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Any maps to help me do mini-streams?

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The Actor
51 posts
Joined October 2015
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The Actor
I always fail maps about 2/3 of the time because of mini-streams.
I play offline alot and waste like 1 hour a day playing mini-stream practice maps.

When I transition from 1/3 to mini-streams, I will 60% of the time get 100's and 50's on the last 4 notes.

Obviously the answer would be to play more, but I've been playing offline for about 5 months and playing online for about 3 months.
So I really just want some advice.

Sorry for my bad english, English was not my first language ^^
Endaris
5,282 posts
Joined June 2010
Endaris
Hi,
it would be helpful if you explained what you understand as a "mini-stream".
3 notes close to each other? 5 notes? Or 8?
The Actor
51 posts
Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
The Actor

Endaris wrote:

Hi,
it would be helpful if you explained what you understand as a "mini-stream".
3 notes close to each other? 5 notes? Or 8?
About 8~12 notes that are spread apart wide.
Barusamikosu
1,100 posts
Joined July 2014
Barusamikosu

The Actor wrote:

About 8~12 notes that are spread apart wide.
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/147327
Endaris
5,282 posts
Joined June 2010
Endaris
Hm, generally speaking:
Hitting the last notes of such streams 100s or 50s means that you are unable to hold the speed of the stream. Either you lack the feel for the speed of the stream and overstream it(=you hit the notes too early) or your fingers lack stamina to go fast enough for the whole stream and you start hitting too late(=understreaming). It is also possible to understream due to lacking the feel for the speed but that is rare, most people will go too fast because they are subconsciously afraid of being too slow.

Suitable practice maps would depend on what your actual problem is. I would suggest you to enable the hit error bar(just type "hit error" when in the options) and watch a replay of yours to see whether you are over- or understreaming.


On a different note: I just took a look at your profile and based on what I see there it is rather likely that you are not 100% comfortable with triples yet which is the base to learn streams.
Nabel_old_1
Nabel_old_1
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/114332?
The Actor
51 posts
Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
The Actor

Endaris wrote:

Hm, generally speaking:
Hitting the last notes of such streams 100s or 50s means that you are unable to hold the speed of the stream. Either you lack the feel for the speed of the stream and overstream it(=you hit the notes too early) or your fingers lack stamina to go fast enough for the whole stream and you start hitting too late(=understreaming). It is also possible to understream due to lacking the feel for the speed but that is rare, most people will go too fast because they are subconsciously afraid of being too slow.

Suitable practice maps would depend on what your actual problem is. I would suggest you to enable the hit error bar(just type "hit error" when in the options) and watch a replay of yours to see whether you are over- or understreaming.


On a different note: I just took a look at your profile and based on what I see there it is rather likely that you are not 100% comfortable with triples yet which is the base to learn streams.
You are correct, I cannot do multiple triples. I am actually understreaming, because I try to relax my muscles when I stream but it ends up as something that ends with horrible accuracy(EX:About 3/4th the map I get about 97 acc and fail that one mini-stream and it lowers from 97 -> 93).
Endaris
5,282 posts
Joined June 2010
Endaris
Play more triples then!
The more notes in the stream the harder it is to keep the speed up.
Unfortunately I don't have easy maps that adress triples specifically but they occur at literally any slower map above 3* so I'd suggest you to play more different maps.
Right now it looks like you rather play easy Insanes for a pass with high combo.

Try this map for example:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/178489
It's only OD6 so it's fairly doable to get good accuracy on it, the rest is just about pattern practice!

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/132750
Very difficult triple map, I don't think it's good for practice, more to check how good you are already.

/edit:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/19188
This should also work out.
The Actor
51 posts
Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
The Actor

Endaris wrote:

Play more triples then!
The more notes in the stream the harder it is to keep the speed up.
Unfortunately I don't have easy maps that adress triples specifically but they occur at literally any slower map above 3* so I'd suggest you to play more different maps.
Right now it looks like you rather play easy Insanes for a pass with high combo.

Try this map for example:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/178489
It's only OD6 so it's fairly doable to get good accuracy on it, the rest is just about pattern practice!

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/132750
Very difficult triple map, I don't think it's good for practice, more to check how good you are already.
I just choose any insane maps that are newly ranked, can you recommend me what you would call a "Hard" Insane map?

And thank you for all the help :)
Nabel_old_1
Nabel_old_1
imo harder insane maps are maps like https://osu.ppy.sh/b/313899 that require good reading and finger control to high acc fc.
The Actor
51 posts
Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
The Actor

Nabel wrote:

imo harder insane maps are maps like https://osu.ppy.sh/b/313899 that require good reading and finger control to high acc fc.
Okay. RIP my fingers
Yuudachi-kun
5,432 posts
Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/31814
Endaris
5,282 posts
Joined June 2010
Endaris
Hard Insane maps obviously lean rather to 5* but there are also some pretty difficult Insane-difficulties at a lower star rating.

Stuff like
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/558049
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/54708
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/653547
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/451227

It always depends on the perspective though, some people are better at such maps than others. You don't really want to play these yet.
Your accuracy is also really low so you should really aim to get good at 3.5* first - good like in fullcombo with 95% acc or better.
The Actor
51 posts
Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
The Actor

Endaris wrote:

Hard Insane maps obviously lean rather to 5* but there are also some pretty difficult Insane-difficulties at a lower star rating.

Stuff like
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/558049
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/54708
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/653547
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/451227

It always depends on the perspective though, some people are better at such maps than others. You don't really want to play these yet.
Your accuracy is also really low so you should really aim to get good at 3.5* first - good like in fullcombo with 95% acc or better.
I've gotten to used to 4*+ maps that I just can't even play 3.5* anymore. I did get many 94~96 accs on 3.5* when I was in about 4 months. But then again it was offline and I was a really bad player at that time as well.
The Actor
51 posts
Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
The Actor
Thank you for all the help everyone. I won't really play 3.5* maps as I just feel that it's too slow.

I will try to work on my finger control, and try some more techniques. And try coming back to the maps that was posted in here.

Thank you everyone!!
7ambda
2,560 posts
Joined January 2015
7ambda
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/85802 (Another)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/267767 (Asagi's Insane)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/153776 (Insane)
The Actor
51 posts
Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
The Actor
http://s9.postimg.org/7z75lgtzx/Unti21241ed.png
First try, It was a fun map I guess.

Neko seems to be a bit harder. Thank you for posting
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