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loveFantasy wrote:

C R E A M wrote:

Hello. I want this one to be ranked. Awesome song~ I love it.
Actually I planned to make this one as beatmap... after my WIP one is finished.

Seems this one is too long. There is a shorter one (tv size) which is used in MAIKAZE Anime.
Anyway, my star is here~
yep, this is a full version of the song, i did consider making tv size one, but the final decision is as you see :P
thank you for the star
I see. I hope to play ranked one of this map. Good luck~
Card N'FoRcE
- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)
  • Offset -5ms
- Normal:
  1. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    02:13:053 (1) - add the same Finish as 00:23:487 (1)
    02:37:183 (1) - add the same Finish as 00:45:009 (1)
- Yuki's Hard:
  1. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    01:51:205 (1) - make it end at 01:54:792
    03:36:857 (5,6) - reverse them? that jump feels weird, the regular pattern looks so much better...
  2. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    I know what you're doing with those 1/4 at the beginning and the end :>
    They're fine, but 00:43:705 (2,3) is the only one that's really easy to misread due to the song (i could explain but it would take a while), so please fix it.
    Also, 69 Unsnapped notes.
- Love:
  1. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:23:487 (1) - add the Finish like in Normal
    02:13:053 (1) - ^ (or if you don't like the Finish at least remove it from Normal as well)
    04:23:813 (1) - ^
    01:16:966 - add a beat here. It's easy to misread 01:17:129 (1) because of this.
Komeiji Yuki

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)
  • Offset -5ms

Not sure LF Change it or not . 如果還沒換的話請幫我換一下吧

- Yuki's Hard:
  1. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    01:51:205 (1) - make it end at 01:54:792
    Done~
    03:36:857 (5,6) - reverse them? that jump feels weird, the regular pattern looks so much better...
    Change
  2. .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    I know what you're doing with those 1/4 at the beginning and the end :>
    o.o?
    They're fine, but 00:43:705 (2,3) is the only one that's really easy to misread due to the song (i could explain but it would take a while), so please fix it.
    Fix . Also make the previous circle(1) and this slider (2) into a reverse slider
    I think it's better to play now >:( "
    Also, 69 Unsnapped notes.
    Done~


Thx for modding :3~~
Download: Sasha Asuka - Meguri Meguru (loveFantasy) [Yuki's Hard].osu
Selee
[Normal]

  • 01:39:050 (T) - useless timeline, delete?
    02:26:096 (4) - Remove whistle?
    03:08:161 (1) - Starts at 03:07:835?
[Yuki's Hard]

Just some suggestions XD

  • 00:45:661 (6) - Add whistle end or add a repeat?
    00:48:270 (5) - ^
    01:05:390 (4,5) - Stacking
    01:18:270 (10) - Remove the finish at repeat?
    01:25:770 (1) - Stacking
    02:24:140 (X) - add a note?
    03:22:835 (1) - add clap?
    03:34:574 (5) - clap end?
[Love]

Circle size-1? I have to keep my eyes on notes rather listen to the music...Changing the circle size would not affect points either...

  • 01:37:835 (3,4) - =_=b the spacing is really confusing
    03:13:053 (2,3,4) - ^
    04:02:618 (11) - move to y-axis?
Nicely done, star
Topic Starter
loveFantasy

Selee wrote:

[Normal]

  • 01:39:050 (T) - useless timeline, delete? fixed
    02:26:096 (4) - Remove whistle? rearrange whistle in this combo instead
    03:08:161 (1) - Starts at 03:07:835? fixed
also rearranged some hitsound after 03:08:161..

