-Sh1n1- wrote:

Map suggested by Spectator on our queue: "[CTB] Recommend us a beatmap to mod!"

General

1. 00:34:703 - put kiai on red line too, it's currently unrankable. done

Cup

1. 00:19:403 (5,1) - is really good that you are working with distances now, the quality is very high, but you should work with 2 kind of distances, 1.00x works fine as a normal transition but don't you think that strong sounds / cymbals / high vocal pitches, deserve more enphasis? considering your bpm, I won't suggest you to increase the distance a lot, just something to mark the difference with normal transitions, e.g. what do you think about 1.30x or 1.40x between 00:19:403 (5,1) -? 00:19:703 - is very important cause is the beginning of a new section and should be enphasized with more distance. something as you did on 00:34:403 (5,1) - indeed, fixed for every new section but I will keep equal spacing for some cymbals for the design (they are actually less intense than a new section so it's fine)
2. 00:44:303 - 01:21:503 - these cymbals are totally different from the rest on the map and should be enphasized with a distance around 1.30x or 1.40x sure
3. 01:19:703 (1,2) - reduce to 0.90x (if you could reduce a bit more, it will be better), the sound of 01:19:103 - is stronger than 01:20:303 -, why they have the same distance? also the current movement is a bit unconfortable cause 01:20:303 (2) - is too close to the limit. alright, fixed
4. Can you give me an explanation of why CS is 2.6? just minor but change to 2.5 please, it will be more confortable for beginners and also will reduce 0.01 stars, and you will need it to keep the easy icon if you apply my previous suggestions. actually it was for the spread but I think that it's fine if it's by 0.1, I also want to keep the easy icon so it's a good idea thanks

Salad

1. 00:08:003 (4,1) - vs 00:08:753 (2,1) - both have the same sound on 00:08:303 - and 00:09:053 - respectively, my suggestion is reduce the distance between 00:08:753 (2,1) - to keep consistency with 00:08:003 (4,1) - not really we can clearly hear that 00:09:053 - is stronger + it's a new section. I will keep more spacing for it.
2. 00:33:653 (2,3) - keep using 1.30x, 00:34:253 - doesn't deserve a jump.alright
3. 00:34:703 - the whole first kiai is really confusing cause you are skipping the cymbals, but after taking a look to 00:39:503 -, you can't skip such sound cause this is the beginning of the second half of the kiai and need enphasis as 00:34:403 (4,1) -, also why 00:39:803 - is a jump now while 00:35:003 - was a slider-end? please try to be constant on this kiai 2 dash in a row for a Salad at 200BPM is way too intense and hard for beginners, I will put only one at the beginning of the kiai for the consistency and the new section but no more because they are really hard.
4. 01:29:303 (3,4) - this part doesn't deserve jump to keep consistency with 01:27:203 (3,4) -, you were using jump every two patterns, 01:26:303 - jump, 01:27:503 - no jump, 01:28:703 - jump, 01:29:603 - no jump, also you weren't following every cymbal, if not take a look to 01:23:903 -, just too much jump in a row for a salad diff. indeed, fixed
5. 01:42:503 (5,6) - reduce this distance, current distance is too long imo, also it have a second purpose cause stack doesn't fit the song on 01:43:103 (6,1) -, so you can press ctrl+h to 01:43:553 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and then move everything a bit to the left to re-adjust the distance with 01:43:103 (6) - that should be around 1.30x. done

Platter

1. from 00:20:303 - to 00:29:303 - Can I ask why this part is on 1/3? keep using 1/4 as higher diffs please. 1/3 are less intense than 1/4, I find it important because we have a high BPM song, we can also hear 1/3 sounds at the background so it's justified
2. 00:41:903 (6,1) - reduce this distance, keep consistency with 00:39:503 (4,1) -, currently is a tedious movement for a platter diff cause you have an hyperdash before this jump. done
3. 01:05:753 (6,1,2,3,4) - I don't recommend you more distance between 01:05:903 (1,2) - cause you have a hyper dash on the previous objects, so at this kind of diffs, also reconsidering the BPM, It's better to put a normal transition to make smoother movements, then you should reduce to 1.00x at 01:06:503 (3,4) - too cause you are mapping based on consistency as I saw. I made them for the spread between Salad and Rain, the transition is already smooth because there are no tricky antiflows or something similar, reducing it to 1.00x will break the consistency because I use 1.50x for Clap sounds.
4. 01:10:703 (1,2,3,4) - same as above. same thing

