2016-05-25 14:42 Cryptic: wanna mod a trash map?
2016-05-25 14:43 Kuki: i guess
2016-05-25 14:43 Cryptic: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/903997 KISIDA KYODAN & THE AKEBOSI ROCKETS - GATE II ~Sekai o Koete~ (TV-size) [Beyond the World]]
2016-05-25 14:43 Cryptic: I remapped that completely
2016-05-25 14:43 Cryptic: Just rip it apart fam
2016-05-25 14:43 Cryptic: I want to go for rank w/ it
2016-05-25 14:43 Kuki: good luck
2016-05-25 14:43 Kuki: i mean
2016-05-25 14:43 Kuki: really
2016-05-25 14:43 Kuki: u can rank anything now
2016-05-25 14:43 Cryptic: Also, hitsounds are coming for it so ignore that
2016-05-25 14:43 Kuki: u know bns right?
2016-05-25 14:43 Cryptic: and yeah you can
2016-05-25 14:44 Cryptic: I have 3 mutualed, so ye
2016-05-25 14:44 Kuki: cool.
2016-05-25 14:44 Kuki: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/903997 KISIDA KYODAN & THE AKEBOSI ROCKETS - GATE II ~Sekai o Koete~ (TV-size) [Beyond the World]]
2016-05-25 14:44 Kuki: 00:01:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - this combo is so long for a deathstream haha
2016-05-25 14:44 Cryptic: can you do non-IRC?
2016-05-25 14:44 Cryptic: or is IRC easier for you?
2016-05-25 14:44 Kuki: irc is ideal
2016-05-25 14:44 Kuki: cause it's easier
2016-05-25 14:45 Cryptic: aight
2016-05-25 14:45 Cryptic: fair enough, yeah
2016-05-25 14:45 Kuki: this way too we can talk about it directly instead of me spitting shit all over a thread like usual
2016-05-25 14:45 Cryptic: its long, but its all kind of the same drum fill
2016-05-25 14:45 Cryptic: so I figured it'd be fine.
2016-05-25 14:45 Kuki: yeah but i think u need to cut some slack
2016-05-25 14:46 Kuki: idk i mean u can keep it
2016-05-25 14:46 Kuki: it's probably ok
2016-05-25 14:46 Kuki: i just feel like it could be too hard
2016-05-25 14:46 Kuki: i mean the map is seven stars
2016-05-25 14:46 Kuki: but like
2016-05-25 14:46 Kuki: failing at the start seems viable if u can't stream that high perfectly
2016-05-25 14:47 Kuki: idk
2016-05-25 14:47 Kuki: nevermind
2016-05-25 14:47 Kuki: it's only 200 i guess
2016-05-25 14:47 Cryptic: Well, its right at the opening, so even if it does increase difficulty a tiny bit, I think it'd be okay.
2016-05-25 14:47 Cryptic: Playtesters didn't really ahve any issues with the combo
2016-05-25 14:47 Kuki: i just can't play well anymore so it's harder than it actually is
2016-05-25 14:47 Kuki: yeah
2016-05-25 14:48 Kuki: 00:04:507 (3,1,2,1,2) - i rly hate this
2016-05-25 14:48 Kuki: it's like
2016-05-25 14:48 Kuki: so uncomfortable
2016-05-25 14:48 Cryptic: Do you have any alternatives?
2016-05-25 14:48 Kuki: super high ds
2016-05-25 14:48 Kuki: too high i think
2016-05-25 14:48 Cryptic: Because I agree, it can definitely be improved
2016-05-25 14:48 Kuki: let me see
2016-05-25 14:48 Cryptic: well, I don't think the DS is too high tbh
2016-05-25 14:48 Kuki: 00:04:507 (3,1) - i also feel like this could look a bit better
2016-05-25 14:48 Kuki: it's not that bad but with the angles it's on i think it is
2016-05-25 14:49 Cryptic: so you basically think it just looks ugly? xD
2016-05-25 14:50 Kuki: no just the blanket thing i'm not a fan of at the beginning
2016-05-25 14:50 Kuki: well
2016-05-25 14:50 Kuki: it also doesn't look nice
2016-05-25 14:50 Kuki:
http://puu.sh/p4bL3/3ea87ee2b6.jpg2016-05-25 14:50 Kuki: i guess
2016-05-25 14:50 Kuki: this is good
2016-05-25 14:50 Kuki: just working out a place for 00:05:089 (1) -
2016-05-25 14:51 Kuki: 00:04:944 (2) - x35 y37
2016-05-25 14:51 Kuki: i was thinking actually
2016-05-25 14:52 Kuki: maybe a double at 00:05:089 (3) -
2016-05-25 14:52 Kuki: but stack on the sliderend of 00:05:235 (5) -
2016-05-25 14:52 Cryptic: wait
2016-05-25 14:52 Cryptic: so
2016-05-25 14:52 Cryptic: a double into that slider?
