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winber1 wrote:I did not reply because I don't really have much else to say to you. You talk about trying to get discussion and not criticism, but to be fair, you know almost no one will appreciate the map and that everyone will probably think you don't know what you're doing, yet you expect us not to criticize. If not outright criticizing, it will be a discussion on criticisms.
jawns wrote:Honestly, I was waiting and hoping winber would respond to my points in my last reply.
The reason I have not much else to say is because art is subjective, and you can go do whatever the hell you want that makes you happy. If you ever want to somehow join the community of mapping, you really need to start hammering down specifics and details. If not, as Okoratu said, do as you please. You say you can explain properly why each note is there, and perhaps maybe with enough time you can, but at the same time with enough time I can easily explain why that doesn't make sense.
First of all, I'm not at all upset about you not replying in the first place, I can see why my quote might have looked a bit passive/aggressive, that was in no way intentional.
I kinda disagree about the "discussion/criticism" thing, since I feel like the discussion is already about mapping mentality in general, and not focused on my map, or my mapping style in particular. I also think I've changed my opinion a bit already, which is a successful discussion in my opinion.
I didn't want to compare my map to Xexxar's map, I just used it as an example. I think they are fundamentally different, as you said, I don't really focus on aesthetic at all, however that might change in the future. I'm definitely not as reluctant to change as before.
I was more talking about bias, that some think there are things you should always (or almost always) do, and might automatically think less of a map, if it doesn't do those things.
neonat wrote:Depends on what those "dos" are I guess, also those are mainly just to get things ranked also lol. You don't need to care about anything if it's just made without any of such intentions.
jawns wrote:But I guess my main argument really boils down to this: There are a lot of unwritten rules, but there seems to be more "dos" than "don'ts" (apart from the example above). My question is, though, is a map that doesn't do the "dos" always bad?That doesn't matter one bit
N0thingSpecial wrote:2) have fuk ton of kudosu
However, I definitely don't think people are nearly as biased, as I thought before