Sota Fujimori - polygon

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Sebu

Manu028 wrote:

Modding by request!

[heptagone]
  1. 00:00:712 (1,1,2) - these curves are a little sharp, try to fix them
    I like them like this(i might be redoing this first section some time as people has struggled reading 1 specific part, but we'll see)
  2. 00:01:574 (2) - I suggest a NC here
    sure thing
  3. 00:08:299 (1,2,3) - I don't see why this is spaced more than the others triple
    the pitch is higher here, so it's more spaced to emphasize that.
  4. 00:17:609 (1,1,1) - They are a little sharp too, but considering the map is called "polygon" i'm starting to think this is not a mistake so i won't make any other points about sharp slider curves
    they are supposed to be sharp like this
  5. 00:29:678 (2) - this is a strong sound, maybe you could space it a little more like you did with the previous strong sounds
    the spacing is like this cuz its only supposed to differenciate the sound on these doublets 00:29:333 (1,2) - and the sound on this 00:28:988 (4,5,6,7,1,2) -
  6. 00:41:574 (5) - 2.1x SV on this (imo)
    I think it would be unnecessary and would ruin the look of 00:41:402 (4,5) -

  7. 00:50:368 (1,2,3,4) - Didn't get this spacing
    I think this spacing is fine?
  8. 01:19:678 (1,1) - the 1/8 sounds continue till the end of the second slider
    even tho the 1/8 sound continues, the voice overpowers it here and makes for a nice transition
  9. I think you should space this 01:23:816 (1,2,3,4) - from this 01:24:161 (5,6,7,8) - | same here with this 01:29:333 (1,2,3,1) - and this 01:29:678 (2,3,1,2) - (with same combos as before) | same here with this 01:36:230 (1,2,1,2) - and this 01:36:574 (1,2,1,2) - this whole point is personal don't take it too seriously
    I don't feel like the music supports a jump from these
  10. 01:46:919 (2) - I feel like a same but flipped version of this 01:46:574 (1) - is better here but it's personal so it's not that important
    hmm, maybe, but I think what I have now fits more with the style of the map :D



EDIT: I will mod other diffs tomorrow because i didn't have time today
thanks a bunch! (will update when full mod is here :>)
Manu028
Sorry if I'm late, but let's continue the mod (NO NEED TO GIVE KUDOSU HERE SINCE U DID ON THE PREVIOUS POST)

[-GN's pentagone]
  1. 00:46:403 (3,4) - idk if u noticed but there is a 1/8 sound here (just to point it out)
  2. 01:46:230 (1,2) - I see this double better with a slider like u did here 01:44:850 (1,2,3,4) -



[-PC's hexagone]
  1. 01:31:402 (1) - from this part you stop the jumpstreams and do normal streams instead, but tbh i don't see any change in the song, the intensity is litterally the same, to me it would be better to just continue like you did in the first section
  2. 01:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - okay, this is a cool idea, why is this the only stream with a polygon? if you really want to keep the second section without jumpstreams, it would be cool to see polygon-streams like this (imo)



Okay sorry for the short mod but i really enjoy both diffs and i liked almost all of them :!:
Topic Starter
Sebu
test123
SnivehNDraegonz
doubt i'll be able to mod this well lol

heptagon (should be the best shape, the octagon /s)
  • ~ 00:16:057 (2) - think this should have a larger SV because it has a higher pitch
    ~ 00:18:643 (1) - ^
    ~ 00:21:402 (1) - feels weird to end on a higher pitch note imo


this map is amazing +1
Gokateigo
  1. 00:00:540 (3,4) - start the angle of 4 under the tail of 3, it looks better
  2. 00:02:436 (5,6,7,8,1) - spacing should be higher here
  3. 00:12:781 (1,2,3) - pretty strong beats and they're all stacked, why ?
  4. 00:23:816 (1) - rotate by 180°, ctrl+g and do a perfect triangle with the tail of 3, the circle and the head of this one, looks better
  5. 00:30:540 (10) - it sounds like the sv should change here
  6. 01:02:350 (10,1) - looks weird
  7. 01:03:040 (5,6) - ^
  8. 01:06:316 (8,1) - eww, don't do that, it's a strong beat should be spaced + I'm not fan of the pattern
  9. 01:14:505 (6,7) - all this part flows pretty well but this breaks the flow without the reason
  1. 00:03:643 (1,2) - this kind of things looks weird
  2. 00:36:919 (1,2) - ^
  3. 01:29:333 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why ? there is no reasons to do that
  1. 00:03:643 (1,2) - stack this correctly
  2. 00:06:402 (1,2) - ^
  3. 00:09:161 (1,2) - ^


Hard to mod :( great map, gl
walter85
Hi! From my queue

[Tetragon]

00:02:436 (5,6,7,8,1) - This could be more good-looking, it looks handmade
00:23:643 (4,1) - Here you're kinda ignoring an important sound on 00:23:988 - , I think something like slider-slider fits better in the rhythm instead of circle-slider-arrow
00:58:299 (1,2,3,4) - You're skipping a white tick later, there's a quite important sound there
01:03:816 (1,2,3,4) - same
01:18:988 (1,2,3) - Maybe here you could keep the rotation pattern as before
01:20:368 - to 01:31:402 - I think you should be more consnstent here with kicksliders overlaps. Try overlapping them by the same amount for visual consistency, stuff like this 01:23:126 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - doesn't look very good
01:31:402 - to 01:42:350 - I know that the song gets more intense here, but sapced 1/4 like these 01:32:781 (1,2,3) - Are usually reserved for higher insanes and extra, or for things below 160bpm i think. Imo they should be nerfed, they won't hurt sr too much anyway, it would drop down to something like 4.59
01:47:954 - Skipped a sound
01:49:333 - same here

[-GN's pentagon]

00:02:436 (4,5,6,7) - I would've mapped that weird sound here but it's a subjective thing
00:24:333 (4,5) - Here red and white ticks stand out, I think the correct way is to make (4) a kickslider and make this 00:24:592 (6,7,8,9) - 5 notes instead of 4
00:28:730 (4) - Skipping a sound here, would be good to add a circle stacked on it
00:34:247 (4) - same
01:02:264 (2,3) - A slider shouldn't pass across important sounds
01:03:126 (8) - Triple here fits good
01:18:988 (1,2,3) - This plays very awkward, usually players will expect these to be 1/1 or 1/2 long, unless other types of rhythm have been made clear earlier on the map. Also, there are more important sounds on white ticks rather than red and blue, so you should either make 2 of them 1/1 long or 4 of them 1/4 long, they're both fine
01:42:436 (1,2,3) - Make this 4 notes long so you don't skip the white tick
01:47:868 (1) - Make this circle-1/4 slider, fits better imo
01:49:247 (10,1,2,3,4) - Same thing as before, skipping a beat

[-PC's hexagon]

