Kanawo - Kohaku no Yume [CatchTheBeat|Taiko] · forum

MBomb

MBomb 2016-05-09T17:55:51+00:00

Call me back when I'm needed.

My bad, I did have a few issues about the salad myself but I thought they were probably just more of a style difference, but I agree with a lot of what JBH said.

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Surono 2016-05-09T17:59:26+00:00

YEAH THIS Wath happen, Ludahapi sialan!! >:C p/5113290 ~~fuq yu behaviour I will delete u~~ jk lol :\

gini dah orang pake sok2an ngerasa diffnya ga bermaslah :U udah diberi sugesti yang lojis di bales pake EGO :V ccd bener :\/

Momota

270 posts

Joined February 2014

Momota 2016-05-09T18:51:05+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Saw this was qualified after not knowing anything about it and decided to check it out - I have a few points I wanted to ask about before this gets a full rank.

Additionally in momot's Platter
00:30:697 (5,6,7) - Minor, but the slight angle on (6) and the lack of spacing between (5,6) creates an awkward flow-stop for me that makes it very easy to dash too early and miss (6)'s tail. I'd prefer if there was a bit more spacing here and (6) was made vertical applied, the ryuuta must move little on slider
00:43:197 (9,1) - Shouldn't NC be on (9) for the downbeat and strong cymbal sound? applied, and repair nc before this pattern, there is just 2 note nc ;w;
Only two hypers in the whole kiai hmm? 01:12:031 (3,1) - 01:20:197 (3,1) - make good candidates for the stronger, high-pitched piano sound, I wouldn't ignore these i think the hard part is like this pattern 01:15:531 - if i add hdash on 01:12:031 (3,1) - 01:20:197 (3,1) i must add dash on this 01:22:864 (4,5) - 01:09:531(3,1) - and look too much hdash i think, so i keep small dash on that part for now maybe
Cup and Rain are both very nice, but Salad could really use some further polishing imo.

thanks 4 mod btw JBH, i dont know nc allowed only one note ;w;

gogoo rankd agensto

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Last edited by Momota 2016-05-09T18:57:51+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Deif

Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon

3,564 posts

Joined April 2010

Deif 2016-05-09T18:53:02+00:00

The addressed issues are valid. You might look for more feedback at least to improve the Salad difficulty and probably get more checks for the rest.

Good luck!

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Surono 2016-05-09T19:07:42+00:00

Thank you, Deif!

Updated platter and call the salad mapper

Last edited by Surono 2016-05-09T21:47:41+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Yaminoma

498 posts

Joined October 2014

Yaminoma 2016-05-09T20:31:58+00:00

jej

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-05-09T20:34:06+00:00

Welp let's take a look here. Overall I was pretty disappointed about the response I got to the last mod I made on the salad, which consisted of responses that were inadequate or rejections without any information as to WHY they were rejected. Hopefully, the DQ made you realize that the difficulty isn't good right now, and that things will really need to be fixed. Most specifically, the dashes.

[

Prof. Gila's Salad]

General

00:03:197 (3,1,2) - Not a big fan of this stack here, the catcher should really be moving constantly, and this is a good place to start. Ctrl+g'ing 00:03:531 (1,2,3,4) - would make for a dash addition and some added movement, which is needed here, in my opinion.
00:05:864 (3) - You could really add a dash to here. The note is really high and could use some more movement besides a walking distance.
00:11:197 (1,1) - I don't know why these have such strong notes on slider ends. You'd be much better off making these 1/2 sliders with a circle on where the slider USED to end. That way, the note becomes more emphasized, rather than just another object in a slider. You could also make dashes to them, also.
00:13:531 (4,1) - Adding some distance (or a dash) between here would be nice due to the heavier piano layer which is added on this note for more emphasis.
00:15:531 (2,3,4) - This is a really weird decline, I think making them evenly spaced would help the pattern look a little cleaner in my opinion. Also, maybe some added distance at 00:15:531 (2,3) - to compliment the finisher could be nice.
00:17:197 (3) - Same fix as before with a 1/2 slider and a note. You're really missing a strong beat on these red ticks by having these long sliders, and by switching these patterns a bit, you can help the rhythm out with more close interpretation.
00:19:864 (2) - Tilting this to the right and forcing a dash to 00:20:531 (3) - would be a great way to set up the next section of music here, rather than make the whole distance walkable.
00:24:531 (3,4) - These distances are really quite close, which makes the difficulty feel a bit squished. Try adding a dash between 00:24:364 (2,3) - and moving 00:24:864 (4) - more to the right, making it horizontal so it plays better out of the previous dash pattern.
00:25:364 (5,6) - A dash to 6 could be nice too, since the piano is REALLY strong here!
00:27:197 (3,1,2,3) - This whole pattern is cramped on the right grid, you should really add some spacing here to make the difficulty less restricting, and allowing the catcher to move a bit more, rather than making it sharp and choppy.
00:32:864 (1,2,3) - The pattern is really wrong, since you have the dash going to 00:33:364 (3) - when the strong note is at 00:33:197 (2) - . I'd suggest moving (2) to the right alongside (3) and rework the distances to that the dash is kept, but the pattern is more comfortable.
00:35:531 (3,4,5) - Same here, really. It also doesn't help that 00:34:864 (1,2,3) - are so close to each other. I'd suggest reworking the entire pattern here to ensure there is more constant movement and good flow, by taking the suggestion I did earlier about the strong note being alongside the slider after the dash.
00:37:864 (2,3,4) - Why are these stacked? (3,4) should be farther away from 2 due to their stronger notation in the music, if anything. Move these away and give some distance here, it feels too close.
00:50:864 (8,1) - Really strong note on 1, adding a dash would be really recommended here
00:52:531 (5) - NC this for the new line, and add some distance between this and the previous note.
Additionally, adding some dash between 00:52:864 (6,7,8) - would be really good since the notes pick up emphasis here and it could be nice leading up to the kiai.
00:53:864 (1,3,1,3) - All these 1/1 sliders should be changed to match the emphasis of the song, as stated above. I think there's room for improvement in these patterns as well, with them being a bit too cramped.
01:00:864 (4) - ctrl+h'ing this works REALLY well here, since it gives room for the catcher to move, and creates a nice jump.
JBHyperion pointed out a lot of stuff in the kiai so I'll let this be for now. Please take your time to reconsider this difficulty and don't be stubborn when accepting stuff. If you're going to deny anything, please give a REASON to why you're denying it, and make it a good reason. I don't want to come back here after another Qualify and write the same stuff.