2016-05-25 14:52 Cryptic: that seems harsh as fuck
2016-05-25 14:53 Kuki: idk i mean like
2016-05-25 14:53 Kuki: u can get away with it
2016-05-25 14:53 Kuki: "emphasis"
2016-05-25 14:53 Kuki: idk that's the only thing i think looks nice
2016-05-25 14:53 Kuki: maybe u can work out another way
2016-05-25 14:53 Cryptic: I think the placementof the sliders themselves work well for emphasis tbh
2016-05-25 14:53 Cryptic: I'll make it a bit prettier though
2016-05-25 14:54 Kuki: thanksd
2016-05-25 14:54 Kuki: 00:15:429 (6,1) - swap nc
2016-05-25 14:54 Kuki: cuz sv slowdown is on 6 not 1
2016-05-25 14:54 Cryptic: okay, I can dig that
2016-05-25 14:55 Kuki: cool
2016-05-25 14:55 Kuki: 00:17:176 (6,8) - this is super ugle
2016-05-25 14:55 Kuki: ugle
2016-05-25 14:55 Kuki: consider somethin like this maybe??
2016-05-25 14:55 Kuki:
http://puu.sh/p4c2o/662945bb1d.jpg2016-05-25 14:55 Kuki: just a super super draft fix for a general idea on what would b good
2016-05-25 14:56 Cryptic: aight
2016-05-25 14:56 Kuki: 00:18:924 (4) - down 1px
2016-05-25 14:56 Cryptic: I dunno if I'm gonna change that overlap just because its barely noticeable in game
2016-05-25 14:56 Kuki: well i mean
2016-05-25 14:56 Kuki: if it's there
2016-05-25 14:56 Cryptic: OH FUCK HOW DID THA THAPPEN
2016-05-25 14:56 Cryptic: okay
2016-05-25 14:56 Kuki: and u can fix it
2016-05-25 14:56 Cryptic: I fixed that one
2016-05-25 14:56 Kuki: happens often
2016-05-25 14:56 Kuki: it's noticeable if u play halftime
2016-05-25 14:56 Kuki: which if u think about it
2016-05-25 14:56 Kuki: will be lots of ur plays
2016-05-25 14:57 Cryptic: imo the overlap should only be fixed if its noticeable in game, iirc that one isn't
2016-05-25 14:57 Cryptic: true...
2016-05-25 14:57 Kuki: 00:19:943 (8) - fix stack too
2016-05-25 14:57 Cryptic: hmm, aight, I'll put it on the consider list.
2016-05-25 14:57 Cryptic: okay, done.
2016-05-25 14:57 Kuki: u need to remember that although generally shit like that doesn't need to be tampered with
2016-05-25 14:57 Kuki: we're talking something that the general populace can't play without ht
2016-05-25 14:57 Kuki: k
2016-05-25 14:58 Kuki: 00:29:701 (1) - nc here?
2016-05-25 14:58 Kuki: as in
2016-05-25 14:58 Kuki: y is it there
2016-05-25 14:58 Cryptic: err, I guess it doesn't need to be
2016-05-25 14:58 Kuki: 00:29:555 (6) - should b here i think
2016-05-25 14:58 Kuki: cause that's where the guitar starts
2016-05-25 14:58 Cryptic: yeah, that looks better anyway
2016-05-25 14:58 Cryptic: I agree.
2016-05-25 14:59 Cryptic: cchanged
2016-05-25 15:00 Kuki: 00:49:506 (1,1) - these seem
2016-05-25 15:00 Kuki: not really needed there
2016-05-25 15:00 Kuki: 00:48:924 (3,4,5,6) - sound the same as this
2016-05-25 15:00 Kuki: 00:50:089 (1,2,1,2) - this is ok cause u can hear it getting louder and the vocals get louder too
2016-05-25 15:01 Kuki: 00:50:671 (1,2) - another uggo overlap
2016-05-25 15:01 Cryptic: hmm, are you referring to the NCs or the notes themselves?
