Only changed one or two things ;\
Widescreen: it's already off for me, maybe luxo messed it up somehow
Spinner: no. Spinners are used as gap fillers for me, and I almost never put any at the end of the song, it's not osu!standard. The final D serves as a satisfying finisher and any note after that would waste that.
00:05:645 - yup, vocals only please
00:18:562 - so from 00:05:229 onwards up to 00:20:229 you can see that I alternate d and k for the first beat of every measure. So 00:18:979 (54) must be k. 00:18:145 (51,52) and 00:18:979 (54,55) both as k --> d would then match pitch.
00:25:229 to 00:40:229 - here, I do not intend to match the vocals at all. This is an example of a place where both vocals and drums are diverse enough to allow mapping to either channel, and not necessarily both. So, for Muzu I mapped to vocals since it's simpler, and for Oni I mapped to drums because it's more complex. All of your suggestions would make sense if I mapped to both vocals and drums, but since I'm not, they're all rejected. Sorry
Overall, it was a cool mod, I could see where you were coming from. Do note that modding is not like mapping though; for mapping, you just need to find justifiable reasons for everything you do, but for modding you need to put yourself INTO the mapper's shoes and try to feel their style. Don't force yourself into other people's creations; "overmodding" is a thing, and I'd rather people undermod than overmod to be honest.
Unless the map's CLEARLY objectively broken or inconsistent or just messy in general, regard every point you have as subjective opinion, not objective fact. In fact, if you find something that you disagree with in the map, try to actively justify it, think of why the mapper made it that way. I think you're still inexperienced with the many different styles and ways to map, and so if you do that it'll be a learning experience as well.
If I came across as a bit, idk, angry, I'm sorry Just wanted to help a fellow hk person to improve in mapping/modding stuff. Good luck with everything! DSE too
Edit: I'll just put the map here
SV: ppy plsSkylish wrote:
[General]
>SV should be 1.4, not 1.96, I believe that you had used AImod before you submitted your beatmap. 我之前都有咁GE問題,硬係fix唔到,靠人手check map唔係有乜計?
>Turn off Widescreen Support.
>01:23:145 Add a spinner to 01:25:645
where the vocal stops. In this period, dimuluendo is needed. Change the timing pt in necessary.
Widescreen: it's already off for me, maybe luxo messed it up somehow
Spinner: no. Spinners are used as gap fillers for me, and I almost never put any at the end of the song, it's not osu!standard. The final D serves as a satisfying finisher and any note after that would waste that.
No change for any of these. It's a question of style; you seem to like pitch mapping, where the k and d's follow the rise and fall of vocal/melody pitch, but that's not necessarily a must. For me, I like to follow a definite structure of onbeat d offbeat k or match the intensity of things, rather than sacrifice everything for pitch.Skylish wrote:
[Oni]
> 00:05:645 (17) - add 'd', due to the BG drum. ( In case you want to maintain the consistency of using vocal, then leave it alone.)
>00:18:562 (53,54,55,56,57) - change into 'kdd dk'. Match with the intervals of the notes.
> 00:26:062 (78) - 00:27:312 (82) - 00:29:812 (89) - 00:34:395 (106) - 00:37:312 (121) - 00:40:229 (130) - there are extremely clear breathing sound from the vocal. In terms of musical sense, these places are rest and should be better organized.
> 00:26:479 / 00:28:979 / 00:31:479 vocals should not be missed.
00:05:645 - yup, vocals only please
00:18:562 - so from 00:05:229 onwards up to 00:20:229 you can see that I alternate d and k for the first beat of every measure. So 00:18:979 (54) must be k. 00:18:145 (51,52) and 00:18:979 (54,55) both as k --> d would then match pitch.
00:25:229 to 00:40:229 - here, I do not intend to match the vocals at all. This is an example of a place where both vocals and drums are diverse enough to allow mapping to either channel, and not necessarily both. So, for Muzu I mapped to vocals since it's simpler, and for Oni I mapped to drums because it's more complex. All of your suggestions would make sense if I mapped to both vocals and drums, but since I'm not, they're all rejected. Sorry
This I did change, not because of pitch or consistency across difficulties, but because 00:32:729 is an onbeat and in this section I've used d for every onbeat, so this as k stood out.Skylish wrote:
>00:32:729 (102) - change from 'k' to 'd'. 00:32:729 (102,103) are in same pitch, and also follow the consistency of Muzu.
Skylish wrote:
[Muzu]
>00:17:312 (33,34,35,36,37,38) - change into 'k d k k d d' It can follow the consistency of Oni and match with the intervals between notes.
Nah I'd like to be consistent with 00:13:145 (25,26,27)
>00:34:187 (76) - change from 'd' to 'k', following the consistency of Oni.
That's a nice catch! Although I don't really care about cross difficulty consistency. But it plays better. Done.
>00:39:812 (92,93,94,95,96,97,98) - change to the pattern below:
Did not remove the note since that rhythm's with that gap there's a bit awkward. Did not change 98 to d, since I'd like to have k D at the end there. Otherwise done.
>The Kiai is good to go!
Overall, it was a cool mod, I could see where you were coming from. Do note that modding is not like mapping though; for mapping, you just need to find justifiable reasons for everything you do, but for modding you need to put yourself INTO the mapper's shoes and try to feel their style. Don't force yourself into other people's creations; "overmodding" is a thing, and I'd rather people undermod than overmod to be honest.
Unless the map's CLEARLY objectively broken or inconsistent or just messy in general, regard every point you have as subjective opinion, not objective fact. In fact, if you find something that you disagree with in the map, try to actively justify it, think of why the mapper made it that way. I think you're still inexperienced with the many different styles and ways to map, and so if you do that it'll be a learning experience as well.
If I came across as a bit, idk, angry, I'm sorry Just wanted to help a fellow hk person to improve in mapping/modding stuff. Good luck with everything! DSE too
Edit: I'll just put the map here
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Source:僕だけがいない街
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