it's a quite calm section after all). - My point with the OD is that even if a new player does misread the section, it's not a mistake that will be punished in any special way, but it will give information as to how these rhythms work later in the map. I also think the sound I follow on the sliderhead is much more important than the fairly inaudible (comparatively) sound on the white tick.

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-PC

135 posts

Joined July 2013

-PC 2017-09-03T09:36:24+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[-PC's hexagon :]
First, I agree with Natsu about stuff like 00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - / 00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - / etc who don't provide a correct feedback of what the song offer. Ignoring these strong sounds for background one is confusing and sounds a bit off, and make your diff more flat since you're using too often these kind of structure. I expressed my thoughts on these in detail in my response to Natsu's mod. I don't want to follow your higher spacing == intensity rules and personally feel the LOW spacing is what matches the intensity on this part. It throws the players off, which is the point. That's what makes it interesting to play. And at the same time, it fits the intensity with its bizarrely low spaced linear stream, followed by a bigger square stream.

As for the etc bit: unless you specifically note what you mean here, I can't change anything.
Second, on kiai I don't see the point of doing jump streams on 1st half if you just don't on the 2nd half. I would rather do all of them without and just play with spacing like you did from 01:31:402 - . There's no major differences to make a such change. I've explained this in detail at Manu028's mod. Not going to do this differently.

Thanks for the mod!

.osu (fixed hitsounds at 00:18:299 (1,2,3,4) - )

Sebu

95 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Sebu 2017-09-04T15:18:55+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[General :]
00:00:368 - Remove this greenline of diff you don't change SV with. And if you use SV change put same volume on both timing and inherited point.okay
[digon :]
00:23:816 (3) - NC is not necessary if you want to keep like how you did them before.
removed NC
[trigon :]
00:57:609 (2,3) - I would avoid the stack to make sure arrow is readable. Right now it's too hidden behind the circle.
moved a bit so that the arrow isnt hidden
01:04:333 (2,3,4) - Use simple stack pls, that's not an Insane and could be a bit disturbing.
fixed
01:07:781 (1,1) - Spacing is too low and don't give the good visual rhythm from it. Also once again, reverse arrow is not much visible with 01:08:385 (6,7) - .
Made a change that should be acceptable
01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This kind of pattern is a big no. Clearly a pattern you would see more on an Insane or above, but the reading is not the best and playability too edgy for that diff. Also nothing on the song call for 01:31:402 (1,2) - being stacked. Simple stack or small burst like https://puu.sh/xpYvO/44cc236e40.png would definitly be better.
I would disagree that the song doesnt call for it as the first two sounds are higher(and the same) pitch, but then again I guess this kind of thing might be a bit too much for a hard diff.. even tho I'd really like to keep it.
[tetragon :]
00:57:781 (3,4,5) - Unstack them, the 1st of them is really hard to catch correctly due to it and lead to a easy unwanted break. Just space them a bit is enough.
ok
00:35:540 (2) - / 01:08:471 (7) - / 01:18:988 (1,2) - / 01:52:954 (3) - and more if I forgot some -> Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.
I get your point but on 01:18:988 (1,2) - I'll only make the second one have a 1/4 gap as the distance between the first and the second is basically nothing. Having it repeat fully shouldnt be a gameplay issue at all.
[heptagon :]
00:01:919 (1,2,3) - I would stack them to create a similar effect like 00:02:436 (1,2,3) - who share the same kind of sound, also represent more the rhythm you used here -> https://puu.sh/xq0Nk/a3f88d0ea3.png .
First off, I'd say those two triples dont share similar sound at all. the first has one distinct sound with for each hit, kind of a high pitch tap(idk),
while the other is nothing like it at all, so spacing them out would make more sense to me. also the pattern as a whole kind of foreshadows these: 00:52:436 (2,1,2,1) - 00:56:574 (5,1,2,3) - . Even so I think I'm gonna change to your suggestion just cause it plays a lot better and doesnt catch the player off guard as much as the inital pattern does.
00:05:195 (1,2,1,2) - If I believe what you answered to Natsu, then why spacing is different from stuff like 00:10:712 (1,2,3,4) - who share exactly the same rhythm and music ? They should yes.
If you take into account how you actually play those patterns, they don't play much differently at all. very minor movement with a jump to the last note.
00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - Natsu means the curve could be a bit better, the angle you did with 00:32:436 (3,4) - is a bit broken and could be more smooth.
clarified in pm. changed it a tiny bit
01:31:057 (1,2,3) - Imo that's a bit overkill for a 1/4. The back and forth create a non intuitive pattern to follow unlike stuff like 01:42:092 (1,2,3) - .
I feel like a back and forth movement really fits the music here, but I changed up the pattern a bit so that the spacing isn't as crazy. generally the first 2 notes in a 1/4 jump like this is much easier to hit than the 3rd, so I feel like this should be a decent compromise
Mukyu~

