23:06 Arphimigon: allo
23:06 Asonate: ello
23:06 Arphimigon: CHECK 4 CHECK
23:06 Arphimigon: COMMENCE
23:07 Asonate: WITH THE POWER OF
23:07 Asonate: um
23:07 Asonate: uhm
23:07 Asonate: SAILOR MOON
23:07 Asonate: kill me
23:07 Arphimigon: ye
23:07 Arphimigon: die
23:07 Asonate: ok
23:07 Asonate: gib mappu
23:08 *Arphimigon is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/756253 sHimaU - SlotcorE is dead]
23:08 Asonate: oh dam
23:08 Asonate: which diff
23:08 Arphimigon: theres
23:08 Arphimigon: only 1 diff rn
23:08 Arphimigon: im remapping the entire set
23:08 Arphimigon: so ya
23:08 Asonate: o
23:08 Arphimigon: also Irre is gonna finish his GD
23:08 Arphimigon: happy is gonna make a gd
23:08 Arphimigon: im gonna get some others to
23:08 Arphimigon: make gds
23:09 Arphimigon: we are gonna go FULL HAM ON THIS
23:09 Asonate: oh dam
23:09 Asonate: rip fingers
23:09 Asonate: want an ASS map
23:09 Arphimigon: i think its
23:09 Asonate: lol
23:09 Arphimigon: 75% done
23:09 Arphimigon: with hardest diff
23:09 Asonate: YOU NEED THAT ASS DIFF
23:09 Arphimigon: ye u can gd
23:09 Arphimigon: ofc
23:10 Arphimigon: but yknow how easily i reject gds
23:10 Asonate: i know
23:10 Asonate: lets base it on what you think of my WIP thing xD
23:10 *Asonate is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/897676 Taishi - invulnerable]
23:10 Arphimigon: its b-
23:10 Asonate: but first ill do yours
23:10 Arphimigon: brilliant!
23:10 Arphimigon: NO
23:10 Arphimigon: I GO FIRST
23:10 Asonate: lets
23:11 Asonate: roll
23:11 Asonate: !roll
23:11 Asonate: fuck
23:11 Arphimigon: !roll
23:11 Asonate: you
23:11 Arphimigon: LOL
23:11 Asonate: bancho
23:11 Asonate: bot
23:11 Asonate: in modhelp then
23:11 Arphimigon: sure
23:11 Asonate: alright
23:11 Arphimigon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4483566
23:11 Asonate: what did you get :^)
23:13 Asonate: http://aso.s-ul.eu/PZ8SF07J
23:13 Asonate: alright
23:13 Asonate: i win
23:13 Arphimigon: shit
23:13 Arphimigon: ok
23:14 *Asonate is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/756253 sHimaU - SlotcorE is dead [Necrophobia]]
23:14 Asonate: 00:08:502 -
23:14 Arphimigon: remember dis is just a ch e c k
23:14 Asonate: why you skip
23:15 Arphimigon: good point
23:15 Arphimigon: i think i do that a bit
23:15 Asonate: 00:11:280 - yeah you do
23:15 Asonate: atleast make the slider longer
23:15 Arphimigon: i think it was to emphasise
23:15 Asonate: 00:11:836 -
23:15 Asonate: again
23:15 Arphimigon: the 00:08:558 (9) -
23:16 Asonate: 00:12:058 - again
23:16 Arphimigon: are you listening in
23:16 Arphimigon: 25% or smth
23:16 Asonate: i could imagine why you did it
23:16 Asonate: kickslider boiz
23:16 Asonate: ye
23:16 Arphimigon: ye i map in 100%
23:16 Asonate: after it sounded weird in normal
23:16 Arphimigon: so i only get whats really obvious
23:16 Arphimigon: for yknow, simplicity ya
23:17 Asonate: gg
23:17 Arphimigon: but ill think about
23:17 Arphimigon: kicksliders
23:17 Asonate: 00:28:002 (5) - id place that where 00:28:113 (6) - is
23:17 Asonate: like, switch them out
23:17 Arphimigon: whhh
23:17 Asonate: but keep direction
23:17 Asonate: and you get sick circular flow
23:17 Arphimigon: swap them?
