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Cheer-no

KingsAL2 wrote:

*By AL2 Mod queue

[Insane]
00:00:145 - 00:08:783 No slider... Well, it is Insane! But yeah, it's the beginning of the map, I'll go easy and add a couple.
00:10:661 (5) - New combo Done
00:16:764 (1) - Start at 00:16:670 Geez, how'd I miss that? Done!
00:29:816 (13) - New combo 00:30:191 (1) - Remove new combo Got it!
01:00:238 (1,2) - Spacing?  \
01:00:990 (5,6) - ^               \
00:00:145 (1,2) - Spacing       > AIMod must have gotten better... Only spacing problems that make the map look good are left!
00:00:520 (4,5) - ^               /
A lot of spacing problem       /

[Hard]
00:21:177 (4) - New combo? Done!
00:39:769 (3,4) - Spacing All right, made it a bit better
01:08:313 (4,5) - Why need a small jump?Mmm... good point! I'll take it out for now.

[All]
OMG STAR Thank you so much! :)
OzzyOzrock
[Normal]
Spacing seems to change through out... try and fix that

Your sliders look ugly, and don't really fit the video. Try using AT LEAST four points, and looping them around circles, making them symmetrical and whatnot. Then add some other colors. The ones you have don't really fit lol.

01:00:238 - Don't use a Timing Section, use an inheriting section. Unless you have a reason, but you don't. Just delete it, hit Ctrl+shift+P and you'll make one. Then go to style, and choose kiai.

And lower some difficulty settings lol
[Hard]
Some of the same things I mentioned in normal.

Use AIMod for some help, btw, just hit Ctrl+Shift+A.
[Insane]
Lol 19 sliders... and not used that well wwww

Uh, mmm, same as the other diffs, really, lol. Uh, yeah, you can do it~
[Taiko]
00:32:445 (43) - Remove this finish.

Good job! star~ (orz)
Topic Starter
Cheer-no

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[Normal]
Spacing seems to change through out... try and fix that Sacrificed some aesthetics, but I made the spacing an almost immaculate 0.8x! Hooray!

Your sliders look ugly, and don't really fit the video. Try using AT LEAST four points, and looping them around circles, making them symmetrical and whatnot. Then add some other colors. The ones you have don't really fit lol. Judging by how many comments I get about them I really suck at sliders... fixed the ones I found to be really ugly, but kept most of them in so I wouldn't have to rework huge chunks of the map. If I get enough complaints, I probably will, but... I also suck at color picking! Changed them up, are they any good now?

01:00:238 - Don't use a Timing Section, use an inheriting section. Unless you have a reason, but you don't. Just delete it, hit Ctrl+shift+P and you'll make one. Then go to style, and choose kiai. Ooh, whoopsies! Fixed that.

And lower some difficulty settings lol Done :3
[Hard]
Some of the same things I mentioned in normal.

Use AIMod for some help, btw, just hit Ctrl+Shift+A. AIMod gives me almost no spacing issues for some reason... oh well, 1.1x spacing almost everywhere!
[Insane]
Lol 19 sliders... and not used that well wwww It used to only have 6... orz

Uh, mmm, same as the other diffs, really, lol. Uh, yeah, you can do it~ Fixed the spacing slightly, but for the most part it utterly broke the patterns to use good spacing, so I'm leaving it as is for now...
[Taiko]
00:32:445 (43) - Remove this finish. Done!

Good job! star~ (orz) Thank you very much~!
OzzyOzrock
Yeah, looks better :3
Topic Starter
Cheer-no
Hooray! Getting there, at this rate I'll have this map ranked before the world ends in 2012 >w<
Ijah_old
Star, are you accepting a guest diff? o:
Topic Starter
Cheer-no
Sure! I don't see why not :3
Kyonko Hizara
:)
Topic Starter
Cheer-no
Thanks very much for the star! :D
Luvdic
General:

Your current mp3 file has a bitrate of 40kbps, please find another one with a higher quality, currently, the lowest rankable bitrate is 128 kbps and maximum is 192 kbps, so find one within this range.

Preview time in Taiko difficulty is different than the others, they should be exactly the same in all difficulties.

Your normal difficulty is using a different combo colour sets than the rest of the difficulties. Please be consistent with this in all your difficulties too!

