Trent83 wrote:

M4M

-use more tags (this is dumb but its useful) True, I can get around to thinking of some. I feel like all the nesessary tags were in teh meta XD
-Unmark widescreen support in all diffs Done
-White combo color must be erased, hurt the eyes and confuse the players It's a light grey

CP

00:02:685 (3) - ends in large white tick, why not put an slider and in the long tick a circle? I liked this suggestion because it made the rhythm less boring
00:04:463 (1) - Same This one's fine
00:08:018 (1) - Same Need to give preparation time for the spinner
00:12:463 (1) - use a combination here of 6 or 5 sliders, use the long tick I don't know exactly what you mean, but I think it's okay unless you can clarify maybe
00:38:685 (2) - A combination of 2 circles? and you can erase the slider (is the thing of the tick xDD) This is okay
01:44:018 (2) - use a combination of Slider + circle? Done
01:51:130 (2) - Same I'm going to keep this one. It suits the bass in the music and there's already 3 circles after the slider
01:52:463 (3,4,5) - start an slider in the object #4 that is "really difficult" on an easy so only use a max of 2 circles I think this is fiine too, its 1/1 at 135 bpm which is pretty low
01:54:685 (2) - ends in large white tick, why not put an slider and in the long tick a circle? Yeah, I agree this rhythm is better
01:58:241 (3) - same I used this slider to put emphasis on the "held out" sound here
01:59:574 (4,5,6) - "really difficult" so careful with that Like I mentioned above, I think the 3 circles are okay, even if they're zig-zag. But I'll keep an eye out in future mods
02:13:352 (1,2,3,4) - Same and its asymetric use 2 sliders is better I kept one and two but changed 3 and 4 into one slider
02:53:796 (3,4,5) - "very difficult for an easy" ^
03:04:018 (1) - Why an spinner? theres no sound there Holds out that dramatic effect of the last note for as long as possible

CP

00:20:463 (5) - theres no sound in the second of the back arrow, remove it The pitch of the door-hingey sound changes here
00:25:352 (4,1,3) - Overlap (i really hate overlap) They touch but they dont get in the way of eachother
00:28:167 (6,7) - Isnt snapped everything must be snapped in normals or easys There's a 1/3 rhythm here
00:30:241 (1) - No sound there No new sound, but theres a gate effect on the door-hinge sound so it emphasizes that
00:56:907 (1) - Asymetric, do it symetric Its horizontally symmetric
01:06:685 (4,1) - Overlap I made this look nice
01:26:463 (2) - doesnt fits with the music Fits with the door-hinge sound
01:29:796 (2) - Doesnt fit with the music for me, you can erase the arrow Same thing from above pattern.
01:33:352 (2) - Same All are okay, all for same reason as above
01:42:241 (3) - Same
02:31:130 (3) - same
03:04:018 (1) - Same thing of the spinner Listed above

ReFaller wrote:

M4M
So you want to mod only hard and higher. Was preferred; I was supposedly getting mods for easy+normal today and don't want mods to overlap
[HARD]
00:01:796 (1) - during gameplay i couldn't notice, but in editor i hear that better way should be keep this slider in 1/2 beat instead of 3/4 Did this
00:08:685 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - for which these follows? This slider stream and two circles before don't have that much sounds in music to be a slider stream. Listen the song again. The slider stream goes well with the riser, the triple just introduces it,
00:15:130 (3) - a little too long, shorten it to get 1/1 slider This is okay
00:15:907 (4) - then move it 1/4 beat earlier. Fix spacing should be necessary. I put this here to map to the gate effect of the hinge sound
01:12:018 (4,5) - try to close the distance between them, but try also Fixed
01:55:352 (4,5) - yes, fix the blanket, but move the object no.4 Fixed
02:37:130 (3,4) - a little weird placement, stack the 4 on 3 It already is stacked
02:50:463 (3,1,2,3) - because these stack have irregular rythm, don't stack them and force you to little remap I thought about this, but I think that would cause some reading difficulties regarding spacing vs. stacking.
02:53:685 (4,5,1,2,3) - again
02:57:241 (4,5,1,2,3) - yes...
03:04:018 (1) - i recommend remove this spinner, i wonder the rest of diff have the same, then when you remove this, remove also unecessary green lines Green lines are necessary because it controls the volume of the spinner while spinning. I have received another comment about removing the spinner but I really don't see what's wrong with it. So I'll ask about this and give it one more chance before removing.
[INSANE]
00:01:795 (1,2) - you didn't listen this when you mapped lol, instead of this must be three 1/2 circles Using circles in this case, I feel like it would make the intro kind of rushed
00:08:684 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same issue like in Hard Same reason listed above
00:12:462 (1,2,3) - for insane this still might be too hard 1/6 triplet, i recommend change into 1/6 slider It fits the music okay
01:28:017 (1,2,3,4) - this part can have more circles, listen when you can place them Has been mentioned before but I'm confident that this can stand. I'll ask about this
01:39:573 (2) - set NC Done
02:06:684 (2) - set NC here, because this part will be weird to read Done
02:09:684 (2) - NC Its fine
[EXTRA]
00:01:796 (1) - this is monotonous The slider shape? If that's what your talking aboutt then it fits with the others, it's fine
00:08:685 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - yeeesss.... Listed above
00:39:130 (1,2,3,4) - but this is WTF Ok. Scaled from 1.0 to 0.9
01:27:796 (3) - forgot NC? I removed it but yeah I'll change it back. I didn't want an orange slider for some reason XD
01:55:574 (1) - map this to main rythm It's okay. I don't know what else to map it to...
02:23:130 (2) - this is 1/2 beat too long No, mapped to the door-hinge sound
02:49:796 (5) - you have more sounds to map here Remapped. I was trying to make it so that the corner of the slider would put emphasis on the kick but the hold rhythm doesn't fit
03:00:463 (4) - this slider skips the very well hearable rythm on blue tick I was thinking about changing this, but I decided taht mapping consistently was more important
[NUTS]
This diff contais similar issues like EXTRA so i can skip this.

Anxient wrote:

m4m for https://osu.ppy.sh/b/905047

insane
00:02:129 (2) - make this a triple lol. just do it. dont question it. K
00:04:018 - missing note Its a white tick but there's nothing there
00:04:240 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you should make this more noticeable. the locations of the 1/4s and the 1/2s. put NCs or something http://puu.sh/nN2VP/f46dff6cc2.jpg. also dont do overlaps in this part it looks ugly imo I think the overlaps are okay. I did the nc thing tho
00:05:351 (1) - shorten to 1/2 slider and add note so that this note is represented by SOMETHING 00:05:574 - http://puu.sh/nN2V6/6163f6451b.jpg This beat isn't as strong; I feel like it's not needed
00:06:906 (6,1) - give this more spacing? .-. to fix spacing issues and to give emphasis to 1. http://puu.sh/nN2Y6/7a26df1196.jpg I adjusted 00:06:240 (3,4,5) to give more spacing and keep the placement of notes mentioned
00:08:017 (2,3,4,5) - same Here it's not as necessary
00:08:463 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - overmap. put only notes that exist. I've gotten this same mod before, I'm going to ask about it in modhelp or something and probably change it into a slider stream
00:18:684 (1) - ctrl g. flows better from the previous note to this one imo No, this is fine
00:35:795 (1,2,3,4) - try doing this. or something that will emphasize 4 better. theres a strong beat over there. use it. A stream is fine here. 4 is at a sharp corner as well so I think it's finehttp://puu.sh/nN35v/83d51a128c.jpg
01:31:573 (1,2) - lolwat. please do this rhythm http://puu.sh/nN39U/5c63f417d8.jpg. theres a beat youre ignoring in 01:32:018 - I made it so that beat went unignored. Used same rhythm you suggested except I made last slider end on red tick

extra
00:01:796 (1) - use this rhythm. you ignored certain crucial beats http://puu.sh/nN3lv/9d12b823de.jpg Using a back and forth slider instead. Working on applying this rhythm for all diffs
00:05:352 (3) - 00:05:574 - ignored Same mentioned above

ill stop here for now. please take care of your note placement lol. there are some notes you decide to ignore with sliders and dumb overlaps. take care of emphasis notes. remember, stronger sound = larger DS.

General

Apart from that, I think we're good.

Easy

Normal

I can't find the reason why both notes are NC'ed , I'd understand if you switched 00:14:907 (1,2) - those two NC's around, due to two emphasized beats. (A bit like you did here 00:21:352 (1,2,1) - )

Nice pattern, but I think that you should stick to a 1/3 slider for a normal diff.