[Love]

Circle size-1? I have to keep my eyes on notes rather listen to the music...Changing the circle size would not affect points either... no

  • 01:37:835 (3,4) - =_=b the spacing is really confusing bpm is low so i think that's acceptable
    03:13:053 (2,3,4) - ^ same reason
    04:02:618 (11) - move to y-axis? rearranged and placed on y-axis now
Nicely done, star
a random modder! thank you very much
Topic Starter
loveFantasy
oh my god i missed this :o


Card N'FoRcE wrote:

- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)
  • Offset -5ms
i need to discuss this with more people, since many BATs/MATs/modders who i know them are good at timing has different opinion (they're all +5 ~ -5 though), it's changed to 5224 atm.
- Normal:
  1. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    02:13:053 (1) - add the same Finish as 00:23:487 (1) done
    02:37:183 (1) - add the same Finish as 00:45:009 (1) done
- Love:
  1. .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:23:487 (1) - add the Finish like in Normal done
    02:13:053 (1) - ^ (or if you don't like the Finish at least remove it from Normal as well) done
    04:23:813 (1) - ^ < remove whistle..it has finish on it already
    01:16:966 - add a beat here. It's easy to misread 01:17:129 (1) because of this.done

thank you again

guest diff updated.
Komeiji Yuki

Selee wrote:

[Yuki's Hard]

Just some suggestions XD

  • 00:45:661 (6) - Add whistle end or add a repeat?
    prefer add whistle (both sounds good)


    00:48:270 (5) - ^
    ^

    01:05:390 (4,5) - Stacking
    Done

    01:18:270 (10) - Remove the finish at repeat?
    ok...since lots of modders advise it

    01:25:770 (1) - Stacking
    Done

    02:24:140 (X) - add a note?
    Add

    03:22:835 (1) - add clap?
    Done

    03:34:574 (5) - clap end?
    Done
Thanks for modding ~ :3

BTW

⡓⡓⡢⡥⡶⡶⠗⠒⠂(פ'д 'פ) <shoot

明天換我生日 :D

Download: Sasha Asuka - Meguri Meguru (loveFantasy) [Yuki's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
loveFantasy
ok it's 4/10 now

guest diff updated and Happy Birthday!
Komeiji Yuki

loveFantasy wrote:

ok it's 4/10 now

guest diff updated and Happy Birthday!
Thanks :D
qinche
OvO/妹子王二代
Card N'FoRcE
Whooosh.
Topic Starter
loveFantasy
@qinche: thanks star <3

i love you CNF

EDIT: pop the bubble myself..did a minus fix, should fit more now:
SliderBorder : 16,16,16
SliderBorder : 48,48,48
Alace
Not yet

<Yuki>
01:03:919 (5) - i think this is a bad spacing, is it better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/76575 ?

<Love>
01:37:832 (3,4) - bad spacing IMO

題外話,因為歌曲慢可能不造成攻略上的問題,不過其實每個短來回slider的次數都有點不太一樣,玩起來不太直觀
要一直看著後面note的縮圈圈來判斷該鬆手的時機,這問題我在2009年作map也常有,有個人跟我提過後我在之後
作map都會特別住意一下了
Topic Starter
loveFantasy

Alace wrote:

<Love>
01:37:832 (3,4) - bad spacing IMO fixed since many had mentioned and now you :(

題外話,因為歌曲慢可能不造成攻略上的問題,不過其實每個短來回slider的次數都有點不太一樣,玩起來不太直觀
要一直看著後面note的縮圈圈來判斷該鬆手的時機,這問題我在2009年作map也常有,有個人跟我提過後我在之後
作map都會特別住意一下了 talked on irc, thanks for suggestion
Komeiji Yuki

Alace wrote:

<Yuki>
01:03:919 (5) - i think this is a bad spacing, is it better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/76575 ?

fix
抱歉...可能誤動到了....>_<(面壁思過

thanks for modding :3

Download: Sasha Asuka - Meguri Meguru (loveFantasy) [Yuki's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
loveFantasy

Komeiji Yuki wrote:

Alace wrote:

<Yuki>
01:03:919 (5) - i think this is a bad spacing, is it better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/76575 ?

