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Nardoxyribonucleic

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Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2016-07-05T12:38:45+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
Nardo's Futsuu

Absolutely awesome <3 I'm glad to hear that <3

Thanks for your check! Charlotte asked me about the General part of your mod, so I would like to post my thought here.

00:04:641 - this red line is essential because the metronome starts here, as evidenced by the big white line at 01:11:773 - where the kiai starts. So my suggestion would be to keep the red line at 00:04:641 - and do the red line shift.

Alternative solution: Just use one red line at 00:01:284 - . Then the prominent beats at 00:02:962 (3,4,5) - 00:16:389 (34,35,36) and 01:36:948 (236,237,238) - would be all in sync and the big white line at 01:11:773 - could be preserved.

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-07-05T15:47:25+00:00

Yep, Nardo's solution would work best. I'd recommend doing that

Charlotte

1,905 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Charlotte 2016-07-05T18:00:12+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
こんにちは、試験で遅くなってすみません。それが済んで漸く夏休みが’始まりました。夏休みの間に沢山モッドしたいと思っていま～すよろしくお願いします=w=/

General

00:00:864 - ここにタイミングポイントを置くのが最も正しいのでは？今は Kantan, Futsuu, Muzukashii 譜面で 00:01:494 (1,2) を白目盛りと合わせている結果、00:02:333 (2,3) の間に変な 1.5/1 リズムができています。タイミングポイントを 00:00:864 へ移動することで白目盛りの位置が動き、00:01:494 (1,2) も一緒に半拍前に移せばこの問題が解決できると思います。移動することで出だしのリズムを 00:14:710 (19,20,21,22,23) - 、01:35:270 (128,129,130,131,132) - と一貫することや、叩き易いリズムを作る利点がありますのでこの変更を強く勧めます。こうすると 00:04:641 のタイミングポイントは無必要になるのでそれも削除して下さい。もしかしたら、今のままじゃバブルできないかもしれません。 Nardoの提案で赤線一本引くことにしました。

Kantan

OD を 3 に下げるのはどうでしょう。OD curve が良くできてません。4-4-5-5で良いと思うのでno changeで。

00:18:906 (25) - 4/1 休息を作る為に削除？00:11:354 からのリズムがかなり長いです。削除した代わり、00:29:815 (41,42) の間に音符を追加して 00:32:333 (43) も削除できます。この方が 4/1 休息の間のリズムが同じぐらいの長さになります。少し長いかもしれませんが、同じ間隔のボーカルを無視して4/1休憩入れるよりも間奏のところで休憩取るほうが自然な気がします。

00:39:885 (54,55,56) - Ctrl + G して、00:41:564 (57) を k に変えたら 00:41:564 (57,58) - でボーカルをより良く拾えると思います。 fixed.

Oni

00:39:361 (194) - 00:38:941 に移動？00:31:808 (157,158,159,160,161) や 00:35:165 (173,174,175,176,177) と同じリズムが可能と思います。 fixed.

00:56:039 (281,282,283,284,285,286) - この 1/4 は少しやりすぎと思います。サークル 282 と 285 を削除して 00:56:669 (286) に finish を付けると良いインスト音取ができると思います。手前の1/4だけ残して後ろの1/4を1/2にしました。

01:08:417 (341) - Kantan では finish があったけどこっちの譜面ではインストを拾おうとしてるから finish がないんだよね？ですね。Kantanだと1/1-3連のけつに置いてるのでFinishが合うかと。

01:10:305 (352,353,354,355,356,357,358,359,360,361) - こんなリズムはどうでしょう：https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5541377
この方がインストをより正確に拾えてると思います。それにここが難しく感じたのでちょっとシンプルな形にしてみました。採用しました。

01:25:200 (437) - Finish 付け忘れてる？added!

