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Au5 - Reiteration

posted 2016-01-29T15:53:41+00:00

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C00L

Joined September 2014

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C00L 2016-01-29T15:53:41+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 20 marca 2016 at 11:39:02

Artist: Au5
Title: Reiteration
Tags: drum and bass dnb electronic dubstep jumpy accelerator acc streams wub -Bumblebee- Ambient -Famous-
BPM: 170
Filesize: 6342kb
Play Time: 03:46
Difficulties Available:

Ambient's Expert (5,12 stars, 712 notes)
Bumblebee's Hard (3,56 stars, 482 notes)
Easy (1,46 stars, 196 notes)
-Famous-' Normal (2,08 stars, 344 notes)
Samsara (5,07 stars, 783 notes)

Download: Au5 - Reiteration
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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7th map (with hitsounds) NOTE: IF YOU DOWLOADED THE BEATMAP BEFORE 25/2/16 THEN REDOWLOAD! THE MP3 FILE HAS BEEN CHANGED

I hope you enjoy

Easy - Done by me Done ready for mods
Normal - Done by -Famous- Done ready for mods
Hard - Done by -Bumblebee- Done ready for mods
Samsara - Done by me Done ready for mods
Expert - Done by Ambient Done ready for mods

"Saṃsāra
as the title
its the buddhism word for the cicle of life (slow part) and death (drop)
and the Name Iteration fits as well" -Don-ald Trump

Last edited by C00L 2016-03-20T11:39:19+00:00, edited 53 times in total.

KappaPraise

316 posts

Joined November 2015

KappaPraise 2016-01-29T20:03:10+00:00

hi \o, M4M is here ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

General

How is that background fits for this song?
Nothing special, but next time i recommend place offset of BPM at start of mapping like here 00:22:729 (spinner not considered)
I guess you should add hitsounds "_"
HP drain is too high for this diff 6 should be better MAX 7
Size of background picture wrong (736x522) standart size 1366x768
Make some your own Colours of combo

Samsara

Make more accurate patterns, your patterns looks very random, but streams not straight and very much unnecessary overlaps and sometimes overmap
00:17:081 (1) - what about end this spinner here 00:22:288, silnece him and make slider stars here 00:22:376 end here 00:22:685 (7/8 tick) something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428502 (with 1.5x SV)
00:25:199 (1,2,3,4) - dat drums, thats all your hitsounds? xDD
00:37:905 (4,6) - overlap
00:39:581 (4,5) - fix spacing, this still stream spacing must be same, jumps allowed only after sliders/kick sliders
01:04:111 (6,7,8) - spacing
00:40:199 (1,2,3,4) - weird pattern
01:06:317 (4) - i hear stream here, try end this slider 01:05:964 (3) - here 01:06:405, but here 01:06:494 place circle ... 02:36:317 same part
01:07:376 (1) - 1/8 repeats instead of 1/4
01:15:494 (1,2,3,4) - mmm... may be you should use here same spacing like ohter streamd?
01:16:376 (1) - make it reverse?
01:17:258 (3,4) - i hear 1 slider
01:17:964 (6) - remove this circle
01:19:200 - strong note here must be something clickable
01:27:229 (4,5) - spacing
01:27:670 (6,1) - 1 slider + reverse
01:33:670 - make here this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428753 ... https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428757 ... https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428765 , but not like this patterns that just random =) ... 01:44:964 - same part
01:38:964 (3) - circle instead of this slider
01:39:317 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428798 ... https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428804
01:50:611 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - 2 sliders
02:14:435 (1,2,3,4) - another hitsounds \("o")/
02:41:082 (2) - try make slow sliders like this more creative
02:49:552 (8) - slider
03:04:023 - i guess here same parts like i changed before, check them and fix

Thx for mod, good luck

C00L

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Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-01-29T21:31:09+00:00

WISPG_G wrote:
hi \o, M4M is here ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

General
How is that background fits for this song? no idea haha i just like winter and snow
Nothing special, but next time i recommend place offset of BPM at start of mapping like here 00:22:729 (spinner not considered) it doesnt really make a difference for me tbh
I guess you should add hitsounds "_" probably
HP drain is too high for this diff 6 should be better MAX 7 ok
Size of background picture wrong (736x522) standart size 1366x768 yh mines is too small but specifically 1366x768?
Make some your own Colours of combo hmm ok

Samsara
Make more accurate patterns, your patterns looks very random, but streams not straight and very much unnecessary overlaps and sometimes overmap hmm i like that but sure ill look at it, im not gonna make it straight since thats old style
00:17:081 (1) - what about end this spinner here 00:22:288, silnece him and make slider stars here 00:22:376 end here 00:22:685 (7/8 tick) something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428502 (with 1.5x SV) nah man i like my current pattern, the slider ends there since there is a beat end sound if you listen you can hear it, and i dont like the SV since i especially made it 0,9 since it is a very calm start
00:25:199 (1,2,3,4) - dat drums, thats all your hitsounds? xDD i didnt hitsound that haha i think its the audio settup but i added some claps
00:37:905 (4,6) - overlap em i like it like that sorry
00:39:581 (4,5) - fix spacing, this still stream spacing must be same, jumps allowed only after sliders/kick sliders i put it in like this cause i like the beat sort of jumps if you hear it, im keeping it
01:04:111 (6,7,8) - spacing spacing? you mean a triple inside a stream?
00:40:199 (1,2,3,4) - weird pattern oryt changed that was pretty close together
01:06:317 (4) - i hear stream here, try end this slider 01:05:964 (3) - here 01:06:405, but here 01:06:494 place circle ... 02:36:317 same part changed that and added a circle thanks
01:07:376 (1) - 1/8 repeats instead of 1/4 but the slider is a 1/8
01:15:494 (1,2,3,4) - mmm... may be you should use here same spacing like ohter streamd? nah man it plays really well
01:16:376 (1) - make it reverse? nah sorry doesnt fit imo
01:17:258 (3,4) - i hear 1 slider true
01:17:964 (6) - remove this circle ok
01:19:200 - strong note here must be something clickable ok
01:27:229 (4,5) - spacing nah man like that too
01:27:670 (6,1) - 1 slider + reverse dont know what you mean by that :/
01:33:670 - make here this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428753 ... https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428757 ... https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428765 , but not like this patterns that just random =) ... 01:44:964 - same part fixed a bit of it so that its not that random but i dont like your pattern sorry
01:38:964 (3) - circle instead of this slider no since there is a whooshing sound at that slider
01:39:317 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428798 ... https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4428804 nah sorry like my current state
01:50:611 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - 2 sliders ^
02:14:435 (1,2,3,4) - another hitsounds \("o")/ i dont know how that got there haha i dont hitsounds my maps but i guess it sounds decent
02:41:082 (2) - try make slow sliders like this more creative i think i done it
02:49:552 (8) - slider i like that
03:04:023 - i guess here same parts like i changed before, check them and fix fixed a bit

Thx for mod, good luck

Thank you for the mod :)

Spork Lover

722 posts

Joined October 2013

Spork Lover 2016-01-30T10:56:16+00:00

Hey brah!! M4M for you!

BEFORE YOU READ THE MOD
I'm normally a very picky modder, and I normally give my opinion about the map.
Also, reading the color coding explains the importance of said suggestion.

Color coding

Importance:
Red = Unrankable if unchanged
Black = Normal Suggestion
Blue = Strong Suggestion
Pink = Comment

General

The background is very blurry, and that can be a problem in the ranking process. The background's aesthetics are fine, but the resolution should be changed.
Add combo colours. Some Dark blue and Light blue colours would fit this song, as well as the background, perfectly.
Add hitsounds. Soft hitsounds would fit, and you generally place whistles on the main beat, and claps on the 3rd beat in a section, and finishes on new areas of the song like the start of kiai time.
Reduce the HP from 8 to 7.
Increase OD from 8 to 8.3.
Generally, the spacing is very similar most of the way through the song.
You can't rank the song untill you have a normal or easy difficulty. (Normal would be most fitting)
A song has to be 5 minutes or above in drain time to be rankable by itself.

You should fix the red sections before asking for more mods, 'cause they'll most likely say the same thing :p

Samsara

00:32:964 (7) - Make the end of this slider overlap with the start of 00:34:023 (5).
00:33:493 (8,1) - The spacing, combined with the angle of the stream makes this section a little crazy compared most of the start, consider changing the slider into more notes for the stream instead.
00:39:581 (4,5) - This isn't as crazy as the 00:32:964, but you should still be careful about those.
00:44:081 (5,6,7,1,2) - This could be more spaced. Use the sides and corners some more

01:05:964 (3,4) - Remove 4 of the slider ends, and make a fun jump sequence with 2 more notes taking the slider end's place.
01:10:376 (1,2,3,4) - Pretty sure this part isn't 1/3.
01:18:141 (5) - The angle and shape of this slider is a little weird, consider reworking this slider.
01:24:141 (3) - Make the slider end on 01:24:317, and add a small jump sequence on the new empty space.
01:27:229 (4,5) - Same as on 00:33:493 (8,1).
01:33:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Great patterns!
01:36:494 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Consider spacing this more, a lot of time to click.
01:42:141 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Same thing.
01:44:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - Also a nice pattern, keep those up!
01:55:200 (3,4) - Ctrl+G and move 4 to x:452 y:152.
02:01:905 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Rework this part, Feels randomly placed due to the music having emphasized beats.. Example on how to fix it: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4432962
03:05:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Be careful with this, it doesn't feel like a kick slider stream when you listen to the music. It's a nice aesthetic, but it can result in a fast fail with HP8.
03:11:788 (1) - Ctrl+G
03:32:788 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - Same as on 02:01:905
03:35:082 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - A little awkward to play when every other part of the song has been curvy.
03:37:905 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same thing, but not as important on this section.

There are some places in the song, where you could easily create increased spacing where it wouldn't hurt, but I didn't point all that many out in this mod.
I hope my mod was useful in any way, and I hope I was not too picky :3.
Good luck with your map! ~Spork

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-01-30T12:12:58+00:00

Spork Lover wrote:
Hey brah!! M4M for you!

BEFORE YOU READ THE MOD
I'm normally a very picky modder, and I normally give my opinion about the map.
Also, reading the color coding explains the importance of said suggestion.

Color coding
Importance:
Red = Unrankable if unchanged
Black = Normal Suggestion
Blue = Strong Suggestion
Pink = Comment

General

The background is very blurry, and that can be a problem in the ranking process. The background's aesthetics are fine, but the resolution should be changed. [color=#00FF00]im going to change the bg colour anyway
Add combo colours. Some[/color] Dark blue and Light blue colours would fit this song, as well as the background, perfectly.
Add hitsounds. Soft hitsounds would fit, and you generally place whistles on the main beat, and claps on the 3rd beat in a section, and finishes on new areas of the song like the start of kiai time.[/color] thanks for the advice ill add them in soon
Reduce the HP from 8 to 7. done
Increase OD from 8 to 8.3. done
Generally, the spacing is very similar most of the way through the song. ill change that if i see something pop into my head
You can't rank the song untill you have a normal or easy difficulty. (Normal would be most fitting) yh ik im looking for GD's atm
A song has to be 5 minutes or above in drain time to be rankable by itself. yep

You should fix the red sections before asking for more mods, 'cause they'll most likely say the same thing :p
oki

Samsara

00:32:964 (7) - Make the end of this slider overlap with the start of 00:34:023 (5). done
00:33:493 (8,1) - The spacing, combined with the angle of the stream makes this section a little crazy compared most of the start, consider changing the slider into more notes for the stream instead. sorry i want to keep that :/
00:39:581 (4,5) - This isn't as crazy as the 00:32:964, but you should still be careful about those. i will but again i want to keep that
00:44:081 (5,6,7,1,2) - This could be more spaced. Use the sides and corners some more done
01:05:964 (3,4) - Remove 4 of the slider ends, and make a fun jump sequence with 2 more notes taking the slider end's place. done
01:10:376 (1,2,3,4) - Pretty sure this part isn't 1/3. :)
01:18:141 (5) - The angle and shape of this slider is a little weird, consider reworking this slider. its the weee sound you hear thats why its there dont want to change that
01:24:141 (3) - Make the slider end on 01:24:317, and add a small jump sequence on the new empty space. done that
01:27:229 (4,5) - Same as on 00:33:493 (8,1). no sorry
01:33:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Great patterns! thank you
01:36:494 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Consider spacing this more, a lot of time to click. done
01:42:141 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Same thing. done
01:44:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - Also a nice pattern, keep those up! thanks
01:55:200 (3,4) - Ctrl+G and move 4 to x:452 y:152. done
02:01:905 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Rework this part, Feels randomly placed due to the music having emphasized beats.. Example on how to fix it: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4432962 done
03:05:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Be careful with this, it doesn't feel like a kick slider stream when you listen to the music. It's a nice aesthetic, but it can result in a fast fail with HP8. i changed the HP to 7 and i really want to keep this, maybe the HP change will do
03:11:788 (1) - Ctrl+G done
03:32:788 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - Same as on 02:01:905 changed
03:35:082 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - A little awkward to play when every other part of the song has been curvy. true changed that
03:37:905 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same thing, but not as important on this section. i like this so im not going to change it sorry :/

There are some places in the song, where you could easily create increased spacing where it wouldn't hurt, but I didn't point all that many out in this mod.
I hope my mod was useful in any way, and I hope I was not too picky :3.
Good luck with your map! ~Spork

Thank you for the mod

Shyotamaze

916 posts

Joined December 2014

Shyotamaze 2016-01-30T19:41:11+00:00

Hi, from #modreqs

General

Maybe OD8 instead

Samsara

00:24:494 (7,8) - Fix blanket
00:28:376 (5,1) - ^
00:31:022 (3,1) - ^
00:37:375 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:39:581 (4,5) - Collides
01:04:111 (6,7,8) - Not sure about this, can be really tricky
01:05:258 (2) - Reverse
01:05:611 (4) - ^
01:05:787 (1,2) - Too much spaced
01:05:964 (3) - Reverse
01:08:964 (4,5) - Collides
01:14:788 (4,5) - Fix blanket
01:27:229 (4,5) - Collides
01:35:788 (1,2,3,4,5) - Too much spaced
02:34:111 (6,7,8) - Can be really tricky, remember it's a 5* map not 6* so it's unnecessary imo
02:34:905 (7,8,1) - ^
02:36:141 (1,2) - Too much spaced

Nice song, good luck!

