1. Easy (1.46 stars, 124 notes)
2. Hard (3.1 stars, 390 notes)
3. Normal (2.28 stars, 275 notes)
4. peach's insane (4.5 stars, 312 notes)

TwistedPeach wrote:

First impressions:

Easy:
relatively well mapped, two awkward timing section (rhythm) at about 1/3 and 3/4, nothing big, change is optional. what? i dont understand Q-Q
Hard:
Still well mapped, one angled slider in beginning is weird, as all the others are bent. which slider? maybe i can change that
When the sliders speed up later in the song, it is sudden and sometimes hard to follow
Overall: I'd say it's a pretty good map Aw thank you

nignog9000 wrote:

Hey, modding the hard diff


00:32:400 (5) - Move this a little closer to the green combo start
00:47:200 (5) - Wow that is disorienting, let me touch on that at the bottom.
01:27:200 (1) -Same thing
02:27:800 (3) - This with the green combo start immediately after is a little much for a 3 star map, try to either get rid of the 2nd and 3rd orange slider, actually just get rid of it and replace it with a normal hit circle or something, too quick.
02:36:200 (1) - Same problem here

Thats it for the notes, but i really think you should make the hit circles smaller, they're too big for sliders this quick. Other than that nice map.

SPOILER

Or just make the sliders slower, but that would be messy

nignog9000 wrote:

Hahahaha, i completely forgot to touch on why 00:47:200 this section was disorienting ha, whoops.
But in all seriousness, the problem there is you have the hit sounds clashing with the song, like when your halfway through one of those sliders one of the hitsounds go off, its really disorienting. Like 00:48:800 (1) - here, you have the hitsound of you hitting the circle, and one in the middle, i have no idea if thats just how the song goes or if its on purpose, buts it's really confusing, i would recommend getting rid of the halfway through the slider sounds. Thats about it.

nignog9000 wrote:

It's a little better, just keep trying, its still a little weird sometimes. you might want to revise that whole section, or get some more people to mod it, it could just be me.

Aezis wrote:

Hard:

00:00:800 (1,1) - This overlap is a little ugly, consider moving one of the sliders fixed
00:29:000 (3) - I would angle this clockwise a little bit so it flows to the next note fixed
00:31:200 (1,2,3,4) - Use the shape tool so this square looks prettier fixed
01:34:000 (2) - Make this a back and forth slider, that red tick should have a hit fixed?
02:32:000 (4) - This feels out of place since it's distant to the rest of the circles fixed

Lami wrote:

• [General]

1. seem too noisy silderslide sound. i recommend to use http://puu.sh/n6Dsb.wav
   just insert this file in your song folder. Done
   
2. Diff gap isn't solid. cuz easy - hard gap is really big.
   This mapset need normal diff. I tried to do one but i finished doing the hard map
   
   [Hard]
   
3. 00:20:000 (1,2,3) - 3/4 rhythm isn't normally for hard diff player.
   1,2 is 3/4 rhythm gap. but 2,3 is 1/2 gap.
   this difference give confusing to un-expert player, even if you keep DS.
   my suggestion : http://puu.sh/n6DTD.jpg Done
   
4. 00:47:200 (1,2,3) - this placement seem like random.
   if you set center 00:48:600 (3) - with 1,2 , it can more good for visual Done
   
5. 01:06:000 (1,2) - why you suddenly small DS here?
   didn't you want to keep consistent DS?? :3 idk lol
   
6. 01:39:200 (1) - remove NC which break regular NC cycle. Done
   
7. 02:44:900 (1) - make slience in end. cuz 02:47:200 - have no sounds. Done
   
   overall, it's insane diff i think. because DS is really huge in every kiai time. Mmm... Maybe but it has 3 stars so i keep it hard, at least for now
   if you see hard diff in other ranked map, it can helpful i think. I do that but i'm too stupid to learn about those maps
   rhythm choice is good. but some flow is improvable and you can polish more good slider shape.
   