Hard

Wow that is a tricky pattern to read for a hard diff. I really don't think that a smaller DS for the quicker notes will help enough, but I could be wrong. This occurs a lot of times here, so I know it's your mapping style, but be careful with those

Insane

Extra

Nuts

Spork Lover wrote:

General

Difficulty spread:
I'm writing the spread in order: It should gradually go up (CS is acceptable as it is.)
AR: 2, 5, 7,6, 9, 9, 9,7 (Since you play around with finetuning on the hard diff, you could do that for the other diffs too. Like.. 9.3 on Extra, 8.4 or 8.6 on Insane, and maybe increase AR to 2.4 and 5.3 on easy and normal. (Keep in mind that the jump from 2-7.6 is very hígh, and the insane and extra has the same AR (Which is gonna get commented on even more later probably.) I'm not going to do the fine-tuning thing. However, I eased the spread by changing Easy ar form 2 -> 3
OD: 3, 4, 5,7, 8, 8, 9,8 (Here, I'd change the extra OD to 8.6 and the insane to 7,4, normal to 3,8 and easy to 2,7 to: 1) have that funny finetune like on the hard diff and 2) make the spread more equal. I evened spread: 3,4.5,6,8,9,9.8

^ I'm mentioning all of this because the map-set is VERY gimmicky (and cool because of it), and the weird stats would compliment that a lot. Play around and see what you find best :3

Timing:
There's a (or more) timing points that conflict with the insane diff, look at the AIMod on any diff.

Song Setup:
The green and orange color is (compared to the gray tones), too bright. Consider toning them down a bit to compliment the background further ^^ This is okay. Fits bg

General mapping:
03:04:018 (1) - I saw that people were commenting on that the spinner should be removed, and I don't see a reason why it should be removed. You'll know that the song is over when you're spinning, so it makes no sense to remove it. (tl:dr: Don't remove it imo, will make situation worse) I just ended up shortening it because I was convinced that it was kind of pointless to spin to no sound. No way I'm removing it lmao.

Apart from that, I think we're good. Shweet

Easy

00:00:907 (2) - Since you made this curvy, 00:04:463 (1) should also have a small curve due to it being roughly the same sound. Sure, why not. Curved a teeny bit.
01:56:018 (4,5,1) - The slider makes this pattern a little weird imo. Consider a small curve or something similar. (Main reason is because the slider end doesn't form a square pattern with 01:57:352 (1,2,3) - Did this also )

Normal

I actually used these mods for easy diff by accident and that helped me find changes so thamks lmao
00:11:574 - Imo the ending of this spinner should have a clap sound. Did in normal and easy
00:14:241 (1,1) - I can't find the reason why both notes are NC'ed , I'd understand if you switched 00:14:907 (1,2) - those two NC's around, due to two emphasized beats. (A bit like you did here 00:21:352 (1,2,1) - ) That sound stands out a lot from the next part of the song it leads to. Its fine
00:28:018 (3,4,5,1) - Nice pattern, but I think that you should stick to a 1/3 slider for a normal diff. You'r right, changed.
01:25:352 (1,2,3) - To make it a little easier for a normal diff player to play, space the triple. I agree it would be easier to read, but I feel it might play strangely. I'll change it for now but if this gets brought up again I'm changing back
02:21:944 (1,2) - Here's the 1/3 thing again, it's not as problematic in this section though, up for you to decide This is okay. For now at least.

Hard

Lol ALT DS was set to 1/16, you funneh totally wasnt using 1/16... maybe...
00:28:019 (2,3,4) - 1/3 is totally fine on hards, but it's hard to read in this case. Consider curving it in a different way to make it more readable (Or NC some of it). This should be fine
01:08:241 (2,3) - I donno if making a blanket of some sort would ruin this section, but at least change the angle on the slider a bit or something ;o. I agree that was pretty ugly. Made saem curve as 3
01:51:796 (4,1) - Why not a stack like on the previous 3? True, fixed
02:16:018 (3) - NC? You NC'ed like that in your normal. Done
02:50:463 (3,1,2) - Wow that is a tricky pattern to read for a hard diff. I really don't think that a smaller DS for the quicker notes will help enough, but I could be wrong. This occurs a lot of times here, so I know it's your mapping style, but be careful with those I'm keeping. It's easy to play and its only tapping to a pretty simple 3/4 rhythm. Stacking is okay, and rhythm is repetitive.

Insane

In general, I think this diff is a lot messier than the hard diff, due to lack aesthetics, like there was on the hard diff. In general some patterns should be more tuned. A few suggestions are mentioned below, but there are probably a few more. I know this, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it but I'm working on it, I thinkI'll be asking for an irc mod exclusively for this diff.
00:35:795 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Instead of a weird curvy stream, could this work? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4772816 (This is due to the (imo) low amount of aesthetics). I think it would still keep the gimmicky mapping style that you're trying to accomplish by doing this, while adding a certain prettiness to the mapset. :3 This is fine
01:10:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern is alright, but the aesthetic values are still a lot messier than the previous diffs (There needs to be certain similarities.) I changed 4-6 to a stream, that pattern was too hard to play as well sadly
02:06:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern is a lot harder to play than you might think. An aesthetic pattern that would make you able to play it better AND be prettier could be something like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4773116 (The reason I think this is prettier is because the beat here is 1/3's, and the triangle emphasizes that it's 1/3 :3) (Also, the triangle doesn't have to be perfect like the one I made. Make it gimmicky if that suits your style more.) I think this is fine. It's just as jumpy as my first pattern in this section and is basically an alternative to a back-and-forth, even though it may read differently. My testplays played this alright, as well.
02:34:684 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - That pattern is amazing, nuff' said x) Thank you! cx

Keep in mind that there might be more sections that could use aesthetic polish, but the map is REALLY fun! (This is the difficulty I think that needs the most work though! )

Extra

00:16:018 (1) - The back n' forth pattern makes the NC awkward. Either change the pattern around a bit, or change the NC. I would do this, but I don't think it's okay to nc on a blue tick unless music calls for it If someone says for sure it's allowed then I'd totally do it
00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I LOVE that you brought this pattern to the extra as well <3 Much love, yesh. You like the stream ds changes dont you x3
01:32:018 (3) - Place this slider close to here instead: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4773163 (Will compliment rhythm I think.) This slider was a mess, I changed differently but even in an even more favorable way
02:09:796 (3) - If and ONLY if you denied the first suggestion on this diff, NC this note. Yeah same
02:24:463 (2) - I think you can afford to space this note more. I think it's okay

This is probably the best diff of the ones so far :3 Really enjoyed this diff. Thnx <3

Nuts

LOL love the diff name xD
00:01:241 (5) - Overlap this with 4 instead to create a flowy stack instead. This is okay
00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Instead of making them zig-zaggy, make them like you did on the expert, just a bit more spaced! (00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) from expert). I like how the ds decreased kind of "calms down" before the slow slider (808 kick).
01:01:352 (1) - Even though this is a mirrored pattern, you shouldn't NC this. You didn't for many of the other patterns in this section. You're right, it broke a lot of consistency there.
01:39:574 - to 01:53:796 is perfect imo. I can't find any problems here, so keep the changes to a minimum here, 'cause it's super consistent and fun :p Okay it's actually really helpful that you make this comment, because in a testplay, the player broke a lot more on the first half of that part than the other half you mentioned. I might compare the 2 and make some changes to the first part.
01:52:907 (4,5,6) - To spice up this triangle pattern, you could NC all three :3. I didn't nc all three, but it was already inconsistent of me to nc 4, so I did
02:09:685 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This stream could accelerate instead of slowing down. No (its already accelerated enough in the beginning wtf). The door-hinge sound pitches down here, plus this is the same thing I did as the first part of the map
02:13:574 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - All of these sliders should have a lower SV if you wanna keep 'em, 'cause they're way too hard to read atm ('Since we didn't encounter them yet. Do some sort of build-up first.) If I did a build up, that would be kind of inconsistent regarding the music (I mention consistency a lot because I feel it's important, there's already enough crazy patterns in this diff). These are perfectly readable as kicksliders already because the sv stays at 2.0x. No change.