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-01-30T21:12:13+00:00

Shyotamaze wrote:
Hi, from #modreqs

General
Maybe OD8 instead i had that and previous mod said i should change it, ill just keep it as it is
Samsara
00:24:494 (7,8) - Fix blanket fixed
00:28:376 (5,1) - ^ fixed
00:31:022 (3,1) - ^ fixed
00:37:375 (1,2,3,4) - ^ fixed
00:39:581 (4,5) - Collides kepping this buddy because of the music drop
01:04:111 (6,7,8) - Not sure about this, can be really tricky i dont think its tricky and i didnt want a continuos stream as well
01:05:258 (2) - Reverse fixed
01:05:611 (4) - ^ this im keeping flows well
01:05:787 (1,2) - Too much spaced fixed
01:05:964 (3) - Reverse fixed
01:08:964 (4,5) - Collides keeping those
01:14:788 (4,5) - Fix blanket fixed
01:27:229 (4,5) - Collides keeping those
01:35:788 (1,2,3,4,5) - Too much spaced its not rly it plays nicelly too
02:34:111 (6,7,8) - Can be really tricky, remember it's a 5* map not 6* so it's unnecessary imo keeping that
02:34:905 (7,8,1) - ^ fixed
02:36:141 (1,2) - Too much spaced fixed
Nice song, good luck!

Thanks for the mod buddy

Alheak

910 posts

Joined November 2013

Alheak 2016-01-30T23:26:34+00:00

ey M4M

This will be more of a general mod or feedback, no case by case or detail picking

[General]

"Source" is reserved for a series, anime, film or video game, otherwise, don't write anything there, so please remvoe "Electronic Music"
Do you have a reason for OD8.3? If not you should just put OD8
you don't need two bg images, only one can be used per difficulty, and it should be the highest resolution one
Your .mp3 is only 128kbps, if you can, try getting a better quality one of 192kbps
Offset is 157, after you've changed it, go in F6, select all your green sections and move their offsets by 16, check "snap objects" and "adjust bookmarks" before clicking "OK"
Do not use dark combo colours, most experienced players play with dim on, so dark colours blend in the background, rendering them really hard to see

[Samsara]

For NCs, I'd recommend only placing one every measure, unless it's a slower part. You can add exeptionnal NCs after on jumps, unusual rhythm (1/3, 3/4 etc) or change in SV to put emphasis on them, this shows the player that they should pay attention to this section
Rhythm wise, you should map on downbeats as much as possible as they are the backbone of the rhythm, sliders should begin on them unless you have a big reason not to
Do not ignore strong beats or notes, like 00:23:964 -
Stick to simple but well done sliders for now, while diverse sliders are always interesting and can help to not make your map boring, they can make it look very cheap if not done properly.
Read this if you haven't already: t/37194
Do not be afraid of copy pasting your sliders' shapes, consistency is key in your map's design
Also do not curve your sliders too much unless you want to match a sound in the song, 01:38:435 (2) - this for example is a good curved slider, 01:32:258 (1) - this one is not
Always be on the lookout for overlaps like 00:33:493 (8,5) - , even if this doesn't look like a big deal, they make your map look cheap and messy
Overlaps should always be justified, if you can avoid them, by all means do
You seem to have your spacing down, so i won't talk about it too much, just try to not space your streams too much unless you really feel like it's justified. 01:04:993 (8,1) - this for example is way too much

For the rest, flow, slider leniency, etc, you'll learn it by mapping, i can't really explain it properly and it may be a bit early for you, though if you're curious and still want to learn, try reading this: t/239778

Good luck!

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-01-31T19:32:30+00:00

Alheak wrote:
ey M4M

This will be more of a general mod or feedback, no case by case or detail picking

[General]
"Source" is reserved for a series, anime, film or video game, otherwise, don't write anything there, so please remvoe "Electronic Music" didnt know that o_o so i removed it thanks will remember for the future
Do you have a reason for OD8.3? If not you should just put OD8 yh sure
you don't need two bg images, only one can be used per difficulty, and it should be the highest resolution one didnt know i had 2 lol
Your .mp3 is only 128kbps, if you can, try getting a better quality one of 192kbps i dont know how :/
Offset is 157, after you've changed it, go in F6, select all your green sections and move their offsets by 16, check "snap objects" and "adjust bookmarks" before clicking "OK" done that sounds a bit better thank you
Do not use dark combo colours, most experienced players play with dim on, so dark colours blend in the background, rendering them really hard to see
ill change that if you say so, makes a lot of sense

[Samsara]
For NCs, I'd recommend only placing one every measure, unless it's a slower part. You can add exeptionnal NCs after on jumps, unusual rhythm (1/3, 3/4 etc) or change in SV to put emphasis on them, this shows the player that they should pay attention to this section hmm ill try that thanks for the tip
Rhythm wise, you should map on downbeats as much as possible as they are the backbone of the rhythm, sliders should begin on them unless you have a big reason not to
Do not ignore strong beats or notes, like 00:23:964 - i dont understand this there is no beat here :/
Stick to simple but well done sliders for now, while diverse sliders are always interesting and can help to not make your map boring, they can make it look very cheap if not done properly.
Read this if you haven't already: t/37194
Do not be afraid of copy pasting your sliders' shapes, consistency is key in your map's design
Also do not curve your sliders too much unless you want to match a sound in the song, 01:38:435 (2) - this for example is a good curved slider, 01:32:258 (1) - this one is not uuu thats interesting ill keep a lookout for that thanks
Always be on the lookout for overlaps like 00:33:493 (8,5) - , even if this doesn't look like a big deal, they make your map look cheap and messy
Overlaps should always be justified, if you can avoid them, by all means do ill have a look for those
You seem to have your spacing down, so i won't talk about it too much, just try to not space your streams too much unless you really feel like it's justified. 01:04:993 (8,1) - this for example is way too much fair point, changed that
For the rest, flow, slider leniency, etc, you'll learn it by mapping, i can't really explain it properly and it may be a bit early for you, though if you're curious and still want to learn, try reading this: t/239778 i take your word for it

Good luck!

Thank you for the tips man, really appriciated

Makeli

932 posts

Joined October 2013

Makeli 2016-02-07T14:51:05+00:00

ye

suppreme buddha

this is prolly going to be a kind of general tip thing again. I can definitely see that you have improved from the last time but there is still work to do.

First let's go through your spacing. You pretty much spaced everything equally which doesn't really give any sound the emphasis it deserves. 00:26:627 (1) - for example here. It obviously feels like the song kinda like demands for this to be more emphasized and so you should add more spacing to this. Also you should emphasize kicks and snares more with your spacing.

Now i'm gonna talk about random stuff and do stuff.

00:17:098 (1) - Silencing this spinnerend makes no sense as there is that snare/kick/whatever there
00:26:627 (1) - you can be creative with your slidershapes but try to think what looks good and what doesn't. I don't really base my maps on visual things as I think flow comes first but I care at least this much for visuals
00:27:333 (3) - notice that you're skipping a sound with this slider
00:37:921 (4,6) - be careful when overlapping. Overlaps look good when done in a right way but this kind of overlaps make your map seem kinda unpolished.
00:39:598 (4,5) - you shouldn't do this kind of stuff just randomly. The song should support this (in this case it actually does) but right now you just suddenly introduce this which should have been introduced waaay back in the map. You should introduce this kind of stuff super early in the map so the player is always on edge for this kind of things.
00:43:215 (2,4,6) - with these sliders you're leaving the hardest kick on the sliderend which is not cool
01:01:921 (2) - this slider shouldn't end on that downbeat as the 1/4 starts there. And you don't need that many control points to blanket that sliderend. You can do it with just one
01:04:127 (6,7,8) - this is also something you should not do when the song doesn't support it. It's also kinda random that it starts from the blue tick.
01:05:980 (3) - 1/4 starts from 01:06:156 - again
01:07:392 (1) - that sliderend should be a circle imo
01:07:921 (3) - dude you picked a hard song to map. I suggest you go check out this, this, this and this for reference on this kind of songs since I'm not really the best modder for this kind of songs.
01:51:686 (1) - kinda random that you decide to end this slider on a downbeat
Gonna end this general bullshit thing here.

Now about nc's. Generally it's a good rule to put NC's every measure (in other words that big white tick on the timeline). Obviously in places like 00:23:804 (5) - it doesn't work but then you can just extend that NC for two measures or just split it in half where it fits. And about fitting NC's with the music. You can emphasize the song really nicely with nc's. You can emphasize some kick/snare patterns like 03:32:804 (5,6,1,2,3) - here you could add a NC to every kick and it would emphasize the kicks really nicely. But for now that NC on every measure is a good rule.

Also I'm gonna explain this 00:23:964 - you skipped a sound here. There is that piano or something sound here. And it's not really cool to skip these

I might have forgotten something important but this is it for now. Things I said here apply in other places in this map. The thing now is for you to notice where you make those mistakes and fix them.

If you have any questions about anything in my mod or about mapping in general you can just PM ingame when I'm online (i tend to forget forum pms) since I answer there 100%.

Good luck!

Lumin

224 posts

Joined July 2014

Lumin 2016-02-07T15:33:23+00:00

Mod 4 Mod from #modreqs!
I would change hp a little lower than 7, maybe 5-6 because it's only a 5 star map
00:22:745 (1,4) - Ugly overlap
00:23:274 (2,5) - same
00:25:480 (4) - Y:268
00:27:333 (3) - this slider makes me cringe
00:33:509 (8) - I hear only 2 sounds at that rep, 1/8 not needed
00:34:039 (5,4) - overlap
00:37:921 (4,6) - I don't really like this overlap
01:06:509 (6) - SV starting here, at first amazing build up with streams etc and then. HUGE BONERKILLER, make it faster
01:08:451 (2,4) - slight overlap
01:08:980 (4,6) - same
01:30:862 (1) - bigger jumps between sliders at this section..
01:41:451 (5,1) - maybe a little smaller jump
01:42:156 (1) - SV... make it faster
01:46:745 (2,4,5) - Overlap
01:48:333 (2) - not a nice shape
01:51:686 (1) - remake this, that little turn to left at the end of the slider makes me cringe
01:53:274 (2,5) - Overlap
01:57:156 (6,2) - ^
02:12:862 (1,4) -^
02:32:627 (1) - This stream starting here is nice, i like it
02:38:274 (1) - more SV.. or maybe not necessary but consider
02:50:627 (4,6) - This overlap is a no
03:05:451 (1,1,2,3) - overlaaap...
03:08:274 (1,4) - overlapping
03:16:215 (4,5,2) - overlap
03:29:098 (1) - y:320
03:35:274 (3,4,5,6) - overlaps
03:23:451 (1) - Jumps starting here overall should be harder
Don't make those "flash kiai's" 1-3 big ones that lasts more than 15 seconds

Your sound samples are 100% soft, maybe normal or drum sometimes?

So the difficulty on your map is almost all on streams, your jumps are like 4-4,5 star hard and that doesn't combine well with 5 star streams

Good Luck!

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-02-07T16:36:00+00:00

Maakkeli wrote:
ye

suppreme buddha

this is prolly going to be a kind of general tip thing again. I can definitely see that you have improved from the last time but there is still work to do.

First let's go through your spacing. You pretty much spaced everything equally which doesn't really give any sound the emphasis it deserves. 00:26:627 (1) - for example here. It obviously feels like the song kinda like demands for this to be more emphasized and so you should add more spacing to this. Also you should emphasize kicks and snares more with your spacing. that is right i'll be on the lookout for those

Now i'm gonna talk about random stuff and do stuff.

00:17:098 (1) - Silencing this spinnerend makes no sense as there is that snare/kick/whatever there yep that is correct dont know how i misshear that it was probably that whoosh sound that put me off
00:26:627 (1) - you can be creative with your slidershapes but try to think what looks good and what doesn't. I don't really base my maps on visual things as I think flow comes first but I care at least this much for visuals yea i seen that from the map i modded, it had really nice flow
00:27:333 (3) - notice that you're skipping a sound with this slider are you sure? i can hear a nice sound going with this slider
00:37:921 (4,6) - be careful when overlapping. Overlaps look good when done in a right way but this kind of overlaps make your map seem kinda unpolished.right changed that a little bit and i am carefull to me it looks good though
00:39:598 (4,5) - you shouldn't do this kind of stuff just randomly. The song should support this (in this case it actually does) but right now you just suddenly introduce this which should have been introduced waaay back in the map. You should introduce this kind of stuff super early in the map so the player is always on edge for this kind of things. i need to disagree with this since this is the earliest i can introduce this since the song at this point becomes really strong in beat which is why i put this here something similar at 00:33:509 (8,1) - is shown which is pretty similar to the jump made at the point you suggested
00:43:215 (2,4,6) - with these sliders you're leaving the hardest kick on the sliderend which is not cool emm i dont understand this
01:01:921 (2) - this slider shouldn't end on that downbeat as the 1/4 starts there. And you don't need that many control points to blanket that sliderend. You can do it with just one when i was doing that slider i was strugling with one control point so i just added that many, maybe it is too much but i mean does it matter?
01:04:127 (6,7,8) - this is also something you should not do when the song doesn't support it. It's also kinda random that it starts from the blue tick. right ill change that, i dont think its randomly placed since thats when i heard the beat change-ish
01:05:980 (3) - 1/4 starts from 01:06:156 - again true changed that
01:07:392 (1) - that sliderend should be a circle imo yep i agree with that
01:07:921 (3) - dude you picked a hard song to map. I suggest you go check out this, this, this and this for reference on this kind of songs since I'm not really the best modder for this kind of songs. i will do that thanks for the references
01:51:686 (1) - kinda random that you decide to end this slider on a downbeat its not random its cause of that whoosh sound the slider is placed there
Gonna end this general bullshit thing here.

