And yes, she usually is. She usually ends up getting policy lynched.B1rd wrote:
So wait, is Jess usually inactive? Because otherwise I'd be wary of a jester.
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beeboy123 has been prodded!
He was supposed to be prodded 24 hours ago, but since i forgot as compensation i'll add that much time to deadline.
He was supposed to be prodded 24 hours ago, but since i forgot as compensation i'll add that much time to deadline.
Now we have time to move the lynch to NH instead of doing a policy lynch.
The fact that we got 2 counter wagons to keep NH alive (B1rd's racism wagon, Jess's policy wagon) I feel very confident getting this one dead instead.
I stayed up for this, what an anticlimax 
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Vote Count 1.16
-[Jess]- (5) - - Magic Bomb -, pieguyn, NoHitter, Navizel, Birdy [L-2]
NoHitter (3) - notscience, beeboy123, B1rd
B1rd (1) - metal sonic1
notscience (1) - GuyInFreezer
Not Voting (2) - -[Jess]-, Frostings
With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.
-[Jess]- (5) - - Magic Bomb -, pieguyn, NoHitter, Navizel, Birdy [L-2]
NoHitter (3) - notscience, beeboy123, B1rd
B1rd (1) - metal sonic1
notscience (1) - GuyInFreezer
Not Voting (2) - -[Jess]-, Frostings
With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Thanks, bee.
Unvote for now.
Unvote for now.
Where the fuck is Giffy when I need a breath of fresh air
Pie tell me why I should vote Jess over No Hitter
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Has anyone asked MB what magically firmed up his townread from- "Eh Id maybe throw him into my pool of three as a third" to "One of my strongest townreads we must not lynch him ever."
Birdy- What were you waiting for to vote NH?
Pie- Why the fuck are you voting for a PL and you should really get some reads out because if i'm scum I'm just going to kill you tonight and if you think there's a miniscule chance I'm scum you'll be silenced and I get to coast to endgame! :3
Jess feels more snarky than she did in the threehouse game as scum. Plus I don't like the counterwagon. I disagree with Frostings that the entire wagon feels like it's from town, I don't like beeboy, but NH's wagon is miles better.
Someone have an explanation for wh not to lynch NH that does not include the term doctor anywhere in the description?
Birdy- What were you waiting for to vote NH?
Pie- Why the fuck are you voting for a PL and you should really get some reads out because if i'm scum I'm just going to kill you tonight and if you think there's a miniscule chance I'm scum you'll be silenced and I get to coast to endgame! :3
Jess feels more snarky than she did in the threehouse game as scum. Plus I don't like the counterwagon. I disagree with Frostings that the entire wagon feels like it's from town, I don't like beeboy, but NH's wagon is miles better.
Someone have an explanation for wh not to lynch NH that does not include the term doctor anywhere in the description?
I'd normally be fine with lynching NH right now in this situation, but the problem with me is Jess...
She usually takes the game seriously whenever she actually posts regardless of her alignment, and the only times she scumclaims is when she's really scum
If NH is telling the truth about being Doc, scum will take care of it. It's of very little benefit to keep a claimed Doc alive
If NH sticks around until Day3, then we'll lynch him, and it shouldn't slow the game down (?)
She usually takes the game seriously whenever she actually posts regardless of her alignment, and the only times she scumclaims is when she's really scum
If NH is telling the truth about being Doc, scum will take care of it. It's of very little benefit to keep a claimed Doc alive
If NH sticks around until Day3, then we'll lynch him, and it shouldn't slow the game down (?)
I'd normally be fine with lynching NH right now in this situation, but the problem with me is Jess...
She usually takes the game seriously whenever she actually posts regardless of her alignment, and the only times she scumclaims is when she's really scum
If NH is telling the truth about being Doc, scum will take care of it. It's of very little benefit to keep a claimed Doc alive
If NH sticks around until Day3, then we'll lynch him, and it shouldn't slow the game down (?)
She usually takes the game seriously whenever she actually posts regardless of her alignment, and the only times she scumclaims is when she's really scum
If NH is telling the truth about being Doc, scum will take care of it. It's of very little benefit to keep a claimed Doc alive
If NH sticks around until Day3, then we'll lynch him, and it shouldn't slow the game down (?)
It's not that, I was just too busy (and lazy) to question MB's weird excuses and whatever. I was more confident with that vote for a while. Then I actually looked into NH's ISO.notscience wrote:
Birdy- What were you waiting for to vote NH?
MBomb
Ok, let's go over why Jess is a good lynch.
