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Puchiko
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 9:21:24 PM

Artist: dai
Title: Soar
Source: Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru
Tags: lambdadelta bernkastel 07th expansion episode 7 omegawpn
BPM: 180
Filesize: 1462kb
Play Time: 01:15
Difficulties Available:
  1. Candy (4.54 stars, 263 notes)
  2. Neko (3.51 stars, 149 notes)
  3. Normal+ (2.22 stars, 130 notes)
Download: dai - Soar
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Neko Diff by omegawpn

i hope can rank this map . Please mod it :D


Heldrith
Hello small NM here~

General changes
Maybe it's only me, but how about changing offset of BPM from 20 to 48? I think it will be more precise this way, but hmm.. maybe it will be too fast in Candy.. I'm not sure so I leave it to you ;)

In Song Setup panel:
-in General tab -> I would add Tittle, Source and Artist as well as tags :D
-in Design tab -> I would turn off Enable Countdown (your maps don't use it anyway ;) )
-in Colours tab--> I was wondering, maybe change of combo colours would be nice? To make them different than default ones? 8-)

Normal+
After change of offset (if you changed to 48) some sliders needs to be fixed in length to be ok again (in other map difficulties after change as well)(same thing after change of Slider Speed in Timing Section if such has been done)

In Song Setup panel in Difficulty tab, I think Approach Rate is kinda too fast even if this is Normal+ (for normal diff. it would be max 5 for AP/OD/HD)

I noticed that many elements are too far or too near from each other (if you pull some you will see that Distance Snap tool displace it in right place. I don't know if such far distance spacing like you made is ok especially in normal difficulty so I don't say to change it, but at least please be consistent and make all distances even. To do it you can use Distance Snap tool on the right of editor. Pressing "Alt" use your Mouse Wheel to change it as you wish :idea: (But I think you know about it already as you have set to 0,8x not 1x)

Neko
If I think right, Neko is like Hard difficulty, right? So I would advice to change slider speed to faster one than 1,30 as it is in Normal+ already. It will be more difficult than Normal+ that way~
00:16:353 (1) - during this slider I would make Soft sound samples part too, to make it repeat pattern you made at 00:15:019 with green slider.

I know my Mod isn't long and reffers only to some general issues, but I am not good at modding. You see I need mods myself for my maps :(
But I hope I helped even in small amount ;)
Topic Starter
Puchiko
Thx for modding :)

Heldrith wrote:

Hello small NM here~

General changes
Maybe it's only me, but how about changing offset of BPM from 20 to 48? I think it will be more precise this way, but hmm.. maybe it will be too fast in Candy.. I'm not sure so I leave it to you ;) i guess this timing is right

In Song Setup panel:
-in General tab -> I would add Tittle, Source and Artist as well as tags :D i dont think it's necessary
-in Design tab -> I would turn off Enable Countdown (your maps don't use it anyway ;) ) Fixed
-in Colours tab--> I was wondering, maybe change of combo colours would be nice? To make them different than default ones? 8-)i will try

Normal+
After change of offset (if you changed to 48) some sliders needs to be fixed in length to be ok again (in other map difficulties after change as well)(same thing after change of Slider Speed in Timing Section if such has been done) i guess this timing is right
In Song Setup panel in Difficulty tab, I think Approach Rate is kinda too fast even if this is Normal+ (for normal diff. it would be max 5 for AP/OD/HD) fixed to AR6.5

I noticed that many elements are too far or too near from each other (if you pull some you will see that Distance Snap tool displace it in right place. I don't know if such far distance spacing like you made is ok especially in normal difficulty so I don't say to change it, but at least please be consistent and make all distances even. To do it you can use Distance Snap tool on the right of editor. Pressing "Alt" use your Mouse Wheel to change it as you wish :idea: (But I think you know about it already as you have set to 0,8x not 1x) i'll keep this one and make new one easier

Neko
If I think right, Neko is like Hard difficulty, right? So I would advice to change slider speed to faster one than 1,30 as it is in Normal+ already. It will be more difficult than Normal+ that way~
00:16:353 (1) - during this slider I would make Soft sound samples part too, to make it repeat pattern you made at 00:15:019 with green slider.