Now about nc's. Generally it's a good rule to put NC's every measure (in other words that big white tick on the timeline). Obviously in places like 00:23:804 (5) - it doesn't work but then you can just extend that NC for two measures or just split it in half where it fits. And about fitting NC's with the music. You can emphasize the song really nicely with nc's. You can emphasize some kick/snare patterns like 03:32:804 (5,6,1,2,3) - here you could add a NC to every kick and it would emphasize the kicks really nicely. But for now that NC on every measure is a good rule. that interested me ill re-NC my map in some parts since i understand your point, but usually i NC stuff if the beat changes

Also I'm gonna explain this 00:23:964 - you skipped a sound here. There is that piano or something sound here. And it's not really cool to skip these yea ik there is a sound there but i wanted to keep the consistency with the sliders in the previous part of the song, and it doesnt sound that bad anyway imo

I might have forgotten something important but this is it for now. Things I said here apply in other places in this map. The thing now is for you to notice where you make those mistakes and fix them. i will thanks

If you have any questions about anything in my mod or about mapping in general you can just PM ingame when I'm online (i tend to forget forum pms) since I answer there 100%.

Good luck!

Thank you really appriciated

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-02-07T17:11:48+00:00

Lumin wrote:
Mod 4 Mod from #modreqs!
I would change hp a little lower than 7, maybe 5-6 because it's only a 5 star map changed to 6
00:22:745 (1,4) - Ugly overlap true
00:23:274 (2,5) - same i think i changed that
00:25:480 (4) - Y:268 kk
00:27:333 (3) - this slider makes me cringe haha changed
00:33:509 (8) - I hear only 2 sounds at that rep, 1/8 not needed i like that it fills in for those 2 sounds anyway
00:34:039 (5,4) - overlap kk
00:37:921 (4,6) - I don't really like this overlap that's not even an overlap and the second note comes like 30 seconds later lol
01:06:509 (6) - SV starting here, at first amazing build up with streams etc and then. HUGE BONERKILLER, make it faster ?
01:08:451 (2,4) - slight overlap done
01:08:980 (4,6) - same ^
01:30:862 (1) - bigger jumps between sliders at this section.. done
01:41:451 (5,1) - maybe a little smaller jump nerfed a little
01:42:156 (1) - SV... make it faster changed
01:46:745 (2,4,5) - Overlap thats intentional because i was trying to use the stream to go round the slider beginning of the slider start
01:48:333 (2) - not a nice shape changed
01:51:686 (1) - remake this, that little turn to left at the end of the slider makes me cringe changed
01:53:274 (2,5) - Overlap done
01:57:156 (6,2) - ^ ^
02:12:862 (1,4) -^ ^
02:32:627 (1) - This stream starting here is nice, i like it thank you
02:38:274 (1) - more SV.. or maybe not necessary but consider i like the current state maybe if someone else reports this
02:50:627 (4,6) - This overlap is a no done
03:05:451 (1,1,2,3) - overlaaap... done
03:08:274 (1,4) - overlapping done
03:16:215 (4,5,2) - overlap done
03:29:098 (1) - y:320 done
03:35:274 (3,4,5,6) - overlaps thats intentional
03:23:451 (1) - Jumps starting here overall should be harder eh i want to end the song in a calm environment not forcing to overmap but maybe ill consider this
Don't make those "flash kiai's" 1-3 big ones that lasts more than 15 seconds i like my "flash kiai's" i like to make burst during parts of a song

Your sound samples are 100% soft, maybe normal or drum sometimes? maybe one day

So the difficulty on your map is almost all on streams, your jumps are like 4-4,5 star hard and that doesn't combine well with 5 star streams i will look into that

Good Luck!

Thank you for the mod really appriciated

Log Off Now

955 posts

Joined May 2014

Log Off Now 2016-02-11T00:19:19+00:00

~~M4M Placeholder~~

SPOILER

26 days im so sorry

[General]

Tags/Preview/Timing points in Samsara diff conflict with the rest of the map (although I have two copies of Samsara for some reason, so maybe thats it?)

You need a normal difficulty, I assume there is one being worked on, but if not the jump between easy and hard is way too large

[Easy]

Lots of blanket errors in this difficulty, but distance spacing is all good. I'll point out the major blanket issues, but I suggest checking over this difficulty

00:25:186 (3,1) - Blanket

00:33:657 (4,1) - Blanket (although this one isn't super major)

00:34:010 (1,2) - This overlap doesn't look very good :/ Try moving 2 closer to the slider end so you get a better blanket and shape over all, although I would honestly suggest remapping this combo since this is a pretty large flow break for an easy difficulty, maybe instead of returning to the upper half of the playfield, go to the lower half of the playfield and link back up with 00:36:833 (1) -

00:36:480 (4,1) - However if you ignore the suggestion above, I would also suggest fixing this overlap

01:14:951 (3,1) - I'm not sure if this intentional, but you could make 3 blanket 1 for a nice look

01:43:186 - I highly recommend making this beat clickable, you have done in the combo's after it too e.g 01:47:775 (1,2,3,4)

02:01:892 (1,2,3) - Maybe instead of this try something like this?

02:14:245 - Spinner here?

02:32:951 (1,2,3,4) - I think you're missing the important beats here, move these to the large white ticks for better readability and playability

02:56:598 (1) - You should make this slider the same length as the previous since this can potentially be confusing

02:58:010 (1,2) - Blanket

03:00:833 (1,2) - ^

03:06:480 (1,2) - This is another large flowbreak, consider a different direction for this combo

[Bumblebee's Hard]

This map is done in a pretty old style which I don't think i'm too familiar with to give a decent mod on so i'll just generalize this one.

Blankets need a lot of work done and there a lot of (what I assume to be) unintentional overlaps which really hurt the aesthetics of this difficulty, examples for these can be found 00:23:422 (3,4) - 00:37:539 (3,4) - 00:40:716 (5,8) - 01:11:245 (2,3) - 01:23:245 (4,5) - There is a lot to go through, so I've only pointed out up to here since finding these for yourself will be beneficial to you in other maps.

There are some strange patterns in this difficulty, mainly during kiai time there are some misleading repeating sliders which really offset me for parts of the map, an example of this is here 01:34:010 (3,5) - where you have a single repeat and then a double repeat for what is essentially the same things that happen in the music. You miss the bass kick at 01:33:922 - but then you map it and then miss the downbeat at 01:34:627 (5) - which I found very confusing to play, same thing happens here 01:45:304 (3,5) -.

I'll point out a few minor things that are quick to fix, but I would heavily suggest taking onboard the advice above.

01:36:833 (2) - Center this better between 1 and 3? Again would look much better

01:39:833 (2,4) - Try and make these parallel, at the moment there isn't really a reason to not make these either opposite angles or parallel, at the moment they look a bit random if i'm honest

01:51:657 (1) - Maybe make this a circle instead or change 01:51:480 (1) - into a slider and have the slider end here, and then move this spinner to the blue tick and finish in its current position? I feel this follows the drums much better this way

02:56:598 (5,6,7) - Unify distance spacing here

03:18:833 (3,1) - Try and make these parallel for a better looking shape

[]

I can't mod the other difficulties since I'm not very good at modding/making/playing 5*+ maps yet

Good luck with the set

SPOILER

imsosorryonceagain

Last edited by Log Off Now 2016-03-07T21:40:40+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kareov

349 posts

Joined July 2013

Kareov 2016-02-14T05:36:08+00:00

[Samsara]
Sure this is not a relaxing diff, so what I want to say is, oh the spinner in the first sucks.

Make this spinner start at 00:19:921
00:22:745 (1) - Add a whistle here.
00:26:274 (3,4) - Swap this two.
00:34:039 (1) - NC
00:34:568 (2) - Remove NC
00:38:627 (3) - Move down 4 grids
00:39:686 (1) - This slider, should follow the distance snaping, or it's just confusing the players
00:45:333 (2) - Make this far from the last slider, looks cool.
01:04:392 (1) - Remove NC
02:08:098 (5) - Remove NC
02:45:333 (1) - hey man why'd you use an long slider, that ain't exciting ;3 (COME ON MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT)
03:46:039 (1) - Make this far from the last slider, will look cool again.
This diff is exciting ;3 cool!

[Bee's hard]
02:03:951 (5) - This slider should move a bit earlier to 02:03:862, and make it three.

Cool song, look forward to finishing it.

Just saying, your map's new combo is quite confusing to players, but still, looks cool xD

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-02-14T11:02:33+00:00

Kareov wrote:
[Samsara]
Sure this is not a relaxing diff, so what I want to say is, oh the spinner in the first sucks. oh cmon i like that because of the whoosing starting sound and a long spinner gets you a nice start into a nice map

Make this spinner start at 00:19:921 why would i do that?
00:22:745 (1) - Add a whistle here. there is a whistle here
00:26:274 (3,4) - Swap this two. ok
00:34:039 (1) - NC ^
00:34:568 (2) - Remove NC ^
00:38:627 (3) - Move down 4 grids ok
00:39:686 (1) - This slider, should follow the distance snaping, or it's just confusing the players sigh, fine i changed it
00:45:333 (2) - Make this far from the last slider, looks cool. moved up a bit
01:04:392 (1) - Remove NC i have to disagree with tihs since there is a tune rise here and the music builds up at this point thats why there is a NC
02:08:098 (5) - Remove NC tune change i disagree with this too
02:45:333 (1) - hey man why'd you use an long slider, that ain't exciting ;3 (COME ON MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT) man its because of the slow whoosing sound there im not going to make a fast slider here (MAN I TRIED, I TRIED)
03:46:039 (1) - Make this far from the last slider, will look cool again. it is far away
This diff is exciting ;3 cool! thank you man

Cool song, look forward to finishing it. me too, 1 week and all diffs should be up and running

Just saying, your map's new combo is quite confusing to players, but still, looks cool xD im not so good with NC yet :/

Thanks for the mod buddy really appriciated

CernTheLion

165 posts

Joined February 2015

CernTheLion 2016-02-14T14:05:57+00:00

Kareov wrote:
[Bee's hard]
02:03:951 (5) - This slider should move a bit earlier to 02:03:862, and make it three. fixed

Cool song, look forward to finishing it.

Just saying, your map's new combo is quite confusing to players, but still, looks cool xD

Fixed that, thanks for mod , I appreciate it

CernTheLion

165 posts

Joined February 2015

CernTheLion 2016-02-14T14:10:25+00:00

I updated the map, solved the issues and finish the hitsounds, hope you'll like it

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Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-02-14T14:47:54+00:00

Hi, from queue

[Samsara]

a lot of slider shapes you use many times are random or doesn't really fit with the rest or just doesn't look the best 00:39:686 (1) - 00:40:745 (1,3) - etc. I'd suggest you stick with a certain set of shapes instead of using whatever you just think off lol
inconsistencies with spacing. For example in the very beginning 00:23:627 (4,1) - you emphasize 1 very strongly by breaking flow and having large distance but then the following same rhythm 00:26:451 (4,1) - is very close. this is one of the major issues in this diff I recommend you try look up in your map. try to make sense with the spacing according to music 00:31:745 (2,3,4,1) - just an example of poorly executed patern.03:34:745 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - very poor patern because jumps are on very weak beats while strong are left completely unemphasized.
hitsounding could use some tweaks aswell like 00:44:804 (1) - having finish on slider end isn't very good thing 01:07:392 (1) - this also is hitsounded weirdly. I'd actually suggest you try getting some custom samples and hitsound snare hits like 00:23:098 - 00:23:804 - and 01:34:392 (1) - 01:35:098 - in the kiai
a bunch of paterns are either not structured or close to not being structured. I'll just mainly list some paterns that are need to get looked at the most playability wise.
00:33:509 (4,1) - is very misleading and the slider is actually overmapped because it's only 1/4 and not 1/8.
01:05:009 (8,1) - well this stream jump is rather random considering for what kind of difficulty you were going and it just plays not the best.
01:05:627 (4,1) - this kind of doens't play right because you use same gap for 1/2 and 1/4 clicks, simply because short sliders play as circles. should space 1 further. 02:35:980 (4,1) - this is better
01:05:980 (3) - this is suppose to be 1/6 and I recommend making 01:06:156 - clickable and having it as NC instead of 01:06:245 (1) - .
02:36:333 (3,4) - well... it's snapped wrongly because it's not 1/8 and the slider could be a stream instead
02:35:362 (4,1) - same as before regarding stream jump
wow there's a lot of stuff overmapped towards the end, try to avoid it
02:59:451 (1,2,3,4) - bad snapping. 02:59:539 (2) - is overmap and 02:59:627 (3,4,1) - suppose to be 4 1/6 notes
03:09:774 (3,5) - 03:10:304 (2) - 03:11:186 (2,4) - overmap
and more

overall this needs more work, nonetheless I had fun playing it. good luck in improving and maybe I'll see some of your maps ranked in the future ^^

