syzfonics - Never Ending [OsuMania]

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Fresh Chicken
I just saw what DG commented to mod
DG, I know why you god angry but please don't expressed that to outside even if you got angry.
Rejecting is fine but please don't insult someone in public places.
Hope you understand what I mean. Hope you apology for it.

And please stop the dramas guys, that's just a one thing that makes tired mapper and you both. I don't know what happened here corretly but it's all what I can say.
Davin Fortune
I think spe should do more explanation on his mod since many of us don't like how you answer the mod. Just that :/
mijkolsmith
hi spe maybe add 01:04:145 (64145|3) - and 01:13:745 (73745|0) -
good luck :D
Topic Starter
SpectorDG

mijkolsmith wrote:

hi spe maybe add 01:04:145 (64145|3) - and 01:13:745 (73745|0) -
good luck :D
i will update later . . thank you
Harbyter
well don't give up spect, i think you understand what you have done and you're sad about it .

It's never late to fix something if you know what to do :)
Topic Starter
SpectorDG
thank you harbaya i will try my best now, thanks for all guys :cry:
CommandoBlack
Still waiting for re-qualify >:(
hooFLIZE
please re-qualfy ..
Outlaww
waiting for never ending pp requalify
Topic Starter
SpectorDG
Okay lets do this! Round3 it's last i guess

Takane6 wrote:

hi spector !!!
im here after hve some review with this mappu =w=

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and there is it :
take a look both LN at EXH and GRV >> 01:18:020 (78020|3) - which is not in same length https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5371794 which is unrankable issues (?) ^
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and some opinion maybe (ignoreable)
[EXH]
from 01:37:220 - until 01:43:757 - you can add each white lane a note for emphasis the beat? and for a difference with diff ADV as well I'm rearranged that, im already find some unrankable stuffs and fixed some pattern
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[ADV]
01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - hmmm about what puxtu n shinzo hve pointed out... i can tolerate about this note in the EXH-GRV diff but maybe you can delete this in diff ADV... i still like current, and it's "Rankable" so no need to delete we can hear that 10/10
since the sound ALMOST cant be heard... im telling this because if you make 1 note for that sound,this note here >> 01:35:270 (95270|3,95345|2) - also use 1 note while we know the note power there is very different... thats okay, it's fine
btw you did keep empty at here 00:48:417 - because GRV and EXH hve the note inside right? so why not do the same as this then? >> 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - about 00:48:417 - this . . im following 1/2 here, so no need 1/4 stream here because it's ADVANCED
and this 01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) it's still ok . . actually no difference here
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also add note at here 01:15:245 - both diff EXH and GRV (refference as diff ADV) I'm keep that sounds ADV EXH GRV both sorry no need both
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i hope this reallly can help you =w=)b
dont give up !!!
trying Be Gentle

thanks for your opinion Takane6!