gl here

Surono

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Topic Starter

Surono 2016-05-09T21:40:12+00:00

furr of shiid

gw cuma kasian kalau gw balikin ni kata2

nothing on here, dont kill spirit the mapper...

Volta

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Joined March 2014

Volta 2016-05-09T23:22:50+00:00

ditinggal tidur udah sempet qualify dan dq o_o
they're not killing the mapper's spirit. they just want to improve the diff. i was also discouraged by the salad mapper's responses. stop being stubborn and try to accept mods.

trus sur mungkin lu nya aja yang gak bisa masang sv di tacos wokwokw. boleh kok garis merah sama ijo numpuk asal volumenya sama. keliatan bagus padahal kalo masang 1.13x

MBomb

MBomb 2016-05-10T00:05:45+00:00

Also I did ask ascendance to post on thread, so if anyone should be blamed for his post, it's me.

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,578 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2016-05-10T00:13:57+00:00

If you need some help, feel free to call me too

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-05-10T00:34:14+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Also I did ask ascendance to post on thread, so if anyone should be blamed for his post, it's me.

Why would anyone "blame" someone who is trying to help improve the map? No-one is trying to derail the thread or spite the mappers... Quite the opposite in fact.

As long as the suggestions continue to help improve and polish the map, more mods and more time in Pending is a GOOD THING.

Professor Gila

644 posts

Joined December 2014

Professor Gila 2016-05-10T01:05:13+00:00

Oh wow i just couldn't see what happened yesterday dem ma inet got dc'd suddenly again

yea fine i apologize for every modders around here, especially i refused the mod for "no reason". I'm just learning here just to get the experience, especially how 2 accept the mod, but it wouldn't be wise to accept them all so, gimme some time for that

If i could get online again, i fix them but tell me where to start ._.

Professor Gila

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Professor Gila 2016-05-10T01:08:30+00:00

(Intended to double post)

Remember my traits on my userpage how i behave) ._.

Professor Gila

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Professor Gila 2016-05-10T01:09:26+00:00

(Intended to double post)

Remember my traits on my userpage how i behave) ._.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

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Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-05-10T03:25:39+00:00

Hey there. I should apologize for being a bit rude with my words, I think maybe they came across too mean. I really would love too see this set improved, it's really a nice song. I don't intend on crushing mapper spirits ^^

If you want me to take another look before requalifying, have a nominator poke me and I'll see what I can do.

Good luck to everyone here

PatZar

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PatZar 2016-05-10T06:45:21+00:00

WAKWAKKAWKWAKWAKKAWKAWK :v

Professor Gila

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Professor Gila 2016-05-10T11:13:15+00:00

but still, i may respond mods "inappropriately" due to my traits ._.