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-02-14T16:39:14+00:00

Strategas wrote:
Hi, from queue

[Samsara]

a lot of slider shapes you use many times are random or doesn't really fit with the rest or just doesn't look the best 00:39:686 (1) - 00:40:745 (1,3) - etc. I'd suggest you stick with a certain set of shapes instead of using whatever you just think off lol ill agree with the first slider yh thats pretty random but the second sliders are ok i feel like that should be their shape, but yh i sometimes do that i just use whatever i think then go over it again and tweek it
inconsistencies with spacing. For example in the very beginning 00:23:627 (4,1) - you emphasize 1 very strongly by breaking flow and having large distance but then the following same rhythm 00:26:451 (4,1) - is very close. this is one of the major issues in this diff I recommend you try look up in your map. try to make sense with the spacing according to music 00:31:745 (2,3,4,1) - just an example of poorly executed patern.03:34:745 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - very poor patern because jumps are on very weak beats while strong are left completely unemphasized. fuck you are 100% correct here that is true lots of these beats you shown are out of specific strong beats ill look over that again
hitsounding could use some tweaks aswell like 00:44:804 (1) - having finish on slider end isn't very good thing 01:07:392 (1) - this also is hitsounded weirdly. I'd actually suggest you try getting some custom samples and hitsound snare hits like 00:23:098 - 00:23:804 - and 01:34:392 (1) - 01:35:098 - in the kiai ill try that
a bunch of paterns are either not structured or close to not being structured. I'll just mainly list some paterns that are need to get looked at the most playability wise.
00:33:509 (4,1) - is very misleading and the slider is actually overmapped because it's only 1/4 and not 1/8. yh thats true
01:05:009 (8,1) - well this stream jump is rather random considering for what kind of difficulty you were going and it just plays not the best. hmm ok ill nerf that jump a little
01:05:627 (4,1) - this kind of doens't play right because you use same gap for 1/2 and 1/4 clicks, simply because short sliders play as circles. should space 1 further. 02:35:980 (4,1) - this is better i deleted the slider you said was used as a sort of circle and just added 2 notes in the space of it
01:05:980 (3) - this is suppose to be 1/6 and I recommend making 01:06:156 - clickable and having it as NC instead of 01:06:245 (1) - . i like that changed
02:36:333 (3,4) - well... it's snapped wrongly because it's not 1/8 and the slider could be a stream instead i also like that
02:35:362 (4,1) - same as before regarding stream jump i kinda did change it but not much since the jump isnt that huge
wow there's a lot of stuff overmapped towards the end, try to avoid it :/
02:59:451 (1,2,3,4) - bad snapping. 02:59:539 (2) - is overmap and 02:59:627 (3,4,1) - suppose to be 4 1/6 notes
03:09:774 (3,5) - 03:10:304 (2) - 03:11:186 (2,4) - overmap
and more fixed all of those
overall this needs more work, nonetheless I had fun playing it. good luck in improving and maybe I'll see some of your maps ranked in the future ^^ thanks man means a lot

ceLy

148 posts

Joined November 2014

ceLy 2016-02-15T13:41:44+00:00

M4M from your queue
[Easy]

Make ds constant, ds change can cause map unrankable in easy diff.00:28:039 (4,1) - and 00:22:745 (1,2) -
Make SV constant, for no a good idea to do that as well.
01:36:156 (1,2) - no stack in easy
01:46:392 (3,4) - ^
03:32:274 (1,2) - use more slider? Objects like those not looks good.

[Hard]

00:22:392 (1) - dont you think this looks not nice...anyway i do...
00:23:804 (4) - ....^
00:26:274 (3,4,5) - werid flow from (4) to (5)
00:29:980 here might be a note compare to 00:24:333 (5) -
00:37:568 (3) - muti reserve really confusing imo
01:08:627 (3,4,5) - can move a little to make these not that tight
01:23:274 (4,5) - almost touch each other, try to blanket better
01:27:245 (9,10) - i suggest not do that
01:43:568 (1,2,3) - looks werid
01:50:980 (3,4,5) - maybe smaller ds is better, it look a little strange with (2) imo

[Samsara]

not so experenced in EX so i give up, sry

GL~

Here my map:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/395781

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-02-15T16:30:38+00:00

ceLy wrote:
M4M from your queue
[Easy]
Make ds constant, ds change can cause map unrankable in easy diff.00:28:039 (4,1) - and 00:22:745 (1,2) - right fixed that
Make SV constant, for no a good idea to do that as well. yh i was wondering if that was ok, but since you mentioned it i will remap those parts
01:36:156 (1,2) - no stack in easy right will remember
01:46:392 (3,4) - ^ ^
03:32:274 (1,2) - use more slider? Objects like those not looks good. yh soz fixed
[Samsara]
not so experenced in EX so i give up, sry no problem dude
GL~

Here my map:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/395781 - will start that right now

CernTheLion

165 posts

Joined February 2015

CernTheLion 2016-02-15T17:32:36+00:00

ceLy wrote:
[Hard]
00:22:392 (1) - dont you think this looks not nice...anyway i do... I think that that's pretty good lol
00:23:804 (4) - ....^ ^
00:26:274 (3,4,5) - werid flow from (4) to (5)what you mean?
00:29:980 here might be a note compare to 00:24:333 (5) - fixed that
00:37:568 (3) - muti reserve really confusing imo fixed that with another slider
01:08:627 (3,4,5) - can move a little to make these not that tight that's not tight
01:23:274 (4,5) - almost touch each other, try to blanket better I improved that a bit
01:27:245 (9,10) - i suggest not do that ^
01:43:568 (1,2,3) - looks werid nope
01:50:980 (3,4,5) - maybe smaller ds is better, it look a little strange with (2) imo that's okay

Thanks a lot for the mod

Saoji

825 posts

Joined February 2013

Saoji 2016-02-16T15:10:11+00:00

Hello, M4M!

[General]
Your set needs a Normal diff! And the gap from hard to Samsara is a bit too big as well.

[Easy]

00:32:627 (2) - About this section. I think it would make more sense to put the slider before the note as it is a downbeat. It would feel way more catchy. So if that's not clear, my advice would be to switch those 2 00:32:627 (2,3) - !
00:35:451 (2,3) - Oviously goes for here too
00:38:274 (2,3) - ^
00:41:098 (2,3) - ^
00:56:715 (1) - It might be not that hard to do, you should mind the gap after 00:56:627 (1) - and place it on the next white tick. It feels more natural and way more appropriate for an Easy diff.
02:27:156 (1) - ^ For some reasons you didn't place this one on blue tick, yet I'd still recommend to move it to the next white tick
01:14:274 (2,3) - The overlap isn't that neat
01:35:098 (3,1) - You missed the blanket.
01:38:980 (1,2) - The flow between those 2 is a bit poor. Ctrl+h 01:38:980 (1) - maybe
01:51:686 (1) - The slow down is no-go on an Easy
02:41:098 (1) - ^
02:45:333 (3) - ^ you didn't even put an NC so there's really nothing to prevent it
02:52:392 (4) - ^ not to mention
03:03:686 (3) - Same for speed up, even harder. Still no nc etc.
02:03:509 (3) - I like this section with those triangles
01:45:686 (2,3) - Spacing is wrong
03:30:862 (3,4) - ^

Hitsounds = 75% of a map!

[Hard]

00:26:098 (2,3,4,5) - The slider (5) creates a really bad flow! Should have a NC on (5) imo
00:40:745 (5) - Not a big fan of that wave, it's not balanced at all and the next notes 00:41:274 (6,7) - feel totally out of the pattern
01:56:451 (2) - ^
02:12:862 (1) - ^
01:23:274 (4,5) - You missed blanket
01:37:568 (5,1) - Spacing is a bit confusing
01:41:804 (1,2) - ^ and when you compare this pattern to the one in my point just above you can see that your NCs are not constant. NC should be here 01:37:568 (5) -
01:57:862 (2,3) - That little overlap doesn't look that neat
02:38:980 (3) - http://puu.sh/na4Aa/f3d1590b06.jpg would look neater?
02:40:392 (7,9) - Try to arrange blanket a bit
02:55:745 (2,3) - ^
03:00:156 (1) - 20% volume sounds more appropriate to hear it
03:01:215 (1,3) - Sliders are in the same pattern and yet they are totally different shaper ... but still looks kinda the same. Try to be more constant in your sliders' shape!
03:07:215 (2,3) - blanket
03:05:009 (5) - I didn't mention it earlier but this is really weird rythme to play, and probably no go in hard diff not sure how to fix it though http://puu.sh/na4LH/887bb0ff54.jpg you really should fix them all (including the first kiai!
03:16:303 (1,2,3,4) - ^ http://puu.sh/na4OF/8e7bd702b5.jpg
03:20:274 (3,1) - blanket! also the shape of (1) feels realy unbalanced

Hitsounds are ok, there's some really good ideas of patterns in this map too! On the other hand, it sometimes lacks of flow, and since you lack of constanticity those 2 reasons gives your map a not-that-neat feeling map. Which is pretty sad.
Oh and I didn't mention it but your NCs are often wrong and once more not constant. I made 1 example, try to fix them by yourself and keep in mind that the most natural way to put NCs is by following the downbeats.

[Samsara]

00:25:215 (1) - Remove NC, not necesseray and feels overdone, not sure why you added one.
00:28:039 (1) - ^
00:30:686 (1) - ^ On this one, I could at least understand as it is to prevent the speed up of the kick sliders but yet it should be 00:30:862 (2) - here!
00:31:039 (3) - bad overlap with 00:30:156 (3) -
00:31:039 (3,1) - Blanket
00:31:921 (3) - That's pretty tricky and I would suggest to make a nice overlap at the end of 00:31:215 (1) -
00:32:804 (2) - Move to x182 y281 to fix blanket
00:33:686 (1) - no nc needed
00:34:039 (1,2,3,4,1) - Cool pattern, too sad the overlap is messed up with 00:34:039 (1) - Take 00:33:509 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - and move on the left in a way that 00:34:039 (1) - overlaps perefectly with 00:34:921 (4) -
00:36:509 (1) - nc
00:39:333 (1) -
00:42:156 (1) -
00:44:804 (1) - No nc but nc here 00:45:333 (2) - to stay natural. OH you did it here 02:15:156 (5,1) -
01:01:921 (2) - NC cause new sv
01:05:804 (1) - No nc (I really don't get that one neither) 01:05:980 (3) - But nc here for the new rythme
01:23:274 (1) - ? ^ Why nc, you didn't to put one here 01:22:568 (2) - which was correct. I kinda get those 01:22:745 (1,1) - but I still think they're overdone
01:23:980 (1) - But get rid off those
01:26:980 (1) - ^
01:32:274 (1,2) - Maybe it's your style I don't know but it would look way neater if you make them symmetric
01:36:509 (1,2) - ^
01:41:451 (1) - Your ncs are a mystere to me
01:55:745 (12) - 01:58:392 (10) - And suddenly you stop adding them... o.o
02:41:098 (2) - NC to prevent new rythme
02:42:333 (1,2) - Fix the blanket
03:00:156 (1,2) - 20% then 30% volume sounds more appropriate to actually hear it
03:00:862 (1) - finish
03:03:156 (4) - ^ with whistle mb
03:06:421 (6) - You could add NC here for the new rythme
03:16:568 (1) - Remove NC, NC goes whether 03:16:392 (6) - here, whether 03:16:745 (2) - here
03:17:098 (1,1) - Spacing way too big, sliderbreak incoming
03:17:804 (1,2) - and 03:18:333 (3,4) - really inconstant spacing as you can see
03:28:215 (3,4) - blanket

That's it, some good ideas of patterns, rythme too. As you can see though I really, sincerly, didn't understand your NCs until the second break where they got pretty much perfect for that matter xD Well this also shows that your map has a problem of constanticity (NCs, DS, probably HS?) Didn't check your HS in detail but you could add some more I think!
The flow was pretty cool overall and as I said there were some great ideas of patterns.

If you don't understand something in my mod or if you have any question, feel free to PM me IG or via forum if I'm not here!
Good luck!

Saoji

825 posts

Joined February 2013

Saoji 2016-02-16T16:56:01+00:00

ups, doublepost ><

CernTheLion

165 posts

Joined February 2015

CernTheLion 2016-02-16T17:20:37+00:00

Yales wrote:
Hello, M4M!

[Hard]
00:26:098 (2,3,4,5) - The slider (5) creates a really bad flow! Should have a NC on (5) imo done
00:40:745 (5) - Not a big fan of that wave, it's not balanced at all and the next notes 00:41:274 (6,7) - feel totally out of the pattern changed a bit the form
01:56:451 (2) - ^ that's perfect
02:12:862 (1) - ^ ^
01:23:274 (4,5) - You missed blanket nope, the blanket there's already :/
01:37:568 (5,1) - Spacing is a bit confusing fixed
01:41:804 (1,2) - ^ and when you compare this pattern to the one in my point just above you can see that your NCs are not constant. NC should be here 01:37:568 (5) - done
01:57:862 (2,3) - That little overlap doesn't look that neat fixed
02:38:980 (3) - http://puu.sh/na4Aa/f3d1590b06.jpg would look neater? nope
02:40:392 (7,9) - Try to arrange blanket a bit there's already the blanket :/
02:55:745 (2,3) - ^ ^
03:00:156 (1) - 20% volume sounds more appropriate to hear it that's too fastidious
03:01:215 (1,3) - Sliders are in the same pattern and yet they are totally different shaper ... but still looks kinda the same. Try to be more constant in your sliders' shape!
03:07:215 (2,3) - blanket there's already e.e
03:05:009 (5) - I didn't mention it earlier but this is really weird rythme to play, and probably no go in hard diff not sure how to fix it though http://puu.sh/na4LH/887bb0ff54.jpg you really should fix them all (including the first kiai! that would be too hard and it would be also overmapped
03:16:303 (1,2,3,4) - ^ http://puu.sh/na4OF/8e7bd702b5.jpg ^
03:20:274 (3,1) - blanket! also the shape of (1) feels realy unbalanced fixed a bit
Hitsounds are ok, there's some really good ideas of patterns in this map too! On the other hand, it sometimes lacks of flow, and since you lack of constanticity those 2 reasons gives your map a not-that-neat feeling map. Which is pretty sad. imo that was pretty full of costancy :/
Oh and I didn't mention it but your NCs are often wrong and once more not constant. I made 1 example, try to fix them by yourself and keep in mind that the most natural way to put NCs is by following the downbeats. not so often...c'mon
Good luck!