   Good luck~

Hard

Chibi Maruko wrote:

Hi. From my queue

Hard

1. 00:23:500 (2) - x:256 y:200 is better changed DS and almost everything
2. 00:24:800 (1) - Maybe near sliderendcircle, dat overlap doesn't look nice. Blanket or sliderwave or something changed DS and almost everything
3. 00:27:200 (2) - x:328 y:224 is better coz look unrankable changed DS and almost everything
4. 00:31:200 (4,5,6,7) - Please use DS like 1.4x. not 1.6x. not suitable for hard Changed DS to 1.3x
5. 00:45:200 (5) - Sliderwave can be improved. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4530407 this is nice thanks for the example, fixed
6. 00:52:000 (3) - NC here done
7. 01:11:200 (1) - This slider too awkward and random I guess. Fix this fixed
8. 01:28:800 (5) - NC here done
9. 01:42:800 (4) - Add clap at slidertick done
10. 02:12:200 (2,3) - Maybe this slider kinda woobs. Please fix this to normally blanket or something fixed
11. 02:24:400 (1,2,3) - Please reduce jumps these. these not suitable for hard changed DS and i like these jumps :c
12. 02:34:000 (1) - Blanket this coz slider awkward fixed but maybe is awkward again

Ok, gl with ur map \:D/
sorry /me run away

novotrixes wrote:

TwistedPeach wrote:

First impressions:

Easy:
relatively well mapped, two awkward timing section (rhythm) at about 1/3 and 3/4, nothing big, change is optional. what? i dont understand Q-Q worst bit (still not that bad XD) is at 1:09 to 1:11 and slider at 1:34 is awkward, but other than that, mostly good, nothing big
Hard:
Still well mapped, one angled slider in beginning is weird, as all the others are bent. which slider? maybe i can change that The slider @ 7.8 seconds, second in it's combo. sry for not making that clear XD
When the sliders speed up later in the song, it is sudden and sometimes hard to follow
Overall: I'd say it's a pretty good map Aw thank you

TwistedPeach wrote:

"I think this need an insane/extra diff (working on the normal diff)"
I can try this if you want

1. 00:02:400 (2) - move this to [155,248] to make triangle pattern with 00:01:400 (2,1,2) - it's ok to break DS in hard diff, and it will really help to improve aesthetics
2. So one big picture thing is that your kiai/high intensity sections has the same note density as your calm parts. Yeah, you increase SV, but it still plays roughly the same. There's so many other instruments you can map to when the main guitar is in between notes, so try to map more stuff. for example, 00:20:000 (1,2,3) - could be made into something like this http://puu.sh/njkqf/e54273b65e.jpg
3. Another general thing is that I think flow can be improved in a few spots. Some of your sliderbodies don't flow from the previous object, and since it's hard to describe what I mean in words, I'll just leave you with a picture example 00:20:000 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/njlR2/1321e03c64.jpg
4. 00:40:800 - downbeats (big white tick marks) are typically strong beats, so they deserve a clickable object. make 00:40:400 (3) - into 1/2 slider + note. same thing at 01:06:000 (1) - 01:07:600 (1) - 01:23:600 (5) - etc...
5. 00:45:900 (1,2,3) - use 1.2x DS to avoid overlaps like you do later on
6. 00:51:300 - you've been mapping these blue ticks for awhile, so it feels awkward to suddenly stop, I think making 00:51:200 (1) - a triplet would be better.
7. 00:55:000 - add note. same thing at 01:04:100 -
8. 00:55:200 (1,2) - please don't suddenly switch what instrument you're mapping to without a strong reason. add a note at 00:55:500 - to supplement piano. My general advice would be if you're gonna switch to a different instrument, try to add enough notes so it follows both instruments at the same time. Since this is a hard diff, this can be done pretty easily by adding in triplets whenever you need to catch a blue tick from the guitar/piano.
9. 00:55:800 - lol you even added a custom slidertick to map this sound. it's a hard diff. just make 00:55:600 (2) - into a 1/2 slider
10. 01:10:400 (4,5,1) - I prefer bigger spacing here, since music intensity is strong