Rain

1. 00:34:253 (2,3) - I recommend you to remove the current hyperdash, the reason is for spread, Leviathan, Overdose and Rain have the same pattern. done
2. 00:37:103 (1,2) - they doesn't deserve hyperdash, feels overenphasized. why ? we can clearly hear the strong beat here and i did the same for the next one.
3. 01:07:853 - add clapalright
4. 01:08:153 - remove clap, 01:07:853 - and 01:08:003 - are enough. sure

Overdose

1. 01:05:753 - why clap if there isn't a sound that supports it? remove it pls. done
2. 01:08:003 - clap instead of whistle. done
3. 01:08:153 - remove clap here, the current sound isn't strong as 01:07:853 - or 01:08:003 -, so you should demostrate the difference between them it is actually strong too, maybe even stronger than 01:07:853 -

Leviathan

1. 00:07:553 (1,2,3,4,5) - reduce this distance, I consider this jumps as "edge jumps" cause there is a very large spacing between each objects and the first object must be caught with the edge of the plate in order to catch the second object at all. Following the ranking criteria: Edge dashes may be used with caution for a maximum of three consecutive objects, and should not be used in conjunction with hyperdashes, currently you have more than 3 edge dashes with hyperdashes at the beginning and at the end, so you must reduce the current distances. nerfed the spacing scaling a bit, but actually it's not a edge jump, you just need to keep dashing and it's easy to catch
2. 00:08:303 (1,2,3,4,5) - same as above. I will keep these spacing for this one because it's clearly stronger than the previous one, it's also easily catchable if you hold the dash button
3. 00:34:703 (1) - can you slant it a bit more, the reason is because as I told you on Rain, this part is identically the same as Overdose, but also the movement at Overdose is harder cause there is an antiflow after the hyperdash while here not, so my purpose is adding more distance here, +0.20x of distance is enough imo just to avoid repetitive pattern, I won't be picky on the rest cause this is the most noticeable at playing.alright
4. 01:08:003 - clap instead of whistle. This part is very inconsistent throughout the whole set, if you can re-check your hitsounds will be awesome. alright
5. 01:41:153 (4,5) - hyperdash should be here, not between 01:41:003 (3,4) -, keeping consistency with your previous patterns, it's weird if you enphasize one sound first and then you put hyperdashes to follow another sound done
6. 01:41:603 (1,2) - same as above, hyperdash here fits the song better, also why only 2 hyperdashes are destroying your consistency? cause 01:42:053 (4,5) - it's perfectly fine and keep consistency with previous patterns. alright

The set is ready imo, Call me back.

Kyuare wrote:

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Salad

1. 00:34:703 - the whole first kiai is really confusing cause you are skipping the cymbals, but after taking a look to 00:39:503 -, you can't skip such sound cause this is the beginning of the second half of the kiai and need enphasis as 00:34:403 (4,1) -, also why 00:39:803 - is a jump now while 00:35:003 - was a slider-end? please try to be constant on this kiai 2 dash in a row for a Salad at 200BPM is way too intense and hard for beginners, I will put only one at the beginning of the kiai for the consistency and the new section but no more because they are really hard. you missunderstand me here, I'm suggesting to enphasize 00:39:503 - with jump, not 00:39:803 - as you did on 00:34:403 (4,1,2) -

Platter
I forgot: AR8 to fix spread.

1. from 00:20:303 - to 00:29:303 - Can I ask why this part is on 1/3? keep using 1/4 as higher diffs please. 1/3 are less intense than 1/4, I find it important because we have a high BPM song, we can also hear 1/3 sounds at the background so it's justified talked in pm, by your own risk, just pointing out again to don't forget that I told you to avoid 1/3 xd forget it, I'm baka~~

Rain

1. 01:08:153 - remove clap, 01:07:853 - and 01:08:003 - are enough. sure

Overdose

1. 01:08:153 - remove clap here, the current sound isn't strong as 01:07:853 - or 01:08:003 -, so you should demostrate the difference between them it is actually strong too, maybe even stronger than 01:07:853 - hmm? remove clap for consistency with your reply on Rain, also with other diffs pls xd.