JBHyperion wrote:
Prof. Gila's Salad

My main issue with this diff is how dash is used. Outside of the kiai there are only a handful of dashes and these are nearly all borderline 1/4 jumps which are very challenging to read and annoying to play. There are plenty of good spots to add easy 1/2 dash that were ignored, such as 00:18:864 (3,1) - 00:39:531 (6,7) - 00:40:197 (8,1) - 00:42:864 (6,1) - and so on. Without these, the diff essentially feels like a Cup with a handful of annoying 1/4 dashes thrown in (see below)
00:03:697 (2,3) - Spacing is very close to requiring dash, could confuse new players as they are unsure whether to dash or not. I'd increase this distance a little (if dash is intended) | yea yea
00:10:197 (1,2) - For a diff that's intended to introduce dashing, it's very strange that the first dash is a very sharp 1/4 spacing. This will be seriously unexpected for players of this difficulty - Making (1) a circle instead of 1/4 slider to create a 1/2 dash would be best in this situation, but if you must keep the 1/4 dash, (1) should probably be vertical and the overall spacing much less, something like 3.5x instead of the 5.1x you have currently, as demonstrated at 00:40:864 (2,3) | 3.2x?
00:31:531 (5,1) - As above, slanted 1/4 sliders leading into dash is highly likely to confuse new players, and this spacing is even more sharp than the first one | making them close
00:32:864 (1,2,3) - Why dash to (3) when the strong drum sound is on (2)? You repeat this throughout such as 00:35:864 (4,5) - 00:38:197 (3,4) - presumably for following the piano pitch, but it's so hard to follow when the drum sounds are that much more prominent | in case to get the feedback to dash after hearing the drum sound, i prefer make them dash (hope this part isn't an awkward part)
00:58:864 (4,1,2,3) - This is much better as it uses more comfortable but still interesting 1/2 dash patterns, why didn't you do this more often earlier in the song? ): | i don't think about it (i just mapped the song whatsoever)
01:09:197 (2,3,4) - Why is the dash to (3) when the strong sound with cymbal is on the next note (4)? Leaves this feeling very underemphasized and awkward to play. | distance 01:09:197 (2) is rearranged, overall, i rearranged the distances a bit
01:12:030 (6,7,1) - For the strong cymbal sound, 1/2 dash to the slider (1) would be both more appropriate for the difficulty and fitting to the rhythm | yeah fixed
01:14:864 (5,6) - Again, where's the dash for the strong cymbal sound here? There's so much emphasis lost here by mapping this as a normal movement like the surrounding weaker sounds | i don't mean for that part to make a dash here
01:17:531 (5,1) - ^ etc. (there are quite a few of these...) | same case as above

TREAK TREAKKAN PAKE EFEK DISTORSI SAMPE MAMPUS

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Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Surono 2016-05-10T13:01:30+00:00

edit:

thanks lidahapi for your consciousness

23:54 Surono: ohh
23:54 Surono: oke..
23:54 Surono: jadi itu sebenarnya lu off>
23:55 Professor Gila: tadi
23:55 Professor Gila: billing di warnet udah tinggal dikit lagi
23:56 Professor Gila: dan gak bakal sempat buat on lagi
23:56 Surono: oh oke
23:56 Surono: yang satu ini gw maafin, dan btw udah reply ascendance?
23:56 Surono: mumpung dia Online si Mbom
23:57 Professor Gila: buset
23:57 Surono: gw cuma punya waktu 15-30menit untuk online
23:57 Surono: oh blum bales kamu? baru nongol?
23:58 Professor Gila: gak bakal sempat ane yakin
23:58 Professor Gila: coba besok dah kalau bisa
23:58 Surono: ya
23:58 Surono: bisa untuk edit kata2mu di post untuk reply JBH?
23:58 Professor Gila: yang si jbh udah ane reply itu
23:58 Surono: emotnya kurangin tolong, biar dia ga annoy
23:58 Professor Gila: jujur saja sur, mending ada 1 orang yang ngepost reply buat 1 diff
23:58 Surono: dia itu tua umur
23:58 Professor Gila: lah ini, ada 2 mod baut 1 diff?
23:59 Surono: kalau tau kelakuan kamu, ntar jadi drama
23:59 Professor Gila: ntar bisa "konflik"
23:59 Surono: 2 mod untuk 1 diff karna itu improvisasi
23:59 Surono: ya ga lah
23:59 Surono: kamu kan udah bales si JBH, kalau ada point yang bentrok. kamu jelasin kalau itu udah ada dari mod si JBH
23:59 Surono: dan klarifikasi mana yg bener bagus
23:59 Surono: dan itu juga mod ascendance berasal dari permintaan MBomb kan?
00:00 Professor Gila: entahlah
00:00 Surono: ? udah edit postmu? aku ga banyak waktu
00:00 Surono: aku cuma pengen savelog chat ini dan edit kata2 kasarku di post
00:01 Professor Gila: ane juga gak bakal mungkin buat reply sekarang
00:01 Surono: cuma hapus emot2 nya itu
00:01 Professor Gila: udah tengah malam gini
00:01 Professor Gila: kalau buru buru ya kayak tadi lagi
00:01 Professor Gila: malahan
00:01 Professor Gila: mau?
00:01 Surono: cuma hapus emot di Postmu
00:01 Surono: Emotikonnya
00:02 Surono: udah? mau savelog ini..
00:02 Professor Gila: ada di osu
00:02 Surono: dan kata2mu yg kaya mmmmmmmmm, ganti kata oke
00:02 Professor Gila: "log private messages"
00:02 Professor Gila: jadi gak usah ribet main /savelog
00:02 Professor Gila: *terus terusan
00:03 Surono: please? kamu memperhatikan kata2ku ga?
00:03 Surono: aku cuma tanya, "udah blom edit postmu?"
00:05 Professor Gila: TUH UDIN
00:05 Professor Gila: eh sorry caps
00:05 Surono: wew
00:05 Surono: :U
00:06 Professor Gila: sinis sur, minta snickers nya :V
00:06 Surono: :UUUUUUUU bang sads.
00:06 Surono: wew, trek trekan skarang. okelah gw update

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Ansane

36 posts

Joined June 2014

Ansane 2016-05-10T17:03:30+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Also I did ask ascendance to post on thread, so if anyone should be blamed for his post, it's me.

the truth has been spoken, surono appreciate it.. btw it's ok!