Last edited by Sebu 2017-09-04T18:44:11+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

-GN

Champion Above Champions

734 posts

Joined June 2011

-GN 2017-09-04T17:10:48+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
sebu sucks
[-GN's pentagon :]
00:43:471 (3,4,5) - I would expect them straight after the slider and not a bit on the side of it to make like between 00:42:954 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/xpZmV/9fa948f7ee.png .
i aligned the triple properly here, but this really doesn't matter for playability so i'm keeping the shape. the two sliders are connected linearly because they're mapped to the same kind of sound
00:46:403 (3,4) - Could they have the same shape than 00:45:884 (1,2) - ? Would be more clean visually https://puu.sh/xpZp4/057a191eda.png .
i suppose
01:03:816 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Why spacing between both is so different ? 01:03:816 (1,2,3) - and 01:04:505 (3,4,5) - sounds the same but are done differently and make it weird. Would rather use a coherent one who respect same song part or a consistent spacing for both.
i don't think it sounds the same at all, also it's referencing the buildup. same pattern is found here 00:58:299 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5)
01:18:988 (1,2,3) - / 01:52:954 (2) - Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.
this actually sounds ridiculous to me, but i'll do it in accordance with the old hexagon diff
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Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-09-05T21:00:12+00:00

Trigon : 00:57:781 (3) - still not visible enough, also it's weird to stack this 1/2 after you did a huge spacing for the same gap for 00:57:436 (1,2) - .
Also try to see with Natsu is everything is clean before next step.

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-06T13:39:27+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Trigon : 00:57:781 (3) - still not visible enough, also it's weird to stack this 1/2 after you did a huge spacing for the same gap for 00:57:436 (1,2) - .

fixed this

Natsu

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Natsu 2017-09-12T01:33:54+00:00

-PC wrote:
Natsu wrote:
-PC's hexagon
00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action I get that you mean this is the start of a new beat, but that doesn't mean it needs to be clickable. Note how the sliderhead of 00:23:643 (3) - is a kick in the song? the slidertail is not. I feel the kick weighs way more than the definition of a starting beat, and in this case, I see zero issue not mapping a click to the sliderend. This pattern also flows really nicely into the next one imo. I really can't agree with your reasoning here, the end of the slider is basically the start of the melody of 00:23:988 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -, by not giving a click action to that beat you are really killing the song rhythm

-PC

00:04:161 (3,4,5,6) - the 4 beats stream sounds bad, since the music is suggesting you to bring click actions to only two of them 00:04:161 (3,5) - , check the top diff and listen how better the two 1/4 sliders sounds compared to your stream and tbh it's weird that you mapped a similar rhythm in a more properly way at 00:06:919 (3,4) - and we aren't talking about spacing, but rhythm

I'm fine with the rest of things

-PC

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-PC 2017-09-12T13:37:42+00:00

Natsu wrote:
-PC's hexagon
00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action I get that you mean this is the start of a new beat, but that doesn't mean it needs to be clickable. Note how the sliderhead of 00:23:643 (3) - is a kick in the song? the slidertail is not. I feel the kick weighs way more than the definition of a starting beat, and in this case, I see zero issue not mapping a click to the sliderend. This pattern also flows really nicely into the next one imo. I really can't agree with your reasoning here, the end of the slider is basically the start of the melody of 00:23:988 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -, by not giving a click action to that beat you are really killing the song rhythm Alright, I see what you mean and it makes sense, but it honestly kills the charm of this part changing this, especially if I need to make 00:23:643 (3) - a 1/4 slider. Closest I could get to mapping this beat without having two identical sliders for completely different sounds was to map 00:23:643 (3) - as a 3/8 slider with a circle on the new beat. It plays well and should be fine.