Damn i love this diff :D
00:11:057 (5) - Maybe curve it a bit more? It looks way better to me
00:21:402 (1,2) - Maybe curve them the same amount as 00:20:712 (1,2) - for visual consistency, or vice versa
00:47:005 (2) - I don't get why is it here lol, I can't hear anything there
00:49:161 (4) - Would be nice if you kept it the same way as this 00:47:954 (1,2) - and made it go outward
00:54:505 (3,4) - Same here, I don't like things like these very much, but it's subjective
01:24:505 (1) - Center it a bit
01:41:747 (1,2,1) - Make these the same distance apart, because it plays like a triple, and having them spaced differently is a bit weird. Basically, just treat (2) as a circle and ignore the slidertail

[heptagon]

00:01:402 (1,2) - sv here should be inverted, following the previous logic, or at least be equal if you don't wanna under-emphasize the sound on the first slider
00:24:333 (1,1,1) - These SV changes, unlike before, are unjustified, since the second slider is as strong as the other two. You should make it equal sv
00:35:712 (5,6) - There are 1/8 sounds here. It's still ok like this, but it would be cool to add some 1/8 sliders maybe
00:47:264 - to 00:55:540 - sv here seems pretty random, sometimes you use fast sv on claps like 00:47:609 (1) -, sometimes slow like 00:48:299 (1) -. This is a pretty big inconsistency and you should fix it, either making clap sliders fast (recommended) or slow. You can't switch between them without justification
01:20:368 - to 01:31:402 - Spacing between jumpstreams is very inconsistent. We can divide this in two smaller sections with two jumpstreams each. In the first one, the spacing you use is basically 1.1x > 0.4x > 0.8x > stack and 1.1x > 0.8x > longer stack, while in the second section it changes to 1.1x > stack > 0.8x > 0.4x and 1.1x > 0.4 > longer stack. Since these two mini-sections are literally the same, spacing shouldn't change so drastically. Variety can't be a justification, since it only applies for minor variations, not major ones like this. (i'm considering things like these 01:26:230 (1,2,3,4) - stacks for semplicity)
01:31:402 - to kiai end: same concept as before but with more spacing

That's all! Hope it helps, good luck!
Topic Starter
Sebu

SnivehNDraegonz wrote:

doubt i'll be able to mod this well lol

heptagon (should be the best shape, the octagon /s)
  • ~ 00:16:057 (2) - think this should have a larger SV because it has a higher pitch
    ~ 00:18:643 (1) - ^
    I think the difference 00:15:713 (2,2) - (basically every other slider) makes it justifiable as in comparison to the other ones it has higher sv. It also looks better this way

    ~ 00:21:402 (1) - feels weird to end on a higher pitch note imo
    The reason behind this is to always keep the player "on their toes" so to speak, it acts as a reading challenge for the most part


this map is amazing +1
thank you :D

Gokateigo wrote:

  1. 00:00:540 (3,4) - start the angle of 4 under the tail of 3, it looks better
    did something
  2. 00:02:436 (5,6,7,8,1) - spacing should be higher here
    agreed, made it all 1.0x
  3. 00:12:781 (1,2,3) - pretty strong beats and they're all stacked, why ?
    kind of irregular rhythm, easier to read it stacked also no spacing can also be a way to emphasize
  4. 00:23:816 (1) - rotate by 180°, ctrl+g and do a perfect triangle with the tail of 3, the circle and the head of this one, looks better
    it's already a perfect triangle, and I think it looks better without the rotations :<
  5. 00:30:540 (10) - it sounds like the sv should change here
    don't feel like it's necessary with a sv change here on an insane diff
  6. 01:02:350 (10,1) - looks weird
  7. 01:03:040 (5,6) - ^
    made some changes
  8. 01:06:316 (8,1) - eww, don't do that, it's a strong beat should be spaced + I'm not fan of the pattern
    gotten a couple complaints about this now, so fine i changed up the order of the pattern afterwards
  9. 01:14:505 (6,7) - all this part flows pretty well but this breaks the flow without the reason
    changed up this entire part
  1. 00:03:643 (1,2) - stack this correctly
  2. 00:06:402 (1,2) - ^
  3. 00:09:161 (1,2) - ^
    not quite sure what you mean by this, they are supposed to be stacked like this?


Hard to mod :( great map, gl
thanks~

walter85 wrote:

Hi! From my queue

[Tetragon]

00:02:436 (5,6,7,8,1) - This could be more good-looking, it looks handmade
fixed in previous mod

00:23:643 (4,1) - Here you're kinda ignoring an important sound on 00:23:988 - , I think something like slider-slider fits better in the rhythm instead of circle-slider-arrow
as this is an insane, i feel like this should be fine(especially since it's done with the exact same slider before it)

00:58:299 (1,2,3,4) - You're skipping a white tick later, there's a quite important sound there
01:03:816 (1,2,3,4) - same
initally i wanted to ignore this and just focus on the instrument on the first 4 notes, but i agree. put a note on both places

01:18:988 (1,2,3) - Maybe here you could keep the rotation pattern as before
this part was changed in previous mod

01:20:368 - to 01:31:402 - I think you should be more consnstent here with kicksliders overlaps. Try overlapping them by the same amount for visual consistency, stuff like this 01:23:126 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - doesn't look very good
made overlaps more consistent

01:31:402 - to 01:42:350 - I know that the song gets more intense here, but sapced 1/4 like these 01:32:781 (1,2,3) - Are usually reserved for higher insanes and extra, or for things below 160bpm i think. Imo they should be nerfed, they won't hurt sr too much anyway, it would drop down to something like 4.59
I dont feel like this is too hard for a diff like this

01:47:954 - Skipped a sound
01:49:333 - same here
there are more than this like 01:45:540 - , but thats cuz im only following the synth or whatever thats playing

[heptagon]

00:01:402 (1,2) - sv here should be inverted, following the previous logic, or at least be equal if you don't wanna under-emphasize the sound on the first slider
i was kind of questioning this myself too, as for an explanation of this 00:00:712 (1,1) - is following the high pitch sound, and since it changes
here 00:01:402 (1) - to a much crazier sound, the SV is increased, however im not sure if the last slider 00:01:574 (2) - is justifiable with just being less intense than the previous one and therefore can be as short as it is, at the same time as it "completes" this pattern 00:00:712 (1,1,2) - . therefore i won't change it right now, but if i have to, I'll change it to the same slider as the previous one.