I know my Mod isn't long and reffers only to some general issues, but I am not good at modding. You see I need mods myself for my maps :(
But I hope I helped even in small amount ;)
Lyawi
Heyo. Offset is 390~. Select all objects (strg + a) and move them on right the ticks. Also you have to correct the inherited points. :oops:
Topic Starter
Puchiko
Thank you. :)

Tati wrote:

Heyo. Offset is 390~. Select all objects (strg + a) and move them on right the ticks. Also you have to correct the inherited points. :oops:
moved to 56 (coz the map started at 56 not 390)
Seijiro
Timing is unique and it doesn't have to follow the beatmap's constraints.
The offset is 390 and unless you need to place inherited timings points before that, use the correct one.
Topic Starter
Puchiko
Thanks for your Clarification :)

MrSergio wrote:

Timing is unique and it doesn't have to follow the beatmap's constraints.
The offset is 390 and unless you need to place inherited timings points before that, use the correct one.
Shyotamaze
Hi, from #modreqs

General
  1. Add combo colours
  2. Disable grid snap, it prevents your creativity
Candy
  1. 00:00:390 (3,4,5,6) - Fix blanket
  2. 00:02:889 (6,1) - ^
  3. 00:05:556 (8,1) - ^
  4. 00:06:556 (4,5,6) - Weird spacing and collides with 00:06:223 (2) -
  5. 00:07:223 (7,8,9) - Maybe less straight
  6. 00:07:556 (10,11) - Fix blanket
  7. 00:08:389 (1) - Weird shape, try something different
  8. 00:10:056 (7,2) - Collides
  9. 00:11:056 (3,4) - Fix blanket
  10. 00:12:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It looks a bit random, try something different
  11. 00:13:389 (1,2,3,4,5) - Weird spacing (1 and 2), add a shape
  12. 00:14:056 (7,8,9,10,11) - Add a shape
  13. 00:14:556 (1,2) - Fix blanket
  14. 00:16:056 (3,4) - ^
  15. 00:27:056 (1,2) - ^
  16. 00:28:389 (1,2) - Collides
  17. 00:32:056 (7,1) - Fix blanket
  18. 00:33:473 (3,4) - Sounds more like a stream imo
  19. 00:34:223 (6,1) - Collides and fix blanket
  20. 00:37:973 (1,2) - Really weird, why not a stream instead?
  21. 00:39:056 (7,9) - Collides and fix blanket
  22. 00:44:139 (6) - Why not a stream instead?
  23. 00:47:389 (4,1) - Fix blanket
  24. 00:51:223 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Try to add a little shape everytime for better flow
  25. 00:59:556 (5,6) - Fix blanket
  26. 01:02:889 (7,8) - ^
  27. 01:03:723 (1,2) - ^
  28. 01:13:056 (2,3) - ^
That's it!
Good luck! ;)
Topic Starter
Puchiko
Fix most of your mod

Shyotamaze wrote:

Hi, from #modreqs

General
  1. Add combo colours
  2. Disable grid snap, it prevents your creativity
Candy
  1. 00:00:390 (3,4,5,6) - Fix blanket
  2. 00:02:889 (6,1) - ^
  3. 00:05:556 (8,1) - ^
  4. 00:06:556 (4,5,6) - Weird spacing and collides with 00:06:223 (2) -
  5. 00:07:223 (7,8,9) - Maybe less straight
  6. 00:07:556 (10,11) - Fix blanket
  7. 00:08:389 (1) - Weird shape, try something different
  8. 00:10:056 (7,2) - Collides
  9. 00:11:056 (3,4) - Fix blanket
  10. 00:12:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It looks a bit random, try something different
  11. 00:13:389 (1,2,3,4,5) - Weird spacing (1 and 2), add a shape
  12. 00:14:056 (7,8,9,10,11) - Add a shape
  13. 00:14:556 (1,2) - Fix blanket
  14. 00:16:056 (3,4) - ^
  15. 00:27:056 (1,2) - ^
  16. 00:28:389 (1,2) - Collides
  17. 00:32:056 (7,1) - Fix blanket
  18. 00:33:473 (3,4) - Sounds more like a stream imo
  19. 00:34:223 (6,1) - Collides and fix blanket
  20. 00:37:973 (1,2) - Really weird, why not a stream instead?
  21. 00:39:056 (7,9) - Collides and fix blanket
  22. 00:44:139 (6) - Why not a stream instead?
  23. 00:47:389 (4,1) - Fix blanket
  24. 00:51:223 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Try to add a little shape everytime for better flow
  25. 00:59:556 (5,6) - Fix blanket
  26. 01:02:889 (7,8) - ^
  27. 01:03:723 (1,2) - ^
  28. 01:13:056 (2,3) - ^
That's it!
Good luck! ;)