Thanks for the mod, that was useful

Here's the updated map

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C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-02-16T18:44:28+00:00

Yales wrote:
Hello, M4M!

[General]
Your set needs a Normal diff! And the gap from hard to Samsara is a bit too big as well.

[Easy]
00:32:627 (2) - About this section. I think it would make more sense to put the slider before the note as it is a downbeat. It would feel way more catchy. So if that's not clear, my advice would be to switch those 2 00:32:627 (2,3) - ! yh dw ik basic theories about mopping, also thats correct it does fell nicer
00:35:451 (2,3) - Oviously goes for here too
00:38:274 (2,3) - ^
00:41:098 (2,3) - ^all above will be change too
00:56:715 (1) - It might be not that hard to do, you should mind the gap after 00:56:627 (1) - and place it on the next white tick. It feels more natural and way more appropriate for an Easy diff. sure, i didnt think a slider start would make much of a difference
02:27:156 (1) - ^ For some reasons you didn't place this one on blue tick, yet I'd still recommend to move it to the next white tick i dont know the reason, the world is weird isnt it
01:14:274 (2,3) - The overlap isn't that neat i dont know how that got there wtf
01:35:098 (3,1) - You missed the blanket. lol it was like so minor i woudnt call that missed :/
01:38:980 (1,2) - The flow between those 2 is a bit poor. Ctrl+h 01:38:980 (1) - maybe eh sure
01:51:686 (1) - The slow down is no-go on an Easy yh man dw i know about that thats getting remapped soon
02:41:098 (1) - ^ ^
02:45:333 (3) - ^ you didn't even put an NC so there's really nothing to prevent it ^
02:52:392 (4) - ^ not to mention ^
03:03:686 (3) - Same for speed up, even harder. Still no nc etc. ^
02:03:509 (3) - I like this section with those triangles thanks
01:45:686 (2,3) - Spacing is wrong wrong? its 1,4 as allways
03:30:862 (3,4) - ^true
Hitsounds = 75% of a map! emm ok i dont know what you mean by that im guessing you mean its 75% hitsounded
Fuck it ill check over the spacing as well

[Samsara]
00:25:215 (1) - Remove NC, not necesseray and feels overdone, not sure why you added one. neither do i
00:28:039 (1) - ^ ^
00:30:686 (1) - ^ On this one, I could at least understand as it is to prevent the speed up of the kick sliders but yet it should be 00:30:862 (2) - here! thats true i did try and do that but your option seems better
00:31:039 (3) - bad overlap with 00:30:156 (3) - hmm thats true
00:31:039 (3,1) - Blanket ?
00:31:921 (3) - That's pretty tricky and I would suggest to make a nice overlap at the end of 00:31:215 (1) - that was always there lol
00:32:804 (2) - Move to x182 y281 to fix blanket oook
00:33:686 (1) - no nc needed ok
00:34:039 (1,2,3,4,1) - Cool pattern, too sad the overlap is messed up with 00:34:039 (1) - Take 00:33:509 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - and move on the left in a way that 00:34:039 (1) - overlaps perefectly with 00:34:921 (4) - the way you told me to do that is you highlighted all the notes you wanted me to move and overlap it on one of the notes that you selected haha, so i just dont it my way i moved 00:34:568 (2,3,4,1) - to overlap with 00:34:039 (1) - doesnt look bad, but im not sure if this is what you ment
00:36:509 (1) - nc
00:39:333 (1) -
00:42:156 (1) - fixed all above
00:44:804 (1) - No nc but nc here 00:45:333 (2) - to stay natural. OH you did it here 02:15:156 (5,1) - yh i done that later since i thought it wasnt as emphasised as the first one but i guess i was wrong
01:01:921 (2) - NC cause new sv ok
01:05:804 (1) - No nc (I really don't get that one neither) 01:05:980 (3) - But nc here for the new rythme yes ik im great with NC
01:23:274 (1) - ? ^ Why nc, you didn't to put one here 01:22:568 (2) - which was correct. I kinda get those 01:22:745 (1,1) - but I still think they're overdone
01:23:980 (1) - But get rid off those
01:26:980 (1) - ^ fixed
01:32:274 (1,2) - Maybe it's your style I don't know but it would look way neater if you make them symmetric they are like that for a reason, since the beat is more emphasised at 01:32:804 (2) - whilst its not as emphasised at 01:32:274 (1) - thats why they are differenct
01:36:509 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:41:451 (1) - Your ncs are a mystere to me tell me about it
01:55:745 (12) - 01:58:392 (10) - And suddenly you stop adding them... o.o haha at that point i was like wtf is this, so i changed them to that, i did check the map again for nc but i coudnt scout any you really helped with that
02:41:098 (2) - NC to prevent new rythme ok
02:42:333 (1,2) - Fix the blanket done, again it wasnt really that bad :/
03:00:156 (1,2) - 20% then 30% volume sounds more appropriate to actually hear it hmm i wanted that quiet because of that sound if anybody else reports it ill change it but so far i like that
03:00:862 (1) - finish
03:03:156 (4) - ^ with whistle mb
03:06:421 (6) - You could add NC here for the new rythme
03:16:568 (1) - Remove NC, NC goes whether 03:16:392 (6) - here, whether 03:16:745 (2) - here
03:17:098 (1,1) - Spacing way too big, sliderbreak incoming
03:17:804 (1,2) - and 03:18:333 (3,4) - really inconstant spacing as you can see
03:28:215 (3,4) - blanket fixed everything above
That's it, some good ideas of patterns, rythme too. As you can see though I really, sincerly, didn't understand your NCs until the second break where they got pretty much perfect for that matter xD Well this also shows that your map has a problem of constanticity (NCs, DS, probably HS?) Didn't check your HS in detail but you could add some more I think! man i was never good at NC recently i got more knowledge about them, and the second part that you seen was re-NC'ed by me i ditched the first part cause i thought it was fine. Oh i was wrong
The flow was pretty cool overall and as I said there were some great ideas of patterns. thank you bud

If you don't understand something in my mod or if you have any question, feel free to PM me IG or via forum if I'm not here!
Good luck!

Thanks for the mod really nice offers

DonMartino

3 posts

Joined January 2014

DonMartino 2016-02-16T22:28:07+00:00

Somebody told me your background looks like crap.
So i conjured this picture clap clap.
Looks pretty decent. Yep

small blue one:
http://puu.sh/naxAd/c51125d23e.jpg

big blue one:
http://puu.sh/naxxy/1a3c77734b.jpg

Don

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-02-16T22:44:23+00:00

DonMartino wrote:
Somebody told me your background looks like crap.
So i conjured this picture clap clap.
Looks pretty decent. Yep

small blue one:
http://puu.sh/naxAd/c51125d23e.jpg

big blue one:
http://puu.sh/naxxy/1a3c77734b.jpg

Don

Thanks Don really appriciated

AlneCraft

83 posts

Joined January 2014

AlneCraft 2016-02-17T10:36:45+00:00

hi~! for m4m from your modding queue

legend: blue - my own preference, up to you. red - something that i really don't understand, or a mistake

Easy

1. CS should be 1, it's an easy map after all
2. 00:33:333(3,4) - frist of all, lol at the timing + number of a circle, secondly, the distance between these two is too big, especially so for an easy map, distance snap?
3. 01:02:274(1) - an object coming right after a spinner without any time to recover is not good on easy. you should probably do something about it, for example move the end of the spinner to the 01:01:568
4. 01:40:745(2) - this slider could be something definitely fancier, something like this
5. 02:03:509(3) - end this slider at 02:04:039 since it goes so much better with the tone of... whatever that sound is called that plays in the background
6. 02:32:980(1) - same as #3.
7. 02:48:156(3) - same as #4. applies extra since it is during a wub wub moment of the song
8. the entire kiai section starting from 03:00:862(1) - more different sliders!!1!
9. 03:12:509(1) - this slider overlaps with 03:11:098(3), not a good thing.

bumblebee's hard

1. 00:19:921(1) - this spinner is weird, it fits the song, but there's no point in the song at which the spinner wouldn't be awkward. go figure
2. 01:50:274(1) - lol that's a wiener. i don't think that's rankable since it breaks the "There must not be any obscene imagery in the background/storyboard/video content." rule. meh, but maybe that's just me though.
3. 02:34:039(1,2,3,4) - might moving these a bit closer to each other?
4. 03:05:009(5,6) - these to are really hard to read, mind making them stand on top of each other?

Samsara

1. 01:15:509(1,2,3,4) - mind moving these objects a little bit closer to one another? i don't think anyone will be able to not miss on this spaced stream on the first try.

good luck getting this mapset ranked! although i don't think you'll need it, since it seems pretty solid!

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

Topic Starter

C00L 2016-02-17T17:40:29+00:00

AlneCraft wrote:
hi~! for m4m from your modding queue

legend: blue - my own preference, up to you. red - something that i really don't understand, or a mistake

Easy
1. CS should be 1, it's an easy map after all do you mean AR? since you cant get CS below 2 lol
2. 00:33:333(3,4) - frist of all, lol at the timing + number of a circle, secondly, the distance between these two is too big, especially so for an easy map, distance snap? that got fixed in my recent remap that i havent uploaded at the time soz
3. 01:02:274(1) - an object coming right after a spinner without any time to recover is not good on easy. you should probably do something about it, for example move the end of the spinner to the 01:01:568 interesting, fixed
4. 01:40:745(2) - this slider could be something definitely fancier, something like this i like that changed
5. 02:03:509(3) - end this slider at 02:04:039 since it goes so much better with the tone of... whatever that sound is called that plays in the background true
6. 02:32:980(1) - same as #3. fixed
7. 02:48:156(3) - same as #4. applies extra since it is during a wub wub moment of the song sure
8. the entire kiai section starting from 03:00:862(1) - more different sliders!!1! oki
9. 03:12:509(1) - this slider overlaps with 03:11:098(3), not a good thing.fixed in the remap

Samsara
1. 01:15:509(1,2,3,4) - mind moving these objects a little bit closer to one another? i don't think anyone will be able to not miss on this spaced stream on the first try.i have to disagree with that since that part is so strong i want it to stand out, and you cant miss that easilly on that part anyway

good luck getting this mapset ranked! although i don't think you'll need it, since it seems pretty solid!thanks man means a lot, just a little bit more work on my diffs and the GD and we'll see what happens

thanks for the mod

CernTheLion

165 posts

Joined February 2015

CernTheLion 2016-02-17T21:19:40+00:00

AlneCraft wrote:
hi~! for m4m from your modding queue

legend: blue - my own preference, up to you. red - something that i really don't understand, or a mistake

bumblebee's hard
1. 00:19:921(1) - this spinner is weird, it fits the song, but there's no point in the song at which the spinner wouldn't be awkward. go figure yeah but that sounds cool lol
2. 01:50:274(1) - lol that's a wiener. i don't think that's rankable since it breaks the "There must not be any obscene imagery in the background/storyboard/video content." rule. meh, but maybe that's just me though. that's rankable, I think that your wrong lol
3. 02:34:039(1,2,3,4) - might moving these a bit closer to each other? they're already enough close to each other
4. 03:05:009(5,6) - these to are really hard to read, mind making them stand on top of each other?changed a bit

good luck getting this mapset ranked! although i don't think you'll need it, since it seems pretty solid!

Thanks for MOD

updated map

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BladesofSteel

192 posts

Joined April 2015

BladesofSteel 2016-02-22T18:43:05+00:00

Hello, M4M request.

Samsara

Lots of funky sliders in this one, eh.

00:23:627 (4,4) - You can have these notes stacked over each other so that 00:24:509 (3) - blankets 00:23:627 (4) - nicely.

00:44:804 (4,1) - The flow looks strange here, mainly because 00:44:804 (4) - 's tail is facing the next object. You could either try to rotate this mini-slider, or convert it into 3 separate hit circles to improve the flow.

01:05:980 (1,1) - Same issue as above. Either rotate 01:05:980 (1) - or replace it with 3 hit circles to improve the flow.

01:13:568 (1,2) - Move slightly more apart so they're spaced evenly without that overlap.

01:25:215 (3) and 01:25:921 (1) - ^

01:30:862 (1,2) - It'd look nicely geometrical if both these sliders where of the same shape, which would make it look more appealing.
01:32:274 (1,2) - ^

01:36:509 (1) - Add a finish on the head?

01:41:451 (5,6) - The sudden jump here seems really random and inconvenient.

01:42:156 (1,2) - Same suggestion as 01:30:862 (1,2).
01:43:568 (1,2) - You got it!

01:47:098 (1) - Remove NC, because it breaks the consistency of how long the original NC pattern was (Every 4 beats)
01:50:980 (1) - and 01:51:333 (1) - ^

01:53:274 (2) - NC here, since 01:51:686 (1) - already takes up a full rhythmic cycle (4 beats)

02:54:509 (6,7) - This sudden stack seems random, and follows no emphasis in the music at all, so consider unstacking them.

02:55:215 (1) - Add finish on the head?

Bumblebee's Hard

00:22:392 (1,3) - I don't mean to be nazi, but you could move them just a little more apart so their not slightly overlapping each other.