23:17 Asonate: screen inc
23:18 Arphimigon: thatd be so
23:18 Arphimigon: spacing
23:18 Arphimigon: y
23:18 Arphimigon: hm
23:18 Arphimigon: ok did smth
23:18 Arphimigon: better hope it works
23:18 Asonate: http://aso.s-ul.eu/ttIBa9Fz
23:18 Asonate: smth like this
23:19 Arphimigon: ya thats
23:19 Arphimigon: exactly wat i did
23:19 Asonate: but what you had was really akward 5->6
23:19 Asonate: that doesnt
23:19 Asonate: play to nicely imo
23:19 Arphimigon: meh i expected leniency abuse xd but changed
23:19 Asonate: since you kinda have to dropoff
23:19 Asonate: then again, 270 1/4 sliders
23:20 Arphimigon: no one is gonna follow those LOL
23:20 Arphimigon: but changed
23:20 Arphimigon: cus ya
23:20 Asonate: gotta map for those HT scrubs :^)
23:20 Arphimigon: lol
23:21 Asonate: 00:48:097 (7,8) - ctrl + g pls
23:21 Asonate: that low distance from 6 to 7 is gonna make people hate you
23:21 Arphimigon: i like it how it is tbh
23:21 Arphimigon: its actually been the opposite when ppl playtested
23:22 Asonate: lol
23:22 Arphimigon: because of
23:22 Arphimigon: 00:48:097 (7,8) -
23:22 Asonate: would still group 5 and 6
23:22 Arphimigon: it kinda flows there a little
23:22 Asonate: instead of 6 and 7
23:22 Arphimigon: i mean
23:22 Arphimigon: 00:47:764 (4,5,6,7) -
23:22 Asonate: when you grouped 1/2 and 3/4 before
23:22 Arphimigon: ya i know what u mean
23:22 Arphimigon: itd be hard to emphasise
23:22 Arphimigon: 00:48:208 (8) - dis sound doe
23:22 Asonate: and always higher ds
23:23 Asonate: well, just space 6 and 7 more
23:23 Asonate: done
23:23 Arphimigon: rip pattern
23:23 Arphimigon: did smth
23:23 Arphimigon: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4483659
23:23 Arphimigon: SPACING
23:23 Arphimigon: ill fix the spacing being high later
23:23 Arphimigon: but ya
23:24 Arphimigon: actually that spacing works w/e
23:24 Asonate: 01:32:319 (1) -
23:24 Asonate: would rather move that somewhere like
23:24 Asonate: x 480|76 y
23:24 Asonate: if you see what i mean
23:25 Asonate: to get the same DS 1 to 3
23:25 Asonate: and 2 to 4 are
23:25 Arphimigon: i see why
23:25 Arphimigon: but
23:25 Arphimigon: ur following the 1/8 sliders
23:25 Arphimigon: and it feels rotational
23:25 Asonate: yes
23:25 Arphimigon: if you dont (cus no one is gonna follow those)
23:25 Asonate: why suddenly
23:25 Arphimigon: the other place seems more natural
23:25 Asonate: the thing
23:26 Asonate: is more that 1 is so much more closer to 4 that 4 to 3
23:26 Arphimigon: there IS less emphasis
23:26 Asonate: nothing really to do with rotational, thats more for asthethics
23:26 Arphimigon: and it isnt too much lower
23:26 Asonate: there are no kawaii animu voices
23:26 Asonate: the drums are stronger
23:26 Asonate: i think
23:26 Asonate: it had that kettle or something
23:26 Arphimigon: hm imo the animu voices are much stronger
23:27 Arphimigon: high pitch, more electro, rest of the music pretty much halts for it
23:27 Arphimigon: eh
23:27 Arphimigon: lemme c smth
23:27 Arphimigon: meh changed
23:27 Arphimigon: 400|64
23:28 Asonate: sick
23:28 Asonate: end is
23:28 Asonate: overkill
23:28 Asonate: nothing to say
23:28 Asonate: just overkill
23:28 Asonate: fits the song
23:28 Arphimigon: LOL
23:28 Asonate: but still
23:28 Asonate: who in the world should be able to FC lol
23:29 Asonate: this reminds me of my havox
23:29 Arphimigon: not many rly
23:29 Arphimigon: lots of ppl fail HT
23:29 Arphimigon: AND its hp4
23:29 Asonate: that was intended as jokemap
23:29 Arphimigon: imma increase to 6 later
23:29 Asonate: and i took down
23:29 Asonate: 13 stars
23:29 Asonate: CS 7
23:29 Arphimigon: lolcs7