1. 00:03:600 (2,1) - In the future, change your DS so avoid these barely overlapping, but still overlapping overlaps. they just look bad. http://puu.sh/njlWP/edc9197742.jpg either overlap it more, or not at all (for normal I would recommend overlapping more)
2. All my general comments in hard diff apply here as well.
3. I would also tone down SV changes 1->1.5 SV is a big jump for beginner players
4. 00:32:400 (4,1) - DS pls
5. 00:55:200 (1) - you can do something more creative than a 2/1 repeat slider. The drastic change in rhythm isn't supported by the song, so don't just switch to the guitar just because there's a guitar sound every 2 beats instead of every 4 beats

MokouSmoke wrote:

from my queue~
maybe I should check out if undertale is worth all the hype
[Hard]

1. 00:02:400 (2) - move this to [155,248] to make triangle pattern with 00:01:400 (2,1,2) - it's ok to break DS in hard diff, and it will really help to improve aesthetics fixed?
2. So one big picture thing is that your kiai/high intensity sections has the same note density as your calm parts. Yeah, you increase SV, but it still plays roughly the same. There's so many other instruments you can map to when the main guitar is in between notes, so try to map more stuff. for example, 00:20:000 (1,2,3) - could be made into something like this http://puu.sh/njkqf/e54273b65e.jpg i dunno how to do hard diffs but i tried, i did just half of first kiai to try
3. Another general thing is that I think flow can be improved in a few spots. Some of your sliderbodies don't flow from the previous object, and since it's hard to describe what I mean in words, I'll just leave you with a picture example 00:20:000 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/njlR2/1321e03c64.jpg that help me a lot, thanks! I'll change my beatmaps and add flow
4. 00:40:800 - downbeats (big white tick marks) are typically strong beats, so they deserve a clickable object. make 00:40:400 (3) - into 1/2 slider + note. same thing at 01:06:000 (1) - 01:07:600 (1) - 01:23:600 (5) - etc... fixed
5. 00:45:900 (1,2,3) - use 1.2x DS to avoid overlaps like you do later on fixed
6. 00:51:300 - you've been mapping these blue ticks for awhile, so it feels awkward to suddenly stop, I think making 00:51:200 (1) - a triplet would be better. fixed
7. 00:55:000 - add note. same thing at 01:04:100 - I think is fine :c
8. 00:55:200 (1,2) - please don't suddenly switch what instrument you're mapping to without a strong reason. add a note at 00:55:500 - to supplement piano. My general advice would be if you're gonna switch to a different instrument, try to add enough notes so it follows both instruments at the same time. Since this is a hard diff, this can be done pretty easily by adding in triplets whenever you need to catch a blue tick from the guitar/piano. i'm not good at music, sorry fixed?
9. 00:55:800 - lol you even added a custom slidertick to map this sound. it's a hard diff. just make 00:55:600 (2) - into a 1/2 slider
10. 01:10:400 (4,5,1) - I prefer bigger spacing here, since music intensity is strong fixed

[Normal]

1. 00:03:600 (2,1) - In the future, change your DS so avoid these barely overlapping, but still overlapping overlaps. they just look bad. http://puu.sh/njlWP/edc9197742.jpg either overlap it more, or not at all (for normal I would recommend overlapping more)
2. All my general comments in hard diff apply here as well. I'm too stupid to use them here
3. I would also tone down SV changes 1->1.5 SV is a big jump for beginner players is the same in easy diff and i dont want to change sv and all the sliders
4. 00:32:400 (4,1) - DS pls lol sorry, fixed
5. 00:55:200 (1) - you can do something more creative than a 2/1 repeat slider. The drastic change in rhythm isn't supported by the song, so don't just switch to the guitar just because there's a guitar sound every 2 beats instead of every 4 beats fixed?