00:24:333 (5) - Should be NC instead of 00:24:509 (1) - because it is the first known object in the current rhythmic cycle on 00:24:156 (excluding the tail of the previous slider 00:23:804 (4) - )
00:29:980 (7) - Should be NC instead of 00:30:156 (1) - .

00:35:098 (4) - NC

00:45:333 (1) - Add finish hitsound.

01:05:274 (5) - NC

01:07:921 (1) - A finish here would be more suitable than a whistle just for a start to the chorus, but you could use both hitsounds as well.

01:16:921 (2,3,4) - These sliders sounds really off because you skipped an important beat at 01:17:098. Try this rhythm instead?

This is from 01:16:921 to 01:17:980.

01:19:215 (1,4) - Having these sliders stack over together creates a really messy flow. Please consider remapping these objects so they do not overlap each other.

01:23:274 (4,5) - I hate being nazi, but please fix this blanket!

Please move 01:34:392 (4,6) - apart, or stack them so there isn't that messy overlap happening here. And stack 01:35:451 (1,2) - properly.

01:39:862 and 01:40:392 you can hear the strong wub wubs, so it'd be good if there were hit circles on these points to give emphasis to this. So it would be cool, if you re-arranged the notes here to this:

(01:40:039 - 01:40:568)

01:45:686 - You've skipped a strong beat here in the music. Please consider adding a hit circle here, so it fills that really awkward (and misleading to the music) silence.
01:46:392 and 01:46:568 - ^ Same as before, you can either fill these with notes or a slider.

02:10:921 (5,6) - You could create a blanket here. It's up to you.
02:13:921 (3,4) - ^ Though this would require adjustment for the next following objects.

02:35:098 (4,1) - This flow is quite messy.

02:34:039 (1,2,3,4) - You turned of the DS of here for the sake of not having these mini-sliders overlap, yes? A better option is to remove 1 reverse on each slider, so there is a space in between each ones at 02:34:304, 02:34:656 and so forth.

Then, there's also that other option of having them arranged on a line like this:

So it accommodates the DS. The choice is yours.

02:47:098 (2,3,4) - Overlap is not very appealing. Can you have them curve outwards instead, or just change them into straight sliders?

03:20:274 (3,1) - Consider making a blanket here.
03:30:333 (4) - ^ Same as above, like this:

03:40:392 (1,2) - Move more apart so they're not touching.

This diff needs a lot of work on the flow.

Easy

00:36:862 (1) - You can also resort to making this a straight slider and positioning it at X:184lY:192 like this:

Just so that it helps improve on the neatness of the objects.

00:41:451 (3,4) - Check the DS here. I'm sure they're not spaced properly.

00:44:980 (4) - Add finish to the tail.
01:07:921 (1) - Add finish to the head of the slider.

01:16:392 (1,2,3) - Can be a very confusing flow for beginners, considering how 01:18:156 (3) - is closer to the tail of 01:16:392 (1) - then 01:17:804 (2) - itself. Please consider re-positioning these hit circles.

01:57:686 (3,4,1) - Similar issue here as well. 01:57:686 (3,1) - Are placed closer together than 01:57:686 (3,4) - , which may also confuse new players.

02:15:686 (1) - Add finish.

02:32:980 (1,2,3,4) - It's optional, but you could format these objects to form a nice shape in flow, such as this;

02:38:274 (1) - Add finish on the head.

02:59:451 (2) - Move to X:320/Y:212 and you've got a perfect blanket.

03:11:098 (3) - Add finish on the tail.

03:43:215 (5) - NC.

One thing I'd also like to point out for this entire mapset is the lack of hitsounding. There's not enough additional sounds to the objects to make them seem more...lively and synced to the music. Consider adding them; a pattern of claps, whistles or finishes will be awesome.

Good luck.

Kami-senpai

608 posts

Joined January 2015

Kami-senpai 2016-02-23T02:54:19+00:00

Hey this is for M4M from your queue ^.^. I'm only gonna mod one difficulty so you only need to mod one for mine (Extra preferably)

Samsara

First thing I noticed on my playthrough was that during the drops, there is a lot of overmapping/undermapping (not really sure what it actually is). Basically, you put a bunch of streams and stuff when there's nothing to map it to and you don't account for the orgasmic noises that are going on.

00:23:274 (2,1) - These have a weird overlap. Maybe stack the circle at the first bend of the slider.

00:23:274 (2,1) - The slider bends at a weird angle after the stream. Like its not bent so much that it looks intentional, so it just kind of looks like its out of line.

00:39:333 (5,6,7,8,1) - Keep the slider in line with the stream so it looks better.

00:42:156 (3,4,5,6,1) - Rotate this whole thing by about -20 degrees and it looks much better

01:05:451 (3) - A third short slider here kind of disrupts the flow. I suggest that you continue the circle stream after the second short slider as it will feel more natural.

01:06:156 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move this stream up parallel to 01:05:892 (7) - . It'll give a better feeling of returning to where it came from, if that makes sense. Also you can try putting 01:05:980 (1) - in the middle of the two streams to make it symmetrical

01:07:745 (3,1) - Blanket properly

01:07:745 (3,1) - If you listen to the music, it sounds like a slider should start where circle 3 is. You can preserve difficulty by making jumps bigger

01:11:451 (1,2,3,4) - These sliders seem like they''re randomly mapped. I know its hard to map to a fairly unclear bg music, but I think you should use sliders that end at the 1/4 tick right before the next slider starts.

01:19:039 (1) - NC off for this and NC on for 01:19:215 (2) -

01:28:215 (2,3) - I think these would sound better as a triple stream instead of just two stacked 1/2 circles

01:30:862 (1,2) - These sliders feel so empty and unpredictable since the timing gap is so far. I would suggest adding a single circle between each slider in this part.

01:33:686 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - I know that the music has a constant stream drumbeat here, but there are parts of the sequence that are emphasized, for example, at 01:34:215 (6) - and 01:34:921 (6) - (namely the squeak sound thing). Listen carefully to the landmarks of the song and map to that

01:36:156 (5) - Make this a slider

01:41:539 (6,7,8,9) - The jump for this is too big for a continuous stream and it makes it very unpredictable.

01:51:686 (1) - Ending a slider on the downbeat of a measure is bad practice. End this on the blue tick right before and start NC on the big white tick

02:08:274 (2,3) - Bad overlap here

02:50:098 (3,4) - A triple stream here would be better than two stacked 1/2 circles

02:50:098 (3,4) - A little hard to read, but nothing major

02:59:627 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Not really sure why these are different timings. It's very hard to read, as it seems like they should both be same timing, or if anything, the first triplet is slower. Also, the spacing between them seems too big for a continuous stream.

03:10:745 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Way overmapped. I don't hear anything like this short slider stream in the music

03:23:451 (1,5) - Bad overlap

Overall, it's a great map, just overmapped a bit like I mentioned before. However, with such unique music, this map could really turn into something special. Good luck!

CernTheLion

165 posts

Joined February 2015

CernTheLion 2016-02-23T15:34:56+00:00

BladesofSteel wrote:
Hello, M4M request.

Bumblebee's Hard
00:22:392 (1,3) - I don't mean to be nazi, but you could move them just a little more apart so their not slightly overlapping each other. okay

00:24:333 (5) - Should be NC instead of 00:24:509 (1) - because it is the first known object in the current rhythmic cycle on 00:24:156 (excluding the tail of the previous slider 00:23:804 (4) - ) fixed
00:29:980 (7) - Should be NC instead of 00:30:156 (1) - . ^

00:35:098 (4) - NC nope, that's perfect in that way

00:45:333 (1) - Add finish hitsound. added it

01:05:274 (5) - NC okay

01:07:921 (1) - A finish here would be more suitable than a whistle just for a start to the chorus, but you could use both hitsounds as well. yeah, u right

01:16:921 (2,3,4) - These sliders sounds really off because you skipped an important beat at 01:17:098. Try this rhythm instead? yeah, changed it, thanks

This is from 01:16:921 to 01:17:980.

01:19:215 (1,4) - Having these sliders stack over together creates a really messy flow. Please consider remapping these objects so they do not overlap each other. fixed

01:23:274 (4,5) - I hate being nazi, but please fix this blanket! kind of..

Please move 01:34:392 (4,6) - apart, or stack them so there isn't that messy overlap happening here. And stack 01:35:451 (1,2) - properly. done

01:39:862 and 01:40:392 you can hear the strong wub wubs, so it'd be good if there were hit circles on these points to give emphasis to this. So it would be cool, if you re-arranged the notes here to this: changed but in a different way

(01:40:039 - 01:40:568)

01:45:686 - You've skipped a strong beat here in the music. Please consider adding a hit circle here, so it fills that really awkward (and misleading to the music) silence. fixed
01:46:392 and 01:46:568 - ^ Same as before, you can either fill these with notes or a slider. ^

02:10:921 (5,6) - You could create a blanket here. It's up to you. nope, I won't do that
02:13:921 (3,4) - ^ Though this would require adjustment for the next following objects. ^

02:35:098 (4,1) - This flow is quite messy. arranged it a bit

02:34:039 (1,2,3,4) - You turned of the DS of here for the sake of not having these mini-sliders overlap, yes? A better option is to remove 1 reverse on each slider, so there is a space in between each ones at 02:34:304, 02:34:656 and so forth.

Then, there's also that other option of having them arranged on a line like this:

So it accommodates the DS. The choice is yours. arranged them just a bit

02:47:098 (2,3,4) - Overlap is not very appealing. Can you have them curve outwards instead, or just change them into straight sliders? that's for emphasize the music in that point

03:20:274 (3,1) - Consider making a blanket here. nope man, that should be okay
03:30:333 (4) - ^ Same as above, like this:

03:40:392 (1,2) - Move more apart so they're not touching. done

This diff needs a lot of work on the flow.

One thing I'd also like to point out for this entire mapset is the lack of hitsounding. There's not enough additional sounds to the objects to make them seem more...lively and synced to the music. Consider adding them; a pattern of claps, whistles or finishes will be awesome.

Good luck.

Very helpful, thanks for MOD

updated map

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C00L

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C00L 2016-02-23T21:30:27+00:00

BladesofSteel wrote:
Hello, M4M request.

Samsara
Lots of funky sliders in this one, eh.

00:23:627 (4,4) - You can have these notes stacked over each other so that 00:24:509 (3) - blankets 00:23:627 (4) - nicely. sure

00:44:804 (4,1) - The flow looks strange here, mainly because 00:44:804 (4) - 's tail is facing the next object. You could either try to rotate this mini-slider, or convert it into 3 separate hit circles to improve the flow. em yh sure why not

01:05:980 (1,1) - Same issue as above. Either rotate 01:05:980 (1) - or replace it with 3 hit circles to improve the flow. unfortunatelly i cant agree here since i like that flow and a normal stream wount emphasise the beat as good as it does now imo

01:13:568 (1,2) - Move slightly more apart so they're spaced evenly without that overlap. what overlap?

01:25:215 (3) and 01:25:921 (1) - ^ cool fixed

01:30:862 (1,2) - It'd look nicely geometrical if both these sliders where of the same shape, which would make it look more appealing. they are different shape for a reason because of that hard beat change at the other slider which is emphasised pretty strongly
01:32:274 (1,2) - ^ ^

01:36:509 (1) - Add a finish on the head? sure

01:41:451 (5,6) - The sudden jump here seems really random and inconvenient. 01:41:451 (5,6) - the cymbal sound you hear at this point is what i tried to acomplish here

01:42:156 (1,2) - Same suggestion as 01:30:862 (1,2). same as above
01:43:568 (1,2) - You got it! this is because the beat is really similar so i just copied them

01:47:098 (1) - Remove NC, because it breaks the consistency of how long the original NC pattern was (Every 4 beats) cool
01:50:980 (1) - and 01:51:333 (1) - ^ thats like that because of the jumps and the beat to warn the player of the upcoming section

01:53:274 (2) - NC here, since 01:51:686 (1) - already takes up a full rhythmic cycle (4 beats) sorry but not, i dont place NC at red ticks unless there is a reason for it, i dont see a reason here

02:54:509 (6,7) - This sudden stack seems random, and follows no emphasis in the music at all, so consider unstacking them. cool changed

02:55:215 (1) - Add finish on the head?probably

Easy
00:36:862 (1) - You can also resort to making this a straight slider and positioning it at X:184lY:192 like this:

Just so that it helps improve on the neatness of the objects.

00:41:451 (3,4) - Check the DS here. I'm sure they're not spaced properly.

00:44:980 (4) - Add finish to the tail.
01:07:921 (1) - Add finish to the head of the slider.

01:16:392 (1,2,3) - Can be a very confusing flow for beginners, considering how 01:18:156 (3) - is closer to the tail of 01:16:392 (1) - then 01:17:804 (2) - itself. Please consider re-positioning these hit circles.

01:57:686 (3,4,1) - Similar issue here as well. 01:57:686 (3,1) - Are placed closer together than 01:57:686 (3,4) - , which may also confuse new players. hmm i dont think that matters that much

02:15:686 (1) - Add finish.

02:32:980 (1,2,3,4) - It's optional, but you could format these objects to form a nice shape in flow, such as this;

02:38:274 (1) - Add finish on the head.

02:59:451 (2) - Move to X:320/Y:212 and you've got a perfect blanket.

03:11:098 (3) - Add finish on the tail.

03:43:215 (5) - NC.

One thing I'd also like to point out for this entire mapset is the lack of hitsounding. There's not enough additional sounds to the objects to make them seem more...lively and synced to the music. Consider adding them; a pattern of claps, whistles or finishes will be awesome.

Good luck.

Fixed everything in easy apart from that one point thanks

Arf

901 posts

Joined December 2013

Arf 2016-02-24T17:18:41+00:00

Hello hello, M4M from your queue. Here's my map for M4M: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/403759
Let's get to it then!