and I'm Fixed everything re-checked HS & Pattern Unrankable stuffs
Evening
ok

20:20 SpectorDG: Zenny
20:20 *SpectorDG is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/899136 syzfonics - Never Ending]
20:20 SpectorDG: lets do this!
20:20 Evening: wud
20:20 SpectorDG: vol3
20:20 *SpectorDG is away: just ok :D
20:20 Evening: oh bubble?
20:20 SpectorDG: aa round3*
20:21 SpectorDG: impovred EXH
20:21 SpectorDG: im fixed some stuffs and patterns
20:21 *SpectorDG is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/899136 syzfonics - Never Ending [EXHAUST]]
20:21 Evening: ugh i'll have to look through everything again lol
20:22 SpectorDG: ya XD
20:22 SpectorDG: im really afraid ask others
20:22 SpectorDG: because there are so many dramas
20:22 SpectorDG: ;w;
20:24 Evening: maaan i don't think the EXH to GRV gap is ok lol
20:24 SpectorDG: lmao
20:24 SpectorDG: wait XD
20:24 Evening: like uhh the ending to be specific
20:24 SpectorDG: im re-arranged EXH last part
20:25 Evening: oh ok
20:25 Evening: i'll do something else for now then
20:25 SpectorDG: because blocko still .... XD
20:25 Evening: bleh bocko guy is sleeping
20:25 Evening: :(
20:49 SpectorDG: okay checked everything
20:50 Evening: so uh
20:50 Evening: can i check now
20:50 SpectorDG: okay :D
20:51 Evening: ah
20:51 Evening: did you update
20:51 SpectorDG: already
20:51 Evening: 01:37:220 (97220|3) - soo uhh this could be much harder
20:51 Evening: like minijacks and whatnot
20:52 Evening: lemme cook up some patterns
20:52 SpectorDG: waa it's 1/3 owo
20:52 SpectorDG: really need that? it's EXH owo
20:52 Evening: uh yea, the gap to GRV is big lmao
20:52 Evening: unless you wanna nerf grb
20:52 Evening: grb
20:52 Evening: grv
20:52 Evening: grabity
20:53 SpectorDG: hmm can i rearrange grabity start 1/3 ?
20:53 Evening: D:
20:54 SpectorDG: 12 12 12 34 34 34 owo
20:54 Evening: you can make it less hard
20:54 Evening: so i can accept EXH - GRV gap
20:54 SpectorDG: gimmee Screenshoooootss
20:54 Evening: which one
20:54 Evening: harder EXH or easier grv
20:55 SpectorDG: harder EXH
20:55 SpectorDG: i won't get ez PP :p
20:55 SpectorDG: and i want EXH sr for 4+
20:55 SpectorDG: not -4
20:56 SpectorDG: owait toilet aaa
20:56 Evening: oh
20:56 Evening: baibai
21:00 SpectorDG: im bac
21:00 Evening: ok so from uhhh
21:01 Evening: 01:37:220 - TO 01:39:593 -
21:01 SpectorDG: okay
21:01 Evening: http://puu.sh/pD2m3/264ad3b8b6.jpg
21:01 Evening: from there to 01:41:848 -
21:01 Evening: http://puu.sh/pD2nQ/30bbc0e642.jpg
21:02 Evening: or you can do it the other way
21:02 Evening: idk
21:12 SpectorDG: ok
21:12 SpectorDG: updating
21:13 SpectorDG: done
21:14 Evening: 01:41:755 (101755|1) - eeeh not sure but do you want do move this to 4
21:14 SpectorDG: aaa my bad
21:15 SpectorDG: moved
21:15 Evening: oh no i didn't put that in the screenshot
21:15 SpectorDG: i want last update :p
21:15 SpectorDG: yea
21:15 SpectorDG: your screenshot's this note at 2 XD
21:17 *SpectorDG is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/899136 syzfonics - Never Ending [EXHAUST]]
21:17 SpectorDG: 01:41:755 (101755|3) - aa moved to 1
21:17 SpectorDG: it's better
21:18 SpectorDG: because [http://puu.sh/pD35Z/d553ad32bb.jpg that]
21:21 SpectorDG: NEVER ENDING JACKIE CHAN & LONG NOSE
21:21 Evening: oh
21:22 Evening: ok tell me when you updateds
21:22 SpectorDG: ok i will update now
21:23 SpectorDG: Time for JACKIE CHAN!!
21:24 Evening: wh
21:24 SpectorDG: time for never ending lmao
21:26 Evening: oki uhhh
21:26 Evening: anything else
21:28 Evening: *poke*
21:29 SpectorDG: owo hi poked .. haha
21:29 Evening: anything else before i bubles
21:29 SpectorDG: everything looks great
21:29 Evening: o ok
21:29 Evening: bubledsde
21:29 SpectorDG: okay
21:29 SpectorDG: aaa IRC
21:30 SpectorDG: post it
21:30 Evening: oh
Hydria
ok before this even approaches qualified time to give this an indepth mod to go through everything that just doesn't make sense in this:

00:03:968 (3968|1,4134|3,4301|0,4468|1) - shouldn't these be going down like the ones at 00:01:301 (1301|2,1468|1,1634|3,1801|2) - since it's essentially the same pattern of notes, same with 00:06:634 (6634|2,6801|3,6968|1,7134|2) -

00:02:301 (2301|3,2468|1) - these and any other set of 2 LNs in the intro don't make sense according to the music, but I guess it makes the map somewhat interesting

00:09:468 (9468|0,9634|1,9801|2) - why are these overlapping? each sound clearly cuts off after half a beat

00:10:468 (10468|1) - you could do a trill up these LNs, entirely optional though

00:11:634 - should be a 2 note chord seeing as there's a drum beat + background compared to the note at 00:11:801 - which is background only

00:11:968 - to 00:18:801 - the way you have piano and piano + drums layered both as 2 notes here is something I personally disagree with but if you would change it I feel like the stronger piano would have to be quads which is very debatable layering, you could have each piano + drums part + loud piano (with or without drums) layered as 3 notes, but again that's completely up to you

00:19:134 - could possibly layer 1/8ths in there, like http://puu.sh/pDbpN/0f85d55f2c.png but it's very risky to do so, more of a "possibility" than anything else

00:19:968 (19968|0) - what is this LN's purpose?