以上です。Very nice map and song

改めて、遅くなってすみません。また連絡下さい。 Recheck します

Thank you mod

EdamaMe411

512 posts

Joined April 2014

EdamaMe411 2016-07-06T12:35:40+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
こんにちは、試験で遅くなってすみません。それが済んで漸く夏休みが’始まりました。夏休みの間に沢山モッドしたいと思っていま～すやんさん！おひさしぶり～！！！！！

General

00:00:864 - ここにタイミングポイントを置くのが最も正しいのでは？今は Kantan, Futsuu, Muzukashii 譜面で 00:01:494 (1,2) を白目盛りと合わせている結果、00:02:333 (2,3) の間に変な 1.5/1 リズムができています。タイミングポイントを 00:00:864 へ移動することで白目盛りの位置が動き、00:01:494 (1,2) も一緒に半拍前に移せばこの問題が解決できると思います。移動することで出だしのリズムを 00:14:710 (19,20,21,22,23) - 、01:35:270 (128,129,130,131,132) - と一貫することや、叩き易いリズムを作る利点がありますのでこの変更を強く勧めます。こうすると 00:04:641 のタイミングポイントは無必要になるのでそれも削除して下さい。もしかしたら、今のままじゃバブルできないかもしれません。

EM's Muzukashii

00:17:647 - Futsuu と Oni 譜面と良い difficulty curve を取る為にサークルを追加するのはどうでしょう。

00:44:920 (152) - 00:58:347 (199) と似てるこのサークルに Finish を付けましょう。

01:22:053 (289) - これを削除できると思います。01:15:340 と一貫させて、気合タイムの後半にある 01:28:766 (319) で後半の難易度を上げる効果が得られると思います。
すべて変更いたしました!
Edamame さんにも謝りたいです。Icicle Stinger の recheck がまだできて本当に申し訳ないです。待ちくたびれてるでしょうね。後少しでリクエストが全部できるのでそれまで待って頂けると助かります。
それとですが、セイシュンライナーを復活させようと思ってます。いい背景を見つけ、自分の譜面を改善し、ranked を再び目指そうと思ってます。正直、 Edamame さんの譜面を残しておきたいですが Mod に返信ができない状態でしたらマップセットから外します。もし返信ができないようでしたら連絡下さい。でも Edamame さんと一緒にマップセットを ranked にすることを期待しております! :3 そうですね、ずっと待ってるのでアイシクルスティンガー見てあげてくださいｗ青春ライナーまた見直しておくので、マップセットに残しておいてください！

以上です。Very nice map and song

改めて、遅くなってすみません。また連絡下さい。 Recheck します

Code

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Source:Wake Up, Girls!
Tags:Mayu Shimada Airi Hayashida Minami Katayama Yoshino Nanase Nanami Hisami Kaya Kikuma Miyu Okamoto EdamaMe411 Nardoxyribonucleic
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newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-07-07T18:22:41+00:00

麻婆豆腐を食べながら参りました :3

Kantan/Nardo's Futsuu/EM's Muzukashii

00:01:493 (1,2) - Now that the timing point has moved, I think it'd sound better if this rhythm shifted 1/2 a beat earlier to match the rhythm at 00:14:710 (19,20) and 01:35:270 (128,129). For the Muzukashii, there are some other possibilities as well.

Oni is fine, call me back

Nardoxyribonucleic

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3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2016-07-08T06:05:42+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
麻婆豆腐を食べながら参りました :3

Kantan/Nardo's Futsuu/EM's Muzukashii

00:01:493 (1,2) - Now that the timing point has moved, I think it'd sound better if this rhythm shifted 1/2 a beat earlier to match the rhythm at 00:14:710 (19,20) and 01:35:270 (128,129). For the Muzukashii, there are some other possibilities as well. I would prefer keeping the current positions as the stressed sounds occur at 00:01:493 and 00:02:332 - but not 1/2 earlier. I mapped the part at 00:14:710 (29,30,31,32,33) and 01:35:270 (231,232,233,234,235) - a way different from the prelude because of the variation in pace.

Oni is fine, call me back

Thanks again owo

Charlotte

1,905 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Charlotte 2016-07-08T13:07:26+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
麻婆豆腐を食べながら参りました :3 I like 麻婆豆腐.

Kantan/Nardo's Futsuu/EM's Muzukashii

00:01:493 (1,2) - Now that the timing point has moved, I think it'd sound better if this rhythm shifted 1/2 a beat earlier to match the rhythm at 00:14:710 (19,20) and 01:35:270 (128,129). For the Muzukashii, there are some other possibilities as well.

hmm...I prefer current pattern.so no change.