23:29 Asonate: spaced streams galore
23:29 Asonate: kynan was like
23:29 Asonate: oh its are 9.6, need HR on this
23:29 Asonate: he hates me i think
23:29 Arphimigon: LOL
23:30 Arphimigon: aight lets do UR MAP
23:30 Asonate: oh rip inc
23:31 Arphimigon: 00:03:921 - why spinner end
23:31 Arphimigon: why
23:31 Arphimigon: WHY ASONATE
23:31 *Arphimigon cries
23:31 Asonate: where would it end
23:31 Arphimigon: make it end earlier and silence the end
23:31 Asonate: if not on a beat
23:31 Arphimigon: 00:03:492 - id end it there
23:31 Arphimigon: and 5% the end
23:31 Asonate: like, theres only pads before
23:31 Arphimigon: or
23:32 Asonate: oki
23:32 Arphimigon: 00:03:706 - theres a small sound there
23:32 Arphimigon: abuse that with 5% ez
23:32 Arphimigon: its just rly annoying if the first sound isnt hittable AND theres a finish yknow ya
23:32 Asonate: actually
23:32 Asonate: that sounds sick with finish on
23:32 Asonate: and i cant silence cuz timing starts after it
23:33 Asonate: or is there a way too
23:33 Asonate: ok
23:33 Arphimigon: that was gonna be my second thing
23:33 Arphimigon: start the timing earlier
23:33 Asonate: im stupid, adding new timing sec
23:33 Arphimigon: start at 492
23:33 Asonate: yeah
23:33 Asonate: does that mean i actually
23:33 Asonate: timed something properly
23:33 Asonate: \O/
23:33 Arphimigon: idk it sounds
23:33 Arphimigon: off still
23:33 Arphimigon: ...
23:34 Arphimigon: LEMME LISTEN
23:34 Asonate: damn
23:34 Asonate: it
23:34 Arphimigon: yup
23:34 Arphimigon: its late
23:34 Arphimigon: im SURE OF IT
23:34 Asonate: FUCKJ
23:34 Arphimigon: atleast 10ms
23:34 Asonate: FUCKKCKSAFDS
23:34 Arphimigon: LOL
23:34 Arphimigon: ok brbing 3 mins
23:34 Asonate: how did i get afds
23:34 Asonate: and not asdf
23:34 Asonate: oki
23:35 Asonate: gonna get me a drink
23:37 Arphimigon: ok
23:37 Asonate: back
23:38 Arphimigon: so ye
23:38 Arphimigon: 00:06:480 (1,2,1) - why put the clap on the shorter spacing of these thingies
23:39 Arphimigon: i'd just leave 2 in the middle of them
23:39 Asonate: btw, please tell me hitsounds
23:39 Asonate: suck or nah
23:39 Arphimigon: they suck
23:39 Asonate: cuz constant hitsounding is really weird
23:39 Asonate: as well
23:39 Asonate: yeah thought so
23:39 Asonate: gib help plz
23:39 Arphimigon: latr
23:39 Asonate: btw, whats proper offset?
23:40 Arphimigon: around 480
23:40 Arphimigon: id say 478
23:40 Asonate: alright, doing that then
23:40 Asonate: alright, deleting all hitsounds
23:41 Arphimigon: 00:08:407 (4,5,6,7) - this slowdown is ok for 456 but it'd be nice to make 7 be spaced again
23:41 Arphimigon: higher pitch and downbeat ya
23:42 Asonate: proper 1.00 DS?
23:42 Arphimigon: ye
23:42 Arphimigon: like the other notes at 00:07:978 (2,3) -
23:43 Asonate: alright, done
23:43 Arphimigon: also the average DS is about 1.05, not 1
23:43 Arphimigon: so
23:43 Asonate: lol
23:43 Arphimigon: 00:10:764 (1,2) - it makes these seem close
23:43 Arphimigon: xd
23:43 Arphimigon: just nudge the triplet up a biiiiiiiit
23:44 Asonate: ye
23:44 Asonate: done
23:44 Arphimigon: wait
23:44 Arphimigon: im i allowed to go nazi
23:45 Arphimigon: or just general stuff quickie
23:45 Asonate: i fixed it already
23:45 Asonate: atleast the super shitty stack of 1
23:45 Arphimigon: aight well
23:45 Asonate: if you mean that :^)
23:45 Asonate: but yeah, you can nazi
23:45 Arphimigon: 00:10:549 (3,1) - its just me probably but id think this play neater if the red anchor was more to the left
23:45 Asonate: i actually encourage you
23:45 Arphimigon: because itd play nicer into the curve
23:46 Asonate: like straight down?