fix
抱歉...可能誤動到了....>_<(面壁思過
thanks for modding :3
01:05:876 (5) - not perfectly stack
fixed directly by me (talked on irc)

uploaded, ready now!
Alace
Yoshi
_Kiva
\ 0 / 一张善良的好图
Axey
:P 如果泡被戳了再mod吧

good luck
Kyonko Hizara
:)
Rucker
:D
Topic Starter
loveFantasy
>BakaHuang, KyonkoHizara, Rucker
thanks for star!
-Moccha_chii-
:)
JoJo
Cute song~Cute map~Cute mapper~XD
Topic Starter
loveFantasy
> -Moccha_chii-, Joshua Lost
thank stars :D
Kotone
好曲子
Sandpig
:)
Topic Starter
loveFantasy
> bakaying and bakapig
thank for stars
Topic Starter
loveFantasy
popped the bubble to fix the SliderBorder color in [Love], somehow missed it in last update
SliderBorder : 16,16,16 --> SliderBorder : 48,48,48

ready again

EDIT2: to BAT/MAT: don't bubble this map, the osu! resizing mechanism ruins my skin a little bit at combo counter part (the one at bottom-left corner), i'll fix it ASAP
EDIT3: fixed, please redownload if downloaded before 2011/ 5/14 10:30 GMT

change i had done:
cut the transparency on top side and bottom side of score- elements, now the ugly white border appeared at top side is fixed, i try everything but i can't fix ones appeared at right side (it's less obvious anyway), note that some score- elements now has different height from others, i'm not sure if this is unrankable but i double checked it didn't bring any weird visual effect so i think i'm ready, just tell me if it's indeed unrankable.

wait for rebubble now


i give up ranking it anyway
move back to WIP since i love this song so much, so i'm going to make the map better

reworking on skin now

EDIT4: done skin, all ugly white border/noise are gone, fonts are consistent. (except hit0, hit50.. and skip/menu button, i'll keep them) also 紗沙飛鳥 --> 沙紗飛鳥 in creator's word, will fix storyboard tomorrow
Kotone
lol many pink star
Topic Starter
loveFantasy
during remaking the storyboard, i notice that storyboard timeline is off 2~25ms from white ticks, probably because i make them before yongtw123 correct my BPM (92.02 --> 92.00), they're all snapped correctly now

add some new storyboard elements, re-layout the storyboard during 2nd break time (song/map info part)

fix a coding error that cause some adjoining lyric elements to blink for a short period
fix some circle/slider that are not perfectly stacked

i'll run a full check on all diff and maybe do some minor hitsound fix later and i'll call it finished...again

PLEASE RE-DOWNLOAD IF DOWNLOADED BEFORE 5/15 05:30 GMT

EDIT:
did some minor hitsound arrangement in [Normal].
i also noticed that most of the greenline is 3ms late, guess that's because i didn't know how to move all green line together when applying CNF's -5ms offset suggestion mod, they're all snapped correctly now.
the unsnapped green line is made half year ago (the time green line bug haven't been fixed) so i won't bother fixing them all since they won't effect gameplay nor cause any bugs. EDIT2: ALL SNAPPED NOW

i'm kind of sad that i found so much error myself but no one (including me) didn't even pop my bubble for a whole month, i'm way too careless after getting my 1st bubble in the osu! life, should have checked the map for few more times :?

finished...
Takos
so many stars...
it looks pretty good, hope it gets ranked! ><
DarkRingSystem
8-) 瞎了 这么整齐的星星海

little suggests
[color]
SPOILER
我表示后面3个色差不大 色盲我不能分辨XD

[love]
01:41:745 (10) - 减少一个来回 之后加上一个note
01:43:050 (3) - ^
01:44:354 (3) - ^
01:45:658 (3) - ^

这样打起来舒服些 而且音效上也好点

star XD

orz 原来star 过了 那再star XD
Topic Starter
loveFantasy

DarkRingSystem wrote:

little suggests
...
和幾個人討論後, 把黃色改成了靈夢色
折返slider的部分沒改, 實際上有某個版本是類似你想要的那個樣子, 最後我決定此處我最喜歡現在這樣