Final Words:
Generally, the mapset is REALLY fun. It's a completely new take on mapping. The only inconsistent difficulty is the insane difficulty, because it has patterns, that don't exist in the harder nor' the easier diffs. But I definitely think you can make something out of it, 'cause it's still a fun diff! I really hope you'll get this ranked at some point GOOD LUCK! Thank you! <3

I hope my mod was useful in any way Please leave me feedback on my mod to tell me, what I did wrong and what I should change for future mods! Drop a kudosu if it was useful <3. Omg, your mod was beautiful. You covered every aspect of the set and so many of the mods were helpful. I really appreciate you moddig like this. Thanks

Spork~

pkhg wrote:

idk what to say here lolz

just aesthetic stuff on higher diffs

pkhg wrote:

[Easy]

00:09:796 (1) - im sure u can map this. kinda lazy atm lolz I think the spinner fits here
00:23:130 (1) - looks ugly curved to that degree so http://puu.sh/nUkG2/df35c0776c.jpg Did this
notsomuchstuffhereiguesslol

[Normal]

01:39:352 (3,1) - 1/3 stack seems confusing u know normal players suck xd Can confirm was normal player. fixed
02:15:130 (1,2,3,4) - too hardcore i guess Agreed. Changed to 2 sliders
02:21:352 (2,1,2,3) - ^ Same
01:12:907 (1,2,3,4) - ^ Also 2 sliders

[Hard]

too much 1/4 circles imo Going to ask about this one


sry for shitmod i feel kinda bad so you can ask me again if u need a mod See above

HML wrote:

M4M <3

!DISCLAIMER!
If this AT ALL infringes on your style, ignore it Infringes my style = no reply, thanks

EXTRA

00:06:241 (1,2) - Maybe space a bit more? No, spaced fine right now
00:12:463 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - The transition from one pattern to the next feels awkward (00:13:056 (6) to 00:13:204 (1)) Feels okay to me
00:16:241 (3,5) - Maybe a deep bass, drum hitsound? Mmm good thought. I might think about doing this throughout the mapset, but it would take a helluva lot of work
00:16:907 (1) - Placement of this slider feels weird. Maybe rotate it, and overlay on 00:16:463 (5) Overlayed on 00:16:130 (2), but no change other than that
00:17:574 (2) - Move if you do ^
00:18:241 (5) - Make completely straight maybe? Flows better in my opinion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I made this corner for it to flow well in the first place, actually
00:18:685 (1,1) - Space further apart This is close because of slow part +sv here
00:19:796 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Pattern feels awkward, maybe put two triangles like this?
00:23:352 (3,4) - Stack Opps lol done
00:30:685 (7,1) - Space a bit more No need for this
00:31:130 (1) - I do not like this slider ;-; Didn't change its direction or anything, but I gave it a lil more character
00:37:352 (3,4,5,6,7) - Curve a bit better, or make it more edged. I don't know what you were going for, lol
00:39:130 (1,2,3,4) - Feels like it comes out of nowhere, maybe space closer? I see where your coming from when you say "come's out of nowhere," might consider alternatives. And I already had spaced closer
00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Love this part <3 <3
01:02:241 (4,5) - Space further apart maybe? Done
01:11:130 (1,3) - Match up a bit better
01:20:907 (1,2,3) - Space closer Done
01:22:018 (3) - Feels out of place As far as rhythm goes? This fits the riser's pitch change, done through all diffs
01:45:796 (1,3) - Line up a bit better
01:23:574 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Really fun to play Thanks!
02:17:796 (1) - Place on top of 02:17:352 (5)
02:53:685 (4,5,1,2,3) - Not the most straight That's as straight as I can make it, with tiny grid

NUTS

Meta
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I'd personally lower the AR to 9.5 Had it at 9.5, raised due to readability
Maybe HP drain to 6ish This is fine

In-Game
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00:08:130 (5) - I don't like this slider, it looks ugly Made it look nice
00:08:463 (1) - Match up better with 00:08:130 (5) Don't know what you mean :/
00:15:130 (2) - I don't like this slider :/
00:15:907 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don'f like this pattern. It feels really unnatural. It uses a ds decrease and is pretty linear of a pattern, it sould be okay
00:16:907 (2) - Don't like this one either
00:20:018 (1,2,3,4) - pattern should start here - 00:19:796 (3) Changing would heavily interfere with the pattern. But if I find an alternative I'll use it
00:20:685 (2) - I hate all of the sliders like this. 00:31:130 (2) and 02:08:907 (1) These visually appeal to the music and are playable
00:23:130 (1,2,3,4,5) - Weird jump Had a lot of problems with this. Changed completely
00:34:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:38:463 - Missing beat I redid this section to suit the rhythm more appropriately
01:22:018 (2) - Feels out of place Fits riser change in pitch
01:26:685 (1) - Ctrl+J No, but helpful b/c I did make it flow better
01:33:352 (1) - I don't like this slider. Not the shape, but it comes out of nowhere. Time for another spaced stream!
02:07:278 (5,6) - Ctrl+G No need, jumps fit well

Love the map

Shiny Spoon wrote:

[Nuts]
OD is way too high, lower it to 9 please. This is not some Mazzerin Death Metal song, and is nowhere near 8 stars. For a couple other reasons I lowered a little to 9.4

00:00:019 (1,2) - Space this a bit more, considering the jumps/doubles you have after it this is WAY too close together. No this blankets okay

00:05:352 (1) - Considering the maps style already, you can probably get away with ending this on the red tick, adding a note on the blue to flow into the second slider. I already like how this exaggerates the big kick

00:05:352 (1) - No NC This is okay

00:08:907 (3) - NC ^

00:09:796 (1) - No NC This is fine because it's on a white tick. And I don't want this combo to be too drawn out compared to the rest of the intro.

00:10:685 (1) - an NC here is unneeded because of the spinner Indicates the next part of the song

00:15:130 (2) - Okay...this slider is asking for breaks x.x It's fine, + see prev. mods We also discussed this in discord but I think you misunderstood (and it's my fault for not elaborating); the blue trail represents a cursor path the player can take with leeway.

00:16:907 (2) - This one just stretches out too much to the right x.x It's already pretty condensed

00:19:352 (2) - NC here. Always add an NC 00:19:574 (1) - drop NC here NC moved. (Didn't put on downbeat because otherwise combos would be too choopy)

00:24:685 (1) - No NC here, on the downbeat Changed also

01:16:463 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - um.....no please? Plays fine with high AR (I agree it does look weird in the editor)

01:20:018 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - this reads terribly. Agreed. I added an offset stack on the overlaps which I think will help

01:24:907 (2) - NC here, and not after the other. I see where your coming from, but I think it's okay. The green combo color is a rarity in the map and represents the transition from the slow to the fast part of the map

02:08:907 (1) - im not a big fan of these zig zag slider things, they seem out of place. Define out-of-place? These go okay to the music.


Im sorry if any of this is against your map style, and its hard for me to give feedback as I cant really do this style of mapping myself so I cant say what is right and wrong on most of it. Sorry if this was short It's okay! I'm sorry if it might seem like I didn't change much but your mods were a big help.

Good luck on your map.

Moeka wrote:

[NUTS]

1. 00:08:130 (5,1) - ugly stacking imo Made it better
2. 00:59:018 (2,4) - maybe these dont have to overlap Changed
   lol this is way too hard for me to mod

[EXTRA]

1. 02:29:907 (4) - nc to separate the pattern? This is okay.
2. 02:54:018 (5,1) - kinda not liking this spacing. very confusing. stack would work just fine imo Fine also, it kind of decelerates into the stack
3. 02:57:574 (5,1) - this too

^

[INSANE]

1. 00:09:574 (5,6) - pretty sure this is wrong rhythm I'm sure this is okay
2. 00:12:759 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - at least for insane you should use sliders or mix sliders in. this is way too hard I made 1,2,3 a repeat slider
3. 00:23:130 (1,2,3,4) - this is something you don't see in insane Made it a normal stream
4. 00:24:018 (1,2,3,4) - confusing Made it an offset stack
5. 00:27:130 (2) - stack on the tail?... It's fine
6. 00:28:019 (2) - same ^
7. 01:00:796 (2,3) - try not to overlap. they look bad to me Only grazes the next slider, doesn't do much harm
8. 02:21:796 (5) - you should probably nc this Done!

i wonder how people find this kind of music lol Soundcloud works magic

gl

reanik wrote:

Hey there! M4M

Easy

02:00:907 (1) - Slider looks a little oddly shaped, maybe make the rounded section a little "fatter?" True, done

Normal

Check Distance Snap in AIMod, couple of places the DS is off by the looks of things Got it

00:29:352 (3) - You're probably gonna hear a lot of this - oddly shaped slider, just really caught my eye as it's so strangely shaped Made this neat

01:23:574 (2) - I think I know why it's shaped like this, it just looks odd amongst all the smoother sliders to me Fits song

01:54:685 (2) - Again, I think we know what I'm gonna say Fixed

02:46:241 (4) - And again, although this one looks like you could just flatten the top part and it'd be fine Did what you said

Most of the lower Difficulties, it's just weird slider shapes that are making me flag, partly because I'm not amazing at mapping them, so wouldn't know much to say on them.