23:46 Arphimigon: more left
23:46 Arphimigon: not right
23:46 Asonate: ah ye
23:46 Asonate: im
23:46 Asonate: stuuuupid
23:46 Asonate: i even added an additional point before the red one
23:47 Arphimigon: eh id have made an additional point a white
23:47 Arphimigon: too much edginess doesnt fit here
23:47 Arphimigon: but ok
23:47 Arphimigon: 00:12:049 (1,2,3,4,5) - im not sure how id change this but you know what im thinking
23:48 Asonate: i kinda dislike how 1 turns so sharply
23:48 Arphimigon: which slider
23:48 Arphimigon: xd
23:48 Asonate: but then again, i like having sliders keep the flow when you enter it
23:48 Arphimigon: 00:12:049 (1) - this?
23:48 Asonate: 00:10:764 (1) -
23:48 Asonate: this
23:48 Arphimigon: ah
23:49 Arphimigon: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4483829 *bop*
23:49 Arphimigon: ]
23:49 Arphimigon: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4483829 *bop*]
23:49 Asonate: yeah
23:49 Asonate: thats pretty much what i did
23:50 Arphimigon: make sure to fix triplet spacing again after
23:50 Arphimigon: xd
23:50 Asonate: i did
23:50 Asonate: i remade that
23:50 Arphimigon: noice
23:51 Asonate: im slowly getting better at selfmodding :3
23:51 Arphimigon: yay
23:51 Arphimigon: WELL
23:51 Arphimigon: LETS CONTINUE!
23:51 Arphimigon: 00:12:478 - die
23:51 Asonate: YAY
23:51 Asonate: lol
23:51 *Arphimigon gets ion beam
23:51 Asonate: well
23:51 Asonate: you see
23:51 Asonate: sometime ago
23:51 Asonate: i got rekt
23:51 Asonate: because a slider like that was 3/4
23:52 Arphimigon: ik why its a hold but
23:52 Arphimigon: just make it
23:52 Arphimigon: 1/2
23:52 Asonate: because it makes you start the stream on your other finger
23:52 Asonate: nooooooo
23:52 Asonate: cant
23:52 Asonate: do
23:52 Asonate: that
23:52 Arphimigon: JUST LEARN TO MAP NON HOLDS LL
23:52 Arphimigon: LOL
23:52 Arphimigon: ok
23:52 Asonate: i cant
23:52 Asonate: holds are life
23:52 Arphimigon: well
23:52 Arphimigon: its either the ass 1/1
23:53 Arphimigon: the ass 3/4
23:53 Arphimigon: or the more playable 1/2
23:53 Arphimigon: ur choice LOL
23:53 Asonate: then again, if there is a strong note on the end
23:53 Asonate: i go with 3/4 or 1/2
23:53 Asonate: so atleast im not killing strong stuff
23:53 Asonate: inb4 you find my cellar filled with corpses of strong beats
23:54 Arphimigon: 1/2 ye like i said
23:55 Asonate: but
23:55 Asonate: we gotta
23:55 Asonate: admit
23:55 Asonate: that with 140 bpm you can EZ single 3/4 sliders
23:55 Arphimigon: is this designed for
23:55 Arphimigon: pros
23:55 Arphimigon: or midtier
23:56 Asonate: well
23:56 Asonate: 02:27:906 -
23:56 Asonate: ask again
23:56 Asonate: pros
23:57 Arphimigon: actually
23:57 Arphimigon: 00:12:478 - to 00:12:906 - overmapping so hard
23:57 Arphimigon: thats just
23:57 Arphimigon: 1/2
23:57 Arphimigon: actually
23:57 Arphimigon: all ur 1/4 is ov-
23:57 Asonate: it is 1/4
23:57 Arphimigon: *shot*
23:57 Asonate: sound
23:58 Asonate: there are 1/4 echoes
23:58 Asonate: and i can and will map that
23:58 Arphimigon: oh
23:58 Arphimigon: THATS
23:58 Arphimigon: SO
23:58 Arphimigon: INAUDIBLE LOL
23:58 Arphimigon: aight
23:58 Asonate: it isnt
23:58 Asonate: its just as audible as the 1/2 sounds here
23:58 Arphimigon: the 1/2 is more audible
23:58 Arphimigon: but now i heard the 1/4
23:59 Arphimigon: its un-unhearable
23:59 Arphimigon: lucky you
23:59 Asonate: <- listening pro
23:59 Asonate: actually no
23:59 Arphimigon: thats what all overmappers do!