Oni is fine, call me back

Thank you check

EdamaMe411

512 posts

Joined April 2014

EdamaMe411 2016-07-09T02:43:44+00:00

newyams99 wrote:
麻婆豆腐を食べながら参りました :3

Kantan/Nardo's Futsuu/EM's Muzukashii

00:01:493 (1,2) - Now that the timing point has moved, I think it'd sound better if this rhythm shifted 1/2 a beat earlier to match the rhythm at 00:14:710 (19,20) and 01:35:270 (128,129). For the Muzukashii, there are some other possibilities as well.
お二人との統一を図るというものあったのでNo Change
Sorry,,

Oni is fine, call me back

Thank you!

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-07-11T01:15:41+00:00

Okie~

Bubbled!

Good luck

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-08-05T18:22:31+00:00

moo

bubble pop because of break issues in Muzukashii.

[Nardo's Futsuu]

00:01:493 (1,2) - considering 00:14:710 (29,30,31,32,33) - 01:35:270 (231,232,233,234,235) - I would suggest that you make small kat doublets here instead of big dons, for consistency's sake. Making the other two single big dons will be confusing to play.

00:46:179 (111) - As there are no vocals here, I'd suggest moving it to 00:47:018 - here so it is consistent with 00:43:661 (105) - . Maybe make it a don then, too.
> 00:49:535 (118) - ^ (or just delete it)
> 00:59:605 (143) - 01:02:962 (150) - --^

[EM's Muzukashii]

00:01:493 (2,3) - to be somewhat consistent with 01:35:270 (347,348,349,350,351,352) - (and 00:14:710 (45,46,47,48,49,50) - ) you could change this to KK 1/2 doublets.

00:17:647 (54) - Delete this to be consistent with 00:04:221 - . You must do this, this map needs more breaks to fit into the general definition of osu!taiko Muzukashiis.

00:19:535 (61) - I think it's much more interesting and fun to play if this note is 00:19:955 - here (http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5775788), for two reasons: 1) 00:20:165 (63,64,65) - this isn't so lonely anymore and fits to vocals better, 2) 00:18:067 (55,56) - stays unique. 00:19:745 (62,63) - should not be the same, so a note here helps.
> 00:22:892 (73) - move to 00:23:311 - and change to don, change 00:23:521 (75) - to kat (nicer rhythm and fits vocals)
> 00:26:668 - add don. Makes spread to Oni a little bit smaller too.
> 00:32:962 (110) - 00:36:318 (122) - 00:40:095 - same changes (move first two, add a kat on the 3rd)

> 01:13:242 (253) - Move 01:13:661 -
> 01:19:955 (281) - Move 01:20:374 -
> 01:26:668 (310) - Move 01:27:088 -
> 01:33:381 (339) - Move 01:33:801 -

00:32:752 (109) - To have a clearer rhythm (previously all of these were kats) I would suggest kat on this. It still is different from last time as it is dkk instead of ddk.
> 00:36:109 (121) - 00:39:465 (133) - ^
00:36:948 (124) - Might also be nicer as kat, for vocals.
00:40:304 (136) - too.

00:44:395 (150) - I really don't get the purpose of this note, would be better to remove it imo.
00:44:081 (149,150) - Actually I would even suggest to remove both - Muzukashii needs one more 2/1 break somewhere around here, and this spot seems good for that. Change 00:44:500 (151) - to kat then.

00:51:633 (175) - Change to big don, because of 00:54:990 (187) - .
00:53:311 (181) - ^ ?

01:05:479 (226) - Move this 01:05:689 - here to follow the song better. It will also makes this difficulty way more interesting to play, as there is finally a part that is not 1/1, it's a nice change.
01:06:318 (228) - Remove this note for the same reason, 3/2 is more interesting to play here.
01:07:158 (230) - Move 01:07:367 - here.