Hard

01:06:463 (6,7) - Not a nice looking overlap Fixed

02:08:907 (1) - Just looks a little weird to me is all Didn't change the shape but made it look nicer

I am going to ask you check some of your DS again in places, and at the start, the stacks feel a little excessive. DS fluctuates in Hard maps

Insane

00:04:463 (1,2,1,2) - SPACING, spacing is the same as here: 00:03:574 (1,2) - but on smaller intervals, just feels awkward and confusing to the player. I'm sure these small jumps are okay

00:15:130 (3) - Sliders like this are super easy to slider break on. No, this can be very easily played

00:22:241 (1) - Again with weird shapes a e s t h e t i c is okay

00:29:352 (2) - Another easy break slider ^

01:28:019 (1,2,3) - careful with overlap 1&3, quite difficult to read It would be harder to leave if I didn't offset overlap at all

02:06:685 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Jump set is difficult to read, just a personal opinion on that though, I've seen it before it's just I thought this looked hard to read If you've seen it before then it's probably okay; I made the offset stack consistent tho on 1,3,5,7

02:16:018 (1) - Another one easy to break on Just a corner

A lot of this was looking at slider shapes, as some were really hard to follow when I was playing them. I won't look at the higher difficulties (as I can't play that high a difficulty even trying!) As for other notes, just make sure things lie in DS where they need to be, as some aren't jumps but might be lying outside the DS. I found the Difficulty settings pretty fair, quite enjoyed playing through the set! DS can fluctuate in higher difficulties, I appreciate the comments! Your weird slider shape mods in the lower diffs were very helpful.

This is my first mod in a few months xD so sorry it's not brilliant, and probably mostly stuff you can ignore xD

Yoratama wrote:

Hi, M4M here, im not good at this.

SPOILER

I think RC means "remove combo" but correct me if im wrong
EASY
00:02:241 - add note Done
02:52:463 (1) - Move NC to 02:53:796 (3) - ? Done, did this for entire outro
02:55:130 (1) - RC There's no combo here?
02:40:461 - Add Circle? It's okay like this
02:46:685 - ^^
NORMAL
00:08:907 (1) - Spinner is weird imo , maybe change like 02:00:907 - It's fine here
01:13:796 (1) - RC? Done
02:33:796 - ^ But it's fine here
02:23:130 (2) - Move NC here I think nc is okay here
HARD
00:16:907 (1) - RC? because no SV change here. move brown NC here There's no sv changes to begin with, also nc is okay
02:24:907 (1) - ^ All of these are okay
02:28:018 (1) - ^
01:22:018 (2) - Short Slider will better imo A long slider is fine here
02:37:130 (3,4) - Make the stack better This is a default stack
02:41:685 - Remove Circle? feel weird and there's no drum sound No, there's bongo sound here. All are fine
02:48:796 (5) - ^
02:50:463 (3,1,2) - Different beat, but same note place, move 1 of them naybe? im confusing when first testplay. Did this
03:02:018 (7) - NC Didn't nc that note but I made nc better

Sorry if it's short, don't really understand about dub wub music Dont know what genre it's called lol
Hope it Help! It did!

1. 00:00:907 (2) - dont like this slider. offer http://puu.sh/o3rap/5d20999c40.jpg : first node x276 y120, next (lower node) x396 y136, next (upper) x352 y56, and last node x480 y76 (if it is applied, do not forget to put the rest of the objects under the Snap.)
2. 00:23:130 (1) - http://puu.sh/o3rpo/20b9b34f1f.jpg : x332 y84
3. 00:26:241 -I think there is need note
4. 00:40:018 (4) - work with a view of the slider
5. 01:04:018 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/o3rC6/55c20007c2.jpg

1. 00:02:130 (3) - delete
2. 00:35:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - work whit a view the stream

1. 00:00:019 (1,1) - work with a view of the slider (look askew, like most of the sliders on all the diff)
2. 02:09:574 - it seems to me, on the tunes here should be a triple
3. 02:11:796 - ^
   and all related aspects

1. 01:50:907 (5) - x120 y96
   I do not know what else you can add here, but one thing is for sure: it is necessary to work with all the streamers (or as it may be called), which look like this: 00: 15: 907 (3,4,5,6,7,8 ) - Yes, I understand that this is a decrease of the distance between the notes, but it looks sloppy

Chiyuyu wrote:

hi, m4m

[Easy]

1. 00:00:907 (2) - dont like this slider. offer http://puu.sh/o3rap/5d20999c40.jpg : first node x276 y120, next (lower node) x396 y136, next (upper) x352 y56, and last node x480 y76 (if it is applied, do not forget to put the rest of the objects under the Snap.) I feel like this is the same thing I have but mirrored
2. 00:23:130 (1) - http://puu.sh/o3rpo/20b9b34f1f.jpg : x332 y84 done
3. 00:26:241 -I think there is need note Done
4. 00:40:018 (4) - work with a view of the slider Made it look nicer
5. 01:04:018 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/o3rC6/55c20007c2.jpg I like the way this is

[Insane]

1. 00:02:130 (3) - delete There is a note here
2. 00:35:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - work whit a view the stream Changed this

[Extra]

1. 00:00:019 (1,1) - work with a view of the slider (look askew, like most of the sliders on all the diff) I think this looks fine
2. 02:09:574 - it seems to me, on the tunes here should be a triple This pattern works fine
3. 02:11:796 - ^ ^
   and all related aspects

[Nuts]

1. 01:50:907 (5) - x120 y96 Changed
   I do not know what else you can add here, but one thing is for sure: it is necessary to work with all the streamers (or as it may be called), which look like this: 00: 15: 907 (3,4,5,6,7,8 ) - Yes, I understand that this is a decrease of the distance between the notes, but it looks sloppy

good luck Im keeping ds decrease but if I ever find a waay to make these look better (I think they're fine atm) I will

Crimmi wrote:

Hai, m4m here.

EASY

1. 00:09:796 (1,1) - I felt that these two should be switch since this felt odd, most basically because where you had the spinner is mappable and the spinner or a long slider like you had at 01:23:574 (1) (for example) could've been placed at 00:12:463 instead. I mapped to the spinner
2. 00:27:574 (2) - This could be moved a bit to be aligned with (1) Moved it down like in the picture.
3. 00:34:685 (2) - Maybe you can flip this slider for a better flow. Done
4. 00:35:574 (3) - I feel here you might've missed a downbeat here by putting a slider a bit early on, but perhaps if you placed two notes in it's place and then adding a slider at 00:36:463 (x), it'll sound better imo. This is okay
5. 00:41:796 (2) - Suggestion.[/color] I like the way this is now
6. 02:29:352 (1) - Remove New Combo. No, significant change in music here[/color]

NORMAL

1. 00:14:907 (2,3) - Perhaps remove the NC from (2) and apply it to (3).
2. 00:24:907 (1,3) - Remove NC from (1) and apply it to (3). Did this in a different way
3. 00:28:018 (3,1) - Check the spacing on that, it is a Normal after all. Also at 00:28:463 (1), the NC can be removed and be placed at 00:29:352 (6). Fixed spacing Also I went through that whole first part and did better nc's
4. 01:12:907 (1) - Imbalanced NC. This is fine
5. 01:13:796 (1) - ^ Don't see an nc here?
6. 01:16:463 (1) - ^ This is okay. Everything below is also okay
7. 01:17:352 (1) - ^
8. 01:41:352 (1) - ^
9. 02:10:685 (3) - This could be moved to a better spot so that it doesn't get obscured by (1). I changed 1 slider instead, but 3 is now not obscured
10. 02:28:018 (2,3,1,2) - This part here looks like a slight mess, particularly the two sliders overlapping, perhaps you can re-arrange this somehow? Fixed
    *]02:29:574 (2,3) - Inconsistent spacing. I already adjusted this before hand, guess it's fine now
11. 02:48:018 (2) - I don't know how I feel about a hidden slider under another slider on a Normal, but there must be a better place than that. Not "hidden," the player has time to realize this positioning of the slider
12. 02:54:241 (4,1) - Check your NC's here, remove the NC from (1) and add it to (4). This is okay
13. 03:00:796 (4) - Hmm, why is this one different than the ones you did like 02:58:685 (2)? It's longer and has more room to curve. This difference is okay.