23:59 Asonate: but i check pretty much everything with 1/4
23:59 Asonate: .25 speed
23:59 Asonate: i meant
23:59 Arphimigon: gah 25% speed is the killer of simplicity haha
00:00 Asonate: oh arphi
00:00 Arphimigon: ass map vs arphimimap
00:00 Asonate: remember finsternis
00:00 Arphimigon: 25% vs 100%
00:00 Arphimigon: ye i do
00:00 Asonate: we should collab
00:00 Asonate: like start you
00:00 Asonate: end me
00:00 Asonate: peoplez gonna hate
00:00 Asonate: lol
00:00 Arphimigon: LOL
00:00 Asonate: finsternis is overmapped
00:00 Arphimigon: i can map jumpz like s1ck pls screw stremz
00:00 Asonate: finsternis is straight up overmapped 1/4 270 bpm deathstreams
00:00 Asonate: i cant map jumps
00:01 Arphimigon: 00:19:121 (7,1) - "blah blah blah spacing"
00:01 Asonate: well
00:01 Asonate: is this gonna be an issue
00:01 Asonate: cuz i see tons of stacked singles
00:01 Arphimigon: it annoys me lol
00:01 Asonate: *randomly stacked singles
00:01 Arphimigon: rankable
00:01 Arphimigon: but meh
00:01 Asonate: on ranked maps
00:02 Arphimigon: YES BUT
00:02 Asonate: even furioso has these
00:02 Arphimigon: WE ARE TRYING TO BE BETTER!
00:02 Asonate: main reason for that stack is
00:02 Arphimigon: than those pssshhhh rankd maps
00:02 Asonate: that 1 is NC
00:02 Asonate: and i dont have any space lol
00:02 Arphimigon: welp
00:02 Arphimigon: keep if you so must
00:02 Asonate: just in theory
00:02 Arphimigon: but ill be watching :^)
00:02 Asonate: x 340|268 y
00:03 Asonate: is that worse?
00:03 Asonate: it overlaps
00:03 Asonate: thats my issue with that
00:03 Arphimigon: why not just do the simple
00:04 Arphimigon: 00:19:335 (1) - at 322 337
00:04 Asonate: because that fucks up everything after
00:04 Arphimigon: you can find a fix :^)
00:05 Asonate: OK
00:07 Asonate: did something
00:07 Arphimigon: 00:21:799 - i'd remove this as it removes emphasis from the last 3 notes before
00:07 Arphimigon: remove and listen yayaay
00:08 Asonate: oki
00:08 Arphimigon: 00:23:192 (2,3,4) - LOL
00:08 Asonate: that means i gotta change every single one of these tho
00:08 Asonate: right?