00:24:333 (1,1,1) - These SV changes, unlike before, are unjustified, since the second slider is as strong as the other two. You should make it equal sv
I dont see why this would be unjustified. the sound on these are not the same? 00:24:333 (1,1) -

00:35:712 (5,6) - There are 1/8 sounds here. It's still ok like this, but it would be cool to add some 1/8 sliders maybe
keeping as is

00:47:264 - to 00:55:540 - sv here seems pretty random, sometimes you use fast sv on claps like 00:47:609 (1) -, sometimes slow like 00:48:299 (1) -. This is a pretty big inconsistency and you should fix it, either making clap sliders fast (recommended) or slow. You can't switch between them without justification
I wouldn't say they are random, as there is a pattern to them. first fast - second slow, this is to compensate for the overpowering sounds of 00:48:643 (1,1,1) - to make them stand out more. ofc this could be done in other ways, but I found this one fitting

01:20:368 - to 01:31:402 - Spacing between jumpstreams is very inconsistent. We can divide this in two smaller sections with two jumpstreams each. In the first one, the spacing you use is basically 1.1x > 0.4x > 0.8x > stack and 1.1x > 0.8x > longer stack, while in the second section it changes to 1.1x > stack > 0.8x > 0.4x and 1.1x > 0.4 > longer stack. Since these two mini-sections are literally the same, spacing shouldn't change so drastically. Variety can't be a justification, since it only applies for minor variations, not major ones like this. (i'm considering things like these 01:26:230 (1,2,3,4) - stacks for semplicity)
When considering jumpstreams, spacing isnt the only factor to what makes it difficult. if im gonna use the same logic we have: 2 sections with 2 jumpstreams-parts, A-1, A-2, B-1 and B-2 where A-1 = B-1 and so on. the difference between a-1 and b-1 is as u said; 1.1x > 0.4x > 0.8x > stack || 1.1x > stack > 0.8x > 0.4x. so the stack and the 0.4x changes. however all of these play at about the same difficulty(i could explain for every case, but to make it short lets use one). on A-2 you have this jump 01:23:385 (4,1) - where the player needs to "jump back" and then continue movement in the same direction as the previous stream. the spacing here is lower than on B-2 01:28:902 (4,1) - because this kind of movement is usually simpler, therefore the jump to the next stream is larger but spacing of it is lower, making it justifiable "variations" so to speak. hopefully i explained well enough..
01:31:402 - to kiai end: same concept as before but with more spacing
?

That's all! Hope it helps, good luck!
thanks for modding everyone!
(reminder for myself that i need to fix hitsounds for tetragon when i get home xd...)
Mismagius
hello, sorry for being late
giving a quick check in other diffs, but won't really be too nitpicky

[monogon]
  1. 00:02:609 (2) - i think i'd probably NC this for intuitiveness, with the red tick & different sound / rhythm break. you did this on 00:24:505 (1) - for a similar situation.
  2. 01:32:781 (3,4,5,1) - i'd really recommend making things less overlappy here, it's the lowest diff in the mapset
  3. 01:38:298 (3,4,5,1) - same as above, something like this would work better imo
  4. 01:47:954 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - i'm not sure if i get the idea of this section, but 01:43:126 (1,2,3) - is a triangle and 01:45:195 (1,2,3,4) - is a square. maybe position 01:50:712 (1) - in a way that makes the third combo a pentagon?


[digon]
  1. 00:54:161 (1) - i'd try to mess around with this slider until the endpoint is at x267 y229 so it stacks with 00:56:574 (3) - and makes a good blanket with 00:55:540 (1) -
  2. 01:00:368 (2,3,1) - i'd try to arrange this triangle doing something like placing 01:00:368 (2) - at x388 y244, 01:00:712 (3) - at x444 y376 and 01:01:057 (1) - at x298 y358. looks nicer & stacks with the sliderend
  3. 01:13:471 (1) - IMO arranging this slider to make something like this would look nicer


[trigon]
  1. 00:14:850 (3,4,5,6,1) - i think the usage of 1/2 antijumps in ar8 and awkward rhythms just doesn't work well for a diff that seems to be a light insane. i'd rather use constant spacing here or something
  2. 00:38:977 - unsnapped timing section
  3. 00:45:195 (4,5,6,7) - ok for this one i DEFINITELY clicked them as 1/4s, this is just really hard to sightread for someone playing a 3* diff
  4. 01:00:368 (4) - i'd personally remove the last 2 repeats from this for rhythm simplification & making this more sightreadable
  5. 01:05:884 (4) - ^
  6. 01:07:781 (1,1) - pretty much impossible to read at ar8 for the players this diff is designed for. personally i'd just stack 01:07:781 (1) - at x272 y136
  7. 01:42:092 (4,5,6,1) - not sure about the rankability of this, (1)'s path is pretty much blocked by the triple for a long time


[tetragon]
  1. 00:11:402 (1,2,3) - aww, why the awkward overlapping here, you seemed to utilize larger spacing in the other 1/4 slider jumps
  2. 00:34:764 (7) - i said i wasn't gonna be nitpicky but move this note 2px up to make this triple straight
  3. 01:03:471 (1,2) - i'd apply normal hitsound soundset to these two
  4. 01:46:574 (1,2) - i think these two should be more spaced between them, really thought this was 1/4 at first


[pentagon]
  1. 00:59:161 (5,6,7) - because of the spacing i really couldn't predict that (5) had two repeats. i'd try to get (6,7) closer to it so it keeps a relation of continuity
  2. 01:03:126 (8) - moving (8) to x428 y224 would look nicer imo


[hexagon]
  1. 00:06:919 (3) - move 1px down for perfect stacking :^)
  2. 01:08:565 (8) - unsnapped

    really nice diff, loved this one


[heptagon]
  1. 00:05:368 (1,2) - didn't really understand this at first, i'd probably move these down 2px so it's at least clear this is a double and not a slider or something
  2. 00:22:005 (4) - stack perfectly with (1)'s sliderend pls i hate saying this but it just triggers me :(
  3. 00:33:816 (1) - NC here seems a bit odd, may just be me though
  4. 00:34:678 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - i'd probably space these combos farther away from each other, something like this should work well enough to make it better readable
  5. 00:37:954 (2) - 1px right SORRY I'LL STOP
  6. 00:39:850 (1) - not sure about this sliderend covering a strong beat, maybe make it a 1/4 slider & a note?
  7. 00:42:609 (1) - ^

    also really liked this diff


[octagon]


great job on this map, hope to see it ranked soon
CXu

Mismagius wrote:

[monogon]
  1. 00:02:609 (2) - i think i'd probably NC this for intuitiveness, with the red tick & different sound / rhythm break. you did this on 00:24:505 (1) - for a similar situation. - Sure.
  2. 01:32:781 (3,4,5,1) - i'd really recommend making things less overlappy here, it's the lowest diff in the mapset - Sure
  3. 01:38:298 (3,4,5,1) - same as above, something like this would work better imo - Sure
  4. 01:47:954 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - i'm not sure if i get the idea of this section, but 01:43:126 (1,2,3) - is a triangle and 01:45:195 (1,2,3,4) - is a square. maybe position 01:50:712 (1) - in a way that makes the third combo a pentagon? - The idea was that the slider before the triangle took up one of the circles for the first combo so I just made a triangle with it xddd. But good idea, Changed
Thanks!