I left my comments pretty general because I feel they are applicable throughout the entire map, so if you have any questions, let me know. Good luck! so can u tell me if i fixed everything?

novotrixes wrote:

TwistedPeach wrote:

gd

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448,160,44600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
96,280,44900,1,12,3:3:0:0:
336,80,45200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
192,232,45600,5,12,3:3:0:0:
240,112,45900,1,12,3:3:0:0:
352,160,46200,2,12,L|344:232,1,65,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
384,144,48400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
128,208,48600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
320,264,48800,2,12,B|352:248|352:216|328:192|328:168|352:144|352:112|320:80|280:80|232:128,3,260,12|12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
240,224,51400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
128,120,51600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
120,224,51800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
344,256,52000,6,12,B|344:200|376:168|376:112|304:112|264:72|232:104|176:104|176:176|224:224|224:272|192:304|112:304|40:232,2,520,12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
368,120,58400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
120,104,58700,1,12,3:3:0:0:
416,272,59000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
232,80,59200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
368,80,61200,5,12,3:3:0:0:
72,296,61400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
416,304,61600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
360,96,64000,5,12,3:3:0:0:
336,256,64200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
296,64,64400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
272,240,64600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
160,88,64800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
360,120,67600,2,12,B|304:120|304:120|264:160,1,97.5,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
232,152,68000,2,12,B|269:202|269:202|469:202,4,260,12|12|12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
112,256,71500,1,12,3:3:0:0:
280,128,71800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
352,288,72100,1,12,3:3:0:0:
160,176,72400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
256,56,72600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
336,136,72800,6,12,B|272:200|272:200|216:200,2,146.250005578995,12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
160,112,73700,1,12,3:3:0:0:
392,288,74000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
432,112,74200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
192,240,74400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
120,96,74700,1,12,3:3:0:0:
80,272,75000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
320,144,75300,1,12,3:3:0:0:
368,144,75600,2,12,P|328:200|296:208,1,97.50000371933,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
128,120,76000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
432,312,76300,1,12,3:3:0:0:
376,96,76600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
296,288,76900,1,12,3:3:0:0:
112,144,77200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
240,200,77600,5,12,3:3:0:0:
240,248,77900,2,12,B|184:232|128:208|104:184,2,146.250005578995,12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
192,96,78800,2,12,P|240:72|264:104,1,97.50000371933,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
176,240,79200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
424,136,79500,1,12,3:3:0:0:
96,80,79800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
312,256,80100,1,12,3:3:0:0:
288,96,80400,2,12,P|248:128|208:104,2,97.50000371933,12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
352,96,81100,6,12,B|336:168|288:192|224:192,1,146.250005578995,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
88,88,81700,1,12,3:3:0:0:
360,120,82000,2,12,P|400:160|392:208,2,97.50000371933,12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
128,144,82700,1,12,3:3:0:0:
368,264,83000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
384,64,83300,1,12,3:3:0:0:
128,144,83600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
136,272,84000,5,12,3:3:0:0:
256,80,84300,1,12,3:3:0:0:
376,272,84600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
136,272,84800,5,12,3:3:0:0:
328,104,86800,5,12,3:3:0:0:
360,192,87000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
280,256,87200,2,12,B|232:256|232:256|208:232|208:232|208:192|208:192|232:168|232:168|280:168,2,195,12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
280,128,88800,2,12,B|232:128|232:128|208:152|208:152|208:192|208:192|232:216|232:216|280:216,2,195,12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
416,240,96800,5,12,3:3:0:0:
240,88,97100,1,12,3:3:0:0:
152,232,97400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
160,240,97600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
344,104,99600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
104,344,99800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
320,272,100000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
288,160,102400,5,12,3:3:0:0:
224,224,102600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
256,192,102800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
192,256,103000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
320,128,103200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
240,184,109600,5,12,3:3:0:0:
368,128,109800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
352,264,110000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
240,184,110200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
216,48,110400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
112,192,110600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
240,184,110800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
96,96,111200,6,12,P|107:73|129:73,1,35.7500010910034,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
320,136,111600,6,12,P|308:158|286:158,1,35.7500010910034,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
160,136,112000,6,12,P|100:190|78:190,1,107.25000327301,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