Thank you :) :)
3312
fuk u i just went online
[normal+]
AIMOD pls fix
00:09:222 (2,3) - blanket fix pls
00:10:389 (5,6) - ^
00:13:389 (4,1) - ^
00:36:889 (5,6,7) - please fix,distance from 00:37:222 (6) - to 00:37:555 (7) - looks weird
00:46:055 (1,2,3,4) - messy placement ?? (1) and (2)
00:48:055 (6,1) - fix blanket
00:54:722 (5,1) - ^
01:03:055 (3,4) - ^
01:13:055 (1,2) - if you cant blanket this (which will count as "out of editor range" if you try to blanket (2)) you should try to make another pattern

[neko]
00:45:389 (3,1) - move to x:219 y:0 (or where is the sliderend pointing) (or you can change where the sliderend point to)
01:03:639 (5) - unreadable 1/4 slider

[candy]
00:01:389 (6,2) - sliders both overlap,which will end up looking weird when played
00:06:556 (4,5,6) - weird triplet shape
00:08:389 (1) - uhh..... fix slider pls,(hint:press ctrl to add a slider point(dot thingy)/red slider point (red dot thingy))
00:13:389 (1,2,3,4,5) - weird stream shape
00:31:056 (1,2,3,4,5) - weird star shape (hint: ctrl+shift+d to make diagonal circles (change the beat snap divisor to 1/2 first before using),and ctrl+g to swap 2 notes/swap slider start point & sliderend)
00:44:056 (2,3,4,5,6) - weird stream shape
00:54:223 (3) - ctrl+g
00:58:889 (5,6,7,8) - weird diamond shape
01:09:723 (1,2) - (1) slider is not symmetrical/same shaped as slider (2)
Topic Starter
Puchiko
Thx you for modding my map :) :)

3312 wrote:

fuk u i just went online Sorry :o
[normal+]
AIMOD pls fix :?
00:09:222 (2,3) - blanket fix pls Fixed
00:10:389 (5,6) - ^Fixed
00:13:389 (4,1) - ^Fixed
00:36:889 (5,6,7) - please fix,distance from 00:37:222 (6) - to 00:37:555 (7) - looks weirdFixed
00:46:055 (1,2,3,4) - messy placement ?? (1) and (2)I will increase that distance
00:48:055 (6,1) - fix blanketFixed
00:54:722 (5,1) - ^Fixed
01:03:055 (3,4) - ^Fixed
01:13:055 (1,2) - if you cant blanket this (which will count as "out of editor range" if you try to blanket (2)) you should try to make another patternFixed

[neko]
00:45:389 (3,1) - move to x:219 y:0 (or where is the sliderend pointing) (or you can change where the sliderend point to) i will ask him to it
01:03:639 (5) - unreadable 1/4 slider i will ask him to edit it

[candy]
00:01:389 (6,2) - sliders both overlap,which will end up looking weird when playedi guess its not overlap
00:06:556 (4,5,6) - weird triplet shapei will try to make better shape
00:08:389 (1) - uhh..... fix slider pls,(hint:press ctrl to add a slider point(dot thingy)/red slider point (red dot thingy)) Fixed
00:13:389 (1,2,3,4,5) - weird stream shape i guess its ok
00:31:056 (1,2,3,4,5) - weird star shape (hint: ctrl+shift+d to make diagonal circles (change the beat snap divisor to 1/2 first before using),and ctrl+g to swap 2 notes/swap slider start point & sliderend)Fixed
00:44:056 (2,3,4,5,6) - weird stream shapei will try to make better shape
00:54:223 (3) - ctrl+g nope
00:58:889 (5,6,7,8) - weird diamond shape Fixed
01:09:723 (1,2) - (1) slider is not symmetrical/same shaped as slider (2)Fixed
Cryptic
From #modreqs - Theres a lot of issues here, so bear with me - I'll be focusing on TIMING ONLY (no note placements).