-PC

00:04:161 (3,4,5,6) - the 4 beats stream sounds bad, since the music is suggesting you to bring click actions to only two of them 00:04:161 (3,5) - , check the top diff and listen how better the two 1/4 sliders sounds compared to your stream and tbh it's weird that you mapped a similar rhythm in a more properly way at 00:06:919 (3,4) - and we aren't talking about spacing, but rhythm Yeah, these are inconsistent with the rest. Changed to sliders. Although I disagree the previous stream sounds bad, since it's mapped to the background arpeggio. (Also what's with comparing diffs? I checked top diff and 00:04:074 (3) - isn't mapped to any sound in the part you linked. 00:09:592 (3) - nor is this one sebu....)

Thanks!

.osu

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-09-12T15:51:59+00:00

Okay since Natsu is k with that, let's go~

Kaifin

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Kaifin 2017-09-12T22:04:26+00:00

congrats!

CXu

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CXu 2017-09-12T22:05:15+00:00

Actually why is this even in WIP and not pending xd

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-13T01:04:45+00:00

Kaifin wrote:
congrats!

thanks!

tochiii

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tochiii 2017-09-13T17:47:38+00:00

nice, gratz!

Natsu

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Natsu 2017-09-13T22:56:05+00:00

01:05:884 (4) - unsnapped tail (trigon)

call nozhomi for rebub and then call me for qualify

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-14T03:44:41+00:00

Natsu wrote:
01:05:884 (4) - unsnapped tail (trigon)

call nozhomi for rebub and then call me for qualify

well, thats kinda gay rip, will call u guys asap

Arutsuki

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Arutsuki 2017-09-14T08:58:35+00:00

Isn't a monogon just a straight line...
Also grats

Last edited by Arutsuki 2017-09-16T08:27:06+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-09-14T10:11:22+00:00

In geometry a monogon is a polygon with one edge and one vertex. It has Schläfli symbol. Since a monogon has only one side and only one vertex, every monogon is regular by definition.

Back~

Enon

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Enon 2017-09-14T23:48:11+00:00

btw Your title and name color are nice, Natsu Nozhomi!

Natsu

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Natsu 2017-09-15T12:34:11+00:00

Enon wrote:
btw Your title and name color are nice, Natsu Nozhomi!

thanks

jeanbernard8865

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jeanbernard8865 2017-09-15T12:38:49+00:00

Arutsuki wrote:
Isn't a monogon just a straight line...

I request royalties on this

anyway congrats on qual

CXu

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CXu 2017-09-15T16:00:45+00:00

Congrats!

Asphyxia

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Asphyxia 2017-09-15T18:11:19+00:00

Grats!!!

WORSTPOLACKEU

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WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-09-16T09:05:22+00:00

Finally, conGeeZ sebu D:

Avena

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Avena 2017-09-16T14:35:22+00:00

interesting map
but nc use is just like, ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2017-09-18T07:48:20+00:00

im not sure why unicode artist is 日本原声带, which is not even related to Sota Fujimori

http://www.konamistyle.jp/sp/jubeat_copious/index.html

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2017-09-18T14:13:15+00:00

disqualify to fix unicode artist

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-18T14:17:12+00:00

report _vu69 for giving me mp3 that autofilled unicode artist 1.5 years ago

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2017-09-18T14:19:03+00:00

ok back

Len

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Len 2017-09-18T20:08:57+00:00

the highest diff is masterpiece. really well done i love it

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-20T10:27:16+00:00

thanks everyone

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-GN 2017-09-22T19:32:31+00:00

yeeaaa i refcd

Rieri

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Rieri 2017-09-24T03:12:21+00:00

didnt really check the mods from before to see if this was already denied but

00:52:092 (1) - i can hear a distinct sound on 00:52:178 - but im not sure why you decided not to map it.

Sebu

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Sebu 2017-09-24T17:08:20+00:00

ProEzreal wrote:
didnt really check the mods from before to see if this was already denied but

00:52:092 (1) - i can hear a distinct sound on 00:52:178 - but im not sure why you decided not to map it.

The sound(or similar sounds) is often on yellow ticks(1/8ths) and switches between this, blues, reds and whites. so instead of just focusing on mapping each clickable object to it, it's more in the movement of sliders that represents the rhythm. example: 00:51:186 - 00:48:428 - . as you can see both of these have basically non-existent movement, while the one u pointed out 00:52:178 - has a lot higher pitch, hence the increased sv.

I mapped the section in a consistent way to make it easier to play while still trying to represent the variety in the song appropriately

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Chewin 2017-09-29T18:03:09+00:00

This is amazing

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-GN 2017-09-29T23:29:08+00:00

thanks

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Jenny 2018-01-18T03:03:10+00:00

This map is fucking brilliant man holy shit

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