I just want to say : "jangan pernah mengecewakan orang yang telah memberikan kesempatan untuk numpang diff loh.."
*FLYYYYYYYYY

Momota

270 posts

Joined February 2014

Momota 2016-05-10T17:30:08+00:00

btw buat prof.g
minta maap jangan lupa ke ascendance, dia marah itu dgn respon mu di mod yang sebelumnya prof.g, kata terakhir dia di mod nya jleb bener itu
style map mu boleh aja dipake, tapi kan ini konteks nya ranked, dimain banyak orang gitu,
kalo masalah respon ke mod, kalo memang ada mod yang buat pattern atau isi map mu lebih baek, ga ada salahnya ngerubah style mu sedikit, mod mereka ga akan ngerubah isi dengan fatal kok, juga misal menolak mod, usahakan jawabnya berisi, jangan cuma no terus udah, pasti dong ada 'inilah kenapa aku mempertahankan pattern ini maka akan kujelaskan mengapa mod mu kutolak untuk saat ini' ga salah kok apply mod kalo memang itu buat jadi lebih baik, tetap ini diff tetap punyamu, bukan punya yang ngemod atau apalah, juga sebelum dq ada mod dari mb kan ? nah disitu kan gw sih melihatnya itu final mod, dimana titik titik yg dibilang mbom itu titik fatal yg harus dibetulkan, kalo ngga terancan dq, menurut gw ya pribadi. juga mod dari bn itu gak sembarangan, pasti isi mod tsb juga berguna, wong namanya bn masuknya aja udah ada testnya.
jadi mod ascendace itu kamu urus juga, dia udah bilang, mod jbh fokus di kiai part, maka ascendance mengurus yang sebelumnya
masih bisa digunakan kok mod nya
terakhir, jangan lupa untuk melihat contoh diff diff lain yang ranked,
komen diff mu sih salad mu masih rasa cup, tapi ada jump jump fatal/kejauhan malah mirip platter ya ga banyak tapi jadinya gak konsisten gitu
lalu jangan karna ini kamu harus mengapply semua mod, misal ada yang mod kurang pas tolak aja, tapi jelaskan mengapa kamu menolak mod itu, supaya yg mod tadi tau.
wes ngono wae

Kagari

750 posts

Joined October 2013

Kagari 2016-05-10T17:40:36+00:00

Momota wrote:
btw buat prof.g
minta maap jangan lupa ke ascendance, dia marah itu dgn respon mu di mod yang sebelumnya prof.g, kata terakhir dia di mod nya jleb bener itu
style map mu boleh aja dipake, tapi kan ini konteks nya ranked, dimain banyak orang gitu,
kalo masalah respon ke mod, kalo memang ada mod yang buat pattern atau isi map mu lebih baek, ga ada salahnya ngerubah style mu sedikit, mod mereka ga akan ngerubah isi dengan fatal kok, juga misal menolak mod, usahakan jawabnya berisi, jangan cuma no terus udah, pasti dong ada 'inilah kenapa aku mempertahankan pattern ini maka akan kujelaskan mengapa mod mu kutolak untuk saat ini' ga salah kok apply mod kalo memang itu buat jadi lebih baik, tetap ini diff tetap punyamu, bukan punya yang ngemod atau apalah, juga sebelum dq ada mod dari mb kan ? nah disitu kan gw sih melihatnya itu final mod, dimana titik titik yg dibilang mbom itu titik fatal yg harus dibetulkan, kalo ngga terancan dq, menurut gw ya pribadi. juga mod dari bn itu gak sembarangan, pasti isi mod tsb juga berguna, wong namanya bn masuknya aja udah ada testnya.
jadi mod ascendace itu kamu urus juga, dia udah bilang, mod jbh fokus di kiai part, maka ascendance mengurus yang sebelumnya
masih bisa digunakan kok mod nya
terakhir, jangan lupa untuk melihat contoh diff diff lain yang ranked,
komen diff mu sih salad mu masih rasa cup, tapi ada jump jump fatal/kejauhan malah mirip platter ya ga banyak tapi jadinya gak konsisten gitu
lalu jangan karna ini kamu harus mengapply semua mod, misal ada yang mod kurang pas tolak aja, tapi jelaskan mengapa kamu menolak mod itu, supaya yg mod tadi tau.
wes ngono wae

i completely agree with this statement... great advice

Volta

1,622 posts

Joined March 2014

Volta 2016-05-10T18:19:03+00:00

gw sempet memantau dan ngeliat kegundahan lw sebelum diedit, tp gw menahan diri untuk gak membales karena lagi ngerjain skripsi dan gak mau konsentrasi buyar sampe target hari ini tercapai. maaf kalo di post sebelumnya gw terdengar angkuh ato apa tapi sesungguhnya tidak ada maksud seperti itu, gw hanya mencari apa yang mungkin bisa diperbaiki tapi belum diungkapkan oleh orang lain, dan kalo emang gak sesuai dengan selera ditolak juga gapapa. pas gw coba pasang saran gw gak ada error apa pun dengan garis merahnya jadi gw agak bingung dengan hal tersebut. dengan segenap hati gw juga ingin mapset ini cepet kelar dan drama cepet selesai.

oke itu aja, semoga bisa dimengerti. gw gak akan post apa-apa lagi kecuali ada mod di diff gw. nite.