[General]
Timing wise, offset 148 sounds better to me for the very first timing section instead of 157. Might want to recheck that.
The Easy difficulty really needs more hitsounds. Adding a whistle pattern on the big white ticks even, something that simple could work.

[Easy]
Even for an Easy, AR 2/OD 1/HP 1 is extremely low. Most ranked maps use something like AR 3/OD 2/HP 2. Would be better to switch to those values imo.
Worth noting that AR 2 makes your spinner recovery time (below) even harder to manage correctly.
Spinners: You use a few of them in this difficulty, and as it is an Easy diff, the amount of empty space you leave after a spinner ends before the next beat needs to be clicked (spinner recovery time) should be larger than 1 or 2 beats (beats being white ticks on the timeline in this case). The Ranking Criteria recommends three to four, meaning instead of this, it should look more like this. (that's just an example of course, having a large white tick in the middle of a slider isn't good either). I'll go through your spinners one by one. Note that as they currently are, all of them will cause you issues if you leave them as is.

Spinner Box

00:17:098 (1) - I recommend you end this at 00:21:333 (1) - instead of where it currently ends, as this leaves you enough recovery time afterwards without having to change much at all.
00:56:980 (1) - ending this at 01:00:862 (1) - would also leave enough room for recovery without upsetting the rhythm. One beat of recovery is not enough for an Easy.
01:05:098 (1) - While the recovery time on this is fine, I'm concerned it may be a little too short for newer players. Seems a little short at least. Leaving this one works, but if you get more worries about it, consider changing it to a slider.
02:27:333 (1) - This needs to end earlier. 02:31:215 (1) - works, 02:31:568 (1) - works too.
02:35:451 (1) - Same concern as with the other short spinner above, check with a more experienced Easy mapper/BN if you can as to whether these are long enough or not.
03:22:039 (1) - Oh boy, this one has no recovery time at all! This is definitely a glaring issue. There actually isn't much room for this spinner here, I would recommend changing it to a slider or something - as it is, the current spinner will not work and it can't really be shortened either.
Not saying anything about the last spinner's length as it's the last note of the map, but check it to be safe.

Distance Snap needs to be completely consistent in an Easy difficulty, no changes allowed at all. This note 00:38:274 (2) - is much too close to the previous slider considering the distance between them on the timeline. You'll need to shuffle this one around a bit. (A solution could be to make a single slider starting at 00:37:921 (2) - and ending at 00:38:274 (2) - which would fit the DS criteria)
Consider having a note here 00:23:804 (2) - and here 00:25:215 (4) - to complete the rhythm more. The second note could even make a blanket with the next slider, like so http://puu.sh/njMqP/db27a00cfe.jpg
The rhythm in this entire section is a bit strange for an Easy. I get what you were trying to do with the gaps, but an Easy difficulty generally uses notes and longer sliders to make the playfield seem less empty instead of this sort of rhythm pattern - this is more reminiscent of higher diffs. In my opinion the rhythm could be made a bit easier by having it follow more beats.
You could place notes on beats such as 00:30:862 (4) - 00:32:274 (2) - 00:35:098 (2) - (this one might be better as a 1/1 slider) 00:37:921 (2) - (this one too) 00:40:745 (2) - (same here)
01:02:274 (1,2,3,4) - Purely aesthetics, something like http://puu.sh/njN1o/b5538eb780.jpg could work here.
01:16:392 (1,2,3) - The flow between these three is a little odd. You move upwards to follow the slider and then down and immediately back up to hit 2 and 3.
I would actually suggest making 01:18:156 (3) - a slider starting at 01:18:156 (3) - and ending at 01:18:862 (4) - it sounds slightly better imo.
01:21:686 (4) - Leaving this unmapped sounds odd, consider placing a note here.
01:30:862 (1) - I'm not a fan of ending sliders on red ticks in an Easy but the sound at 01:31:392 (2) - is too loud to ignore. Consider ending the slider at that red tick and placing a note at 01:31:921 (2) - . Even if you leave the slider as is, leaving the second note unmapped is not a good idea imo. You'll need to shuffle around the following notes due to DS though.
01:34:392 (2) - Consider making this a slider starting at 01:34:392 (2) - and ending at 01:34:745 (3) -
01:37:568 (3) - Please place a note here, it feels so empty

01:38:980 (1) - why is there an empty space after this slider? Place some notes here imo
02:13:921 (2) - This could be made into a long pretty slider ending at 02:15:333 (3) -

The difficulty isn't that bad, but it suffers a little from lack of clean structure. Part of this has to do with the music being wacky to map for such a simple difficulty, and the rest is mostly aesthetics with a touch of rhythm inconsistency. If you could have more blankets and structured sliders that curved in towards each other, that sort of thing, it would boost the visual appeal of your Easy a lot more.

[Bumblebee's Hard]
Since it's AR 8 after all, OD 5 is one notch too low for this diff imo - OD 6 would be better.
00:28:745 (2) - this is slightly too close to the note before it, try moving "1" more to the left and up a bit
01:05:274 (1) - this is too far away from the previous slider, it can really throw you off while playing
01:05:804 (4) - consider having this end where the spinner starts and starting the spinner on the blue tick immediately after that, while still ending on the same white tick it's at now.
01:12:862 (6,7,1) - The gap between these three is massive! The tail of 6, the note 7 and the head of slider 1 needs to be almost right next to each other. You could move 1 a bit further than the other two for emphasis but not this far D:
01:16:921 (2) - this works better as two circles imo, the current rhythm from red to white on a slider sounds strange. It works in many other places in this map due to music but imo not here.
01:17:980 (5,1) - This jump is a bit excessive, try moving it a little closer like this which still keeps the emphasis somewhat.
01:18:156 (1,2,3) - this rhythm sounds extremely odd. You can't quite follow the music here correctly as it is a Hard, but something less complex like this works without causing the strange "repeat slider starts on red and ends on big white" feel
01:23:274 (4,5) - This blanket would look better like this.
01:26:980 (8,9) - While I get what you're doing with these, they kind of come out of nowhere, there isn't enough of a strong rhythm to support them, and there's nothing like it in the rest of the map

01:29:098 (1) - Try placing a note where the spinner starts and starting the spinner on the next blue tick while ending it on the white tick where it currently ends.
01:34:039 (3,4,5,6,1) - Repeat sliders after one another that don't have the same number of repeats are a huge hazard in a Hard. You don't have to represent every single sound in those wubs. A regular slider will work just as well instead of those first two repeat sliders (01:34:039 (3,5) - ) and for the third (01:35:451 (1) - ) you could use a wiggle slider, something similar to 01:27:686 (1) - to get the music back in line. It may seem like undermapping but for playability purposes, I highly suggest that this be changed.
01:40:745 (1,2,3) - Same as 1:18:156 above.
01:45:333 (3,4,5,6,1) - Same as 1:34:039 above.
01:47:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:49:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Understated, but having so many singletaps in a row in a Hard is a bit meh. Keep it to a maximum of three to four and use sliders in there to make it less jarring.
02:40:568 (8) - This jump feels like a bit too much
02:41:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This rhythm doesn't make too much sense but the music here is a bit ??? so I can't really say what else could work
02:47:098 (2,4) - Could be confusing as two very similar sliders having this sort of overlap is hard to read.
03:05:009 (5,6) - this suddenly pops up 3 minutes into the map, with nothing like it in before. Deleting the single note at 5 still works rhythm wise, but as it currently is, it's jarring.
03:05:804 (1) - Consider a wiggle slider instead of repeats, as again it is very confusing to have regular repeat sliders followed by one with a different number of repeats.
03:13:568 (4) - Don't leave this unmapped D:
03:16:303 (1,2,3,4) - Sudden quad out of nowhere too, there's nothing like this anywhere else in the map. You could make this a triple instead.
03:42:156 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Again, this many singletaps in a row is a bit undesirable. Consider making some of these sliders.

Overall this difficulty is decent, it's got good rhythm for the most part, with some exceptions (mostly due to the music being off kilter and being difficult to map) and it works okay, but visuals and structure, while much improved from the Easy, still lack a bit of substance. Some patterns are extremely haphazard while they could be planned a bit more to provide a better visual structure. Lack of blankets and indistinct flow (in certain parts, the flow overall is fine) create a picture of a map that is less polished than it otherwise could be. The rhythm could use a second opinion in some parts (the wubs in particular). Aside from that, it's a nice piece of work and I can see the effort behind it. Good job.

[Samsara]
00:27:156 (2,3) - the flow from 2 to 3 feels a bit unnerving, something like this could work better (flow wise at least, the shape of the slider is up to you of course, but if it pointed at the 4 that might be better)
00:31:039 (2) - Consider stacking the end of this slider on the end of the "3" slider before it
00:34:568 (2,3,4) - I don't get why 4 is so much further away from 3 than 3 is from 2. The music has the same intensity over those 3 beats, and it's the 1 slider after the 4 that should be the furthest away.
(minor) 00:38:627 (3) - this slider might look better positioned like this or even blanketed with the 1 if you had a mind to do so.
01:05:980 (1) - the second time this stream pops up, at 02:36:156 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - you did not use the 1/8 slider for the BGM. While I hear what you're trying to map to, it's faint enough that this isn't needed imo. And if you do keep it, make sure to have it in the other stream for consistency.
01:07:568 (2,3,1) - The flow from 3 to 1 feels off, stacking 3 under the head of the repeat slider 1 provides a better back and forth flow while following the curve of the "1" slider which comes after the 3
01:08:980 (4) - the music makes this sounds better as two circles imo
01:09:686 (6) - this too
01:24:686 (5) - This note can be deleted, I think it sounds better that way
01:41:098 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't think there's really anything here to emphasize the splitting of 6 7 8 9 from the rest of the stream, if you want to keep it for the hell of it you can try, but I don't feel it's necessary
02:59:627 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The 1/6 beats are closer together on the timeline but further apart in play? As a matter of fact there's no warning that this is 1/6 - a better way to do this would be to have a 1/6 single repeat slider in place of the triple, followed by the regular 1/4 triple right after it.

I can see where you're coming from with the rhythm in this difficulty, overall it's pretty nice. The section after 03:23:451 where you have many sliders start on red ticks and end on white ticks doesn't sound too great imo, if you transitioned those sliders to start on white and end on red it might sound better. Other than that, rhythm wise it sounds okay, but again, it struggles a bit with note structure and patterning, something that only comes with practice ;_; It's not bad to play at all, it's decently done, and nearly 4 minutes of mapping, you should pat yourself on the back. I think it needs a bit more work before it can go for rank, but since you still have diffs in WIP you have plenty of time to polish it up. Good job, and good luck!

My map for M4M: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/403759
Whenever you get a chance \O/

CernTheLion

165 posts

Joined February 2015

CernTheLion 2016-02-24T21:10:57+00:00

Arf wrote:
Hello hello, M4M from your queue. Here's my map for M4M: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/403759
Let's get to it then!

[Bumblebee's Hard]
Since it's AR 8 after all, OD 5 is one notch too low for this diff imo - OD 6 would be better. that's a 3.5 stars, that would be more hard than it is already
00:28:745 (2) - this is slightly too close to the note before it, try moving "1" more to the left and up a bit fixed
01:05:274 (1) - this is too far away from the previous slider, it can really throw you off while playing ^
01:05:804 (4) - consider having this end where the spinner starts and starting the spinner on the blue tick immediately after that, while still ending on the same white tick it's at now. ^
01:12:862 (6,7,1) - The gap between these three is massive! The tail of 6, the note 7 and the head of slider 1 needs to be almost right next to each other. You could move 1 a bit further than the other two for emphasis but not this far D: ^
01:16:921 (2) - this works better as two circles imo, the current rhythm from red to white on a slider sounds strange. It works in many other places in this map due to music but imo not here. nope, the sound could be too repetitive imo
01:17:980 (5,1) - This jump is a bit excessive, try moving it a little closer like this which still keeps the emphasis somewhat. that's for emphasize the music
01:18:156 (1,2,3) - this rhythm sounds extremely odd. You can't quite follow the music here correctly as it is a Hard, but something less complex like this works without causing the strange "repeat slider starts on red and ends on big white" feel that's perfect imo
01:23:274 (4,5) - This blanket would look better like this. changed a bit
01:26:980 (8,9) - While I get what you're doing with these, they kind of come out of nowhere, there isn't enough of a strong rhythm to support them, and there's nothing like it in the rest of the map changed the pattern at 01:18:686
01:29:098 (1) - Try placing a note where the spinner starts and starting the spinner on the next blue tick while ending it on the white tick where it currently ends. okay, done
01:34:039 (3,4,5,6,1) - Repeat sliders after one another that don't have the same number of repeats are a huge hazard in a Hard. You don't have to represent every single sound in those wubs. A regular slider will work just as well instead of those first two repeat sliders (01:34:039 (3,5) - ) and for the third (01:35:451 (1) - ) you could use a wiggle slider, something similar to 01:27:686 (1) - to get the music back in line. It may seem like undermapping but for playability purposes, I highly suggest that this be changed. made a little improvement, but not the 'wiggle' slider, that wouldn't emphasize the music
01:40:745 (1,2,3) - Same as 1:18:156 above. that should be perfect imo
01:45:333 (3,4,5,6,1) - Same as 1:34:039 above. ^
01:47:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:49:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Understated, but having so many singletaps in a row in a Hard is a bit meh. Keep it to a maximum of three to four and use sliders in there to make it less jarring. okay, fixed
02:40:568 (8) - This jump feels like a bit too much that's for emphasize the music
02:41:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This rhythm doesn't make too much sense but the music here is a bit ??? so I can't really say what else could work okay, lol
02:47:098 (2,4) - Could be confusing as two very similar sliders having this sort of overlap is hard to read. I don't think so
03:05:009 (5,6) - this suddenly pops up 3 minutes into the map, with nothing like it in before. Deleting the single note at 5 still works rhythm wise, but as it currently is, it's jarring. fixed
03:05:804 (1) - Consider a wiggle slider instead of repeats, as again it is very confusing to have regular repeat sliders followed by one with a different number of repeats. I won't do that :/
03:13:568 (4) - Don't leave this unmapped D: okay, lol
03:16:303 (1,2,3,4) - Sudden quad out of nowhere too, there's nothing like this anywhere else in the map. You could make this a triple instead. changed just a bit
03:42:156 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Again, this many singletaps in a row is a bit undesirable. Consider making some of these sliders. fixed

Overall this difficulty is decent, it's got good rhythm for the most part, with some exceptions (mostly due to the music being off kilter and being difficult to map) and it works okay, but visuals and structure, while much improved from the Easy, still lack a bit of substance. Some patterns are extremely haphazard while they could be planned a bit more to provide a better visual structure. Lack of blankets and indistinct flow (in certain parts, the flow overall is fine) create a picture of a map that is less polished than it otherwise could be. The rhythm could use a second opinion in some parts (the wubs in particular). Aside from that, it's a nice piece of work and I can see the effort behind it. Good job.