Insane:

Your timing section 01:00:238 - should be an inherited timing section

00:29:440 (12) - It would better if this didn't overlap (10)
00:35:074 (10,11,12) - Spacing
00:50:661 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - Ugly overlaps, you should avoid it.

Hard:

AR+1
00:23:008 (3) - Watch out where this slider starts, cause it should start at 00:23:055 -

The rest is alright...
Topic Starter
Cheer-no

ErufenRito wrote:

General:

Your current mp3 file has a bitrate of 40kbps, please find another one with a higher quality, currently, the lowest rankable bitrate is 128 kbps and maximum is 192 kbps, so find one within this range. Uh oh, that's a problem... there's no mp3 of it, I had to rip from a youtube video. Do you know of any youtube audio rippers that can get within that range?

Preview time in Taiko difficulty is different than the others, they should be exactly the same in all difficulties. Fixed

Your normal difficulty is using a different combo colour sets than the rest of the difficulties. Please be consistent with this in all your difficulties too! Oh wow, I thought I changed it to Normal's colors for every difficulty, surprised nobody (including myself) caught that... Fixed!

Insane:

Your timing section 01:00:238 - should be an inherited timing section ...how did I not notice that!? Fixed... orz

00:29:440 (12) - It would better if this didn't overlap (10) Mmm... why not, changing it doesn't break anything. Fixed
00:35:074 (10,11,12) - Spacing Fixed
00:50:661 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - Ugly overlaps, you should avoid it. Hmm, okay... Changed it, I think it looks a lot better this way actually!

Hard:

AR+1 Okay!
00:23:008 (3) - Watch out where this slider starts, cause it should start at 00:23:055 Argh, I'm torn on this one... If I snap it properly, it's slightly late or early. If I snap it properly to the vocals, then it's all strange as it is now... I dunno! I'll snap it properly for now, I guess.

The rest is alright... Thank you very much!
That bitrate thing is really troubling, though... I don't have superhuman ears like so many other people seem to have, though, the quality seems fine to me. I have no idea how I can get a higher bitrate though, I might just have to re-encode it and lose some quality. Oh well, if it comes to that it comes to that!
Charles445
Here's a 192 kbps mp3 I ripped using video2mp3.net
http://www.mediafire.com/?gszwwkmwthq7533

With this mp3 you'll need to change the offset to about 185, and set the video offset to 100
Topic Starter
Cheer-no

Charles445 wrote:

Here's a 192 kbps mp3 I ripped using video2mp3.net
http://www.mediafire.com/?gszwwkmwthq7533

With this mp3 you'll need to change the offset to about 185, and set the video offset to 100
Oh wow, thanks a ton!! I tried and tried to use the high quality option on that site, but it froze every single time... I owe you one! Changing the MP3 now.

Edit: Done! Everyone will need to redownload the map. (I so want to give you kudosu for that post but I'm pretty sure it's against the rules ;_; )
Ijah_old
Very late, but here's my diff.

Download: KinkyOats feat. Raocow - Cat Canyon (Cheer-no) [Ijah's].osu

Sorry, I forgot to recheck to see if you accepted my offer Dx

Also, a little few suggestions:
Insane:
AR +1
Hard:
AR +2
OD +1

Oh, and possible comboburst?
Topic Starter
Cheer-no

Ijah wrote:

Very late, but here's my diff.
Oh man, this is awesome! Thanks a ton! :)

Ijah wrote:

Also, a little few suggestions:

Insane:
AR +1
Hard:
AR +2
OD +1
Done! They play better now for sure~

Ijah wrote:

Oh, and possible comboburst?
Oh man, it's pretty great! Added ^.^
Ijah_old
Yay, it got added :3

Another thing, add "Kirby's Dreamland 3" to the source and "Ijah" to the tags :3
Topic Starter
Cheer-no

Ijah wrote:

Yay, it got added :3

Another thing, add "Kirby's Dreamland 3" to the source and "Ijah" to the tags :3
Done and done! You're a huge help, thanks a lot >w<
Sallad4ever
Hi Cheer-no