Absolute Zero

595 posts

Joined August 2014

Absolute Zero 2016-05-10T22:23:35+00:00

Road to requalification
[Prof. Gila's Salad]
00:11:197 (1) - This slider feels a bit strange because you suddenly stop following the melody. Make this a 1/2 slider + hitcircle instead because there's such a strong melody that you've followed before and it's a little awkward to leave out a strong note.
00:13:864 (1) - ^
00:17:197 (3) - ^
00:38:697 (5,6) - Strangely low movement from (5,6). I would suggest moving (6,7,8) further away because of the long distance gap. Here, it would be fine to make a dash.
00:40:864 (2) - I would suggest making this a 1/4 slider and a hitcircle instead, if you want to follow both the melody and the higher piano.
00:43:197 (1,2,1,2) - AAAA by making these 1/1 sliders you miss so many beats in the melody! Please make these hitcircles 1/2 apart?
00:49:531 (4) - NC?
00:51:864 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - (Am unsure if others would agree with this comment) I would make this timeline like this instead to follow the melody closer.

Ticker is around 00:52:697

00:53:864 (1) - Again, you're missing key notes here in the melody. Make this two hitcircles?
00:55:197 (3) - ^
00:56:531 (1) - To keep consistency with the music before, I would suggest making this two hitcircles spaced 1/2 apart.
01:07:197 (3,1) - Strangely low movement between these two? The music picks up but there is literally no reason for the catcher to move. Move (1) further left?
01:08:031 (2,1) - Spacing is again low here, this time for the long gap between the notes.
01:08:864 (1,2) - Make (2) go further to the left, or at least a group between them.
01:09:864 (4,1,2) - Distance is way too low! Increase distance please.
01:14:197 (3,4,5) - These notes aren't in the melody you were following before. Please change the rhythms to match the notes.
01:31:198 (1) - Strange inconsistency with the 1/2 beat you have following the melody. Would suggest making these 3 hitcircles 1/2 length from each other.

Professor Gila

644 posts

Joined December 2014

Professor Gila 2016-05-11T05:41:26+00:00

what '^'

now there's some mod from AZ, but now i wanna reply ascendance's '^'

Ascendance wrote:
00:03:197 (3,1,2) - Not a big fan of this stack here, the catcher should really be moving constantly, and this is a good place to start. Ctrl+g'ing 00:03:531 (1,2,3,4) - would make for a dash addition and some added movement, which is needed here, in my opinion. | are you going to make lots of movement for this salad diff?
00:05:864 (3) - You could really add a dash to here. The note is really high and could use some more movement besides a walking distance. | perhaps?
00:11:197 (1,1) - I don't know why these have such strong notes on slider ends. You'd be much better off making these 1/2 sliders with a circle on where the slider USED to end. That way, the note becomes more emphasized, rather than just another object in a slider. You could also make dashes to them, also. | uh i don't think so somehow
00:13:531 (4,1) - Adding some distance (or a dash) between here would be nice due to the heavier piano layer which is added on this note for more emphasis. | yeah yeah
00:15:531 (2,3,4) - This is a really weird decline, I think making them evenly spaced would help the pattern look a little cleaner in my opinion. Also, maybe some added distance at 00:15:531 (2,3) - to compliment the finisher could be nice. | when i replied MBomb's part (if i'm not mistaken), i rearranged the distance there
00:17:197 (3) - Same fix as before with a 1/2 slider and a note. You're really missing a strong beat on these red ticks by having these long sliders, and by switching these patterns a bit, you can help the rhythm out with more close interpretation. | uh no, i shouldn't fix that, since having slider there should be fine
00:19:864 (2) - Tilting this to the right and forcing a dash to 00:20:531 (3) - would be a great way to set up the next section of music here, rather than make the whole distance walkable. | perhaps? also i re arrange the distance for 2
00:24:531 (3,4) - These distances are really quite close, which makes the difficulty feel a bit squished. Try adding a dash between 00:24:364 (2,3) - and moving 00:24:864 (4) - more to the right, making it horizontal so it plays better out of the previous dash pattern. | i only make 00:24:364 (2) to dash
00:25:364 (5,6) - A dash to 6 could be nice too, since the piano is REALLY strong here! | perhaps?
00:27:197 (3,1,2,3) - This whole pattern is cramped on the right grid, you should really add some spacing here to make the difficulty less restricting, and allowing the catcher to move a bit more, rather than making it sharp and choppy. | i shouldn't make too much movement for this salad diff
00:32:864 (1,2,3) - The pattern is really wrong, since you have the dash going to 00:33:364 (3) - when the strong note is at 00:33:197 (2) - . I'd suggest moving (2) to the right alongside (3) and rework the distances to that the dash is kept, but the pattern is more comfortable. | making a dash from 00:33:197 (2) is fine, just in case getting the sound feedback afterwards to dash
00:35:531 (3,4,5) - Same here, really. It also doesn't help that 00:34:864 (1,2,3) - are so close to each other. I'd suggest reworking the entire pattern here to ensure there is more constant movement and good flow, by taking the suggestion I did earlier about the strong note being alongside the slider after the dash. | same case as above
00:37:864 (2,3,4) - Why are these stacked? (3,4) should be farther away from 2 due to their stronger notation in the music, if anything. Move these away and give some distance here, it feels too close. | why you want to make slider 3 to dash while 00:38:531 (4) is enough to make a dash?
00:50:864 (8,1) - Really strong note on 1, adding a dash would be really recommended here | this would be look like make things a bit harder (just like how HR in ctb works)
00:52:531 (5) - NC this for the new line, and add some distance between this and the previous note. | uh no
Additionally, adding some dash between 00:52:864 (6,7,8) - would be really good since the notes pick up emphasis here and it could be nice leading up to the kiai. | i think so
00:53:864 (1,3,1,3) - All these 1/1 sliders should be changed to match the emphasis of the song, as stated above. I think there's room for improvement in these patterns as well, with them being a bit too cramped. | i only re arranged the distance there, hope it wouldn't be too awkward
01:00:864 (4) - ctrl+h'ing this works REALLY well here, since it gives room for the catcher to move, and creates a nice jump. | yes and make it a bit closer to 01:01:864 (5) -
JBHyperion pointed out a lot of stuff in the kiai so I'll let this be for now. Please take your time to reconsider this difficulty and don't be stubborn when accepting stuff. If you're going to deny anything, please give a REASON to why you're denying it, and make it a good reason. I don't want to come back here after another Qualify and write the same stuff.