感謝kd star和mod
Kanon
如此认真的MAPPER,只能佩服了。。。☆~~
Miu Matsuoka
:D
JLTChiu
gogo
Lizbeth
Love
03:04:408 (8) - in rhythm terms i think fits better if you move this to the next white tick (adjust things on chart if you do ofc)
03:10:441 (1,2) - odd spacing there... I think you should place it closer to slider end
03:18:593 (4) - new combo maybe? is just that i think the previous three circles should have their own combo~~
03:45:658 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't know, this threw me off while playing it. If you see the whole thing is technically correct, but how you place it, and these being "doubles" placed in a way you see 6 circles at the same distance is kinda confusing... just saying what i feel while playing it. You choose what to do~
I don't understand why you go back to the small distance when comes the last kiai section, makes more sense for me if you increase the distance in the kiai, being the kiai an effect to remark the most dynamic part of the song in my opinion. Again: is technically correct, but just feels odd and is your choose how to manage it :3

Yuki's Hard
00:28:702 (3,4) - ;_; I don't know but totally threw me off.
00:31:310 (4,5) - I think I didn't messed up here cuz i remembered the previous case XD
01:24:463 (4,5,6,7,8) - maybe unstack it from prev slider end??
03:34:571 (5) - remove the repeat and move it to next blue tick, i think fits better and match the pattern you follow.

Normal is pretty good :3

Good luck~~~
Topic Starter
loveFantasy

Lizbeth wrote:

Love
03:04:408 (8) - in rhythm terms i think fits better if you move this to the next white tick (adjust things on chart if you do ofc)
fixed
03:10:441 (1,2) - odd spacing there... I think you should place it closer to slider end
i want to keep it :>
03:18:593 (4) - new combo maybe? is just that i think the previous three circles should have their own combo~~
new combo and also make the spacing between those three circles the same
03:45:658 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't know, this threw me off while playing it. If you see the whole thing is technically correct, but how you place it, and these being "doubles" placed in a way you see 6 circles at the same distance is kinda confusing... just saying what i feel while playing it. You choose what to do~
hmm, though i like those, after discussing with some testplayers...fixed
I don't understand why you go back to the small distance when comes the last kiai section, makes more sense for me if you increase the distance in the kiai, being the kiai an effect to remark the most dynamic part of the song in my opinion. Again: is technically correct, but just feels odd and is your choose how to manage it :3
we move the KIAI (in all diff) to 03:45~04:04 (we think this chorus part is stronger than 04:05~04:23, that's why i originally use larger spacing in 03:45~04:04 and use KIAI in 04:05~04:23, seems it doesn't fit much :o )
about the green lines, i asked Alace again and he said it's ok.

thanks o/

will update together with guestdiff fix
Komeiji Yuki

Lizbeth wrote:

Yuki's Hard
00:28:702 (3,4) - ;_; I don't know but totally threw me off.
00:31:310 (4,5) - I think I didn't messed up here cuz i remembered the previous case XD
Maybe I shouldn't make jumps :?

01:24:463 (4,5,6,7,8) - maybe unstack it from prev slider end??
Done

03:34:571 (5) - remove the repeat and move it to next blue tick, i think fits better and match the pattern you follow.
Done
thx for your modding~ o.o/


EDIT:also change something that I think they can improve


---------------
SPOILER
00:33:593 (3) - 2 short sliders >> 1 long slider

01:04:897 (3) - 2 short sliders >> 1 repeat slider + 1 circle

01:36:528 (2) - 1 circle >> 1 slider

01:37:995 (3) - 2 circles >> 1 slider

02:23:158 (3) - 2 short sliders >> 1 long slider

02:33:593 (3) - 2 short sliders >> 1 slider + 1 circle

03:05:223 (2) - 1 circle >> 1 slider

03:06:691 (4) - 2 circles >> 1 slider

03:19:245 - 03:22:832 - Remap

03:31:637 (2) - 2 short sliders >> 1 circle + 1 repeat slider

Download: Sasha Asuka - Meguri Meguru (loveFantasy) [Yuki's Hard].osu
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