[General]
  1. Somehow you're using so many point just to make a simple short slider, try to use this guide to make a perfect and beautiful slider. It'll help you a lot
  2. I suggest you to use 70% or 80% for the overall volume, 100% are way too big
  3. Snapped the kiai timing section to the long white tick please
  4. Missing source on Taiko diff
[Normal]
  1. 00:24:222 (1) - to many repeat for a 1/2 beat slider, nothing wrong with it, it's just that the slider sounds awkward with the gap right after it, like something is missing. I suggest to make this slider similar to 00:27:227 (1) then add a circle on 00:25:349.
    00:33:612 (1) - better start this on 00:33:236 cause the previous patterns are somehow following the vocal and this place here still have some vocal going on too. A simple 1/1 beat slider like on 00:30:231 (1) are great~
  2. 00:37:743 (3,4,5) - this is only my preference so you can ignore it. I don't like the half overlapped end of this pattern, they don't look very neat imo
  3. 00:45:255 (1,2) - are the whistle slider slide intentional? it doesn't sounds good moreover when you already using clap on those slider
  4. 00:55:771 (1) - remove this NC (new combo)
  5. 01:00:278 (1) - maybe add a finish at the start of the slider?
  6. 01:07:789 (1) - remove NC
  7. 01:09:292 (1) - you sir are genius
[Hard]
  1. 00:03:189 (1) - add finish on this one
  2. 00:15:208 (4,5,6,7) - the end are not perfectly stack, try unable the snap grid & distance snap then stack them more perfectly please
  3. 00:42:250 (1,2,3,4) - try add some hitsound on these objects
  4. 00:58:307 (6) - it's hard to expect that this is on 1/4 beat. The fact that it's a kick slider make this easier to hit, as slider have bigger hit tolerance than circle, but I still think player will hit this early cause the majority of this diff are using 1/2 beat. I suggest to make 00:58:025 (5) into a slider that ends on 00:58:307, then add a circle on 00:58:400.
[Insane]
  1. 00:04:504 (8,1) - use 1x distance spacing here
  2. 00:15:584 (5) - this jump maybe a bit random and it's not suitable for this part too
  3. 00:42:814 (4) - ^
  4. 00:47:039 (1) - this 1/4 beat right after the spinner is too unexpected, it may follow the music, but it's too subtle. I actually expected this to follow the vocal on 00:47:039
  5. 01:05:161 (1,1,1,1,1) - unnecessary NC spam, please don't do this

[Ijah's Insane]
  1. 00:20:654 (1) - the slider repeat is covered by the previous hitburst, reposition it
  2. 00:56:898 (1,2,3,4,5) - it's better if you follow the rhythm on the music instead of using stream like this
  3. 00:58:213 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^
[Taiko]
  1. Disable the video for this diff (just remove the "Video,99,"cat_canyon.flv" line on the osu notepad)
  2. 00:41:217 (94) - this should be on 00:41:311
Normal, Hard, & Taiko are good, but unfortunately I can't say the same for the other diff. I suggest to use more slider for the Insane diff
That's all from me and Good Luck
Ijah_old

Sallad4ever wrote:

[Ijah's Insane]
  1. 00:20:654 (1) - the slider repeat is covered by the previous hitburst, reposition it - Done
  2. 00:56:898 (1,2,3,4,5) - it's better if you follow the rhythm on the music instead of using stream like this - I dunno, it just feels nicer with this
  3. 00:58:213 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^ - I dunno, it just feels nicer with this

Download: KinkyOats feat. Raocow - Cat Canyon (Cheer-no) [Ijah's].osu
Topic Starter
Cheer-no

Sallad4ever wrote:

Hi Cheer-no Hey there!