done :3 now gimme a break!

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gonna call surono to stop mod my diff here >:c

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Surono 2016-05-11T09:14:55+00:00

Professor Gila wrote:
gonna call surono to stop mod my diff here >:c

wh

Wohh??? not me, theyre wanted to mod cuz your diff needs improvements. Idk what happen with you or you just trying like have right thinking? or what?

Oke lidah, udah ngebaca statmentnya si momota? oke gw ngerti lu berusaha buat Inovasi diff itu, salad dengan rasa comfortable.. tapi udah liat bagian2 yg menurut momota fatal itu? klau udah fix ya oke. tapi kalau modder dateng kesini jangan salahkan ke aku ya, karena mungkin ini datang karena ada agrumen kamu yg masih menyelekit di modder sebelumnya. dan kenapa mreka memanggil modder lain untuk ngertiin kamu jadi tetep yang aku bilangin, liat postnya si Momota buat kesadaran kamu. gw dulu sebagai mapper juga awal awal dapet mod ya masih respon mengiya iya, tapi lama kelamaan setelah gw ngerasa ngemap gw bener ya gw kadang brani menolak tapi entah kadang gw bakal brubah pikiran karna sadar itu memang bener. jadi terserah kamu kalau kuat ya kuatin, tapi jangan sampe buat mereka geram karna kelakuanmu. FOKUS Modnya bukan cara dia berbicara kalau kamu ga kuat, itu sebabnya kamu kadang cendorong menolak karna masih membawa EGO dari pada LOGIKA. buang dulu rasa ngedrama lu ye? pikirin diff lu dulu

dan Volta, gw maaf juga.. gw ga ngarep lu ngebaca baper ampas gw xd gw tau lu ga bermaksud gitu, kata2 lu emang biasa2 aja dan terkesan cuma bercanda dan ingetin.. yah biasa2 aja gw rasa, cuma pas itu gw lagi naik aja.. gw ga masalhin lu tapi orang di atas ini btw lol makanya lu ikut2an kebawa pake kata2 ampas gw, ya gitulah reaksi gw liat kondisi post2 di page sebelumnya itu.

ok,. lidah comeon hurry up, I want breathing for nothing `L_` ( lu coba bales tu mod dari AZ trus post lagi, gw ga bakal update karna gw sibuk. itu final mod buat lu)