00:08 Arphimigon: pretty muc
00:08 Arphimigon: rip
00:08 Asonate: thats sick tho
00:08 Arphimigon: if u do that
00:08 Arphimigon: fix the overlappin
00:09 Arphimigon: its not very nice to look at
00:09 Asonate: it
00:09 Asonate: fuck
00:09 Asonate: but i kinda want it stacked
00:09 Arphimigon: ye
00:09 Arphimigon: do that
00:09 Arphimigon: right now its
00:09 Arphimigon: -almost- stackd
00:09 Asonate: so basically, stack it more
00:09 Arphimigon: ye
00:09 Arphimigon: direct stack
00:09 Asonate: yeah, i want it customstacked like that
00:09 Arphimigon: or less stacked
00:10 Asonate: ok, less it is
00:10 Arphimigon: cus rn its in the range where its weird to look at, not stacked or not far enuf
00:10 Arphimigon: yknow
00:10 Asonate: thought so
00:11 Arphimigon: 00:33:264 (4,5,6,7) - dis weird rhythm here
00:12 Asonate: plays like singletaps, but yeah, wasnt sure about that one
00:12 Asonate: since thats kinda hard to read
00:12 Arphimigon: if anything
00:12 Arphimigon: also make 00:33:264 (4,5,6,7) - a slider
00:12 Arphimigon: or smth
00:12 Asonate: you mean
00:12 Asonate: just 4 and 5
00:12 Asonate: right
00:12 Arphimigon: rn its weird just havin 6 as a slider byitself
00:12 Arphimigon: i meant 5
00:12 Arphimigon: but 4 also helps
00:13 Asonate: basically 4 a 1/2 slider
00:13 Arphimigon: wat
00:13 Arphimigon: 1/2?
00:14 Arphimigon: http://puu.sh/mYwgY/a0108ac646.jpg imo dis
00:15 Asonate: ooo
00:15 Asonate: i see
00:16 Arphimigon: 00:36:478 (3) - 3/4 slider, thers a sound at 00:36:799 -
00:16 Arphimigon: xd
00:16 Arphimigon: or smth
00:19 Asonate: did stuff
00:19 Asonate: much better imo
00:19 Arphimigon: COOL
00:19 Arphimigon: CHECK DONE

02:11 Littleboy40: i'll explain real quick how I view maps:
02:11 Littleboy40: 1. I play them
02:12 Asonate: almost nobody is able to stream 155 bpm nowadays
02:12 Littleboy40: 2. when creator is spec-ing, I put HT and snow some fauls
02:12 Littleboy40: 3. i go to editor and help a bit
02:12 Asonate: :3
02:12 Asonate: sounds good
02:13 Asonate: that triple
02:13 Asonate: that you sliderbroke on
02:13 Asonate: was a quadstream at first
02:13 Littleboy40: 1. step done
02:13 Asonate: another mapper suggested making it a triple
02:13 Asonate: in case you wonder
02:13 Littleboy40: ah, ok
02:13 Littleboy40: it doesn't flow well
02:14 Littleboy40: that you have to stop for these 3 circles
02:14 Asonate: the slowdown?
02:14 Littleboy40: yes
02:14 Asonate: well, the sounds get weaker tho
02:14 Asonate: might make that a 1/2 slider
02:14 Littleboy40: either you slow with a flow, or you just leave it
02:14 Littleboy40: because a full stop
02:14 Littleboy40: is too much
02:14 Littleboy40: I like the idea of backing up
02:14 Littleboy40: but not that much
02:14 Asonate: well, originally everything here was stacked
02:15 Asonate: the slider is further away because of said mapper
02:15 Littleboy40: are you doing kinda collab?
02:15 Asonate: that got me to change the quadstream
02:15 Asonate: not on this
02:15 Asonate: but i do collab from time to time
02:15 Littleboy40: ok
02:16 Littleboy40: this quadriple looks a bit quirky
02:16 Littleboy40: kinda wonky
02:16 Littleboy40: i noticed that with some short streams on this map
02:16 Littleboy40: it is hard to pull of a wonky stream
02:16 Asonate: hm
02:16 Littleboy40: i've seen some ppl succeed
02:16 Asonate: thats a tough one
02:17 Littleboy40: but i suggest to stay away from that
02:17 Asonate: thing is, these streams are pretty much customstacked
02:17 Littleboy40: you could do a patterned stream
02:17 Asonate: they arent supposed to be proper "streams"
02:17 Asonate: more like stacks
02:17 Littleboy40: then make it look like a stack tho
02:17 Asonate: for the spacign
02:17 Littleboy40: and not like something of the stack is out of place
02:18 Asonate: this should look like a stack tho
02:18 Littleboy40: i'll look at that again in editor
02:18 Asonate: sure
02:18 Littleboy40: really like this part
02:18 Asonate: glad to hear
02:18 Littleboy40: i thing the tight stacks are very well handled
02:19 Littleboy40: same with that one
02:19 Littleboy40: i'll look in editor again
02:19 Littleboy40: this messed me up
02:19 Asonate: wait
02:19 Asonate: that one looks weird
02:19 Asonate: yeah, might either put the note back
02:19 Asonate: or make the last a kickslider
02:19 Littleboy40: or space it just a bit
02:20 Littleboy40: because the player has no chance knowing that there is no circle in that pause between previous circle and next slider
02:20 Asonate: yes
02:20 Asonate: i think ill put it back in
02:20 Littleboy40: just make sure that the player can see what you're trying to do
02:21 Littleboy40: idk why but... nevermind
02:21 Littleboy40: first it looked weird
02:21 Littleboy40: but it's probably me ._.