[General]
  1. Somehow you're using so many point just to make a simple short slider, try to use this guide to make a perfect and beautiful slider. It'll help you a lot I suppose I ought to... I'll fix the sliders soon, probably.
  2. I suggest you to use 70% or 80% for the overall volume, 100% are way too big 80% sounds perfect, changed!
  3. Snapped the kiai timing section to the long white tick please Wow, how did I not notice that... fixed!
  4. Missing source on Taiko diff Oopsies! Changed :o
[Normal]
  1. 00:24:222 (1) - to many repeat for a 1/2 beat slider, nothing wrong with it, it's just that the slider sounds awkward with the gap right after it, like something is missing. I suggest to make this slider similar to 00:27:227 (1) then add a circle on 00:25:349. Hmm, that does sound better indeed... added a circle after 00:27:227 (1), too.
    00:33:612 (1) - better start this on 00:33:236 cause the previous patterns are somehow following the vocal and this place here still have some vocal going on too. A simple 1/1 beat slider like on 00:30:231 (1) are great~ All right! Remapped that part a bit.
  2. 00:37:743 (3,4,5) - this is only my preference so you can ignore it. I don't like the half overlapped end of this pattern, they don't look very neat imo It definitely looks better if the ends are completely overlapped, but that wrecks the spacing... I'll leave it as it is for now.
  3. 00:45:255 (1,2) - are the whistle slider slide intentional? it doesn't sounds good moreover when you already using clap on those slider I thought it sounded good at the time for some reason, definitely don't agree with my past self. :P Changed
  4. 00:55:771 (1) - remove this NC (new combo) Okay
  5. 01:00:278 (1) - maybe add a finish at the start of the slider? That sounds great, agree :)
  6. 01:07:789 (1) - remove NC Hmm... if you say so
  7. 01:09:292 (1) - you sir are genius Thanks 8-)
[Hard]
  1. 00:03:189 (1) - add finish on this one Done
  2. 00:15:208 (4,5,6,7) - the end are not perfectly stack, try unable the snap grid & distance snap then stack them more perfectly please Did the best I could, they might still be off by a pixel or so each...
  3. 00:42:250 (1,2,3,4) - try add some hitsound on these objects Added a couple of claps
  4. 00:58:307 (6) - it's hard to expect that this is on 1/4 beat. The fact that it's a kick slider make this easier to hit, as slider have bigger hit tolerance than circle, but I still think player will hit this early cause the majority of this diff are using 1/2 beat. I suggest to make 00:58:025 (5) into a slider that ends on 00:58:307, then add a circle on 00:58:400. Tried something like you suggested, I hope it's all right!
[Insane]
  1. 00:04:504 (8,1) - use 1x distance spacing here Oops, fixed
  2. 00:15:584 (5) - this jump maybe a bit random and it's not suitable for this part too Mmmkay, got rid of it
  3. 00:42:814 (4) - ^ ^
  4. 00:47:039 (1) - this 1/4 beat right after the spinner is too unexpected, it may follow the music, but it's too subtle. I actually expected this to follow the vocal on 00:47:039 The two numbers you listed are the same...? Also, I think it's fine as is.
  5. 01:05:161 (1,1,1,1,1) - unnecessary NC spam, please don't do this Okay :o

[Ijah's Insane]
  1. 00:20:654 (1) - the slider repeat is covered by the previous hitburst, reposition it I'll wait for Ijah to fix this Fixed
  2. 00:56:898 (1,2,3,4,5) - it's better if you follow the rhythm on the music instead of using stream like this ^ Not changed
  3. 00:58:213 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^ ^ Not changed
[Taiko]
  1. Disable the video for this diff (just remove the "Video,99,"cat_canyon.flv" line on the osu notepad) All right, done!
  2. 00:41:217 (94) - this should be on 00:41:311 Good catch! Everyone else missed that, me included...
Normal, Hard, & Taiko are good, Hooray! ^.^
but unfortunately I can't say the same for the other diff. Aww :cry:
I suggest to use more slider for the Insane diff I had more sliders at one point, but they played terribly... I think that means that I'd have to remap almost completely! I did just get a guest insane, so I think I might end up scrapping this one and making an Easy instead because I'm lazy. We'll see what happens.
That's all from me and Good Luck Thanks a ton for modding!
theMikeAG
Hey there everybody, this is theMikeAG, modding... VIP3. Errr... Cat Canyon.

~Normal~
00:01:687 (1,2,3) - This caught me off guard (seeing as you're following the background music, rather than the vocals) consider changing this, but I don't think this is too big an issue.
00:13:706 (3) - Maybe use grid4 to center this note between the sliders better?
00:20:842 (x) - Add note?
00:37:743 (3,4,5) - Fix the spacing for these? They're too close.
00:43:753 (5) - Add clap at the end?
00:44:879 (7) - And here too.
00:45:255 (8) - And add one to the middle here.
00:54:645 (x) - Add note?
01:03:282 (1,2,3) - Center these?

~Hard~
00:15:208 (4,5,6,7) - Resnap (4).

~Insane~
00:02:626 (1,2,3,4) - Can you center these along the vertical center?
00:35:865 (1) - Ahh! Lower this note!

~Ijah's Style~
00:01:687 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Find a way to center this?
00:16:710 (1) - End the spinner at 00:17:837.