not update yet, waiting lidah respon to AZ mod

Professor Gila

644 posts

Joined December 2014

Professor Gila 2016-05-11T09:24:15+00:00

RESERVED FOR AZ'S

Absolute Zero wrote:
Road to requalification
[Prof. Gila's Salad]
00:11:197 (1) - This slider feels a bit strange because you suddenly stop following the melody. Make this a 1/2 slider + hitcircle instead because there's such a strong melody that you've followed before and it's a little awkward to leave out a strong note. | how about make slider tick ratio into 2? honestly i don't like this
00:13:864 (1) - ^ | ^
00:17:197 (3) - ^ | ^
00:38:697 (5,6) - Strangely low movement from (5,6). I would suggest moving (6,7,8) further away because of the long distance gap. Here, it would be fine to make a dash. | no no, i don't want to spam some more movements, actually
00:40:864 (2) - I would suggest making this a 1/4 slider and a hitcircle instead, if you want to follow both the melody and the higher piano. | thanks, but i prefer to keep it
00:43:197 (1,2,1,2) - AAAA by making these 1/1 sliders you miss so many beats in the melody! Please make these hitcircles 1/2 apart? | i just add some objects without remove them whut's AAAA
00:49:531 (4) - NC? | no
00:51:864 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - (Am unsure if others would agree with this comment) I would make this timeline like this instead to follow the melody closer.
Ticker is around 00:52:697
^ no
00:53:864 (1) - Again, you're missing key notes here in the melody. Make this two hitcircles? | isn't the droplet have representated so? (by making slider tick ratio 2)
00:55:197 (3) - ^ | ^
00:56:531 (1) - To keep consistency with the music before, I would suggest making this two hitcircles spaced 1/2 apart. | ^
01:07:197 (3,1) - Strangely low movement between these two? The music picks up but there is literally no reason for the catcher to move. Move (1) further left? | a bit
01:08:031 (2,1) - Spacing is again low here, this time for the long gap between the notes. | just move 01:08:864 (1) a bit to the right
01:08:864 (1,2) - Make (2) go further to the left, or at least a group between them. | only 01:09:197 (2) to the left a bit
01:09:864 (4,1,2) - Distance is way too low! Increase distance please. | a bit
01:14:197 (3,4,5) - These notes aren't in the melody you were following before. Please change the rhythms to match the notes. | i don't get the point, so no
01:31:198 (1) - Strange inconsistency with the 1/2 beat you have following the melody. Would suggest making these 3 hitcircles 1/2 length from each other. | again, the droplet have representated them by making slider tick ratio 2

~~damn it, i just reply the mod on my laptop, and the file is not after replying ascendance's :C~~ aaaahhhh, done!

:c :c :c :c :c

osu file format v14

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Title:Kohaku no Yume
TitleUnicode:虚白ノ夢
Artist:Kanawo
ArtistUnicode:カナヲ
Creator:Surono
Version:Prof. Gila's Salad
Source:虚白ノ夢
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Last edited by Professor Gila 2016-05-12T09:18:20+00:00, edited 5 times in total.

Lirai

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Joined December 2013

Lirai 2016-05-11T14:49:49+00:00

Mak sunari dont be sad pls

come join t♂ my party here wwww

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Surono 2016-05-11T14:52:37+00:00

[s]Momota[/s] DE-CADE wrote:
adohhh Ghalerrrrrr., .

edit:
oh no.. I saw bad sign.. wtf lidah

he just say forget to copy latest mod from ascendance and just reply AZ mod from his old diff??? wtf Lucky I scolding him to put previous post from ascendance mod and adjusting on AZ mod.. wtf man...

oke last...

Updated

ursa

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Joined April 2010

ursa 2016-05-12T16:42:49+00:00

Keep in mind modder spend their time to help the mapper to improve his/her diff, & at least give a proper reason when you accept/decline a mod.

anyway goodluck for the requalify

Surono

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Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Surono 2016-05-12T16:51:07+00:00

Mak Sunari ga kuat.........

Mak Sunari pengen nerbangin layangan biar kena pesawat, terus ntar ~~pesawatnya~~ layangannya jatuh deh

Arlecchino

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Joined October 2013

Arlecchino 2016-05-14T03:52:59+00:00

PatZar wrote:
tar juga ke dq lagi

^ dukun confirmed

mz sur yang sabar, ttp semangat ya
GL~

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Surono 2016-05-14T04:20:54+00:00

Ada apa dgn si mapper salad dan ada apa dgn si BN/Modder?

Wew I regret nothink, i laik just breathink °

Hunter Howl

335 posts

Joined July 2013

Hunter Howl 2016-05-14T04:34:00+00:00

kena dq gara-gara salad yak?

padahal gw pengen nyoba main dengan DT :'(

Raediaufar

879 posts

Joined November 2014

Raediaufar 2016-05-14T07:36:47+00:00

Gue gatau ni map sempet quali yha, good luck and have stars

Surono

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Surono 2016-05-15T11:17:48+00:00

Thanks for support, guys!