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Topic Starter
Sebu

Mismagius wrote:

hello, sorry for being late
giving a quick check in other diffs, but won't really be too nitpicky
no worries :D

[digon]
  1. 00:54:161 (1) - i'd try to mess around with this slider until the endpoint is at x267 y229 so it stacks with 00:56:574 (3) - and makes a good blanket with 00:55:540 (1) -
    fixed
  2. 01:00:368 (2,3,1) - i'd try to arrange this triangle doing something like placing 01:00:368 (2) - at x388 y244, 01:00:712 (3) - at x444 y376 and 01:01:057 (1) - at x298 y358. looks nicer & stacks with the sliderend
    fixed
  3. 01:13:471 (1) - IMO arranging this slider to make something like this would look nicer
    cleaned it up a bit. made something similar


[trigon]
  1. 00:14:850 (3,4,5,6,1) - i think the usage of 1/2 antijumps in ar8 and awkward rhythms just doesn't work well for a diff that seems to be a light insane. i'd rather use constant spacing here or something
    made a couple changes.
  2. 00:38:977 - unsnapped timing section
    fixed
  3. 00:45:195 (4,5,6,7) - ok for this one i DEFINITELY clicked them as 1/4s, this is just really hard to sightread for someone playing a 3* diff
    learn to readmade them stacked :^)
  4. 01:00:368 (4) - i'd personally remove the last 2 repeats from this for rhythm simplification & making this more sightreadable
  5. 01:05:884 (4) - ^
    ait, removed for simplicity
  6. 01:07:781 (1,1) - pretty much impossible to read at ar8 for the players this diff is designed for. personally i'd just stack 01:07:781 (1) - at x272 y136
    agree, also stacked 01:07:523 (1) - with 01:06:574 (1) - so that it looks pretty
  7. 01:42:092 (4,5,6,1) - not sure about the rankability of this, (1)'s path is pretty much blocked by the triple for a long time
    made it stacked on sliderend, and fixed triangle accoringly


[tetragon]
  1. 00:11:402 (1,2,3) - aww, why the awkward overlapping here, you seemed to utilize larger spacing in the other 1/4 slider jumps
    changed
  2. 00:34:764 (7) - i said i wasn't gonna be nitpicky but move this note 2px up to make this triple straight
    fixed
  3. 01:03:471 (1,2) - i'd apply normal hitsound soundset to these two
    not so sure about that one
  4. 01:46:574 (1,2) - i think these two should be more spaced between them, really thought this was 1/4 at first
    spaced it out a bit


[heptagon]
  1. 00:05:368 (1,2) - didn't really understand this at first, i'd probably move these down 2px so it's at least clear this is a double and not a slider or something
    moved a bit
  2. 00:22:005 (4) - stack perfectly with (1)'s sliderend pls i hate saying this but it just triggers me :(
    whoops, should be good now
  3. 00:33:816 (1) - NC here seems a bit odd, may just be me though
    removed it, probably added by mistake
  4. 00:34:678 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - i'd probably space these combos farther away from each other, something like this should work well enough to make it better readable
    I feel like this would overemphasize them, and i don't really see the reading issue here? should be pretty obvious that they arent part of the previous stream imo
  5. 00:37:954 (2) - 1px right SORRY I'LL STOP
    keep em comin' B)
  6. 00:39:850 (1) - not sure about this sliderend covering a strong beat, maybe make it a 1/4 slider & a note?
  7. 00:42:609 (1) - ^
    modtly done to differenciate it from 00:39:505 (4,5) - and the doubles after, and since it still covered(even if by only a sliderend) it should be fine i feel.

    also really liked this diff
    thanks~


[octagon]


great job on this map, hope to see it ranked soon
thanks a lot :D
(all updated i think)
rock time
mod

gn's pentagon
00:15:712 (8,9,10) the way it is now doesnt play too well. Maybe ctrl+g 9 and 10?

00:17:781 (4,5,6) same here

why is 00:25:195 (1,2) farther spaced than 00:25:885 (4,5) ? they are the same sounds

same at 00:30:712 (1,2) etc

00:53:816 (6,7,1) separate them out a little more. all the other 1/4 slider jumps in this section are spaced so these should be too

everything in kiai time and past it is amazing dont change it

for some reason i feel the HP is too high... but maybe thats cuz i cant play at 7am


pc's hexagon


00:45:885 (1,2,4) maybe add whistles on 1 and 4 to highlight the "go" vocals

01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) on every other stream before you have NC's every 4 notes, whats different here?

same goes for 01:39:678



sorry for such a short mod, mapset is too good ;-;
plz rank this its so cool

good luck!
-GN

Manu028 wrote:

[-GN's pentagone]
  1. 00:46:403 (3,4) - idk if u noticed but there is a 1/8 sound here (just to point it out)
    :arrow:acceptable simplification imo
  2. 01:46:230 (1,2) - I see this double better with a slider like u did here 01:44:850 (1,2,3,4) -
    :arrow:fair enough

walter85 wrote:

[-GN's pentagon]

00:02:436 (4,5,6,7) - I would've mapped that weird sound here but it's a subjective thing
:arrow:i can't tell which sound you mean, doubles fit the best here anyway i think
00:24:333 (4,5) - Here red and white ticks stand out, I think the correct way is to make (4) a kickslider and make this 00:24:592 (6,7,8,9) - 5 notes instead of 4
:arrow:nah, i'm following the dominant sounds rather than the main beat here, this one in particular feels nice to play as a "drum fill" sort of thing
00:28:730 (4) - Skipping a sound here, would be good to add a circle stacked on it
:arrow:once again skipping the main beat
00:34:247 (4) - same
:arrow:^
01:02:264 (2,3) - A slider shouldn't pass across important sounds
:arrow:i really don't think the main beat is that important
01:03:126 (8) - Triple here fits good
:arrow:i believe you
01:18:988 (1,2,3) - This plays very awkward, usually players will expect these to be 1/1 or 1/2 long, unless other types of rhythm have been made clear earlier on the map. Also, there are more important sounds on white ticks rather than red and blue, so you should either make 2 of them 1/1 long or 4 of them 1/4 long, they're both fine
:arrow:i'll change this later once i reply to other mods
01:42:436 (1,2,3) - Make this 4 notes long so you don't skip the white tick
01:47:868 (1) - Make this circle-1/4 slider, fits better imo
01:49:247 (10,1,2,3,4) - Same thing as before, skipping a beat
:arrow:denying the rest. i'm STRICTLY following the dominant instrument here, nothing else
doing the rest when i get my proper pc set up again
-PC

Manu028 wrote:

[-PC's hexagone]
  1. 01:31:402 (1) - from this part you stop the jumpstreams and do normal streams instead, but tbh i don't see any change in the song, the intensity is litterally the same, to me it would be better to just continue like you did in the first section :arrow:I've previously explained how I think this pattern would be too repetitive if I continue the jumpstreams in Smoothie World's mod, but let me get into a little bit more detail:

    This entire map and song is constructed so that rhythm changes after 8 whole beats. I reflect this in my map accordinly. My first statement is true for everything except the kiai section, which for some reason is 16 beats. This is cool for the song, since it shows a really nice change of pace, switching from the regular 8 beat pattern to a 16 beat pattern. But as a mapper, I want the map itself to be as interesting as possible. Sure, maybe some players would find 16 beats jumpstreams more fun. Maybe someone would enjoy 16 beat streams. The point is, as a mapper, THE MAPPER decides how to construct their map. Sure, it should reflect the music, but doesn't it still reflect it? This is a variation in the map which still flows with the song, and in my opinion it makes the map more interesting. (although this is an old map and I would've considered this more before mapping it back then please don't kill me)