HARD

1. 00:13:796 (4) - Maybe flip this up for better flow? Like the way it flows from 3. Very seperated from the next part also.
2. 00:15:907 (4,5,6) - Check your spacing there. It's okay to fluctuate ds in hard
3. 00:35:796 (2,3) - Why the random whistles? I don't feel they really fit in this map imo. Because I didn't use a whistle, I just used that button for hitsounds

Hmm. . . I am not familiar in that kind of music genre so I apologize for the somewhat miniscule mod.

HappyHorse191 wrote:

One thing is that you have your kiais turning off and on, which can cause lag and can be kinda distracting, so kiai could be at 00:18:685 - 00:32:907 - 02:12:463 - 02:26:685 - and from 02:30:241 to 02:36:463.
Another thing is that you could have the kiai at 02:21:352 end at 02:22:241. I'll look at these later and see about this

~Easy
-CS size could possibly be 2.8. 3 is fine
-01:59:574 (4) - This could start a new combo. Done
-00:04:463 (1,2) - 2 could possibly blanket around 1. Its possible, but I don't want it
-00:20:907 (2,1) - This could blanket. ^ and need flow here
-00:33:796 (1,2) - This could blanket. ^^

~Normal
-00:14:907 (1) - This note could be removed. There's a note here
-00:24:018 (1) - This doesn't have to be a new combo but this one could 00:24:685 (2) - . It could but I feel this works better
-00:19:352 (3,1) - This could blanket. Nah
-00:31:130 (1,2) - This could be blanketed a bit better. No intention to blanket here
-00:33:574 (3,1) - This could blanket. No
-00:34:463 (3,4) - Why is this spaced-out? It looks like it but it's distance snap being weird xd

~Hard
-Lower AR Fine where it is. There are AR8 hards
-Lessen streams; examples at 00:33:797 done- 01:12:907 done- 02:27:574 also done. will look into reducing more streams if needed.
-Shorten things like this Don't understand what to "shorten" Also wtf is that skin
-00:00:019 (1,2,3) - Possible blanket. Don't want any blankets below
-00:03:574 (1,2,3) - Possibly blanket.
-01:03:130 (4,1) - Possible blanket.
-01:04:685 (2,3) - Possible blanket.
-01:08:241 (2,3) - Possible blanket.

~Insane
-OD needs to be lowered
-AR could be turned down a bit (upon inspection of rank maps,) Both are fine
-Thing at 00:04:241 (2,1,2,1,2) - needs to be evenly placed (or rearranged) because it looks kinda confusing. Just 2 small jumps next to eachother, nothing an insane player can't really do after 1 retry
-At 03:00:463 (4) - , it could be mapped something like this because it goes with the back-beat. Remapped this
-01:03:130 (4,5) - Possible blanket :v Unintentional


~Xtra
-Lower OD. 9 is fine on extra
-I've been told that spaced streams should be used wisely, but idk how yours works cause I can't play it. xd (it seems fine with relax, but idk) Haven't gotten any bad comments so far
-01:09:130 (3,4) - Possible blanket. No to both
-01:50:574 (2,3) - Possible blanket.

~Nuts
-Lower OD. Already did. Works for sr and spread
-Random fast sliders could be slowed down a bit. sv is fine imo
-Weird-styled sliders could be better organised so you don't have to move your cursor all over the place. No you dont link
-Spaced streams still...
-01:18:907 (3) - The end of this slider has a random hitsound. Oppsies, fixed.
-Some streams are unevenly spaced apart. Intentionally
-00:16:685 (1,2) - Possible blanket. No
-00:20:463 (1,2) - Possible blanket. No
-00:21:352 (1,2) - Possible blanket. Already is a blanket xd
-00:24:685 (4,1) - This could be blanketed better. No intention here

Errrrrhuhfuajb...

Cheesecake wrote:

M4M

[HITSOUNDS]

I noticed in parts after 00:22:241 (1) - here, you've got a constant clicking going on, which you could get some kind of hitsound for, especially when it comes back again in your main kiai bit here 01:25:352 (1) - Hmmm I think I'll look into doing this

[INSANE]

00:12:463 (1,2,3) - 202.5 BPM triplet a bit much for 4* really, repeat slider would be easier It would be easier but this is 135 bpm and triplets are okay in insane

00:20:463 (1) - Cute blanket Thanks :p

Not much to comment on since it's a 4* difficulty other than it's a little chaotic and untity, but with experience you'll fix that yourself so w/e Yeah a lot of people are saying that and I'm looking for some direction

[EXTRA]

AR to 9.4 or smthn pls AR9 works fine imo

00:01:241 (4,5) - Shouldn't really be stacked as the (5) is on a stronger beat, it's best to stack doubles like this when they're the same sound (refer to the NUTS mod I probably went into more detail there) Changed

00:23:130 (1,2,3,4,5) - This kind of pattern would imply that (1,2) are the same beat, (3) is a lot louder, and so is (5) (which it is). In reality this isn't what the music is, so yeah Changed

ok this diff is just NUTS but a bit easier so read NUTS mod and apply the same things to this tbh I'll go through this


[NUTS]

00:00:907 (3) - You could increase the spacing of this from the slider, since you've got that click and whatever it calls to be larger than the jump after it Small pause before it so doesn't matter too much

00:01:241 (5) - Ends on a strong beat, should make that white tick clickable K did another spaced double

00:01:796 (1) - Similar to above, but you've got the VERY strong beat not clickable, 00:02:018 - to 00:02:018 - could make a triplet The back and forth slider works well here

00:03:018 (5,6) - I don't see why this is at the angle it's at, could do something like this where I copy + pasted (3,4) and rotated 15 degrees This is fine

00:05:352 (1) - Really, this should be shortened down to a 1/2 slider and then you could put a circle ontop of the next slider like so, first the song better and plays better imo Did this

00:08:018 (4) - Could stack this ontop of the (5) since you've got a strong beat on (4) so it's good to increase the spacing on it, while (5) is pretty weak so no spacing is cool uses the same rhythm concept ive been using in the intro

00:08:463 (1) - Pretty strong beat, I wouldn't stack it there Spaced it

00:15:907 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spacing on this is all funky, since you've got 00:16:241 (6,8) - as strong beats but the spacing is progressively decreasing Decreasing to the note pitch

00:23:574 (5) - Not a fan of this flow since you've got the cursor bouncing from left to right beforehand and then wooaaah we're not bouncing wtf (An idea) This is a new part and I see what you're saying. But I want to wait for more mods to get an idea of how I should change it (should I change it at all).

00:34:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The sound here isn't all that different from the previous ones but the difficulty goes through the ROOF holy Testplays didn't have much of a problem with this

00:56:907 (1) - Omg a part I can play Same

01:13:796 (1) - I believe this counts as using slider points to reduce sv, which is unrankable (could be wrong) Not trying to get around an sv change. This actually fits the music

01:17:796 (1,2,3,4) - But why Because this whole map

01:20:018 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This would imply some gradual increase in volume / intensity, which there isn't in the song so uh There clearly is intensity increasy

Most of the things I've said can be applied to other stuff with your own intuition so I'll save myself some time and be lazy and finish here to move onto other diffs (I mod from hardest -> easiest but I order from easiest -> hardest xd)

Tl;dr pay more attention to beats and space accordingly Yeah, I didn't read your mod

Akitoshi wrote:

m4m
I'm suk at modding sorry

Easy

1. 00:00:019 (1,2,3) - idk why you used x0.9 DS while the all other part was x0.8? lol Ok i fixed it
2. 00:58:241 (2,3) - this would be my own taste but yea symmetrical slider would be niceeee I like this
3. 01:09:796 (2,3) - this is awkward to see that 01:09:796 (2) - is touching on the slider 01:08:018 (4) - . and please stack 01:10:241 (3) - to the tail of 01:08:018 (4) - ??? Fixed all of this
4. 01:25:352 (1,3) - symmetrical slider? Looks pretty similar already
5. 02:48:907 (4) - curve it more for better flow with entire combo Uhh okay I think I made this a little better