Please tell me what happen, where are you BNs.. I afraid to summoning the BNs in-game or Forum ;w;

Professor Gila

644 posts

Joined December 2014

Professor Gila 2016-05-15T14:39:39+00:00

nitip diff salad dari ane (abis edit, terpaksa ane edit beberapa bagian dan diusahain ilangin jump 1/4 nya)

osu file format v14

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Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Surono 2016-05-16T12:49:33+00:00

Updated

edit:
oke, wh8 neks??????? ;L_;

snowball112

363 posts

Joined February 2013

snowball112 2016-05-17T21:58:00+00:00

Heya, random mod

Salad

The dashes in the beginning between objects like 00:01:031 (3,4) feel far too strong. I suggest you bring the whole thing of 00:00:531 (1,2,3) further to the right.
Similar issue with 00:03:697 (2,3) as ^
I think using a slider at 00:04:864 sounds pretty weird. This is because there are guitar sounds starting at 00:01:531 or 00:02:531 which would justify the use of sliders more, and you map a slider right between those, which doesn't make much sense imo. If you really want a slider in this part, I'd suggest you use one from 00:01:531 to 00:02:197 instead for the drawn-out sound in the music and emphasize stuff like 00:02:531 with single circles for more consistency here.
00:04:864 similar issue to ^
I think you should replace the slider starting at 00:10:197 with a single circle and have a nicely spaced 1/2 dash between 00:10:197 and 00:10:531.
00:31:531 ^
You have similar issues to the above later in the song as well, just going to take 00:21:864 (1,2,3) as an example. This choice of objects feels really off because there are longer sounds in the music starting from 00:22:864 for example, which is where your slider ends. A slider starting from such a point would sound much better. Also, for emphasis on the music something like the slider starting at 00:22:197 would sound better if you use single circles instead.
The slider starting at 00:53:864 just feels weird because you have the end mapped to a strong beat in the music, how about changing this to a 1/2 slider + circle on 00:54:531?
00:55:197 ^

Just to sum up some stuff when you apply my mod and recheck your diff:

You have a bunch of sliders landing on strong beats where circles would be more appropriate.
Emphasis through objects feels off, and this is reflected in the jumps, eg. why is there a jump between 00:34:531 (5,1) when there is a stronger sounding beat that would justify a jump between 00:34:197 (4,5) instead or to the note on 00:35:197. Maybe try a 1/2 slider from 00:34:531 and have a jump between 00:34:864 and 00:35:197 if you want to put emphasis on the piano.

The above two issues reoccur throughout your map, please use the above examples for reference.

Platter

Kind of similar stuff as in salad due to some weird object choices in my opinion.

00:00:864 (2,3) is a strange choice of object use. Maybe try replacing the second slider with two single circles, you have a stronger piano sound on 00:01:531.
00:04:031 (6) ^
00:04:864 (1,2) just feels weird because there is a long note between the two sliders, why not use circle - slider - circle instead? Much nicer for emphasis imo.
The pattern 00:12:197 (5,6) doesn't make much sense. You have a long sound in the music from 00:12:197 to 00:12:864 and a strong beat on 00:13:197. It would sound much better if you map the slider to the long sound and have a single note for the strong beat.
Jumps like that of 00:11:864 (4,5) feel weird because the dash happens after the stronger beat. How about making the jump between 00:11:698 (3,4) instead and using a slider from 00:12:197 to 00:12:864? Makes more sense with the instrument sounds imo.
Sliders like 00:43:531 (1,2,3,4) feel off because you have sliderends mapped to the stronger sounds or end sliders when long notes begin, for example at 00:44:531.

Similar stuff to the above examples later in the diff as well, mainly strong beats on sliderends.

Rain

Is the finish on the entire sliders of 00:22:197 (2,3) intended? Following ones only have start or end hitsounded. Edit: I meant whistle, whoops.

Also, consider changing sliders like the one at 00:22:697 to two single circles, stronger sound on the sliderend, also having a slider here kind of conflicts with the long sound starting at 00:22:864. Good stuff otherwise.

Good luck

Edit 2:

Surono wrote:
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btw, ty for random1!!!1!! no tacos mod? ayy

Not much to say, but if you want some more suggestions, sure.
Kantan:

00:53:197 - k, better contrast to following note and transition to next part where you map k to the drum beat eg. in the pattern of 00:55:197 (53,54,55).
Remove 01:06:531, nicer emphasis for the finish and better transition to next part. This note here just feels weird because the pitch is different to 01:07:197, but spacing and colour suggest same sounds, which is not the case.

Futsuu:

00:32:197 (46,47) - ctrl+g? Would be nice to have k on the strong piano sound like at 00:35:197.
00:22:864 Maybe d for contrast to 00:25:531?
00:28:197 maybe k, contrast to 00:30:864.

Muzukashii:

01:09:865 (161,162,163,164) - k d kk? Might be better for instrument emphasis, but stacking 3 1/2 k might be too much, maybe try around with this to see which you prefer.
01:20:531 (191,192,193,194) - ^
01:15:698 (178,179,180) k dd? Would fit the instrument nicely because sounds on this doublet are lower than the others.

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Volta 2016-05-18T04:05:19+00:00

snowball112 wrote:
Heya, random mod

Rain
Is the finish on the entire sliders of 00:22:197 (2,3) intended? Following ones only have start or end hitsounded. hm? no finish at all in those sliders. and only the end or the start are hitsounded like the following notes

Also, consider changing sliders like the one at 00:22:697 to two single circles, stronger sound on the sliderend, also having a slider here kind of conflicts with the long sound starting at 00:22:864. Good stuff otherwise. i prefer to have consistency with previous slider since the sound is similar. intended to make the long sound empty to make player fail if missed previous pattern too much

Good luck

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