[Candy]
  1. 00:01:223 (4,5,6) - This little triplet you have here is actually 1/6th notes, so it should look this this.
  2. 00:01:389 (6) - You're hiding a note inside this slider, I recommend making it playable.
  3. 00:03:556 (2,3,4) - 1/6ths again.
  4. 00:04:889 (7) - This slider makes no sense rhythmically. Make it one long slider rather than have the repeat in the center.
  5. 00:06:556 (4,5,6) - More 1/6ths
  6. 00:06:723 (6) - Hiding a note in the slider again.
  7. 00:08:389 (1,2,3) - Theres actually 1/6ths coming off of this slider, so rather than being two 1/4ths as you have now, it should be 3 1/6ths.
  8. 00:09:389 (5,6) - Theres a 1/4th note between these two sliders.
  9. 00:10:556 (1) - Theres not really a sound to map at the beginning of this slider, and you're hiding a very noticeable note in the center of it (a 1/4th).
  10. 00:12:056 (7) - Theres a really strong drum beat starting near the end of this slider, I recommend mapping it.
  11. 00:18:389 (1) - Hiding a note in the slider again.
  12. 00:18:889 (3,4) - Theres a 1/4th drum beat between these two notes you should map, since you did it in an earlier section.
  13. 00:19:056 (4) - Note in the slider :c
  14. 00:19:556 (6,7) - Another 1/4th between these two.
  15. 00:21:056 (12) - More drums inside your slider
  16. 00:21:056 (12,1) - Drums between these two sliders. (Not the entire way between, but it starts on the red tick)

    Theres much more to pick out here, but I think that'll give you a good start for working through this map. Feel free to call me back after you've gotten some more mods and fixed the timing errors. (Just to clarify, this is not a complete mod, I just did enough so you know what to look and listen for to fix it and learn some of it yourself.)
Lumin
NM from my queue

I'm bad at modding >3 star diffs so I'll mod Neko and Candy

Neko
00:00:056 (1,2) - Little space between these two
00:02:223 (2) - I only hear sound on red and white
00:09:056 (4,5) - I don't like this overlap
00:12:389 (1,3,5) - Little space between these
00:13:389 (2,1,2) - Way too much spacing
00:14:056 (2,1,2) - same
00:18:556 (1,2,1,2) - ^
00:19:389 (2) - Hides too much under 00:18:723 (2) -
00:32:889 (2,1) - Overlap
00:33:723 (1,2,3) - Blanket 1 around 2 and 3
00:38:723 (3) - ctrl+g
00:39:556 (2,3) - delete 3 and move 2 two spikes forward
00:43:056 (1) - kiai time here
00:44:889 (2) - No slider, just circle at white spike
00:45:389 (3) - no sound??? +ugly overlap wit slider
00:49:389 (3) - ctrl+g
00:50:223 (2,3) - same as 00:39:556 (2,3) -
00:53:389 (1,2) - blanket better
00:53:723 (2,1) - too much spacing
00:55:556 (1) - I'd do this like this
01:00:889 (1) - ^
01:03:639 (5,6) - Huge spacing
01:08:389 (4) - Ugly, remake (suggest: ctrl and click twice between those middle anchors)
01:08:389 (4,1) - Overlap
01:12:389 (1,2) - More space between these

Candy
Smae thing about kiai's
00:01:389 (6,2) - Overlap
00:02:556 (4,1) - stack to sliderend
00:04:889 (7,8) - Huge sudden space
00:07:223 (7) - NC
00:12:056 (7) - NC
00:14:056 (7) - NC
00:16:056 (3,4,5) - Huge sudden spacing
00:19:723 (7) - NC
00:31:056 (3) - NC
00:37:723 (6) - NC
00:41:723 (5) - NC
00:51:223 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Remap please, make it look and playability more clever
00:59:389 (8,1) - Stack properly

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Puchiko
Thank you for your timing checking :) :)
CrypticMech

CrypticMech wrote:

From #modreqs - Theres a lot of issues here, so bear with me - I'll be focusing on TIMING ONLY (no note placements).