The set is ready imo, Call me back.

Awesome, thank you very much.

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Little re-check before bubble

Salad

1. 00:34:703 - the whole first kiai is really confusing cause you are skipping the cymbals, but after taking a look to 00:39:503 -, you can't skip such sound cause this is the beginning of the second half of the kiai and need enphasis as 00:34:403 (4,1) -, also why 00:39:803 - is a jump now while 00:35:003 - was a slider-end? please try to be constant on this kiai 2 dash in a row for a Salad at 200BPM is way too intense and hard for beginners, I will put only one at the beginning of the kiai for the consistency and the new section but no more because they are really hard. you missunderstand me here, I'm suggesting to enphasize 00:39:503 - with jump, not 00:39:803 - as you did on 00:34:403 (4,1,2) - oh, alright

Platter
I forgot: AR8 to fix spread.

1. from 00:20:303 - to 00:29:303 - Can I ask why this part is on 1/3? keep using 1/4 as higher diffs please. 1/3 are less intense than 1/4, I find it important because we have a high BPM song, we can also hear 1/3 sounds at the background so it's justified talked in pm, by your own risk, just pointing out again to don't forget that I told you to avoid 1/3 xd forget it, I'm baka~~

Rain

1. 01:08:153 - remove clap, 01:07:853 - and 01:08:003 - are enough. sure

Overdose

1. 01:08:153 - remove clap here, the current sound isn't strong as 01:07:853 - or 01:08:003 -, so you should demostrate the difference between them it is actually strong too, maybe even stronger than 01:07:853 - hmm? remove clap for consistency with your reply on Rain, also with other diffs pls xd. whups alright :d

The set is ready imo, Call me back.

1. There are conflicting timing points in the Salad at 00:34:703 -. Furthermore, I noticed that the uninherited (red) timing point there actually does nothing: doesn't change the BPM, the offset nor the signature, so it's useless. Delete that uninherited timing point in all diffs.

1. 00:06:353 (3,1) - I would reduce this distance a bit, as the direction change can make it a bit hard to catch for players of this level.
2. I'd reduce the distance of some 2/1 spacings a little bit, for example, those in 00:10:103 (1,2) -, 00:11:303 (3,4) -, 00:24:503 (1,2,3) - or 00:49:103 (3,1) - (non-exhaustive listing).
3. 00:25:703 (3,4) - Reduce this spacing, as it is quite large compared to similar parts and can leave players in an uncomfortable position before moving to the next object, which also involves direction changes.
4. 00:58:703 (1,2,3,4) - I'd put these a bit closer, to add some leniency on the pattern, especially for (1,2) since it comes after a 1/2 movement. Should also apply for the repetition at 01:01:103 (1) - .

1. Reduce the distance after 1/2 dashes, to add some leniency should players overshoot the dash. Keep in mind that Salads are intended to teach players to dash, so they don't control it that well. Examples of this are 00:34:703 (1,2) -, 00:39:503 (4,1) -, 00:41:903 (6,1) - and 00:44:303 (1,2) - (again, non-exhaustive listing).
2. 00:42:653 (2,3,1) - These dashes are inconsistent with previous patterns, so I'd take them out.
3. 00:48:803 (7) - I think you missed a good chance to add a dash to the downbeat here.
4. 01:08:003 (4,5,6) - (5) is stronger than (6), so (4,5) should be a larger distance than (5,6).
5. 01:13:103 (1,2) - This is quite a large distance, in fact it's actually larger than the distance a slider would have, reduce it.
6. 01:14:303 (4,1,2) - These are 1/3 dashes, which are way too hard for a Salad considering the BPM of this song, so keep the pattern walkable.
7. 01:30:353 (2,3) - This is a bit hard to catch, and (3) is a really weak sound, so I'd delete it.
8. 01:43:103 (6,1) - Really ambiguous distance here, I'd reduce it a bit to make it more clearly walkable.