[Oni]

00:01:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - To be more consistent with 01:35:060 (490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499) - (and also 00:14:500 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79) - ) I would suggest changing it to this: http://puu.sh/qqVO2/1580e341a4.jpg --- maybe it might even be better if 2 and 6 are deleted (2 and 6 from the screenshot)

00:22:682 (111) - Changing this to kat has a nicer rhythm to me, fits to the last vocal line and similar sections.
00:29:815 (146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - Just a suggestion, but try kkk kkd kdd kdk here. It might fit to the pitch going down!

00:31:493 (158) - Could be a big don. (00:18:067 (88) - )

00:51:843 (259,261) - 00:52:682 (264,266) - It's probably personal preference, but I feel like this is too many notes - the vocals are distorted and overall the song is pretty quiet here and far less intense than 00:44:920 - to 00:50:374 - . Could be deleted.

00:51:633 (258) - 00:53:311 (268) - could be big dons again, but not necessary.

01:05:270 (325,326,327) - 01:06:109 (330,331,332) - Same, too many notes imo.

01:16:808 (391,392) - No 1/4 between these notes?

01:27:297 (450) - Don could flow nicer, dkkdk is kinda urgh

01:34:011 (486,487) - Would swap these two notes, making it kd.

Call me back when Muzukashii (and the rest) are fixed.

Nardoxyribonucleic

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Nardoxyribonucleic 2016-08-05T19:34:21+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
moo

bubble pop because of break issues in Muzukashii.

[Nardo's Futsuu]

00:01:493 (1,2) - considering 00:14:710 (29,30,31,32,33) - 01:35:270 (231,232,233,234,235) - I would suggest that you make small kat doublets here instead of big dons, for consistency's sake. Making the other two single big dons will be confusing to play. As a prelude I think it would be fine to have lower note density.

00:46:179 (111) - As there are no vocals here, I'd suggest moving it to 00:47:018 - here so it is consistent with 00:43:661 (105) - . Maybe make it a don then, too. fixed
> 00:49:535 (118) - ^ (or just delete it) moved to 00:50:584 - instead.
> 00:59:605 (143) - 01:02:962 (150) - --^ same as ^

Call me back when Muzukashii (and the rest) are fixed.

Thanks for your mod~

Update: https://puu.sh/qr1zB.rar

EdamaMe411

512 posts

Joined April 2014

EdamaMe411 2016-08-06T06:01:05+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
moo

bubble pop because of break issues in Muzukashii.

[EM's Muzukashii]

00:01:493 (2,3) - to be somewhat consistent with 01:35:270 (347,348,349,350,351,352) - (and 00:14:710 (45,46,47,48,49,50) - ) you could change this to KK 1/2 doublets.

00:17:647 (54) - Delete this to be consistent with 00:04:221 - . You must do this, this map needs more breaks to fit into the general definition of osu!taiko Muzukashiis.

00:19:535 (61) - I think it's much more interesting and fun to play if this note is 00:19:955 - here (http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5775788), for two reasons: 1) 00:20:165 (63,64,65) - this isn't so lonely anymore and fits to vocals better, 2) 00:18:067 (55,56) - stays unique. 00:19:745 (62,63) - should not be the same, so a note here helps.
> 00:22:892 (73) - move to 00:23:311 - and change to don, change 00:23:521 (75) - to kat (nicer rhythm and fits vocals)
> 00:26:668 - add don. Makes spread to Oni a little bit smaller too.
> 00:32:962 (110) - 00:36:318 (122) - 00:40:095 - same changes (move first two, add a kat on the 3rd)

> 01:13:242 (253) - Move 01:13:661 -
> 01:19:955 (281) - Move 01:20:374 -
> 01:26:668 (310) - Move 01:27:088 -
> 01:33:381 (339) - Move 01:33:801 -

00:32:752 (109) - To have a clearer rhythm (previously all of these were kats) I would suggest kat on this. It still is different from last time as it is dkk instead of ddk.
> 00:36:109 (121) - 00:39:465 (133) - ^
00:36:948 (124) - Might also be nicer as kat, for vocals.
00:40:304 (136) - too.

