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yes... a ranking for maps like niconico weekly or vocaloid weekly, not only a "map rating" which been said useless or meaningless, i'd like to see if we can take several things into accout together:
plays, rating, favourites, upvotes and downvotes.

we counts how many those things improved in a week (or a month, just saying) and cauculate it as follow:

map point = (plays + favourites*1000+ (upvotes-downvotes)*A)*B

A = upvotes/total votes * 50
B = rating-7, but at least B=1, means if a map get <8 rating, B=1.

assume there are2 maps, X and Y,
X gain 20,000 plays, 5 favourites, 120 upvotes and 30 downvotes, rating=8.5
Y gain 10,000 plays, 2 favoutites, 50 upvotes and 0 downvotes, rating=9.8

X get a map point = (20000 + 5000 + 3600) *1.5 = 42900
Y get a map point = (10000 + 2000 + 2500) *2.8 = 40600

X wins.

what i want to say is if no one cares a map, play it just for its score, rate it a 9 or 10 for it's not bad or it's easy to get a S, can we say it's a good map?

i know this can't be a nice judge for all maps but i guess most.
also, as a mapper i'd like to see where my maps go instead of look at a "mapper ranking", the only thing i could know from it is i need to make more maps so my rating will increase 0.03 or 0.04 for every ranked map.

opinions?
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The idea is pretty good, but since most plays are from massing retries because of a single miss/100... plus that a map is popular doesn't mean it's good.
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Wishy22 wrote:

The idea is pretty good, but since most plays are from massing retries because of a single miss/100... plus that a map is popular doesn't mean it's good.
a popular map usually is the better one compared to a map that nobody cares, by the way, as i know multiplay is a large part of total plays.
yes, i agree there are exceptions, just think it's a better way to judge.
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NatsumeRin wrote:

... or vocaloid weekly...
God I love those *-*

Oh yeah, I don't think it might work.

The main problem is not that the current system wont work, it is that a large portion of people vote/downvote based on the song, not on the map. Same happens to plays (lol bad apple), and favourites.

It would be a great idea if not, btw, if has a lot of thought put into it

(lol ilu rin >w<)
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Krisom wrote:

NatsumeRin wrote:

... or vocaloid weekly...
God I love those *-*

Oh yeah, I don't think it might work.

The main problem is not that the current system wont work, it is that a large portion of people vote/downvote based on the song, not on the map. Same happens to plays (lol bad apple), and favourites.

It would be a great idea if not, btw, if has a lot of thought put into it

(lol ilu rin >w<)
yes... that happens to some maps, i just thought people will mention them before me hahah. but as i can see, rating is the one that depends on the song most (well, sometimes even myself), usually it's easier to be addicted to a map than addicted just to a simple song (also a reason of that i don't agree "one map for one song")
this would change something... or at least a fun ranking that i'd like to see (hey that's the main reason!).
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So instead of taking in user rating, we're taking in other data that is just as useless and meaningless. I certainly don't think this a good way of going about it.
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Jarby wrote:

So instead of taking in user rating, we're taking in other data that is just as useless and meaningless. I certainly don't think this a good way of going about it.
where's "as useless and meaningless", i would try not to be offending, but:
"the map get a damn low rating, few guys really favourites it, just say wow it's good because it's a joke map and get ranked, nobody likes to play it, since the song is even joking, ok and it's still a good map."
serious?

before getting more jokes into serious things, there's much more serious things can be done, and joke is not a reason to deny them.

the main idea is: a good map will earn point for its playing well so people would play it more and favourite more, it describes better what a map likes than a simply rating.
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NatsumeRin wrote:

the main idea is: a good map will earn point for its playing well so people would play it more and favourite more, it describes better what a map likes than a simply rating.
What I'm saying here is that play count and favourites are not good indicators of map quality. Notice how you rarely ever see English pop songs up as most played? It's not because they're mapped badly or that they aren't mapped at all, it's because Touhou songs, anime songs and the like are overwhelming popular in the community. They will typically be played more and favourited more just for the sake of them even existing as ranked maps. Even if you were trying to set up this system as "maps the community like because of their affixation with otaku music", it would be pointless because the current statistics shown accurately.

Don't you think the ranking charts are enough? They serve the same basic purpose.
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