1. 00:00:503 (1,2,3,4,5) - Feels a bit hard for the start. I'd keep distances such as 00:00:503 (1,2) - at x1.00 and distances like 00:00:803 (2,3) - at x1.70, to make the dashes a bit clearer.
2. 00:06:803 (1,2) - Reduce the distance a bit, to make it more easily walkable. Also applies for 00:09:053 (1,2) - .
3. Some sliders are a bit demanding in accuracy, which isn't really fitting for a Platter yet. Some examples are 00:13:103 (3) - , 00:14:303 (3) -, and 00:14:903 (1,3,4) - (again, non-exhaustive listing).
4. 00:19:303 (3,4,5,6) - Considering the change in snapping, I'd reduce the distances to make it more easily walkable, particularly the 1/4 triplet, which can be easy to miss.
5. 00:29:303 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not a big fan of these symmetric patterns, as it misses emphasis on some notes. In this case, (2,3) should be larger than (1,2) because (3) is stronger. Also applies for the following patterns.
6. 00:32:303 (5,6) - Is this intended to be dashed or walked? It feels a bit ambiguous for a Platter as it is now. Similar stuff with 00:37:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and 00:46:703 (1,2,3) - (and it's repetition).
7. 00:47:603 (5,6) - The sudden increase in distance leaves this with a rather ambiguous and uncomfortable distance, especially considering (6) has an hyperdash on it. Reduce the spacing. Also applies for 00:52:403 (5,6) -
8. For the whole section starting at 01:14:403 -, I'd reduce the distance because some of the patterns aren't that easy to catch by walking, for example 01:14:803 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -.
9. 01:21:403 (6,1) - I think you're missing a good chance to add an HDash to mark the beginning of the Kiai. I would delete 01:21:403 (6) - and move (1) around to create an HDash between 01:21:303 (5,1) - .
10. 01:43:103 (7,1) - I'd reduce this distance to add some leniency after the HDash.

1. 00:40:253 (2) - I would make this a 1/2 repeat slider instead, as a proper fruit is easier to catch than a drop considering the antiflow after the HDash.
2. 00:46:703 (1) - Why is this a 3/4 slider? Should be a 1/2 one, and even on the top diff you don't have an extended slider. Also applies for 00:51:503 (1) -, 00:53:903 (1) - and 00:56:303 (1) -

1. 00:39:803 (2) - Same comment as in the Overdose
2. 00:54:503 (3,4,5,6) - I think the 3/2 sounds are way more strong than the drumroll, so I'd delete (3,5,6). Also applies for 00:56:903 (3,4,5,6) - .
3. 01:16:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why are these paired as doublets? The stronger sound is at (4), so they should be split in (1,2,3) and (4,5,6) like you've done, for example, on 01:13:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - . Also applies for 01:17:903 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
4. 01:41:003 (3,6,3) - These are overmapped. Delete them.

ZiRoX wrote:

Popping the bubble as I noticed some issues when I testplayed yesterday. Bolded stuff is what I deem most critical, including some unrankables.

[General]

1. There are conflicting timing points in the Salad at 00:34:703 -. Furthermore, I noticed that the uninherited (red) timing point there actually does nothing: doesn't change the BPM, the offset nor the signature, so it's useless. Delete that uninherited timing point in all diffs. alright

[Cup]

1. 00:06:353 (3,1) - I would reduce this distance a bit, as the direction change can make it a bit hard to catch for players of this level. I already nerfed it from 0.10x and I prefer to keep the same spacing for the consistency. The direction change isn't that hard tho, no one shitmissed here.
2. I'd reduce the distance of some 2/1 spacings a little bit, for example, those in 00:10:103 (1,2) -, 00:11:303 (3,4) -, 00:24:503 (1,2,3) - or 00:49:103 (3,1) - (non-exhaustive listing). same justification I prefer to keep same spacing for consistency and they aren't hard (maybe for the kiai but since it's a intense part i want to keep it sorry)
3. 00:25:703 (3,4) - Reduce this spacing, as it is quite large compared to similar parts and can leave players in an uncomfortable position before moving to the next object, which also involves direction changes. alright nerfed by ~0.10x
4. 00:58:703 (1,2,3,4) - I'd put these a bit closer, to add some leniency on the pattern, especially for (1,2) since it comes after a 1/2 movement. Should also apply for the repetition at 01:01:103 (1) - . I agree, nerfed them from ~0.10x