00:44:395 (150) - I really don't get the purpose of this note, would be better to remove it imo.　No,Because My map is constituted by the rhythm And,be consistent with 00:57:822 (200,201,202,203) -
00:44:081 (149,150) - Actually I would even suggest to remove both - Muzukashii needs one more 2/1 break somewhere around here, and this spot seems good for that. Change 00:44:500 (151) - to kat then.

00:51:633 (175) - Change to big don, because of 00:54:990 (187) - .
00:53:311 (181) - ^ ?

01:05:479 (226) - Move this 01:05:689 - here to follow the song better. It will also makes this difficulty way more interesting to play, as there is finally a part that is not 1/1, it's a nice change.
01:06:318 (228) - Remove this note for the same reason, 3/2 is more interesting to play here.
01:07:158 (230) - Move 01:07:367 - here.

The others point ALL fixed!!
Thank you!

Call me back when Muzukashii (and the rest) are fixed.

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Charlotte

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Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Charlotte 2016-08-06T14:29:47+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
moo

bubble pop because of break issues in Muzukashii.

[Oni]

00:01:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - To be more consistent with 01:35:060 (490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499) - (and also 00:14:500 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79) - ) I would suggest changing it to this: http://puu.sh/qqVO2/1580e341a4.jpg --- maybe it might even be better if 2 and 6 are deleted (2 and 6 from the screenshot)

I changed pattern

00:22:682 (111) - Changing this to kat has a nicer rhythm to me, fits to the last vocal line and similar sections. I think don is fit.
00:29:815 (146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - Just a suggestion, but try kkk kkd kdd kdk here. It might fit to the pitch going down! hmm...I prefer kkd kkd kkk kkk

00:31:493 (158) - Could be a big don. (00:18:067 (88) - ) fixed.

00:51:843 (259,261) - 00:52:682 (264,266) - It's probably personal preference, but I feel like this is too many notes - the vocals are distorted and overall the song is pretty quiet here and far less intense than 00:44:920 - to 00:50:374 - . Could be deleted. This part is fidelity to vocal.This diff is Oni.so I think good.

00:51:633 (258) - 00:53:311 (268) - could be big dons again, but not necessary. nope.

01:05:270 (325,326,327) - 01:06:109 (330,331,332) - Same, too many notes imo. I removed something notes.

01:16:808 (391,392) - No 1/4 between these notes? added

01:27:297 (450) - Don could flow nicer, dkkdk is kinda urgh change to ddkdk

01:34:011 (486,487) - Would swap these two notes, making it kd. fixed.

Call me back when Muzukashii (and the rest) are fixed.

Thank you mod

Last edited by Charlotte 2016-08-06T15:44:04+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-08-06T15:05:18+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
[EM's Muzukashii]
00:44:081 (149,150) - Actually I would even suggest to remove both - Muzukashii needs one more 2/1 break somewhere around here, and this spot seems good for that. Change 00:44:500 (151) - to kat then.

you left no comment on this so technically it should have been changed but it's not?

EdamaMe411

512 posts

Joined April 2014

EdamaMe411 2016-08-06T15:38:01+00:00

Nwolf wrote:
Nwolf wrote:
[EM's Muzukashii]
00:44:081 (149,150) - Actually I would even suggest to remove both - Muzukashii needs one more 2/1 break somewhere around here, and this spot seems good for that. Change 00:44:500 (151) - to kat then.
　No,Because My map is constituted by the rhythm And,be consistent with 00:57:822 (200,201,202,203) -

you left no comment on this so technically it should have been changed but it's not?

You're right,,,,,,,sorry just missing

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-08-06T17:02:24+00:00

wb bubble

!summon newyams

newyams99

694 posts

Joined December 2013

newyams99 2016-08-08T02:20:44+00:00

O perhaps I was too lenient with the lack of 2/1 in the Muzu (tbh I think I'm always too lenient with everything, gotta fix that lol). Thought the low BPM would allow it, but playability comes first

Anyways, looks like the Muzu's toned down and the other diffs look good so I'll go ahead and qualify~

Qualified!

Volta

1,622 posts

Joined March 2014

Volta 2016-08-08T03:15:42+00:00

congratz!

but perhaps artist should be I-1club