[Candy]
  1. 00:01:223 (4,5,6) - This little triplet you have here is actually 1/6th notes, so it should look this this. in 1st time i try map it. i try 1/6 as u said. but 1/6 of 180 is 270 seriuously its really hard to stream it !!!
  2. 00:01:389 (6) - You're hiding a note inside this slider, I recommend making it playable. Fixed
  3. 00:03:556 (2,3,4) - 1/6ths again.
  4. 00:04:889 (7) - This slider makes no sense rhythmically. Make it one long slider rather than have the repeat in the center.i will keep this rhytm
  5. 00:06:556 (4,5,6) - More 1/6ths.
  6. 00:06:723 (6) - Hiding a note in the slider again. nah
  7. 00:08:389 (1,2,3) - Theres actually 1/6ths coming off of this slider, so rather than being two 1/4ths as you have now, it should be 3 1/6ths.
  8. 00:09:389 (5,6) - Theres a 1/4th note between these two sliders.i guess 1/2 is more suitable
  9. 00:10:556 (1) - Theres not really a sound to map at the beginning of this slider, and you're hiding a very noticeable note in the center of it (a 1/4th). Fixed
  10. 00:12:056 (7) - Theres a really strong drum beat starting near the end of this slider, I recommend mapping it. nah
  11. 00:18:389 (1) - Hiding a note in the slider again. i like this rhytm
  12. 00:18:889 (3,4) - Theres a 1/4th drum beat between these two notes you should map, since you did it in an earlier section.
  13. 00:19:056 (4) - Note in the slider :c nah
  14. 00:19:556 (6,7) - Another 1/4th between these two. nah
  15. 00:21:056 (12) - More drums inside your sliderFixed
  16. 00:21:056 (12,1) - Drums between these two sliders. (Not the entire way between, but it starts on the red tick) nah

    Theres much more to pick out here, but I think that'll give you a good start for working through this map. Feel free to call me back after you've gotten some more mods and fixed the timing errors. (Just to clarify, this is not a complete mod, I just did enough so you know what to look and listen for to fix it and learn some of it yourself.)
i already tried 1/6 but its too hard for 4 stars even i like it...
Topic Starter
Puchiko
Thank you for your mod :) :)

Lumin wrote:

NM from my queue

I'm bad at modding >3 star diffs so I'll mod Neko and Candy i will leave the Neko diff to omegawpn

Neko
00:00:056 (1,2) - Little space between these two
00:02:223 (2) - I only hear sound on red and white
00:09:056 (4,5) - I don't like this overlap
00:12:389 (1,3,5) - Little space between these
00:13:389 (2,1,2) - Way too much spacing
00:14:056 (2,1,2) - same
00:18:556 (1,2,1,2) - ^
00:19:389 (2) - Hides too much under 00:18:723 (2) -
00:32:889 (2,1) - Overlap
00:33:723 (1,2,3) - Blanket 1 around 2 and 3
00:38:723 (3) - ctrl+g
00:39:556 (2,3) - delete 3 and move 2 two spikes forward
00:43:056 (1) - kiai time here
00:44:889 (2) - No slider, just circle at white spike
00:45:389 (3) - no sound??? +ugly overlap wit slider
00:49:389 (3) - ctrl+g
00:50:223 (2,3) - same as 00:39:556 (2,3) -
00:53:389 (1,2) - blanket better
00:53:723 (2,1) - too much spacing
00:55:556 (1) - I'd do this like this
01:00:889 (1) - ^
01:03:639 (5,6) - Huge spacing
01:08:389 (4) - Ugly, remake (suggest: ctrl and click twice between those middle anchors)
01:08:389 (4,1) - Overlap
01:12:389 (1,2) - More space between these

Candy
Smae thing about kiai's no thx
00:01:389 (6,2) - Overlap i guess its fixed in last mod
00:02:556 (4,1) - stack to sliderend i guess its fixed in last mod
00:04:889 (7,8) - Huge sudden space Fixed
00:07:223 (7) - NC i guess its fixed in last mod
00:12:056 (7) - NC Fixed
00:14:056 (7) - NC Fixed
00:16:056 (3,4,5) - Huge sudden spacing CTRL + G it
00:19:723 (7) - NC Fixed
00:31:056 (3) - NC Fixed
00:37:723 (6) - NC nah
00:41:723 (5) - NC nah
00:51:223 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Remap please, make it look and playability more clever sorry i like this pattern and its playable
00:59:389 (8,1) - Stack properly i guess its already properly

Good luck!
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