02:21 Asonate: which one?
02:21 Littleboy40: i'll show you in editor
02:21 Asonate: alright
02:21 Littleboy40: wait...
02:22 Littleboy40: I just heard something on that previous slider
02:22 Littleboy40: you totally ignored a tone
02:22 Asonate: gonna look that up
02:22 Littleboy40: kk
02:22 Littleboy40: same with that stack
02:23 Asonate: yeah, that one was me being experimental
02:23 Littleboy40: 2nd step is very minimalistic
02:23 Littleboy40: 3rd is more detailed
02:23 Asonate: 00:09:049 (7) - if i stack this back under 00:08:835 (6) -
02:23 Asonate: would that be better?
02:24 Littleboy40: yes
02:24 Littleboy40: that looks and sounds better
02:24 Littleboy40: it is kinda like a holding tone
02:24 Asonate: nice
02:24 Littleboy40: hmm...
02:24 Asonate: pretty much changing everything back to how it was before first irc
02:24 Littleboy40: but i'm not that sure
02:25 Littleboy40: 00:09:049 - this tone is higher and more powerful
02:25 Littleboy40: it's not the best idea to end a slider on that
02:25 Littleboy40: 00:08:620 - better put it here
02:25 Littleboy40: then you'd have a strong circle following
02:26 Littleboy40: and a weaker circle under it
02:26 Asonate: nono, i meant not timewise
02:26 Littleboy40: since the tone goes lower after the powerful one
02:26 Asonate: but positionwise stack
02:26 Littleboy40: i know
02:26 Littleboy40: aha...
02:26 Littleboy40: hmm...
02:26 Littleboy40: ok yeah
02:26 Littleboy40: that'd work
02:27 Asonate: alright
02:27 Littleboy40: i thought you meant replacing stuff ._.
02:27 Littleboy40: 00:12:585 - there it is
02:27 Littleboy40: the wonky one
02:27 Asonate: yes
02:28 Littleboy40: ah i see the problem
02:28 Littleboy40: the stack itself is actually not wonky
02:28 Littleboy40: but together with the ending of the slider
02:28 Asonate: hmm, what to do there
02:28 Littleboy40: it is too far away from the end
02:28 Littleboy40: and since the player thinks that the slider end belongs to the stack
02:28 Littleboy40: he will add that together
02:28 Littleboy40: and make it wonky
02:28 Asonate: it should
02:29 Littleboy40: it should be a bit closer
02:29 Asonate: the time spacing is the same
02:29 Asonate: i would make a note on the sliderend, but then you would start the stream with the other finger
02:29 Asonate: since main finger is already used for the then 3/4 slider
02:30 Littleboy40: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4484319 it should kinda look like this
02:30 Littleboy40: or a bit closer
02:30 Littleboy40: i just noticed
02:31 Asonate: alright, got it i think
02:32 Littleboy40: ok
02:32 Littleboy40: 00:13:335 - what about a slider?
02:32 Littleboy40: it seems kinda empty
02:33 Littleboy40: i could see it fitting
02:33 Asonate: yeah, i thought alot about that
02:33 Littleboy40: but the space should be fine too
02:33 Asonate: but, i kinda want to preserve the impact of that kick
02:33 Littleboy40: but you did that on the 2nd kick
02:33 Asonate: and with a slider that would be lost, since you can hold it
02:34 Asonate: which 2nd?
02:34 Asonate: 00:14:192 (1) - this one?