[Salad]

1. Reduce the distance after 1/2 dashes, to add some leniency should players overshoot the dash. Keep in mind that Salads are intended to teach players to dash, so they don't control it that well. Examples of this are 00:34:703 (1,2) -, 00:39:503 (4,1) -, 00:41:903 (6,1) - and 00:44:303 (1,2) - (again, non-exhaustive listing). They are already easily walkable but I agree that it can be a bit tricky for beginners. I still want to keep some spacing but will just nerf it by ~>0.10x
2. 00:42:653 (2,3,1) - These dashes are inconsistent with previous patterns, so I'd take them out. It's a new section, there are more strong beats than the previous one, and I wanted to use them for more diversity.
3. 00:48:803 (7) - I think you missed a good chance to add a dash to the downbeat here. I want to keep it as it is for consistency with other strong beat, it's also for the difficulty spread because a dash here would be really hard.
4. 01:08:003 (4,5,6) - (5) is stronger than (6), so (4,5) should be a larger distance than (5,6). I prefer to keep equal spacing for the design,
   5 is indeed a bit stronger than 6 but I think that it's fine to keep it.
5. 01:13:103 (1,2) - This is quite a large distance, in fact it's actually larger than the distance a slider would have, reduce it. It's the same spacing than the other one and they are both fine, it's easily walkable.
6. 01:14:303 (4,1,2) - These are 1/3 dashes, which are way too hard for a Salad considering the BPM of this song, so keep the pattern walkable. They are actually walkable.
7. 01:30:353 (2,3) - This is a bit hard to catch, and (3) is a really weak sound, so I'd delete it. I won't delete it because I want to keep 1/2 gap consistency between sections, but I will nerf the spacing to make it easier to catch
8. 01:43:103 (6,1) - Really ambiguous distance here, I'd reduce it a bit to make it more clearly walkable. alright, nerfed it from ~0.10x

[Platter]

1. 00:00:503 (1,2,3,4,5) - Feels a bit hard for the start. I'd keep distances such as 00:00:503 (1,2) - at x1.00 and distances like 00:00:803 (2,3) - at x1.70, to make the dashes a bit clearer. yes
2. 00:06:803 (1,2) - Reduce the distance a bit, to make it more easily walkable. Also applies for 00:09:053 (1,2) - . alright, but not for 00:09:053 (1,2) - since beats are way stronger, I want to keep more spacing than the previous one.
3. Some sliders are a bit demanding in accuracy, which isn't really fitting for a Platter yet. Some examples are 00:13:103 (3) - , 00:14:303 (3) -, and 00:14:903 (1,3,4) - (again, non-exhaustive listing). fixed, I bent them a bit
4. 00:19:303 (3,4,5,6) - Considering the change in snapping, I'd reduce the distances to make it more easily walkable, particularly the 1/4 triplet, which can be easy to miss. alright, fixed it by bending the triplet to the right
5. 00:29:303 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not a big fan of these symmetric patterns, as it misses emphasis on some notes. In this case, (2,3) should be larger than (1,2) because (3) is stronger. Also applies for the following patterns. same justification as 01:08:003 (4,5,6) - for the Salad, I want to keep them with equal spacing for the design and the difference in intensity isn't big because the kick is here to balance with the synth
6. 00:32:303 (5,6) - Is this intended to be dashed or walked? It feels a bit ambiguous for a Platter as it is now. Similar stuff with 00:37:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and 00:46:703 (1,2,3) - (and it's repetition). It is intended to be walked but I want to keep this spacing to create this ambiguous effect because It really fit the song: we hear stronger beat here, but they not enough to deserve a dash.
7. 00:47:603 (5,6) - The sudden increase in distance leaves this with a rather ambiguous and uncomfortable distance, especially considering (6) has an hyperdash on it. Reduce the spacing. Also applies for 00:52:403 (5,6) - fixed it in my way, it's now easier to walk and I removed the antiflow too
8. For the whole section starting at 01:14:403 -, I'd reduce the distance because some of the patterns aren't that easy to catch by walking, for example 01:14:803 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -. nerfed 1/3 strong beats by 0.15x
9. 01:21:403 (6,1) - I think you're missing a good chance to add an HDash to mark the beginning of the Kiai. I would delete 01:21:403 (6) - and move (1) around to create an HDash between 01:21:303 (5,1) - . You are right but I actually prefer to keep (6) for the timeline, it also increase the intensity a lot thanks to the 1/3 dash so the beginning of the kiai is already well emphasized
10. 01:43:103 (7,1) - I'd reduce this distance to add some leniency after the HDash. already reduced it by 0.10x before, I want to keep some spacing for the new section. We also have a big gap in the timeline so it's nice to have some spacing between them.