    Anyway, I'm leaving the stream part as I want to keep the 8 beat pattern to provide interest. I don't really see the change as an issue.
  2. 01:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - okay, this is a cool idea, why is this the only stream with a polygon? if you really want to keep the second section without jumpstreams, it would be cool to see polygon-streams like this (imo) :arrow:I have to agree. -GN did this in his mapset. Although this never occured to me while mapping, and the square stream was purely due to me just thinking it could be fun to play. I won't remap any of this. (also to not overwrite previous mods and since sebu wants this ranked like now)
Thanks for the mod! I apologize if I seem overly critical about that first point, but I really mean it. (kinda)

Gokateigo wrote:

  1. 00:03:643 (1,2) - this kind of things looks weird :arrow:Yeah, changed this.
  2. 00:36:919 (1,2) - ^ :arrow:I like this one.
  3. 01:29:333 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why ? there is no reasons to do that :arrow:this looks cool and stops motion like the previous pattern at 01:23:816 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . Made the spacing a litt bigger though.
Thanks for the mod!

walter85 wrote:

[-PC's hexagon]Damn i love this diff :D:arrow:Thank you <3
00:11:057 (5) - Maybe curve it a bit more? It looks way better to me :arrow:I really like this one without a full curve. The rest of the map also has no full curve sliders with multiple points other than s-bend sliders.
00:21:402 (1,2) - Maybe curve them the same amount as 00:20:712 (1,2) - for visual consistency, or vice versa :arrow:Did this and changed this pattern quite a bit to match intensity and to not be a terrible pattern.
00:47:005 (2) - I don't get why is it here lol, I can't hear anything there :arrow:Basically mapping to the same sound as I have been doing the entire map, e.g 00:45:540 (4,5,6,7) - . Kinda cheating but I wanted to emphasize on streams.
00:49:161 (4) - Would be nice if you kept it the same way as this 00:47:954 (1,2) - and made it go outward :arrow:I prefer the norwegian read-ish way :^) I like how they both center towards the blanket I guess, and it's a nice pattern I don't see very often. Plays alright to me.
00:54:505 (3,4) - Same here, I don't like things like these very much, but it's subjective :arrow:^
01:24:505 (1) - Center it a bit :arrow:Fixed.
01:41:747 (1,2,1) - Make these the same distance apart, because it plays like a triple, and having them spaced differently is a bit weird. Basically, just treat (2) as a circle and ignore the slidertail :arrow:I agree that this could be seen as a triple, but I seriously think the slider makes this one stand out as a circle and some strange appendix to the 1/2 slider. idk, I feel it plays better as is than spacing the 1/2 slider further out.
Thanks for the mod! \:D/

Mismagius wrote:

[hexagon]
  1. 00:06:919 (3) - move 1px down for perfect stacking :^) :arrow:Fixed.
  2. 01:08:565 (8) - unsnapped :arrow:what the hell.

    really nice diff, loved this one :arrow:Thanks!

Thanks for the mod!

fufu- wrote:

pc's hexagon
aimod :arrow:Fixed in previous mod.
00:45:885 (1,2,4) maybe add whistles on 1 and 4 to highlight the "go" vocals :arrow:Nice, good idea. Added although I'll have to discuss with sebu later (we just copy hitsounds from my diff).

01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) on every other stream before you have NC's every 4 notes, whats different here? :arrow:uh I suppose it's more natural with the way this stream is mapped. Might decide to change the second and third streams later, since it kinda makes more sense.

same goes for 01:39:678 :arrow:yeah, instead of changing these I might change the others later.
Thanks!


.osu
Natsu
General

  1. 00:16:230 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:747 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:28:988 (4,5,6,7) - this and other places probably need more volume, since the streams gives little feedback (this happens in the other diffs as well I think)


heptagon

  1. 00:01:574 (1) - why the NC? the other pairs 00:00:712 (1,2,1,2) - don't have NCs, so I don't see any reason for this one to has NC, either NC all or none
  2. 00:05:368 (1,2) - maybe move them 2 or 3 grids down to make them more visible, I asked a few pro players to test and they had problems with this.
  3. 00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - your map looks really nice visually talking, that's why I was wonder about the ugly curve for this stream 00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - maybe you can improve it
  4. 00:35:540 (3) - add NC, so you can keep the pairs 00:35:023 (1,2,1,2) - in single combos.
  5. 01:09:850 (3,5) - stack them? idk it triggered me a lot
  6. 01:39:850 (3,4,1) - I don't think it flows that nicely, I got feedback from a few players and they said was uncomfortable to play.
  7. 01:41:747 (1,1) - you don't need to spam combos like this, specially because the first object is a circle.


-PC's hexagon

  1. 00:01:057 (1,2) - this doesn't fit the song rhythm that well, because the slider tail of 1 should be click'able as you did with 00:00:626 (4,2) - , I'd do 2 1/4 sliders or a circle and a 1/4 slider
  2. 00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - the stream fails to represent the song properly, use something similar at what the top diff do
  3. 00:18:471 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - same, mapping every sound don't let you represent the song properly, doing sliders as you did before would bring emphasis to right beats at this section
  4. 00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action
  5. 00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - same issue, mapping the full stream kills the emphasis of the strong beats, maybe do something as the top diff do?
  6. 00:40:712 (3,4,1) - why the spacing is that different, I get that you want to bring more spacing to 4, but 4 to 1 is super short xd
  7. 00:57:609 (1) - the tail of the slider is the start of a new melody and needs to be clic'able, use a 1/4 slider and then circles
  8. 01:03:299 (2) - same as above
  9. 01:08:816 (1) - unnecessary NC
  10. 01:16:230 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - all the streams at this section needs more volume


-GN's pentagon

  1. 00:09:161 (3,4) - 00:11:919 (3,4) - a 1/4 slider would fit the music better, 4 being a circle doesn't fit the song and it's weird to click, because the song doesn't provide a clear beat there.
  2. 00:12:781 (1,2,3) - add a bit more spacing so they don't overlap (with some custom skins) and 00:13:040 (2,3) - is overlaped with the default skin
  3. 00:28:212 (2,3,4) - 00:33:730 (2,3,4) - the drums being ignored is so weird and doesn't really fit the music a lot, atleast map them as slider tails or something.
  4. 00:34:505 (5,6) - the sounds at the triplet are super strong that's why the triplet being overlaped with 5 doesn't fit the song.
  5. 00:35:885 (5,6) - same as above, I'm poiting this things mainly because you used 1/4 jumps for beats with less emphasis for example 00:38:643 (7,8) -
  6. 00:43:212 (2,3,4,5) - vs 00:46:574 (4,5,6,7) - 00:57:609 (4,1) - vs 00:57:954 (3,1) - same, idk I really think that you should check the map again and make the spacing consistent at this things, either space them or overlap them all
  7. 00:41:230 (6,7) - a slider would fit better the main melody of the song.
  8. 00:59:161 (5) - 01:04:678 (5) - 2 1/4 sliders are better, since with the single repeat slider you're killing the emphasis of the white tick
  9. 01:17:781 (2,3) - use a slider instead to bring more emphasis to those sounds and start the stream at 01:17:954 (4) - with the funny vocals
  10. 01:19:678 (1,2,3,4) - this should be a full stream to represent the song better, the 1/2 pause doesn't much sense with the song tbh.