00:20:134 (20134|3,20301|2) - again with the LNs that are 1/2 bar too long

00:23:259 (23259|2) - should be 00:23:272 -

00:25:798 (25798|3,25838|2,25877|0) - ctrl-H

00:28:285 (28285|3,28311|2,28338|1,28364|0) - I don't hear 4 notes here

I feel like you could take 00:33:022 (33022|2) - out and replace it with 4 1/4 LNs instead

00:34:285 - I'm not gonna continue complaining about LN lengths, you can check them yourself

00:39:338 (39338|3,39338|0) - one of these LNs shouldn't exist, you've mapped an 2/3 LN to a drum kick, same 00:41:864 -

00:42:811 (42811|2,42969|1,43285|2) - so you're ignoring the main melody and just decided to map the FX here instead just because you wanted some more LN patterns, I would've stuck with the melody itself

00:53:759 (53759|0,55022|3,56285|0) - are these like legit mapped to any sound whatsoever because I can't hear a thing for what they should be mapped to

00:59:548 - I legit had to replay this part about 4 times before I could hear the really faint noise in the background, consider the possibility of remove 00:59:627 (59627|1,59785|3) - definitely seeing as the note before it as a 3/1 LN

01:03:518 (63518|0) - move to 3 to balance out jack

01:12:620 (72620|1,72620|2,72695|0,72770|1,72845|2) - this pattern is fine, but 01:12:695 (72695|0) - could be moved to 4, definitely optional

01:13:745 - missed a note?

01:18:020 - rip the 1/4 sound going through this section, just mapped as 1/2s instead, consider upping the difficulty here, up until 01:20:420 - anyway

01:20:570 (80570|2,80870|1,81170|3) - I want a justification for why these notes are here and are of 1/1 length.

01:22:820 - oh hey you finally started to map the 1/4 notes as the most boring pattern ever to grace a 5* map like jfc at least put some variance in there

01:27:470 - to 01:27:620 - is actually 1/8th, the 4th note before the 1/1 just seems to be cut slightly

01:30:620 (90620|1) - sure about that 1/1?

01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - these are like literally inaudible whilst playing

01:37:220 - I mean I could complain about these but I'll leave that to people that would actually play this map
00:03:968 (3968|1,4134|0,4301|1,4468|3) - same as gravity

00:06:634 (6634|3,6801|2,6968|1,7134|2) - this is actually more acceptable than the gravity diff lmao

00:09:301 (9301|3,9468|2,9634|1) - ln lengths

00:11:634 - 2 notes

00:11:634 - dude nice literal mirror of the gravity diff, same applies to hear what I said in gravity, but with a bit more leniency towards 2 note chords which might actually make this section fine in exhaust already, just thought I'd point it out thoughhttp://puu.sh/pDd7q/403a18d6f2.jpg

00:19:968 (19968|0,20134|1,20301|2) -

00:23:233 - same snapping issues apply here from grav diff

00:52:759 (52759|3,52838|2,52917|3,52917|1,52996|2,53075|3) - ew what is this, move 00:52:917 (52917|3) - to 1

00:53:864 (53864|0) - ?_?

00:55:127 (55127|0) - ?_?_?

00:56:390 (56390|3) - ?_?_?_?

00:57:654 (57654|0) - ?_?_?_?_?

00:58:285 (58285|0) - you're basically using that to balance out the jacking pattern, aren't you?

01:04:145 - note?

01:22:820 - this is more acceptable on the EXHAUST but it's not hard for people to play 190 index at 4.25* like literally

01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - again still questionable

01:37:220 - believe it or not, this ending is actually harder than the GRAVITY ending, at least in my opinion, and I'm sure others would share the same.
00:35:785 (35785|1,35864|2) - shift one column to the left?