[Overdose]

1. 00:40:253 (2) - I would make this a 1/2 repeat slider instead, as a proper fruit is easier to catch than a drop considering the antiflow after the HDash. Here I prefer to follow 1/1 beat with proper fruit to make the following 1/2 repeat slider more intense (to follow the song), I also want to keep this antiflow effect because it really fit the song.
2. 00:46:703 (1) - Why is this a 3/4 slider? Should be a 1/2 one, and even on the top diff you don't have an extended slider. Also applies for 00:51:503 (1) -, 00:53:903 (1) - and 00:56:303 (1) - indeed, fixed

[Laevateinn]

1. 00:39:803 (2) - Same comment as in the Overdose same thing, it's here to make the following 1/2 repeat slider stronger
2. 00:54:503 (3,4,5,6) - I think the 3/2 sounds are way more strong than the drumroll, so I'd delete (3,5,6). Also applies for 00:56:903 (3,4,5,6) - . I will keep them as it is because I want to emphasize them, I used it for 00:55:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - too
3. 01:16:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why are these paired as doublets? The stronger sound is at (4), so they should be split in (1,2,3) and (4,5,6) like you've done, for example, on 01:13:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - . Also applies for 01:17:903 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Yes, fixed
4. 01:41:003 (3,6,3) - These are overmapped. Delete them. whups my bad.

As far as I know Benny is also going to take a look at this. -Sh1n1- should be allowed to rebubble/qualify provided that the bolded issues get fixed.

Good luck!

Benny- wrote:

General

1. Regarding that timing point ZiRoX made you delete, it resets the metronome so it definately should be there. If you look closely at the timeline you'll notice all downbeats after 00:34:703 - are 2/1 later than the actual downbeat in the song. So yeah, re-add that timing point please lol nvm seems you fixed it again

Cup

1. 00:01:403 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - aaa all these have strong beats on slider tails!!! pls fix so strong beats are either single notes or on slider heads instead fixed
2. 00:42:203 (2) - this should end 1/2 earlier and add a note here for consistency with the other doubles 00:42:503 - alright
3. 01:20:903 (3,1) - this is a tiny bit too long, you have to turn instantly upon hitting (3) which requires a lot of movement control nerfed from 1.50x to 1.30x

Salad

1. 00:01:703 (4,1) - swap nc yes
2. 00:02:003 (1,2,4) - same issue as in cup, strong beats are on slider ends fixed
3. 00:11:753 (4) - 00:14:153 (4) - etc feel really really awkward as 1/2 as the song is actually 1/3 but I guess it's for simplified rhythm or whatever but I'd either try making 1/3 doubles or removing those notes entirely as you're not even consistent with the usage of 1/2 triplets fixed in my way
4. 00:48:803 (7) - The beat on the slider end here is pretty prominent and you've had a good 1/1 dash to all other downbeats in this section, so maybe try do something similar fixed
5. 01:12:953 (5,1) - Would really love to see a dash here as 1 is very very strong, but then also reduce 01:13:103 (1,2) - it's indeed a strong beat but I prefer to keep consistency with the following strong beat, I also find that a dash would be too much for this density.
6. 01:14:303 (4,1,2) - Here too, would love to see a few dashes 1/3 dashes are unrankable
7. 01:45:353 (6) - nc here? Combo is getting a bit long sure