My map for M4M: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/403759
Whenever you get a chance \O/

Thanks a lot, good luck \o/

updated map ^^

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Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Ambient 2016-02-24T23:37:48+00:00

Heyyyy sorry this took a while but MAN this was challenging to map, and fun of course

So here it is for the mean time, since I still need to fiddle around with it a bit more but may as well get some mods in, hope you enjoy it!

Maaaaaaaap

osu file format v14

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C00L

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C00L 2016-02-25T17:57:11+00:00

Kami-senpai wrote:
Hey this is for M4M from your queue ^.^. I'm only gonna mod one difficulty so you only need to mod one for mine (Extra preferably)

Samsara

First thing I noticed on my playthrough was that during the drops, there is a lot of overmapping/undermapping (not really sure what it actually is). Basically, you put a bunch of streams and stuff when there's nothing to map it to and you don't account for the orgasmic noises that are going on.

00:23:274 (2,1) - These have a weird overlap. Maybe stack the circle at the first bend of the slider. its not that random its intentional because of DS

00:23:274 (2,1) - The slider bends at a weird angle after the stream. Like its not bent so much that it looks intentional, so it just kind of looks like its out of line. ik ik ik and i dont like it but i like how it goes with the stream afterwards it like nicely blankets the whole stream construction and i think you ment this slider 00:25:568 (1) -

00:39:333 (5,6,7,8,1) - Keep the slider in line with the stream so it looks better. thats intentional since then there is a blanket with 00:39:421 (6) -

00:42:156 (3,4,5,6,1) - Rotate this whole thing by about -20 degrees and it looks much better true

01:05:451 (3) - A third short slider here kind of disrupts the flow. I suggest that you continue the circle stream after the second short slider as it will feel more natural. that is a really nice suggestion

01:06:156 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move this stream up parallel to 01:05:892 (7) - . It'll give a better feeling of returning to where it came from, if that makes sense. Also you can try putting 01:05:980 (1) - in the middle of the two streams to make it symmetrical oryt the symetrical stream sure but the slider i want to keep because of that beat change that occurs at the slider i want to emphasise that rather than continue with a normal stream

01:07:745 (3,1) - Blanket properly kk

01:07:745 (3,1) - If you listen to the music, it sounds like a slider should start where circle 3 is. You can preserve difficulty by making jumps bigger it starts here because of the wuuuub sound

01:11:451 (1,2,3,4) - These sliders seem like they''re randomly mapped. I know its hard to map to a fairly unclear bg music, but I think you should use sliders that end at the 1/4 tick right before the next slider starts. there not randomly mapped there are there because of that beat and the suggestion you made sounds terrible imo

01:19:039 (1) - NC off for this and NC on for 01:19:215 (2) - oki

01:28:215 (2,3) - I think these would sound better as a triple stream instead of just two stacked 1/2 circles so do i

01:30:862 (1,2) - These sliders feel so empty and unpredictable since the timing gap is so far. I would suggest adding a single circle between each slider in this part. when i was mapping it for the first time i did do that, but i thought that it sounds really bad and just unecesarry so i just left it

01:33:686 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - I know that the music has a constant stream drumbeat here, but there are parts of the sequence that are emphasized, for example, at 01:34:215 (6) - and 01:34:921 (6) - (namely the squeak sound thing). Listen carefully to the landmarks of the song and map to that it is mapped like that to those squeaky things

01:36:156 (5) - Make this a slider oryt

01:41:539 (6,7,8,9) - The jump for this is too big for a continuous stream and it makes it very unpredictable. the jump is fine cmon man it plays fantastic too, its also there because of the whoosing changing sound

01:51:686 (1) - Ending a slider on the downbeat of a measure is bad practice. End this on the blue tick right before and start NC on the big white tick ok

02:08:274 (2,3) - Bad overlap here true fixed

02:50:098 (3,4) - A triple stream here would be better than two stacked 1/2 circles true

02:50:098 (3,4) - A little hard to read, but nothing major ?

02:59:627 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Not really sure why these are different timings. It's very hard to read, as it seems like they should both be same timing, or if anything, the first triplet is slower. Also, the spacing between them seems too big for a continuous stream. this is really hard to read and play dw i seen that when i mapped it and the timing is different since its a 1/6 section if you listen at 25% you will hear it. But overal that was fixed

03:10:745 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Way overmapped. I don't hear anything like this short slider stream in the music its basicly like a stream with those slider just a little jumpier and i dont think that is overmap, it would have been overmapped if the DS was like 7,0 or something

03:23:451 (1,5) - Bad overlap fixed

Overall, it's a great map, just overmapped a bit like I mentioned before. However, with such unique music, this map could really turn into something special. Good luck!

Arf wrote:
Hello hello, M4M from your queue. Here's my map for M4M: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/403759
Let's get to it then!

[General]
Timing wise, offset 148 sounds better to me for the very first timing section instead of 157. Might want to recheck that.
The Easy difficulty really needs more hitsounds. Adding a whistle pattern on the big white ticks even, something that simple could work. Believe me or not i had that at the time being and i got told to change it by like a mod that was really experienced imo so i didnt question it although it didnt sound as good, Thank you for pointing that out
LOL mp3 got changed so

[Easy]
Even for an Easy, AR 2/OD 1/HP 1 is extremely low. Most ranked maps use something like AR 3/OD 2/HP 2. Would be better to switch to those values imo.
Worth noting that AR 2 makes your spinner recovery time (below) even harder to manage correctly. eh i dont mind that much i like it as it is ill leave it for now maybe change it if somebody else mentions it
Spinners: You use a few of them in this difficulty, and as it is an Easy diff, the amount of empty space you leave after a spinner ends before the next beat needs to be clicked (spinner recovery time) should be larger than 1 or 2 beats (beats being white ticks on the timeline in this case). The Ranking Criteria recommends three to four, meaning instead of this, it should look more like this. (that's just an example of course, having a large white tick in the middle of a slider isn't good either). I'll go through your spinners one by one. Note that as they currently are, all of them will cause you issues if you leave them as is.

Spinner Box
00:17:098 (1) - I recommend you end this at 00:21:333 (1) - instead of where it currently ends, as this leaves you enough recovery time afterwards without having to change much at all. yep changed
00:56:980 (1) - ending this at 01:00:862 (1) - would also leave enough room for recovery without upsetting the rhythm. One beat of recovery is not enough for an Easy. ^
01:05:098 (1) - While the recovery time on this is fine, I'm concerned it may be a little too short for newer players. Seems a little short at least. Leaving this one works, but if you get more worries about it, consider changing it to a slider. hmm im not sure a slider would fit to that beat so for now thats a no
02:27:333 (1) - This needs to end earlier. 02:31:215 (1) - works, 02:31:568 (1) - works too.
02:35:451 (1) - Same concern as with the other short spinner above, check with a more experienced Easy mapper/BN if you can as to whether these are long enough or not.
03:22:039 (1) - Oh boy, this one has no recovery time at all! This is definitely a glaring issue. There actually isn't much room for this spinner here, I would recommend changing it to a slider or something - as it is, the current spinner will not work and it can't really be shortened either.
Not saying anything about the last spinner's length as it's the last note of the map, but check it to be safe.just fixed everything except of that one

Distance Snap needs to be completely consistent in an Easy difficulty, no changes allowed at all. This note 00:38:274 (2) - is much too close to the previous slider considering the distance between them on the timeline. You'll need to shuffle this one around a bit. (A solution could be to make a single slider starting at 00:37:921 (2) - and ending at 00:38:274 (2) - which would fit the DS criteria) cool thanks for spotting that, was prolly half asleep at that point
Consider having a note here 00:23:804 (2) - and here 00:25:215 (4) - to complete the rhythm more. The second note could even make a blanket with the next slider, like so http://puu.sh/njMqP/db27a00cfe.jpg yep
The rhythm in this entire section is a bit strange for an Easy. I get what you were trying to do with the gaps, but an Easy difficulty generally uses notes and longer sliders to make the playfield seem less empty instead of this sort of rhythm pattern - this is more reminiscent of higher diffs. In my opinion the rhythm could be made a bit easier by having it follow more beats.
You could place notes on beats such as 00:30:862 (4) - 00:32:274 (2) - 00:35:098 (2) - (this one might be better as a 1/1 slider) 00:37:921 (2) - (this one too) 00:40:745 (2) - (same here) changed
01:02:274 (1,2,3,4) - Purely aesthetics, something like http://puu.sh/njN1o/b5538eb780.jpg could work here. ^
01:16:392 (1,2,3) - The flow between these three is a little odd. You move upwards to follow the slider and then down and immediately back up to hit 2 and 3. ^
I would actually suggest making 01:18:156 (3) - a slider starting at 01:18:156 (3) - and ending at 01:18:862 (4) - it sounds slightly better imo.
01:21:686 (4) - Leaving this unmapped sounds odd, consider placing a note here. i think i done it
01:30:862 (1) - I'm not a fan of ending sliders on red ticks in an Easy but the sound at 01:31:392 (2) - is too loud to ignore. Consider ending the slider at that red tick and placing a note at 01:31:921 (2) - . Even if you leave the slider as is, leaving the second note unmapped is not a good idea imo. You'll need to shuffle around the following notes due to DS though. ^
01:34:392 (2) - Consider making this a slider starting at 01:34:392 (2) - and ending at 01:34:745 (3) - eh
01:37:568 (3) - Please place a note here, it feels so empty ok
01:38:980 (1) - why is there an empty space after this slider? Place some notes here imo ok
02:13:921 (2) - This could be made into a long pretty slider ending at 02:15:333 (3) - eh

The difficulty isn't that bad, but it suffers a little from lack of clean structure. Part of this has to do with the music being wacky to map for such a simple difficulty, and the rest is mostly aesthetics with a touch of rhythm inconsistency. If you could have more blankets and structured sliders that curved in towards each other, that sort of thing, it would boost the visual appeal of your Easy a lot more.

[Samsara]
00:27:156 (2,3) - the flow from 2 to 3 feels a bit unnerving, something like this could work better (flow wise at least, the shape of the slider is up to you of course, but if it pointed at the 4 that might be better)
00:31:039 (2) - Consider stacking the end of this slider on the end of the "3" slider before it hmm i wanted to do that once, but the reason for that slider being there is because of the blanket with 00:31:186 (1) -
00:34:568 (2,3,4) - I don't get why 4 is so much further away from 3 than 3 is from 2. The music has the same intensity over those 3 beats, and it's the 1 slider after the 4 that should be the furthest away. fair point
(minor) 00:38:627 (3) - this slider might look better positioned like this or even blanketed with the 1 if you had a mind to do so. oki
01:05:980 (1) - the second time this stream pops up, at 02:36:156 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - you did not use the 1/8 slider for the BGM. While I hear what you're trying to map to, it's faint enough that this isn't needed imo. And if you do keep it, make sure to have it in the other stream for consistency. ill se about the other stream but i dont want to change that
01:07:568 (2,3,1) - The flow from 3 to 1 feels off, stacking 3 under the head of the repeat slider 1 provides a better back and forth flow while following the curve of the "1" slider which comes after the 3 eh i like it that way
01:08:980 (4) - the music makes this sounds better as two circles imo nope sorry
01:09:686 (6) - this too ^
01:24:686 (5) - This note can be deleted, I think it sounds better that way true
01:41:098 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't think there's really anything here to emphasize the splitting of 6 7 8 9 from the rest of the stream, if you want to keep it for the hell of it you can try, but I don't feel it's necessary thats there because of the beat that calms down (every mod mentions this i feel like soon i will change it :/)
02:59:627 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The 1/6 beats are closer together on the timeline but further apart in play? As a matter of fact there's no warning that this is 1/6 - a better way to do this would be to have a 1/6 single repeat slider in place of the triple, followed by the regular 1/4 triple right after it. changed

I can see where you're coming from with the rhythm in this difficulty, overall it's pretty nice. The section after 03:23:451 where you have many sliders start on red ticks and end on white ticks doesn't sound too great imo, if you transitioned those sliders to start on white and end on red it might sound better. Other than that, rhythm wise it sounds okay, but again, it struggles a bit with note structure and patterning, something that only comes with practice ;_; It's not bad to play at all, it's decently done, and nearly 4 minutes of mapping, you should pat yourself on the back. I think it needs a bit more work before it can go for rank, but since you still have diffs in WIP you have plenty of time to polish it up. Good job, and good luck! thanks man

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Whenever you get a chance \O/

Thanks for the mods guys really appriciated

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