00:38:233 (38233|1,38311|2) - ^

if that last one is applied, move 00:38:390 (38390|0) - to 3

01:01:127 - prob should remain a single note in an ADVANCED

01:23:345 (83345|1,83420|2,83495|1,83570|2) - this literally stands out as not making any bit of sense, you might wanna rearrange the pattern here

01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - 3rd time's the charm hopefully
00:08:468 (8468|2,8551|1) - shift one to the left

00:19:301 (19301|1) - move to 4

01:22:370 (82370|1) - move to 3?
too lazy to check, I'm sure it's fine orz

Final thoughts: IDK about this gravity diff man, it just feels so out of place with the rest of the mapset. I understand that you were trying to do something cool with it but half the LNs just don't make sense and the ending is mapped literally for SR alone (removing the ending literally drops the SR from 4.97->3.99), it just seems like a more solid mapset without it. I think people need to realise that you don't get worthful respect from mapping overinflated SR diffs that give a lot of pp, respect from the most important mappers comes from maps that are unique and different and whilst the LNs are nice, sadly the pp farm from this diff overshadows any hope of uniqueness.
Julie
Hydria for BN
LinkTaylord
RANK RANK RANK RANK! :D
I still waiting the pp rain (?)
Good Luck Spector 7u7
Topic Starter
SpectorDG

Hydria wrote:

ok before this even approaches qualified time to give this an indepth mod to go through everything that just doesn't make sense in this:

00:03:968 (3968|1,4134|3,4301|0,4468|1) - shouldn't these be going down like the ones at 00:01:301 (1301|2,1468|1,1634|3,1801|2) - since it's essentially the same pattern of notes, same with 00:06:634 (6634|2,6801|3,6968|1,7134|2) - ?_?

00:02:301 (2301|3,2468|1) - these and any other set of 2 LNs in the intro don't make sense according to the music, but I guess it makes the map somewhat interesting Just im followed long piano sounds here

00:09:468 (9468|0,9634|1,9801|2) - why are these overlapping? each sound clearly cuts off after half a beat nah current is fine ♥

00:10:468 (10468|1) - you could do a trill up these LNs, entirely optional though here the strong beat . . . same as 00:21:134 (21134|1) -

00:11:634 - should be a 2 note chord seeing as there's a drum beat + background compared to the note at 00:11:801 - which is background only why here only 1 notes lmao added 1 00:11:634 -

00:11:968 - to 00:18:801 - the way you have piano and piano + drums layered both as 2 notes here is something I personally disagree with but if you would change it I feel like the stronger piano would have to be quads which is very debatable layering, you could have each piano + drums part + loud piano (with or without drums) layered as 3 notes, but again that's completely up to you Ultra strong piano sounds for triple . . other piano sound + beats doubles . . it's simple

00:19:134 - could possibly layer 1/8ths in there, like http://puu.sh/pDbpN/0f85d55f2c.png but it's very risky to do so, more of a "possibility" than anything else sorry im keep that

00:19:968 (19968|0) - what is this LN's purpose? Piano and ups noise

00:20:134 (20134|3,20301|2) - again with the LNs that are 1/2 bar too long

00:23:259 (23259|2) - should be 00:23:272 - it's 1/2 . . not 1/8 feerum already checked that

00:25:798 (25798|3,25838|2,25877|0) - ctrl-H okie

00:28:285 (28285|3,28311|2,28338|1,28364|0) - I don't hear 4 notes here

I feel like you could take 00:33:022 (33022|2) - out and replace it with 4 1/4 LNs instead again following piano and ups noise .. it's arcwin's suggestion

00:34:285 - I'm not gonna continue complaining about LN lengths, you can check them yourself

00:39:338 (39338|3,39338|0) - one of these LNs shouldn't exist, you've mapped an 2/3 LN to a drum kick, same 00:41:864 -

00:42:811 (42811|2,42969|1,43285|2) - so you're ignoring the main melody and just decided to map the FX here instead just because you wanted some more LN patterns, I would've stuck with the melody itself

00:53:759 (53759|0,55022|3,56285|0) - are these like legit mapped to any sound whatsoever because I can't hear a thing for what they should be mapped to

00:59:548 - I legit had to replay this part about 4 times before I could hear the really faint noise in the background, consider the possibility of remove 00:59:627 (59627|1,59785|3) - definitely seeing as the note before it as a 3/1 LN

01:03:518 (63518|0) - move to 3 to balance out jack

01:12:620 (72620|1,72620|2,72695|0,72770|1,72845|2) - this pattern is fine, but 01:12:695 (72695|0) - could be moved to 4, definitely optional

01:13:745 - missed a note? no xD

01:18:020 - rip the 1/4 sound going through this section, just mapped as 1/2s instead, consider upping the difficulty here, up until 01:20:420 - anyway

01:20:570 (80570|2,80870|1,81170|3) - I want a justification for why these notes are here and are of 1/1 length.