CAAAAT PLAAAAANEET.
Topic Starter
Cheer-no

theMikeAG wrote:

Hey there everybody, this is theMikeAG, modding... VIP3. Great! There were a few levels that were really weird and it'd be nice for--
Errr... Cat Canyon. Oh... that's okay too!

~Normal~
00:01:687 (1,2,3) - This caught me off guard (seeing as you're following the background music, rather than the vocals) consider changing this, but I don't think this is too big an issue. This would be really hard to map to the vocals on a Normal, I think... Besides, most of the song has the BGM and vocals with the same rhythm, so I don't think it's unreasonable.
00:13:706 (3) - Maybe use grid4 to center this note between the sliders better? Did my best!
00:20:842 (x) - Add note? There are lots of little half-beat gaps like this! It's Normal, so the player needs a bit of a break. I'll add it if more people want me to though.
00:37:743 (3,4,5) - Fix the spacing for these? They're too close. Only slightly! Besides, I like the overlap. I'll probably change it if more people want me to.
00:43:753 (5) - Add clap at the end? Oh right, after I made my sliders better I forgot to re-hitsound them! Done :P
00:44:879 (7) - And here too. ^
00:45:255 (8) - And add one to the middle here. ^
00:54:645 (x) - Add note? It was that way for style reasons, I think... Added! *shoots past self in the face for crappy style*
01:03:282 (1,2,3) - Center these? Okay!

~Hard~
00:15:208 (4,5,6,7) - Resnap (4). It is snapped! Just not to the grid (I needed the slider-ends to line up)

~Insane~
00:02:626 (1,2,3,4) - Can you center these along the vertical center? Okay! Did my best to adjust the streams before it to match.
00:35:865 (1) - Ahh! Lower this note! Oh fine~

~Ijah's Style~
00:01:687 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Find a way to center this? I'll leave this to Ijah
00:16:710 (1) - End the spinner at 00:17:837. ^

CAAAAT PLAAAAANEET. HELLZ YEAH
Thanks for modding! I used you to test out a new modding color scheme, hope you don't mind~ :)
Ijah_old
Graveyard!! D:
OzzyOzrock
zxSDYIA*AY*SFDYASIitl
Topic Starter
Cheer-no
Oh whoops, my bad ^^;; I've been too lazy to finish Easy so I've been letting this kinda sit here modless for a while...
Low
[General]
catplanet catplanet catplanet

[Easy]
Fine so far.

[Normal]
00:59:527 - Clap

[Hard]
Fine.

[Insane]
Wonderful

[Ijah's Style]
1:01:781 - I personally don't like this spinner, add some notes?

CATPLANET star

Can I make a guest diff? nvm too busy
Topic Starter
Cheer-no

Jacob wrote:

[General]
catplanet catplanet catplanet Hell yeah

[Easy]
Fine so far. ^.^

[Normal]
00:59:527 - Clap Mmmkay

[Hard]
Fine. ^.^

[Insane]
Wonderful I think you're one of the few who think so... ;w;

[Ijah's Style]
1:01:781 - I personally don't like this spinner, add some notes? I kinda agree, but let's see what Ijah thinks

CATPLANET star Thanks a ton >w<

Can I make a guest diff? nvm too busy Heh, it's all right :P
Thanks for modding~! ☆
Ijah_old
Aaaaaaaaああああああああああ
Mods/mats? O:
Topic Starter
Cheer-no
It's in WiP because I'm still too lazy to finish Easy! Nobody mods WiP maps, silly :P
-GN
This is an awesome map. And song. And map.
...yeah.

Also, why don't you just remove Easy if you're too lazy to finish it? The Normal difficulty is easy enough for it to fit within ranking rules... I think. I never took the time to read through all of them because I'm not much of a mapper.
Topic Starter
Cheer-no
Well, because nobody but me seems to like Insane, so I feel like I need to make another map. Normal just barely fits, yes... ah, what the heck, less diffs to mod! I'll do it~
Low
+1 circle size on Hard please ._.
Topic Starter
Cheer-no
Okay, fiiine... I guess having it that tiny bit easier is never a bad thing. No kudos though, sorry!
Nessuka
/me sadface
OzzyOzrock
mr cat planet
MillhioreF
I wonder what the rules are about adopting maps from banned users, actually
Nessuka

MillhioreF wrote:

I wonder what the rules are about adopting maps from banned users, actually
I guess if the original mapper says it's fine, then it's fine :P
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