Normal

1. 00:12:463 (1,2,3,4) - since it's still normal so hey, you can make it simple like this. 1/3 kick for three times a row is pretty harsh for player It's okay since it's a hold rhythm
   
2. 01:04:907 (2,4) - they are touching, maybe can avoid it xd Fixed
3. 01:11:574 (3,1) - ^ Fixed
4. 02:06:685 (2,3) - yea let's make it simple as well I guess ^
   
5. 02:39:130 (4) - this fits too. Can apply in 02:42:685 (4) - as well Used another alternative
   
6. 02:51:574 (2,3,4) - three stacking is too much (based on my mistakes b4 this was a bad idea they say), maybe convert 02:51:574 (2,3) - to slider? Done

Hard

1. 00:27:574 (1,2,3,4) - Very hard to hit lol. maybe 00:27:574 (1) - as Streams and 00:28:019 (2,3,4) - as kickslider will work much better Did this
2. 01:06:685 (7) - idk maybe balance the spacing with 01:06:463 (6) - how the 01:04:685 (2,3) - and 01:05:574 (4,5) - was Done
3. 01:31:907 (4) - uhmmm this skipped sth on 01:32:018 - so yes, doubles works very well here Bass in background
   
4. 01:46:130 (4) - same with ^ ^
5. 02:19:574 (3) - missing something on 02:20:018 - that can be actually work as slidertail xd Done. wtf was I thinking here
6. 02:54:241 (1,2,3,4) - make it a bit further with 02:54:018 (5) - since it's still confusing even though there's NC I made this a slider
7. 02:57:796 (1,2,3,4) - same as ^ Fixed all
8. 03:01:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^

Inane

1. 00:10:685 (8) - you can unstack it from 00:10:463 (7) - trust me lol I like it stacked tho
2. 00:35:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - idk why you slowly spreading this stream pattern while the impact of the song isn't really increasing but yea make it balance can looks better~ A gradual increase is okay here
3. 02:12:463 (1) - why slowed down the sv? Only this part compared to 02:08:907 (1,1) - ? Because in the latter one mentioned, you still have the door hinge sound, but in the other you have only a long, held out snare
4. 02:26:685 (1) - similar to ^ actually this have same impact with 02:28:463 (4) - but you set them different sv multiplier xd ^

and idk if it's just only me or notttt the spinner at last isn't really necessary since there's no more audio at all? (yes I set volume to 100% both my osu! volume settings and Headphones and I can't hear any) There is a pad fading out during the spinner


sorry I can't rly mod extra. I shoot the star as my apology ;3;)
Good Luck~!

DuckNess wrote:

NUTS:

P.S THESE ARE PERSONALLY MY OPIONS PLZ DON'T TAKE THESE SUGGESTIONS TOO SERIOUSLY

00:00:019 - for this beginnign section i recomment to not use 100% volume since the beat is hard to hear and i think that it would be better if it was building up This is okay

00:00:907 - maybe use a slider for this sound? 00:04:463 - too Both are fine

00:08:685 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - idk what section of the song you're trying to map Change of pitch in the risers

00:10:907 (1) - extend this spinner to the blue? Started at blue, if that's what you mean

00:14:907 (1) - try using a low sv sv should be raised here if anything

00:15:907 (3,4) - a bit awkard Didn't know where else to put it; I asked this too and it is said that it is fine

00:15:907 (3,4) - start the sliders from here? This sounds fine as is

00:22:685 (2,3) - low sv? Not going to change sv just to make shorter sliders

00:29:130 (2) - low sv?

00:34:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe start off weak and build up? I tried this and it looks really messy

00:55:130 - sorta a weird place to start and spinner and i think that you can extend it to the blue tic Moved it back but not extending this

01:12:685 (6,1) - I don't really like the spacing between these two I seem to like this positioning the best.

01:18:130 (4,1) - same with this how it feels weird when u play It's just a spaced stream into a slider

01:28:907 - maybe play around with spacing a bit more I did a lot here already and I like the way this plays out now

02:10:463 (1) - low sv? Same

02:11:574 (1,2) - these feel too similar for very different sounds They fit for both

02:13:574 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - a bit better spacing? You only have to consider the sliderheads here, since the player wont slide out to the slidertail. That's why it says spacing is uneven in the top right. I did thoroughly measure this and distance /spacing seems consistent

02:15:796 (3) - something different for a different sound? Hmm good idea, but I don't know what I can do here

02:21:796 (1,2,3) - try this? http://puu.sh/of1E1/9a731963ea.jpg This works okay

Sorry if I didn't accept much, your mod helped me consider a lot tho.

Hello o7

1. 00:08:018 (1,2,1,2) - are difficult to read, pls, spacing like in 00:04:463 (1,2,1,2) -
2. 00:12:759 (4,5,6,7) - 1/3 and very inconsistent spacing?? that will be bad idea u.u
3. 00:16:463 (7) - 00:30:685 (6) - 01:28:686 (4) - 02:10:241 (5) - 02:24:463 (5) - Stacks like those are difficult to read, moving a bit will improve it. http://puu.sh/ojTlb/cd2748903d.jpg
4. 00:28:019 (2,3,4) - nice owo)b
5. 00:31:130 (1) - Ctrl+G will be more intuitive, ask for opinions about it.
6. 00:34:241 (3) - mm.. too away?, move a bit up: http://puu.sh/ojTxM/b44ed77747.jpg
7. 00:35:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why inconsistent spacing?, does not have sense for me :/
8. 01:23:574 (1) - too ugly hahaha
9. 01:25:685 (2) - 01:27:463 (2) - 01:29:241 (2) - 01:31:018 (2) - 01:32:796 (2) - 01:34:574 (2) - disable grid, and make DS perfect, Due those jumps are fast and away, any wrong spacing feels weird.
10. 02:06:685 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think you will improbe it. Increasing spacing will not work fine, because its 1/3.
11. 02:21:796 (1,2,3) - Prefect DS pls
12. 02:34:685 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - non-sense random spacing xD
13. Good rhythms man, i really like that. Consistency need more work, but was a good map

1. 00:00:019 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - why the inconsistent spacing?, its 1.4x or 1.5x?, even if it is a hard, try to be consistent!! pls!! >_<
2. 00:21:574 (2) - It is difficult to read, I think stack is bad idea. Make it like in 02:32:018 (2) - (same for similar patterns)
3. 00:21:796 (3) - 2.0?, or 2.4? :/
4. 01:10:463 (3) - nice >:3
5. 01:31:574 (2,3) - ... 1.5?, 1.6? or 1.35?
6. ...and etc etc etc, pls check all map, try to be consistent, if you make jumps with 2.0, then use it in all map (since this have sense, of course), or if make common spacing with 0.8, or 1.5, or etc, use it in all map.

1. 01:26:463 (2) - mm... It is a bit out screen.
2. 01:30:685 (1,2,3) - You could improve flow.
3. 02:39:130 (4) - repeat slider maybe?
4. Good, try improve slider shapes n.n

1. mm.... I think this diff need more work with flow. try to make it extremely obvious for new players!.
2. Like in normal, try improve slider shapes too (00:29:352 (1) - X.x).
3. From 00:56:907 - to 02:01:796 - , is veeeery intense, since that does not have any break or something like this. That will be bad for "easy" maps in long songs like this.