Platter

1. 00:19:703 - This part feels very very awkward when you mix 1/2 with 1/3. I'd try either removing notes on red ticks 00:20:153 (2) - 00:21:353 (2) - 00:23:303 (1,2) - or snap them to 1/3 as well for both better playability but also cause it sounds weird af as it is now They are actually totally fine and play well o.o I started by 1/3s and finished by 1/4 and we can see the difference in game. I wanted to keep this snapping to create a "slow to fast" effect that fit well with the song.
2. Other than that, this diff lacks normal dashes. Most patterns are easily walkable excluding the hyperdash so please try increasing the distances where you feel there should be a normal dash managed to put some dash without breaking the whole structure

Rain

1. 00:16:703 (3,4,5,6,1) - I think this might be a bit too antiflowy for a Rain, especially when this type of antiflow is found nowhere else in the map it is here to introduce the player to easy 1/3 antiflow, we actually have similar pattern here too: 01:16:403 (4,5,6,1) -. 1/3 antiflows are way harder in overdose so I think it's better to put some here, they aren't hard to catch.
2. 00:19:103 (3) - You can start with the 1/4 already here cause the piano is bulding up here and not here 00:19:403 - also would fit great to match with 00:28:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It's actually 1/4 here
3. 00:34:253 (2,3) - I think a hyper here would be fitting considering the strong beat on (3) indeed
4. 00:34:703 - A lot of rhythm inconsistencies in this first kiai here. 00:34:703 (1,2,3,4) - 00:37:403 (2,3,4) - first all 1/2 then over to 00:39:803 (1,2) - 00:42:203 (1,2) - 1/1 sliders where the music is the exact same. Also you're switching very inconsistently between 1/2 rhythm and 1/1 rhythm. You could try starting all melody resets with two 1/1 sliders and have the rest as 1/2. fixed
5. 00:38:303 (1,2,3,4) - the violin in the background (i think that's what it is) starts bulding up on here 00:38:903 (4) - not 00:38:753 (2) - so I'd try removing (3) and have a jump between 00:38:753 (2,4) - instead. I feel this fits the music better. same goes here 00:43:403 (3,4,5,6) - alright

Overdose

1. 00:34:703 - Same as Rain, a lot of rhythm inconsistencies, you go from all 1/2 00:34:703 (1,2,3,4,5) - to suddenly following the melody with 1/1 sliders 00:39:503 (10,1,2) - . Please fix fixed
2. 00:36:428 (3) - I don't think you should have a triplet here when you don't have a triplet any other place in this kiai.. Basically remove for consistency indeed
3. 00:49:103 (1) - Also think this would be better as 1/2 since the piano is mapped everywhere else in this part indeed
4. 00:49:103 (1) - And same here, doesn't make sense to suddenly use 1/1 slider
5. 01:21:503 (1,2) - 01:23:903 (1,2) - And again we have the consistency issue, here you have a 1/1 slider with a 1/2 slider repeating once while later on you just use two 1/1 sliders 01:26:303 (1,2) - 01:31:103 (1,2) - stick to one of them pls alright
6. 01:24:953 (4,1) - Try adding at least a dash here, it's just a straight line almost with close to no movement the beat isn't that strong to deserve a dash, and I prefer to keep this design.
7. 01:38:453 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - 01:40:853 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - Could you try making these 1/1 curved sliders and see how you feel about that? I feel that connects the map a bit better. no sorry I already tried that and prefer to use single fruits to create a "stop" effect that fit well with the song.