tetragon

  1. 00:04:850 (3,4) - a slider would fit better the music,tbh clicking 4 after clicking 2 and 3 with other rhythm is super weird
  2. 00:41:230 (1,2,3) - 2 1/4 sliders would represent better the music, 2 don't have the same emphasis and rhythm as 1 and 3


trigon
  1. 00:42:954 (6,1) - spacing is too short.
  2. 01:17:954 (1) - sounds better if you extend it to the next white tick


digon
  1. 00:14:850 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - eh the bigger issue I have with this diff is the 1/2s being overlapped, use more spacing.
  2. 00:42:436 (2) - add a repeat to this slider, since the next white tick also belongs to the main melody of the song
  3. 00:43:730 (2,3) - realy weird rhythm, it can be confused for low lvl players, since the drums are being ignored and the weird gaps in the time line also don't help
  4. 01:01:057 (1,2,1) - too empty rhythm, atleast make them 1/1 sliders
  5. 01:06:574 (1,2,3,4) - again the overlaps, they need more spacing
  6. 01:21:057 (3,4,1) - they are overlapped because of the stack leniency of 4 and 1
  7. 01:23:816 (3,4) - blanket is off


CXu's monogon
  1. AR is too low, use AR 4 , since new players had problems with super low AR like your current one
  2. 00:01:747 (1,1) - NCs are too spammy for no reason.
  3. 00:02:609 (1) - this slider is ending on a important stanza, it needs to be click'able, because it's the intro of the fast melody
  4. 00:08:126 (2) - same
  5. 00:16:574 (5,1) - 00:19:333 (5,1) - 00:22:092 (4,1) - I'd ctrl G the rhythm, since the tail of 1 is the start of the melody
  6. 00:24:505 (1) - 01:08:643 (1) - remove NC it's too spammy
  7. 01:06:574 (1,2,3,1) - the way you overlap all this objects can be confused to play for new players, I'd rearrange them better.
  8. 01:17:954 (1,1) - too soon after a spinner, tbh I recommend to delete the spinner and add some big slider there
  9. 01:43:126 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - add some HS and add more volume, because they don't bring much feedback atm
CXu

Natsu wrote:

General

  1. 00:16:230 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:747 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:28:988 (4,5,6,7) - this and other places probably need more volume, since the streams gives little feedback (this happens in the other diffs as well I think)


CXu's monogon
  1. AR is too low, use AR 4 , since new players had problems with super low AR like your current one - Sure.
  2. 00:01:747 (1,1) - NCs are too spammy for no reason. - 00:02:609 (1) - It's the first 3/2, and it sounds fairly distinct that the NC seems reasonable for me.
  3. 00:02:609 (1) - this slider is ending on a important stanza, it needs to be click'able, because it's the intro of the fast melody - I disagree in general that downbeats have to be on clickable beats, and having them on longer slider's sliderends still gives an impact to them (you're holding down until you release for the feedback). It's the same concept as 01:42:092 (2) - , which you didn't really point out.
  4. 00:08:126 (2) - same - ^These are also consistent in where they appear in the map.
  5. 00:16:574 (5,1) - 00:19:333 (5,1) - 00:22:092 (4,1) - I'd ctrl G the rhythm, since the tail of 1 is the start of the melody - I'm pretty sure the downbeat here is the start of the melody. 00:16:919 - is low pitched, then goes high at 00:17:264 -
  6. 00:24:505 (1) - 01:08:643 (1) - remove NC it's too spammy - It's a new pattern and also the introduction of 1/2 in the map.
  7. 01:06:574 (1,2,3,1) - the way you overlap all this objects can be confused to play for new players, I'd rearrange them better. - I could make them more spaced to better show where the sliderheads are, but then the spacing would be kinda whack. Or I could make some other shape probably, but I figured I'd ask if you think just increasing the spacing and ignoring distance snap would be good enough here?
  8. 01:17:954 (1,1) - too soon after a spinner, tbh I recommend to delete the spinner and add some big slider there - There's a pretty big difference in feel of spinning a spinner (fairly active) and just following a slow sliderbody, and the vocals here are going pretty fast, so changing it to a slider doesn't really fit as well imo. And you get quite a bit of leeway to actually hit the next note, since it's a slider.
  9. 01:43:126 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - add some HS and add more volume, because they don't bring much feedback atm - Not sure what other HS I could put here, but I'll increase the volume a bit.
Thanks for modding :D Tell me if there's something you disagree with in terms of my rationale for things xd.

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Topic Starter
Sebu

Natsu wrote:

General

  1. 00:16:230 (1,2,3,4) - 00:21:747 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:28:988 (4,5,6,7) - this and other places probably need more volume, since the streams gives little feedback (this happens in the other diffs as well I think)
    gonna take a look at this with -PC later alright, fixed some hitsound volumes


heptagon

  1. 00:01:574 (1) - why the NC? the other pairs 00:00:712 (1,2,1,2) - don't have NCs, so I don't see any reason for this one to has NC, either NC all or none
    this was changed to have and NC in a previous mod, but I'll revert it(to no NC)
  2. 00:05:368 (1,2) - maybe move them 2 or 3 grids down to make them more visible, I asked a few pro players to test and they had problems with this.
    this used to be even more stacked, and was changed to be more "visible" in mismagius' mod. after the change I havent seen anyone have problems reading this stack so I'm gonna have to disagree to a change here as i don't think it's an issue. also moving the last 2 circles even more down would ruin the aesthetic in my opinion
  3. 00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - your map looks really nice visually talking, that's why I was wonder about the ugly curve for this stream 00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - maybe you can improve it
    not sure quite what you mean here. I find this very pleasing to look at. only thing i could see working is stacking the two first notes on (3).
  4. 00:35:540 (3) - add NC, so you can keep the pairs 00:35:023 (1,2,1,2) - in single combos.
    alright
  5. 01:09:850 (3,5) - stack them? idk it triggered me a lot
    sure, stack it is
  6. 01:39:850 (3,4,1) - I don't think it flows that nicely, I got feedback from a few players and they said was uncomfortable to play.
    havent really had an issue with this myself, but I made the stack 01:40:023 (1,2,3,4) - less spacing, which should make it easier to just snap to and stay still with the cursor, which in return should make the pattern itself easier to hit. not necessarily less awkward, but easier.
  7. 01:41:747 (1,1) - you don't need to spam combos like this, specially because the first object is a circle.
    I kind of feel like this NC'ing is necessary to make the player understand that this indeed plays like a triplet. I might be wrong tho


tetragon

  1. 00:04:850 (3,4) - a slider would fit better the music,tbh clicking 4 after clicking 2 and 3 with other rhythm is super weird
    changed it up a bit
  2. 00:41:230 (1,2,3) - 2 1/4 sliders would represent better the music, 2 don't have the same emphasis and rhythm as 1 and 3
    changed :>