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:

Hello o7


Love this pic XD <3


[NUTS]
man, This really dont looks rankable. I would like to know why you think that

[Extra]
If you want to rank this diff, It will need more consistency and readably, imo. Scanned over this diff many times, I would like to know where

[Insane]

1. 00:08:018 (1,2,1,2) - are difficult to read, pls, spacing like in 00:04:463 (1,2,1,2) - Not too difficult to read; AR 9 and they're spaced but it isn't that drastic.
2. 00:12:759 (4,5,6,7) - 1/3 and very inconsistent spacing?? that will be bad idea u.u Jumps are okay
3. 00:16:463 (7) - 00:30:685 (6) - 01:28:686 (4) - 02:10:241 (5) - 02:24:463 (5) - Stacks like those are difficult to read, moving a bit will improve it. http://puu.sh/ojTlb/cd2748903d.jpg I originally had an offset stack, but that made it look messy.
4. 00:28:019 (2,3,4) - nice owo)b :D
5. 00:31:130 (1) - Ctrl+G will be more intuitive, ask for opinions about it. I did this
6. 00:34:241 (3) - mm.. too away?, move a bit up: http://puu.sh/ojTxM/b44ed77747.jpg Done
7. 00:35:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why inconsistent spacing?, does not have sense for me :/ Theres more exageration in the song when it's spaced more
8. 01:23:574 (1) - too ugly hahaha Uhh I didn't change the slider in general but I made it less "tilted" at the end so it looks nicer
9. 01:25:685 (2) - 01:27:463 (2) - 01:29:241 (2) - 01:31:018 (2) - 01:32:796 (2) - 01:34:574 (2) - disable grid, and make DS perfect, Due those jumps are fast and away, any wrong spacing feels weird. You don't ever need to turn off grid snapping
10. 02:06:685 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think you will improbe it. Increasing spacing will not work fine, because its 1/3. Jumps are okay at 1/3 even if spacing varies
11. 02:21:796 (1,2,3) - Prefect DS pls Sry, don't need a perfect ds
12. 02:34:685 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - non-sense random spacing xD These go to the pitch changes
13. Good rhythms man, i really like that. Consistency need more work, but was a good map

[Hard]

1. 00:00:019 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - why the inconsistent spacing?, its 1.4x or 1.5x?, even if it is a hard, try to be consistent!! pls!! >_< It was a ds error where last 1 was moved down. 1.5 here btw
2. 00:21:574 (2) - It is difficult to read, I think stack is bad idea. Make it like in 02:32:018 (2) - (same for similar patterns) Made it a repeat slider instead
3. 00:21:796 (3) - 2.0?, or 2.4? :/ Made this better
4. 01:10:463 (3) - nice >:3 :D
5. 01:31:574 (2,3) - ... 1.5?, 1.6? or 1.35? Blanket. ds can fluctuate in hard
6. ...and etc etc etc, pls check all map, try to be consistent, if you make jumps with 2.0, then use it in all map (since this have sense, of course), or if make common spacing with 0.8, or 1.5, or etc, use it in all map. All streams are .8, all jumps are ~1.3 with few exceptions that have to do with sv changes changing the number :3

[normal]

1. 01:26:463 (2) - mm... It is a bit out screen. Looks like it in editor but its in the grid
2. 01:30:685 (1,2,3) - You could improve flow. I pointed slider end more toward circle, if that's what you meant..
3. 02:39:130 (4) - repeat slider maybe? I added a circle (both times)
4. Good, try improve slider shapes n.n

[Easy]

1. mm.... I think this diff need more work with flow. try to make it extremely obvious for new players!.
2. Like in normal, try improve slider shapes too (00:29:352 (1) - X.x). New players shouldn't get too confused over a funny shaped slider like this
3. From 00:56:907 - to 02:01:796 - , is veeeery intense, since that does not have any break or something like this. That will be bad for "easy" maps in long songs like this.Stamina isn't much of a problem in Easy difficulties, only in a high bpm since your constrained to 1/1 mapping mostly

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Sorry for dont mod Extra and Nuts diffs, If I moded those, could be veeeeery long xD

21:18 *squirrelpascals is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/922018 SO SUS + KONKA - ACORN]
21:25 emanfman: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4962953
21:33 emanfman: 00:15:907 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - 
21:34 emanfman: 00:17:796 (1,2,3,4) - 
21:35 squirrelpascals: 00:19:796 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
21:35 emanfman: 00:19:796 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 
21:35 emanfman: 00:23:130 (1,2,3,4,5) - 
21:35 emanfman: 00:23:130 (1,3,5) - 
21:35 emanfman: 00:23:241 (2,4) - 
21:37 emanfman: 00:32:018 (3,4,5,6) - 
21:39 emanfman: 00:34:018 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 
21:41 squirrelpascals: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4963002
21:41 emanfman: 00:38:241 (2) - 
21:41 emanfman: 00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 
21:43 emanfman: 00:41:796 (1,2,3,4) - 
21:44 emanfman: 01:12:796 (6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 
21:45 emanfman: 01:33:352 (4,5,6,7) - 
21:45 emanfman: 01:14:130 (2,3,4,5,6) - 
21:46 emanfman: 01:10:463 (3,4,5,6,1) - 
21:47 emanfman: 01:33:130 (3,4) - 
21:47 emanfman: 01:33:463 (5) - 
21:48 emanfman: 01:42:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - 
21:50 squirrelpascals: ok
21:51 emanfman: 02:09:685 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 
21:51 squirrelpascals: 00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
21:54 emanfman: 02:29:574 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 
21:56 emanfman: 02:31:574 (5) - 
21:56 emanfman: 02:34:685 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - 
21:58 squirrelpascals: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4963060
21:59 emanfman: 02:35:574 (1) - 
21:59 emanfman: 02:35:018 (4) - 
22:01 emanfman: 02:40:018 (1,2,3) - 
22:03 emanfman: 02:48:796 (1,2,3,4,5) - 
22:07 squirrelpascals: thank you for mods <3
22:07 emanfman: Np <3

1. Is this name related to the song?, or just a meme?
2. 00:10:241 (3) - unsnapped slider end
3. 00:00:907 (3,4,5,6) - spacing ok lets start with this first, the spacing in this mapset sometimes looks chaotic, specially when you do circle patterns with different gaps in the timeline, for example 00:00:907 (3,4,5) - the 3 objects have the same spacing visually talking, but different gaps in the time line, you can argue someone can read this spacings and it's true, but they aren't intuitive to play and are super uncomfortable, so I'm strongly against them.
   People usually think extra diffs use a random spacing, but isn't true they follow a theme, pitch, lyrics, comboing etc. I have a hard time figuring some of your spacing in this diff, so I'll suggest you to take a look of some more extra diffs and change the spacing in this one to a more consistent one, consistent in this case doesn't mean the same spacing over and over, but to follow theme and apply that consistency to similar parts in the song, take as example 00:01:018 (4,5) - vs 00:01:352 (6,7) - , 00:16:130 (5,6,7,8) - etc
4. 00:01:796 (1) - rhythmsome parts have a really weird rhythm in this case the beats are mapped correctly with the exception that you are starting a slider in a not that prominent beat when you compared it to the tail and the repeat, just by grouping the rhythm differently it will represent the song better, for example you dont map a piano sound with a slider ending it on a cymbal, at this specific case using a circle + a 1/2 slider would represent better the different instrument in the song, grouping them together is ¨fine¨, but not awesome. Other example can be 02:09:352 - basically the active strong beats need a click action slider start or circle, weak beats can be mapped as passive beats slider ends
5. Hitsounding try to add more volume to some parts in the song, because actually some sections the hitsounds are barely audible (the hitsounds merge too well with the song/ volume is too low etc), the main task of hitsounding is to give players a feedback when clicking objects, so try too make them a bit more notables.
6. Slider shapes Usually weird slider shapes are fine, you can look at different mappers and get a better idea val0108, skystar etc, but your current ones are really not appropriate, first to all we have a really questionable ones, 00:16:907 (2) - for example as a BN I'll not agree with this kind of sliders in a beatmap, they are hard to read and looks random (not in a good way), 00:20:685 (2) - etc, I really hope you can take a look at some slider art to improve, since you have good ideas, but they need alot of polish
7. Anyways you have really nice ideas, but they need alot of work, mapping a really hard diff as this one require alot of experience at mapping or playing, I'd strongly suggest to you keep modding other people maps, playing and mapping more, so you can get more knowledge of how to build a diff like that. Can be done don't worry, is like riding a bike, once you got it you never forget.

1. 00:10:685 (1) -when you found this kind of situations, you want to add a spinner, but you can't add a hitsound the spinner start a good technique is to add a circle and start the spinner 1/4 or 1/8 later depending of bpm and difficulty lvl. That improve rhythm and hitsound, since you can't add hitsounds at the spinner start.
2. 00:15:130 (2,1) - overlapping sometimes can be good, but this kind of overlaps looks more like a mistake from the mapper than an intended pattern, so avoid overlapping unless it looks planned.
3. 00:29:352 (2) - usually you should add NCs to kiai start, also try to keep them consisten in a pattern around the map, ofc you can break them when something special in the music happen or when you try something new, but try to keep them consistent mostly, since they affect the HP drain, also your map looks more organized.
4. 01:23:574 (1) - this is the kind of sliders I want to see from you, weird, but looks cool and the curves are nice, is nice too see and u don't have a weird feeling when you play it.
5. 02:29:907 (4) - this is a special moment in the song! you did well at dividing 02:29:574 (1,2,3) - and 02:29:907 (4,5,6) - but also you can NC 02:29:907 (4) - to let the player know about it.