Laevateinn

1. 00:35:003 (2,3) - I think it would fit better if you delete 3 and put on 1 repeat on both 2 and 4 and have a dash between them to follow the synth, makes it a bit more interesting. At least that's what you've done here 00:40:253 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - so please stick solely to either following drums or the synth. This can be done on a lot of other places as well. changed the timeline here for consistency with the following section
2. 00:36:428 (3) - Same as in Overdose, there's nothing standing out here so I don't see the point of a random triplet yes
3. 00:38:303 (7,1) - swap nc sure
4. 00:39:503 (1,2) - why is this mapped differently timeline-wise than 00:34:703 (1,2,3,4) - also the fact that 00:39:503 (1,2) - are placed on the exact same grid is kinda flow breaking fixed the timeline, but the flow breaking effect is wanted and I'd like to keep it.
5. 00:41:903 (1,2,3) - same here, sudden rhythm change just feels inconsistent and also same as above with 00:42:203 (2,3) - two notes on the same grid is flowbreaking same thing here too, the timeline is fixed now, and the flowbreaking effect is wanted
6. 00:58:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - very weirdly flowing pattern which I think would work a lot better with its surroundings if you could try moving (2) to the same place as (1) to make a dash to (3) where the pitch is rising and also move (5) to (4). I think this fits the music better sorry I want to keep this pattern to first avoid repetitive pattern because we already have them 2 times in a row after that, but also because I personally really love them.

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General

1. What's the reason for AR8.2 on the Platter? Easier reading on higher density? Seems weird that you only buffed it on this difficulty, maybe you want to consider AR8 here for an easier transition from the Salad unless you feel it would really affect the playability. yeah you got it, AR8 with this density make it too hard to read, especially for 1/3 streams.

Cup

1. 00:05:603 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I find how you switch between drum and synth rhythms here really weird, and a new player will struggle to understand what you're following here I think. Synth is clearer for me, especially at 00:07:553 (3,4) - and onwards, so I'd move 00:06:353 (3) - forward to the downbeat, 00:07:403 (2) - back to the previous red tick, and 00:07:403 (2) - back 1/2 a tick also. End result something like:
   
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2. 01:20:903 (3,1) - Unexpectedly high spacing at this BPM, even though this is the kiai start and it deserves emphasis, a little reduction on this wouldn't hurt alright

Salad

1. 00:01:403 (3,1) - Not a good idea to introduce your first dash as a 1/2 spacing at 200BPM. Yes the drum sound is intense, but players need more easing into the difficulty before they can be comfortable with something like this. Making (3) a single circle instead to give a 1/1 spacing would be much more lenient sure
2. 00:36:353 (6,7) - Sound here isn't really strong enough to deserve dash imo. It's weaker than 00:38:303 (1,2,3) - which didn't have a dash, and since it's followed by a strong walk in the opposite direction, it'll be easy for new players to overshoot and miss here indeed

Platter

1. 00:22:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very repetitive with previous section, feels a bit boring to play. Since pitch is decreasing here, how about an inverted pattern such as - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8897157 - to provide some variety? Also, if you could use more of the left side of the screen, that would also break the monotony a bit, since everything here is centre-right at the moment alright, i also fixed the following triplet for consistency
2. 00:29:303 (1,2,3) - 00:30:503 (5,6,7) - Are these intended to be walkable? They're a little tight at the moment, and I really wouldn't recommend double 1/2 dash at 200BPM here, so try reducing these just a little nerfed them from 0.10x
3. This diff looks so much better than it did when I last saw it months ago. Good job. thank you

Rain

1. Nothing to complain about here, great diff. thank you

Overdose

1. 00:40:253 (2) - Music here isn't intense enough to justify such a sharp antiflow curve compared to 00:40:703 (3,4) - imo, consider making this one a little bit more vertical so that large drop isn't quit so annoying to hit curved it more, did the game for the next section since it's the same slider
2. 01:16:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Transitioning into a half regular, half antiflow pattern here with hypers is really jarring when your previous ones were either both regular flow (e.g. 01:15:503 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -) or both antiflow (e.g. 01:16:103 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -). For consistency and given the pitch is increasing here, making (4,5,6) regular flow makes more sense and is more "expected" by the player based on what came before. Easy fix by moving 01:17:103 (5) to x-120 no sorry, it's a new section and the following pattern is the same so consistency is fine. I also prefer to keep this half regular, half antiflow pattern for more diversity.

I'm too rusty to give anything helpful on the top diff, but hopefully these suggestions help you in some way. Good luck! (:

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