232,136,113200,6,12,P|221:215|204:230,1,107.25000327301,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
320,136,114400,5,12,3:3:0:0:
128,216,114600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
400,304,114800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
176,112,115000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
384,184,115200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
200,272,115400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
240,136,115600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
128,168,116000,6,12,P|139:145|161:145,1,35.7500010910034,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
360,224,116400,6,12,P|371:201|393:201,1,35.7500010910034,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
160,224,116800,5,12,3:3:0:0:
272,112,117200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
344,264,117600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
192,80,117800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
208,88,117900,1,12,3:3:0:0:
216,104,118000,2,12,B|240:144|232:168|216:184,1,71.5000021820069,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
256,80,119200,5,12,3:3:0:0:
256,304,119400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
321,101,119600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
190,282,119800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
256,80,120000,5,12,3:3:0:0:
256,304,120200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
321,101,120400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
190,282,120600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
312,128,128800,5,12,3:3:0:0:
120,328,129000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
312,128,129200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
120,328,129400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
312,128,129600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
120,328,129800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
408,256,130000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
200,136,130400,5,12,3:3:0:0:
312,136,130600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
312,248,130800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
200,248,131000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
152,88,131200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
360,88,131800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
152,296,132400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
360,296,133000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
312,128,133600,5,12,3:3:0:0:
120,328,133800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
312,128,134000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
120,328,134200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
312,128,134400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
120,328,134600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
408,256,134800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
168,144,135200,5,12,3:3:0:0:
392,256,135400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
168,144,135600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
392,256,135800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
192,248,136000,2,12,B|192:192|232:192|232:152|232:104|232:256,1,195.00000743866,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
352,152,136800,5,12,3:3:0:0:
360,160,137000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
368,248,137100,1,12,3:3:0:0:
400,200,137200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
200,128,138400,5,12,3:3:0:0:
392,328,138600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
200,128,138800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
392,328,139000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
200,128,139200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
392,328,139400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
104,256,139600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
360,104,148000,5,12,3:3:0:0:
56,296,148200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
360,288,148400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
160,128,148600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
376,160,148800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
224,320,149000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
272,80,149200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
352,88,149600,2,12,L|272:168,1,97.50000371933,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
80,224,150000,2,12,L|160:144,1,97.50000371933,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
280,200,150400,6,12,B|328:200|328:160|368:160|368:128|400:96|400:56|472:128|472:208,4,292.50001115799,12|12|12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
192,88,153000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
144,320,153200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
336,184,153400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
184,80,153600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
160,328,153800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
344,176,154000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
344,128,154400,5,12,3:3:0:0:
176,208,154600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
224,248,154800,2,12,L|304:192,1,97.50000371933,12|12,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
368,144,155200,2,12,B|368:88|288:88|240:136|200:136,2,195.00000743866,12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
288,232,156200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
344,248,156300,1,12,3:3:0:0:
392,240,156400,2,12,B|432:200|432:160|384:160|352:128|280:128,3,195.00000743866,12|12|12|12,3:3|3:3|3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
168,240,157800,5,12,3:3:0:0:
248,96,158000,1,12,3:3:0:0:
344,256,158200,1,12,3:3:0:0:
104,120,158400,1,12,3:3:0:0:
328,144,158600,1,12,3:3:0:0:
208,304,158800,1,12,3:3:0:0:
256,192,162400,12,12,163200,3:3:0:0:
408,96,163600,5,12,3:3:0:0:
128,264,164000,5,12,3:3:0:0:
440,120,164400,5,12,3:3:0:0:
256,192,164800,12,12,167200,3:3:0:0:

Dang that's long...

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