2016-05-25 15:01 Kuki: very noticeable also due to the slow sv of the slider before
2016-05-25 15:01 Kuki: ncs
2016-05-25 15:01 Kuki: buildup is fine
2016-05-25 15:01 Kuki: makes sense
2016-05-25 15:01 Cryptic: well
2016-05-25 15:01 Cryptic: 00:49:943 (2) -
2016-05-25 15:01 Cryptic: it actually starts getting loduer there
2016-05-25 15:01 Cryptic: so
2016-05-25 15:02 Cryptic: 00:49:506 (1,2) - maybe just take the NC off of this one?
2016-05-25 15:02 Cryptic: but leave it on 00:49:798 (1,2) - ?
2016-05-25 15:02 Kuki: yeah
2016-05-25 15:02 Kuki: as long as it makes sense
2016-05-25 15:02 Cryptic: I feel like I'll be told to NC it tbh :/
2016-05-25 15:02 Cryptic: For readability
2016-05-25 15:03 Kuki: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2016-05-25 15:03 Cryptic: also, yeah, there are a few uggo overlaps but overlaps don't really bother me tbh
2016-05-25 15:03 Kuki: yyeah but they should
2016-05-25 15:03 Kuki: sometimes they are ok and look nice
2016-05-25 15:03 Kuki: this is a good example of the opposite
2016-05-25 15:03 Cryptic: pfft, yeah
2016-05-25 15:03 Cryptic: They're not pretty
2016-05-25 15:03 Kuki: 00:48:778 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - spacing is all the same here so that should be readable i think
2016-05-25 15:04 Kuki: i think it's good now
2016-05-25 15:04 Kuki: that part
2016-05-25 15:04 Cryptic: okay
2016-05-25 15:04 Kuki: 00:53:001 (1) - stakk
2016-05-25 15:04 Cryptic: woops
2016-05-25 15:04 Kuki: 00:54:167 (1) - i don't really get these sliders
2016-05-25 15:04 Kuki: like the point
2016-05-25 15:04 Kuki: cause they look nice but play pretty funky
2016-05-25 15:04 Cryptic: oh fuk, moving that ruins all my other stacks
2016-05-25 15:04 Kuki: u can fix it pretty ez
2016-05-25 15:04 Kuki: since u dont care about perfect spacing
2016-05-25 15:05 Kuki: since u don't have spacing aids like me
2016-05-25 15:05 Cryptic: I mean
2016-05-25 15:05 Kuki: it's just the sliderend lol
2016-05-25 15:05 Cryptic: oh, btw, in reponse to the sliders
2016-05-25 15:05 Cryptic: they're just mean to change direction of jumps
2016-05-25 15:05 Cryptic: so all sliders force a flow change
2016-05-25 15:06 Kuki: idk if i feel u on that but w/e
2016-05-25 15:06 Cryptic: My least favorite thing in osu maps is when the mapper has the same counter clockwise or clockwise jump motion for like half a kiai
2016-05-25 15:06 Kuki: 01:20:889 (4) - guitar starts here but nc is after
2016-05-25 15:06 Cryptic: so I try to switch it up every kiai
2016-05-25 15:06 Kuki: i think it's ok cause u can't fucking avoid it
2016-05-25 15:06 Kuki: without it making less sense
2016-05-25 15:07 Cryptic: 01:20:671 (1,2,3,4) - but this is following drum rolls as well
2016-05-25 15:07 Kuki: yeah what i mean tho is u don't really need sliders to do that
2016-05-25 15:07 Kuki: 01:20:963 (1) - but the drum goes to here too haha
2016-05-25 15:07 Kuki: that's the problem
2016-05-25 15:07 Kuki: w/e
2016-05-25 15:07 Kuki: it's fine as is
2016-05-25 15:07 Cryptic: okay
2016-05-25 15:07 Kuki: 01:27:662 (1,1) - stack i reckon
2016-05-25 15:08 Kuki: overlap is cool and all but i think the higher spacing is cooler
2016-05-25 15:08 Kuki: i also feel like the hitsounds are often too loud in that you can't hear the stream sounds at all
2016-05-25 15:08 Kuki: only hs
2016-05-25 15:08 Cryptic: :c thats like my favorite thing ont he entire map though
2016-05-25 15:08 Cryptic: yeah, it hasn't been HS yet
2016-05-25 15:08 Cryptic: so don't worry about that
2016-05-25 15:09 Kuki: it's weird that out of everything that's ur favorite but w/e
2016-05-25 15:09 Kuki: it looks good
2016-05-25 15:09 Kuki: just i think since it's the end
2016-05-25 15:09 Kuki: could be a bit higher
2016-05-25 15:09 Kuki: keep it if u like don't mind me