trigon
  1. 00:42:954 (6,1) - spacing is too short.
    changed
  2. 01:17:954 (1) - sounds better if you extend it to the next white tick
    stopped spinner early to give the player more time to adjust their cursor, but I'll extent it cuz you say it


digon
  1. 00:14:850 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - eh the bigger issue I have with this diff is the 1/2s being overlapped, use more spacing.
    i do very much agree with this. changed where i had to.
  2. 00:42:436 (2) - add a repeat to this slider, since the next white tick also belongs to the main melody of the song
    did this and fixed spacing for next slider too
  3. 00:43:730 (2,3) - realy weird rhythm, it can be confused for low lvl players, since the drums are being ignored and the weird gaps in the time line also don't help
    I'm not sure as to what other rhythm i would use then. the distance to the next object should at least make it somewhat readable for a newer player, but if you could give me another example of a rhythm i could use, that would be really helpful
  4. 01:01:057 (1,2,1) - too empty rhythm, atleast make them 1/1 sliders
    fixed. not sure if the current one is better or not tho
  5. 01:06:574 (1,2,3,4) - again the overlaps, they need more spacing
    fixed
  6. 01:21:057 (3,4,1) - they are overlapped because of the stack leniency of 4 and 1
    changed
  7. 01:23:816 (3,4) - blanket is off
    fixed
-GN

Mismagius wrote:

[pentagon]
  1. 00:59:161 (5,6,7) - because of the spacing i really couldn't predict that (5) had two repeats. i'd try to get (6,7) closer to it so it keeps a relation of continuity
    :arrow:removed the last repeat instead. sounds better to me anyway
  2. 01:03:126 (8) - moving (8) to x428 y224 would look nicer imo
    :arrow:fixed

fufu- wrote:

gn's pentagon
00:15:712 (8,9,10) the way it is now doesnt play too well. Maybe ctrl+g 9 and 10?
00:17:781 (4,5,6) same here
:arrow:requiring a bit of aim control can't be that bad

why is 00:25:195 (1,2) farther spaced than 00:25:885 (4,5) ? they are the same sounds
same at 00:30:712 (1,2) etc
:arrow:fixed, don't know what you mean by etc though

00:53:816 (6,7,1) separate them out a little more. all the other 1/4 slider jumps in this section are spaced so these should be too
:arrow:i changed the angles of the sliders so they look more spaced but actually arent. matches 00:55:195 (5,6,1) - now though

everything in kiai time and past it is amazing dont change it
:arrow:cool

for some reason i feel the HP is too high... but maybe thats cuz i cant play at 7am
i seriously doubt it is

Natsu wrote:

-GN's pentagon

  1. 00:09:161 (3,4) - 00:11:919 (3,4) - a 1/4 slider would fit the music better, 4 being a circle doesn't fit the song and it's weird to click, because the song doesn't provide a clear beat there.
    :arrow:fixed
  2. 00:12:781 (1,2,3) - add a bit more spacing so they don't overlap (with some custom skins) and 00:13:040 (2,3) - is overlaped with the default skin
    :arrow:made the spacing consistent(it doesn't overlap on default), but i really don't see the need to increase it further
  3. 00:28:212 (2,3,4) - 00:33:730 (2,3,4) - the drums being ignored is so weird and doesn't really fit the music a lot, atleast map them as slider tails or something.
    :arrow:that would just be confusing, i don't want to deviate from the main instrument here
  4. 00:34:505 (5,6) - the sounds at the triplet are super strong that's why the triplet being overlaped with 5 doesn't fit the song.
    :arrow:alright moved the triple a bit
  5. 00:35:885 (5,6) - same as above, I'm poiting this things mainly because you used 1/4 jumps for beats with less emphasis for example 00:38:643 (7,8) -
    :arrow:this is for playability's sake, i don't want the strong triple here require consistent accuracy because it comes right after a 1/8 slider
  6. 00:43:212 (2,3,4,5) - vs 00:46:574 (4,5,6,7) -
    :arrow:these really aren't comparable. first one is part of a pattern i want to be easily playable, the other one is the end drum pattern of a phrase, they're not all meant to be consistent
  7. 00:57:609 (4,1) - vs 00:57:954 (3,1) - same, idk I really think that you should check the map again and make the spacing consistent at this things, either space them or overlap them all
    :arrow:i disagree, this example is just for visuals and has no bearing on playability. i think the context(middle of patterns vs ending of patterns) makes these variations acceptable
  8. 00:41:230 (6,7) - a slider would fit better the main melody of the song.
    :arrow:true
  9. 00:59:161 (5) - 01:04:678 (5) - 2 1/4 sliders are better, since with the single repeat slider you're killing the emphasis of the white tick
    :arrow:i reduced these sliders by one repeat, i disagree with the emphasis as i'm not following the drums primarily anyway
  10. 01:17:781 (2,3) - use a slider instead to bring more emphasis to those sounds and start the stream at 01:17:954 (4) - with the funny vocals
    :arrow:done
  11. 01:19:678 (1,2,3,4) - this should be a full stream to represent the song better, the 1/2 pause doesn't much sense with the song tbh.
    :arrow:what? this follows the vocals. i added a 1/4 slider here after the triple, but it might be a bit precise for a 5*


thx for mods

sebu
-PC

Natsu wrote:

-PC's hexagon
  1. 00:01:057 (1,2) - this doesn't fit the song rhythm that well, because the slider tail of 1 should be click'able as you did with 00:00:626 (4,2) - , I'd do 2 1/4 sliders or a circle and a 1/4 slider :arrow:While yes, it seems the sliderend should be clickable, I don't highlight the same sound here (consider the slider following at 00:01:402 (1) - , 00:01:919 (2) - ). I feel the current pattern fits the song better since this sound fades away during the intro segment.
  2. 00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - the stream fails to represent the song properly, use something similar at what the top diff do :arrow:I completely disagree. The entire previous segment utilized spacing and movement for the intensity. This pattern provides the map version of change in intensity. Spacing is reduced a lot, the streams are mapped to the background arpeggio. At the next sound, 00:13:040 (1) - , spacing is again increased, with a square stream. To me this is without a doubt functional for this part of the map. Intensity != spacing
  3. 00:18:471 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - same, mapping every sound don't let you represent the song properly, doing sliders as you did before would bring emphasis to right beats at this section :arrow:Agree with this one.
  4. 00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action :arrow:I get that you mean this is the start of a new beat, but that doesn't mean it needs to be clickable. Note how the sliderhead of 00:23:643 (3) - is a kick in the song? the slidertail is not. I feel the kick weighs way more than the definition of a starting beat, and in this case, I see zero issue not mapping a click to the sliderend. This pattern also flows really nicely into the next one imo.
  5. 00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - same issue, mapping the full stream kills the emphasis of the strong beats, maybe do something as the top diff do? :arrow:I really don't feel this one is very intense, and as such, the low spaced stream is enough to justify the "intensity" difference. Low spacing also builds up to the stream directly after it, which in contrast uses higher spacing to emphasise intensity.
  6. 00:40:712 (3,4,1) - why the spacing is that different, I get that you want to bring more spacing to 4, but 4 to 1 is super short xd :arrow:Yeah, moved this one closer and with less difference in spacing.
  7. 00:57:609 (1) - the tail of the slider is the start of a new melody and needs to be clic'able, use a 1/4 slider and then circles :arrow:Sure.
  8. 01:03:299 (2) - same as above :arrow:Alright.
  9. 01:08:816 (1) - unnecessary NC :arrow:Fixed.
  10. 01:16:230 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - all the streams at this section needs more volume :arrow:Sebu should have fixed this.
Thanks for the mod!