02:34 Littleboy40: 00:14:192-
02:34 Littleboy40: yes
02:34 Littleboy40: it has the same kick to it
02:34 Littleboy40: but the space actually fits
02:34 Littleboy40: I just checked where the circle is positioned at
02:35 Asonate: well, this one is the downbeat
02:35 Asonate: not really good reason, but thats pretty much it
02:35 Littleboy40: it ends the beat quite well
02:35 Asonate:
02:35 Littleboy40: 00.15:692 - the next wonky
02:36 Littleboy40: 00:15:692 - the next wonky
02:36 Asonate: hm
02:36 Littleboy40: 00:14:835 (2,3,4) - I'm not sure about this one
02:36 Littleboy40: it looks fine tho
02:37 Littleboy40: but the 15:692 one looks wonky
02:38 Asonate: did something about it
02:38 Littleboy40: kk
02:38 Littleboy40: 00:21:478 (3,4,5) - the infamous one
02:39 Asonate: fixed that right after going into editor
02:39 Asonate: just added the fourth note back in
02:40 Littleboy40: 00:29:835 (4,5,6) - this is very close together
02:40 Littleboy40: 00:29:406 (1,2,3) - compared to this
02:40 Asonate: yes it is
02:40 Asonate: but i wanted it closer than the one before to give the player a feeling of compressing
02:41 Asonate: and then releasing it again with the kickslider
02:41 Littleboy40: then I'd make the 1,2,3 one less close
02:41 Littleboy40: because 4,5,6 is very close
02:42 Asonate: i could make 4,5,6 further than 1,2,3 tho
02:42 Asonate: might look nice
02:42 Littleboy40: no don't
02:42 Littleboy40: 4,5,6 is more silent than 1,2,3
02:42 Littleboy40: so don't make it more intense
02:42 Littleboy40: just make it less intense than 1,2,3
02:42 Littleboy40: can you hear it?
02:42 Asonate: sadly i can only get .11 ds or .22 ds
02:43 Asonate: yes i did
02:43 Asonate: thats why they were different
02:43 Asonate: .11 is what i got now
02:43 Littleboy40: ok
02:44 Littleboy40: 00:30:263 (7,8,9) - 3 very bland sliders
02:44 Asonate: yes
02:45 Littleboy40: maybe make them more dynamic
02:45 Littleboy40: not just a horizontal line of sliders
02:46 Littleboy40: should we move on?
02:46 Asonate: made them a bit more individual
02:46 Littleboy40: kk
02:46 Asonate: mainly graphical tho, the flow stays the same as i have it now
02:46 Littleboy40: yeah yeah
02:47 Littleboy40: maybe use mor NC xD
02:47 Littleboy40: 00:35:620 (15) - that 15th circle
02:47 Asonate: yeah, NC placement is hard in generall for the start, since the drums and stuff are kinda inconsistant
02:47 Littleboy40: ok but don't let anything go over 12
02:48 Littleboy40: or even 10 maybe
02:48 Littleboy40: but if you keep everything under 12, you should be fine
02:48 Asonate: ok, yeah
02:48 Asonate: straight up missed this one
02:48 Littleboy40: that part is good
02:49 Littleboy40: 00:36:478 (3,4) - that's some sliders you got there
02:49 Littleboy40: they overlap too much
02:49 Littleboy40: over 75% of 4 is covered
02:49 Littleboy40: that's my rule of thumb, to not cover more than 75%
02:49 Asonate: i thought this ones gonna be an issue
02:49 Asonate: yeah
02:50 Littleboy40: 00:40:335 (5) - i think that i mentioned here that you skipped a tone
02:51 Littleboy40: i think why I noticed that is because before and after, you'd put a stack of 5 circles there
02:51 Littleboy40: but you broke the pattern there
02:51 Littleboy40: that's why I noticed
02:52 Asonate: yes
02:52 Asonate: thats right
02:52 Asonate: lemme fix that
02:52 Littleboy40: u still here? xD
02:52 Littleboy40: ah
02:52 Asonate: osu just froze
02:52 Asonate: happens way to often sadly
02:52 Littleboy40:
02:53 Littleboy40: 00:47:192 (4,5,6) - this one is very obvious
02:53 Littleboy40: it looks like it is a stack leading to the slider
02:54 Littleboy40: but a stack shouldn't do that
02:54 Littleboy40: a stream should
02:54 Littleboy40: and if you'd put a stream there, it'd be out of pattern
02:54 Littleboy40: so a stack shouldn't lead to a direction of something if you want it to be a stack