And fourthly, she has made literally 8 posts since the game started, and only two of which actually contained anything about the game at all (Both of which posts I've mentioned here).
Can we lynch now?
Firstly, she never answered my question, secondly, she never explained what she meant by this question when I asked a few posts later what she meant by it.-[Jess]- wrote:
Why you always play with meta?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
@mod: Please prod Jess.
Jess, when you see this, thoughts so far?
Secondly, no explanation for either (And also sheeping popular opinions, rather than giving any reasoning whatsoever).-[Jess]- wrote:
i am invisible and you cant see me :^)
and I don't know i should vote NH or B1rd,they seem scummy.
Thirdly, as previously stated, she never says stuff like this as town (this is when I do start acknowledging meta, because she does this as scum a lot, it's kinda her way of AtE as far as I can tell, when she is scum).-[Jess]- wrote:
hey we should lynch jess because she is not-helping and inactive :^)
And fourthly, she has made literally 8 posts since the game started, and only two of which actually contained anything about the game at all (Both of which posts I've mentioned here).
Can we lynch now?
MBomb
I'd rather lynch a useless good for nothing piece of shit that is Jess (wow redundancy) than someone who is a claimed doctor to be honest. Like Frostings said, scum will probably just kill the doc. Unless someone else can protect others but that would be very hard for scum to get a kill and I don't think Sakura would do that.
the problem is if the doc doesn't die because ?WIFOM?
Scum can claim doc easily so we shouldn't rely on that. If we think no hitter is scum, lynch him. Unfortunately I just want a dead bird
Scum can claim doc easily so we shouldn't rely on that. If we think no hitter is scum, lynch him. Unfortunately I just want a dead bird
we have a winner.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Secondly, no explanation for either (And also sheeping popular opinions, rather than giving any reasoning whatsoever).
i want a claim from Jess before i consider moving my vote elsewhere
what do you make of MB's point about her doing nothing but sheeping popular opinions all game, which FTR is exactly how i caught her in Treehouse?notscience wrote:
Pie- Why the fuck are you voting for a PL and you should really get some reads out because if i'm scum I'm just going to kill you tonight and if you think there's a miniscule chance I'm scum you'll be silenced and I get to coast to endgame! :3
also i still have no idea in in hell how you town read me, given i'm playing way off anything i've done before as either alignment and have hardly posted any content at all within this game for you to judge me off of. what have i done this game that i wouldn't do as scum?
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Vote Count 1.17
-[Jess]- (4) - - Magic Bomb -, pieguyn, NoHitter, Navizel [L-3]
NoHitter (3) - notscience, beeboy123, B1rd
B1rd (1) - metal sonic1
notscience (1) - GuyInFreezer
Not Voting (3) - -[Jess]-, Frostings, Birdy
With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.
-[Jess]- (4) - - Magic Bomb -, pieguyn, NoHitter, Navizel [L-3]
NoHitter (3) - notscience, beeboy123, B1rd
B1rd (1) - metal sonic1
notscience (1) - GuyInFreezer
Not Voting (3) - -[Jess]-, Frostings, Birdy
With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline in 20 hours
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I don't like how MB is strongly pushing Jess
The majority of votes are there only for the sake of PL, and that should be the only reason required for the lynch
The fact he's now trying to defend his stance on Jess wagon seems highly unnecessary as town
There shouldn't be a need to overwhelmingly defend another person on D1
I don't like how MB is strongly pushing Jess
The majority of votes are there only for the sake of PL, and that should be the only reason required for the lynch
The fact he's now trying to defend his stance on Jess wagon seems highly unnecessary as town
There shouldn't be a need to overwhelmingly defend another person on D1
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I don't like how MB is strongly pushing Jess
The majority of votes are there only for the sake of PL, and that should be the only reason required for the lynch
The fact he's now trying to defend his stance on Jess wagon seems highly unnecessary as town
There shouldn't be a need to overwhelmingly defend another person on D1
I don't like how MB is strongly pushing Jess
The majority of votes are there only for the sake of PL, and that should be the only reason required for the lynch
The fact he's now trying to defend his stance on Jess wagon seems highly unnecessary as town
There shouldn't be a need to overwhelmingly defend another person on D1
you're joking, rightFrostings wrote:
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I don't like how MB is strongly pushing Jess
The majority of votes are there only for the sake of PL, and that should be the only reason required for the lynch
The fact he's now trying to defend his stance on Jess wagon seems highly unnecessary as town
There shouldn't be a need to overwhelmingly defend another person on D1
Either we lynch NH now, or we lynch NH latermetal sonic1 wrote:
the problem is if the doc doesn't die because ?WIFOM?