.osu
Nozhomi
[General :]
  1. 00:00:368 - Remove this greenline of diff you don't change SV with. And if you use SV change put same volume on both timing and inherited point.


[CXu's monogon :]
  1. 00:01:057 (2,1) - Overlap and proximity could be a bit messy for a newbie, would move it at 120:148.
  2. 00:02:609 (1) - Make it start at 00:02:436 - . The sound on it is maybe weaker than 00:02:609 - but still player will expect to play it and also avoid a polarity issues by not respecting the 1/1 gap. Also end it on 00:02:781 - and make 00:03:126 - playable would be nice since it's such a strong beat.
  3. 00:29:333 (3,1) - The small overlap triggers me.
  4. 01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - High density patterns should be avoided, they're just a pain to be read easiely. Simplify structure a bit to make it more readable.
  5. 01:37:609 (2,4) - Other overlap z.
  6. 01:51:402 (1) - Tbh this NC alone make no sense with rest of your pattern.


[digon :]
  1. 00:23:816 (3) - NC is not necessary if you want to keep like how you did them before.


[trigon :]
  1. 00:57:609 (2,3) - I would avoid the stack to make sure arrow is readable. Right now it's too hidden behind the circle.
  2. 01:04:333 (2,3,4) - Use simple stack pls, that's not an Insane and could be a bit disturbing.
  3. 01:07:781 (1,1) - Spacing is too low and don't give the good visual rhythm from it. Also once again, reverse arrow is not much visible with 01:08:385 (6,7) - .
  4. 01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This kind of pattern is a big no. Clearly a pattern you would see more on an Insane or above, but the reading is not the best and playability too edgy for that diff. Also nothing on the song call for 01:31:402 (1,2) - being stacked. Simple stack or small burst like https://puu.sh/xpYvO/44cc236e40.png would definitly be better.


[tetragon :]
  1. 00:57:781 (3,4,5) - Unstack them, the 1st of them is really hard to catch correctly due to it and lead to a easy unwanted break. Just space them a bit is enough.
  2. 00:35:540 (2) - / 01:08:471 (7) - / 01:18:988 (1,2) - / 01:52:954 (3) - and more if I forgot some -> Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.


[-GN's pentagon :]
  1. 00:43:471 (3,4,5) - I would expect them straight after the slider and not a bit on the side of it to make like between 00:42:954 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/xpZmV/9fa948f7ee.png .
  2. 00:46:403 (3,4) - Could they have the same shape than 00:45:884 (1,2) - ? Would be more clean visually https://puu.sh/xpZp4/057a191eda.png .
  3. 01:03:816 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Why spacing between both is so different ? 01:03:816 (1,2,3) - and 01:04:505 (3,4,5) - sounds the same but are done differently and make it weird. Would rather use a coherent one who respect same song part or a consistent spacing for both.
  4. 01:18:988 (1,2,3) - / 01:52:954 (2) - Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.


[-PC's hexagon :]
  1. First, I agree with Natsu about stuff like 00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - / 00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - / etc who don't provide a correct feedback of what the song offer. Ignoring these strong sounds for background one is confusing and sounds a bit off, and make your diff more flat since you're using too often these kind of structure.
  2. Second, on kiai I don't see the point of doing jump streams on 1st half if you just don't on the 2nd half. I would rather do all of them without and just play with spacing like you did from 01:31:402 - . There's no major differences to make a such change.


[heptagon :]
  1. 00:01:919 (1,2,3) - I would stack them to create a similar effect like 00:02:436 (1,2,3) - who share the same kind of sound, also represent more the rhythm you used here -> https://puu.sh/xq0Nk/a3f88d0ea3.png .
    00:05:195 (1,2,1,2) - If I believe what you answered to Natsu, then why spacing is different from stuff like 00:10:712 (1,2,3,4) - who share exactly the same rhythm and music ? They should yes.
  2. 00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - Natsu means the curve could be a bit better, the angle you did with 00:32:436 (3,4) - is a bit broken and could be more smooth.
  3. 01:31:057 (1,2,3) - Imo that's a bit overkill for a 1/4. The back and forth create a non intuitive pattern to follow unlike stuff like 01:42:092 (1,2,3) - .

Mukyu~
CXu

Nozhomi wrote:

[notice][General :]
  1. 00:00:368 - Remove this greenline of diff you don't change SV with. And if you use SV change put same volume on both timing and inherited point. -
    Removed.


[CXu's monogon :]
  1. 00:01:057 (2,1) - Overlap and proximity could be a bit messy for a newbie, would move it at 120:148. - Eh, the new combo and general order of fade in should be decent enough indicators even for a new player imo. While it is the easiest difficulty, it's also not exactly mapped for a complete beginner.
  2. 00:02:609 (1) - Make it start at 00:02:436 - . The sound on it is maybe weaker than 00:02:609 - but still player will expect to play it and also avoid a polarity issues by not respecting the 1/1 gap. Also end it on 00:02:781 - and make 00:03:126 - playable would be nice since it's such a strong beat. - You can actually hit the sliderhead at a 1/1 timing and not sliderbreak due to the low OD here, so I don't see it as much of a problem. The map also features polarity changes (albeit not a lot) later on, so introducing it early seems like a good idea to me. As for the stronger beat at the sliderend, it might just be my opinion on it, but combinations of hitsounds and length of sliders can still make a sliderend (and then the release of a note) feel more important than the head. Maybe it's a bit more old school interpretation as it definitely was more common to do it back in the days compared to now, but yeah, I personally never had a problem with it.
  3. 00:29:333 (3,1) - The small overlap triggers me. - lmao fixed.
  4. 01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - High density patterns should be avoided, they're just a pain to be read easiely. Simplify structure a bit to make it more readable.
    - If you mean rhythmically dense, then I think it's simple enough and I also repeat the same rhythm several times through the kiai. If you mean just the way things overlap/stack, then I can fix that. Tell me if that's what you meant.
  5. 01:37:609 (2,4) - Other overlap z. - Can't really avoid it due to spacing, and spacing this part different would look out of place compared to the other patterns.
  6. 01:51:402 (1) - Tbh this NC alone make no sense with rest of your pattern. - Eh it's just for aesthetic reasons to not make a pentagon have 6 notes in it,
    and it's also isolated from the previous patterns by being in the middle.
Thanks for modding!

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