01:22:820 - oh hey you finally started to map the 1/4 notes as the most boring pattern ever to grace a 5* map like jfc at least put some variance in there just im keeped LN's at this part

01:27:470 - to 01:27:620 - is actually 1/8th, the 4th note before the 1/1 just seems to be cut slightly youre right! rearranged 1/6 :arrow: 1/8

01:30:620 (90620|1) - sure about that 1/1? ?_?

01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - these are like literally inaudible whilst playing im really keep that

01:37:220 - I mean I could complain about these but I'll leave that to people that would actually play this map love this 1/3 <3
00:03:968 (3968|1,4134|0,4301|1,4468|3) - same as gravity Why? it's really fine

00:06:634 (6634|3,6801|2,6968|1,7134|2) - this is actually more acceptable than the gravity diff lmao Im copied GRV pattern for EXG

00:09:301 (9301|3,9468|2,9634|1) - ln lengths same of GRV

00:11:634 - 2 notes added

00:11:634 - dude nice literal mirror of the gravity diff, same applies to hear what I said in gravity, but with a bit more leniency towards 2 note chords which might actually make this section fine in exhaust already, just thought I'd point it out thoughhttp://puu.sh/pDd7q/403a18d6f2.jpg it's ok

00:19:968 (19968|0,20134|1,20301|2) -

00:23:233 - same snapping issues apply here from grav diff

00:52:759 (52759|3,52838|2,52917|3,52917|1,52996|2,53075|3) - ew what is this, move 00:52:917 (52917|3) - to 1 nice catch! moved

00:53:864 (53864|0) - ?_? ofcourse whiste clap + strong beat

00:55:127 (55127|0) - ?_?_?

00:56:390 (56390|3) - ?_?_?_?

00:57:654 (57654|0) - ?_?_?_?_?

00:58:285 (58285|0) - you're basically using that to balance out the jacking pattern, aren't you? it's ok

01:04:145 - note? no need :P

01:22:820 - this is more acceptable on the EXHAUST but it's not hard for people to play 190 index at 4.25* like literally

01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - again still questionable

01:37:220 - believe it or not, this ending is actually harder than the GRAVITY ending, at least in my opinion, and I'm sure others would share the same. no it's easier than GRAVITY
00:35:785 (35785|1,35864|2) - shift one column to the left? why not? XD applied

00:38:233 (38233|1,38311|2) - ^

if that last one is applied, move 00:38:390 (38390|0) - to 3

01:01:127 - prob should remain a single note in an ADVANCED ?_?

01:23:345 (83345|1,83420|2,83495|1,83570|2) - this literally stands out as not making any bit of sense, you might wanna rearrange the pattern here nah it's fine

01:34:595 (94595|2,94670|1,94745|2) - 3rd time's the charm hopefully sorry im really keep that
00:08:468 (8468|2,8551|1) - shift one to the left waat it's NOVICE no need

00:19:301 (19301|1) - move to 4 sorry keep

01:22:370 (82370|1) - move to 3? sorry keep 01:22:220 (82220|1,82370|1) - because same sounds here
too lazy to check, I'm sure it's fine orz

Final thoughts: IDK about this gravity diff man, it just feels so out of place with the rest of the mapset. I understand that you were trying to do something cool with it but half the LNs just don't make sense and the ending is mapped literally for SR alone (removing the ending literally drops the SR from 4.97->3.99), it just seems like a more solid mapset without it. I think people need to realise that you don't get worthful respect from mapping overinflated SR diffs that give a lot of pp, respect from the most important mappers comes from maps that are unique and different and whilst the LNs are nice, sadly the pp farm from this diff overshadows any hope of uniqueness.
thank you for mod Hydria! and about the LN's and diff spread . . it's really fine now!
Kuo Kyoka
Qualified.
Topic Starter
SpectorDG
Thank you KK!
mijkolsmith

mijkolsmith wrote:

hi spe maybe add 01:04:145 (64145|3) - and 01:13:745 (73745|0) -
good luck :D
uhm these still not added? hydria noted them too ;/
theyre not in grav
Topic Starter
SpectorDG
edit : =w=b
mijkolsmith
dude weed haha
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