Scum can claim doc easily so we shouldn't rely on that. If we think no hitter is scum, lynch him. Unfortunately I just want a dead bird
if scum choose to leave claimed Doc alone because ?WIFOM?, then town mostly benefits, because if Doc is able to stop at least 1 NK, that's an extra night for town PRs
There's no real motive for extreme buddying when NH hasn't even been playing THAT town of a game
The only thing I can think of is Daychat/Mason, and I doubt that's in the game
holy shit I thought Navi was the IC and not you. <_>
"he has reasons for legitimately scum reading Jess and this isn't necessary as town" is really misguided reasoning. someone being a useless lurkfuck as both alignments doesn't mean there's no way to read them based on what they're posting when they _are_ around. in this case, I think MB's push is well reasoned. outside of the "sheeping popular pushes " point, I don't mind the meta observation that Jess only makes those kinds of sniping comments as scum. I don't really have experience to verify if it's correct (and I'm too lazy to meta lel), but I think the consideration is coming from a town POV.
"not needing to defend someone on D1" is also really misguided reasoning. if you have a strong town read on D1, as he stated he did with NH, then hell yeah, you should derail it. there's nothing incongruous or unnecessary there, and I'd like to know why you disagree.
"he has reasons for legitimately scum reading Jess and this isn't necessary as town" is really misguided reasoning. someone being a useless lurkfuck as both alignments doesn't mean there's no way to read them based on what they're posting when they _are_ around. in this case, I think MB's push is well reasoned. outside of the "sheeping popular pushes " point, I don't mind the meta observation that Jess only makes those kinds of sniping comments as scum. I don't really have experience to verify if it's correct (and I'm too lazy to meta lel), but I think the consideration is coming from a town POV.
"not needing to defend someone on D1" is also really misguided reasoning. if you have a strong town read on D1, as he stated he did with NH, then hell yeah, you should derail it. there's nothing incongruous or unnecessary there, and I'd like to know why you disagree.
didn't see this before posting the previous post. why do you think your assessment indicates no one else can have a strong town read on him? do you disagree with his point about the B1rd interaction?Frostings wrote:
There's no real motive for extreme buddying when NH hasn't even been playing THAT town of a game
I worry what you're doing here is projecting your opinion of NH's play, and assuming other people necessarily should react the same way to it you are. which is fine if you're relying entirely on objective reasoning, but it's not a good idea in terms of vague judgement calls (MB saying it looks town vs. you saying it doesn't) unless you can break it down and get a better idea of where the disagreement is. if you or anyone gave a more in-depth explanation on this, link plz (I don't remember seeing one).
I'm like 95% sure B1rd is town, and if he's scum, he's playing Irre-level scum, and I doubt anyone else can pull that off
I was kind of suspicious of NH before the whole B1-NH exchange, so when it happened, it just looked like scum pushing a weak post based on semantics. When it failed, he immediately jumped on Jess wagon instead.. The whole "anyone else but me" mindset seems like a pretty lame excuse
I also didn't like NH's panic claim, it was highly unnecessary. If he's Doc, all it does is give scum a free PR to NK. If he's town and fakeclaiming, that's extremely bad as it risks a CC from a real Doc and then we lose two towns from the inevitable lynch and NK.
If he's scum and fakeclaiming, he can:
1. bait the real Doc to CC and then scum finds their NK target
2. potentially stop his lynch and create WIFOM as he continues to survive despite claiming such a strong role
I was kind of suspicious of NH before the whole B1-NH exchange, so when it happened, it just looked like scum pushing a weak post based on semantics. When it failed, he immediately jumped on Jess wagon instead.. The whole "anyone else but me" mindset seems like a pretty lame excuse
I also didn't like NH's panic claim, it was highly unnecessary. If he's Doc, all it does is give scum a free PR to NK. If he's town and fakeclaiming, that's extremely bad as it risks a CC from a real Doc and then we lose two towns from the inevitable lynch and NK.
If he's scum and fakeclaiming, he can:
1. bait the real Doc to CC and then scum finds their NK target
2. potentially stop his lynch and create WIFOM as he continues to survive despite claiming such a strong role
Now that he's claimed though, it does seem a bit unnecessary to lynch him, as he'll be taken care of eventually...
But it doesn't help me that everyone I'm townreading is on the NH train, and everyone else null or nullscum is on Jess
But it doesn't help me that everyone I'm townreading is on the NH train, and everyone else null or nullscum is on Jess
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-[Jess]- is being replaced
Deadline is frozen until a replacement is found.
Deadline is frozen until a replacement is found.
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