1. 00:15:574 - same rhythm problems as the other diffs.
2. 00:17:796 (1,2,3,4) - streams on hard diffs aren't that common thing to happen and the rhythm is so similar to the insane diff, reducing rhythm is also important when mapping a lower diff, for example a player will not find fun playing a hard with the same rhythm as the insane, but less spacing, so try to do variations double repeat sliders + circle work well with 5 beats streams.
3. 01:23:574 (1) - grats see!! this is awesome, go and make the overlaped ones awesome too.
4. This diff seems a lot better than the insane and both extras, but still some things from the previous input apply here too.

Natsu wrote:

yo

Nuts

1. Is this name related to the song?, or just a meme? This isn't a meme ;-; An acorn is a type of nut, and nuts can also mean crazy, which relates to the difficulty. Its a pun.
2. 00:10:241 (3) - unsnapped slider end Where did this come from lol (fixed)
3. 00:00:907 (3,4,5,6) - spacing ok lets start with this first, the spacing in this mapset sometimes looks chaotic, specially when you do circle patterns with different gaps in the timeline, for example 00:00:907 (3,4,5) - the 3 objects have the same spacing visually talking, but different gaps in the time line, you can argue someone can read this spacings and it's true, but they aren't intuitive to play and are super uncomfortable, so I'm strongly against them.
   People usually think extra diffs use a random spacing, but isn't true they follow a theme, pitch, lyrics, comboing etc. I have a hard time figuring some of your spacing in this diff, so I'll suggest you to take a look of some more extra diffs and change the spacing in this one to a more consistent one, consistent in this case doesn't mean the same spacing over and over, but to follow theme and apply that consistency to similar parts in the song, take as example 00:01:018 (4,5) redid this first part - vs 00:01:352 (6,7) same - , 00:16:130 (5,6,7,8) This particular one follows the pitch, and is appropriate because it leads to a pause in the song etc Okay, I'm going through parts where objects can use more consistency in spacing stuff like this part 00:38:241 and this part 00:21:574 and here 00:23:130 im adjusting for example. The outro turned out to be a mess in the spacing department so I went and fixed that too
4. 00:01:796 (1) - rhythmsome parts have a really weird rhythm in this case the beats are mapped correctly with the exception that you are starting a slider in a not that prominent beat when you compared it to the tail and the repeat, just by grouping the rhythm differently it will represent the song better, for example you dont map a piano sound with a slider ending it on a cymbal, at this specific case using a circle + a 1/2 slider would represent better the different instrument in the song, grouping them together is ¨fine¨, but not awesome. Other example can be 02:09:352 - basically the active strong beats need a click action slider start or circle, weak beats can be mapped as passive beats slider ends. In the example you posted, there is a big exaggeration on the lead here because it is on the drop of the song which places a large exaggeration on the lead (which you only hear in the chorus, as well). Here is the same idea 00:15:130 (2) - Besides for those two examples, I'm going back to see any stronger beats I should have mapped, or weaker beats I can disregard. For example 00:19:574 a slider here instead of 2 circles, and vise versa here 00:39:574 . I'm also deleting the hard to play and random 1/8 sliderends (with the exception of slider streams, which are appropriate), like here 02:14:241 and here 00:38:241
5. Hitsounding try to add more volume to some parts in the song, because actually some sections the hitsounds are barely audible (the hitsounds merge too well with the song/ volume is too low etc), the main task of hitsounding is to give players a feedback when clicking objects, so try too make them a bit more notables. I can agree that the hitsounds do merge with the song a little. I can make the hit-normal a little brighter to make it stand out more, everything else I will boost the volumes more just to make it more audible, to be sure
6. Slider shapes Usually weird slider shapes are fine, you can look at different mappers and get a better idea val0108, skystar etc, but your current ones are really not appropriate, first to all we have a really questionable ones, 00:16:907 (2) - for example as a BN I'll not agree with this kind of sliders in a beatmap, they are hard to read and looks random (not in a good way), 00:20:685 (2) - etc, I really hope you can take a look at some slider art to improve, since you have good ideas, but they need alot of polish They can use polish. But, the reason why I mapped the sliders like this in the first place is to fit the nature of the music in a eccentric type of way, as the song is eccentric itself. I will fine tune the sliders to make corners more visible, etc, but the shapes themselves are going to stay (Picture). If this is unrankable in anyway, please feel free to tell me.
7. Anyways you have really nice ideas, but they need alot of work, mapping a really hard diff as this one require alot of experience at mapping or playing(play more ), I'd strongly suggest to you keep modding other people maps, playing and mapping more, so you can get more knowledge of how to build a diff like that. Can be done don't worry, is like riding a bike, once you got it you never forget.Thank you! Ranking this map feels like a unicycle so far haha. I'm going to try to get to sp30 or so before I get another bn.

Extra

1. 00:10:685 (1) -when you found this kind of situations, you want to add a spinner, but you can't add a hitsound the spinner start a good technique is to add a circle and start the spinner 1/4 or 1/8 later depending of bpm and difficulty lvl. That improve rhythm and hitsound, since you can't add hitsounds at the spinner start. Just noticed this inconsistency. Fixed.
2. 00:15:130 (2,1) - overlapping sometimes can be good, but this kind of overlaps looks more like a mistake from the mapper than an intended pattern, so avoid overlapping unless it looks planned. I made it so that spacing decreased here anyways, so there is a better overlap on the sliderhead of one.
3. 00:29:352 (2) - usually you should add NCs to kiai start, also try to keep them consisten in a pattern around the map, ofc you can break them when something special in the music happen or when you try something new, but try to keep them consistent mostly, since they affect the HP drain, also your map looks more organized. The point you mentioned is okay, because the lead starts at 00:29:130 (1) but the beat itself starts at 00:29:352 - (where I NCed). I will go through the rest of the mapset looking for this though, because I can imagine I could miss something like this
4. 01:23:574 (1) - this is the kind of sliders I want to see from you, weird, but looks cool and the curves are nice, is nice too see and u don't have a weird feeling when you play it. Thank you! c: See slider mod response in NUTS diff.
5. 02:29:907 (4) - this is a special moment in the song! you did well at dividing 02:29:574 (1,2,3) - and 02:29:907 (4,5,6) - but also you can NC 02:29:907 (4) - to let the player know about it. Did this! I will probably have to do this in Insane diff too

Basically the same general comments for the 3 higher diffs, that were just general input so they apply too all the map in general. | | | Okay. I will go over general mods you gave for the 3 harder diffs in a future update, since if I did a general mod for 3 diffs right now that would take a while x.x

Hard

1. 00:15:574 - same rhythm problems as the other diffs.
2. 00:17:796 (1,2,3,4) - streams on hard diffs aren't that common thing to happen and the rhythm is so similar to the insane diff, reducing rhythm is also important when mapping a lower diff, for example a player will not find fun playing a hard with the same rhythm as the insane, but less spacing, so try to do variations double repeat sliders + circle work well with 5 beats streams. Fixed this one, going to go over more later with repeat sliders
3. 01:23:574 (1) - grats see!! this is awesome, go and make the overlaped ones awesome too. :)
4. This diff seems a lot better than the insane and both extras, but still some things from the previous input apply here too. Future mod

I'm super worry at the 3 hardest diff, especially at the nut one, I can point issue by issue, but that will end in a huge mod that repeat the same over and over, so I think a general advice is better in this case, anyways GL with this and keep improving

abanes16 wrote:

M4M

INSANE

00:13:796 (2) - stack with 00:12:463 (1,2,3,7) - Okay, done
00:15:130 (3) - change slider's chape.I dont know it's a bit uncomfortable It flows okay right now
00:24:463 (3) - put it in x:368 y:328 The back and forth is okay here

EXTRA

00:05:352 (3) - why noy make it like this Isn''t uncomfortable to play, shapes are more interesting too
01:35:463 (3) - add circle This is okay. Goes well with the snap

NUT

00:15:130 (2) - end slider at the white tick This is drawn out with the lead
00:21:574 (2) - move it a little higher Did this
00:34:907 (2) - - put it in here 00:34:685 (1) - and remove 00:34:685 (1) - Better like this. Mapped to the pitch, and if you listen closley it starts again at 00:34:907
01:08:463 (4,5) - make it something like this Shape repetitiveness is okay because of repetitive kick pattern

01:46:130 (3) - end this slider at the white tick Wow, done. And doing this for the other few snap beats that I missed also.

Good Luck