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Hana - Gekka Jasmine (2014ver.)

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pishifat
osu! Paragon
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00:37:105 (1) - 00:48:399 (1) - 00:58:635 (1) - include finishes like 01:47:694 - this section does
02:42:929 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - 03:16:811 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - kind of confused by how you're emphasizing sounds. these groupings prioritize red ticks, while 01:32:517 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - prioritizes white ticks, which is weird when music is the same. rearranging some jumps/comboing to favor white ticks as the song supports might be the best choice here
02:09:047 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - vs 00:58:635 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - same concern aaa

gyro
01:01:811 (3) - seems like a hitsounding mistake
01:20:517 (9) - should use higher volume for the tail. can reduce for the spinner though. 02:31:105 (8) - does it right
02:42:399 (5,1) - 03:04:987 (5) - either use rhythm that emphasizes that red tick, or hitsound to make the white tick important. song has cymbal on whtie tick anyway
03:18:047 (1) - finsihhhhhh

frost
very inconsistent with finish usage in 00:11:694 - this section. should add finishes on: 00:15:752 (4) - 00:18:223 (3) - (head and tail here) 00:20:164 (1) -
00:32:694 (4,5) - these two should swap finishes
00:20:694 (2,3) - should use bigger spacing so as to not confuse this with 1/1. easily misinterpretable after a 1/2 jump
01:09:752 (4,5,6,7,1) - 02:20:341 (4,5,6,7) - similar. can move 5 to the right so 1/1 is clearly bigger than 1/2. some previous mod already said it and i agree with them
01:19:105 (8) - choose a proper rhythm like before the second kiai 02:29:694 (8,1) - . slidertail emphasis thing only really works when there's 1/1 or larger gap afterwards
01:22:635 (1,2,3,4,5) - uhhhh kinda going overboard with spacing on 3,4,5 lol. should use some pattern that doesnt go more than double average distance snap
03:14:870 (6) - either downbeat should be clickable, or there should be a 1/1 gap after the tail. as said earlier, continuous 1/2 rhythm makes slidertail emphasis suck

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Gyro Zeppeli
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AudioFilename: Shimo jasumin (2014ver.).mp3
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Title:Shimo jasumin (2014ver.)
TitleUnicode:下ジャスミン (2014ver.)
Artist:Hana
ArtistUnicode:はな
Creator:PinkHeart
Version:Gyro's Light Insane
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Tags:松本文紀 FrostxE Gyro Zeppeli LunaSaika imoutosan Alice
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pishifat wrote:

gyro
01:01:811 (3) - seems like a hitsounding mistake fix
01:20:517 (9) - should use higher volume for the tail. can reduce for the spinner though. 02:31:105 (8) - does it right ok, i fix that
02:42:399 (5,1) - 03:04:987 (5) - either use rhythm that emphasizes that red tick, or hitsound to make the white tick important. song has cymbal on whtie tick anyway ok, i change the slider
03:18:047 (1) - finsihhhhhh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
Fia
Topic Starter
Fia

Mir wrote:

return m4m
[General]
- Are these used?
  1. drum-sliderslide24.wav removed
  2. normal-hitfinish24.wav added some to saika's diff
[Normal]
- 00:12:929 - So this starts off being unclickable which it really could be clickable with two circles. But then comes an inconsistency with 00:22:988 (1,2,3) - which is these same rhythm in the song but the finish ends up clickable? Maybe consider making the first rhythm two circles so it's all clickable throughout the intro. I spoke a bit with UC and he suggested that the 3/2 rhythm gap is also a form of emphasis, but that gap is closed for the latter part of the intro as well so it again looks inconsistent since the song hasn't changed very much but the rhythm structure and emphasis usage changed completely.

Another way you can make this inconsistency look less like an inconsistency and more like a variation is alternating the rhythm every so often so it's not two distinct sections with two different rhythms but rather one section with some variations.

Yeah the rhythm is a variation. More of it I'd like to produce 2 paragraphs here in order to reduce the boredom because of repetition, which is from the song itself. I think it makes more sense than simply following these repeating rhythms.

- 02:10:282 (1,2,1,2) - Double reverses are not exactly recommended for a Normal difficulty since players may not be able to react to them fast enough. Reverse + circle here would fit fine imo just to avoid potential misreads. It's even more strange you decided to opt for double repeats here when 02:15:929 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - doesn't use any but has very similar rhythm. It's quite difference for not such a big change in the song imo. To make it more readable you could just not map the red tick before it so the repeat arrow isn't so obscure.

sure.

- 02:06:576 (3) - Would suggest ending this on the red slider since I assume you're trying to follow vocals? Referencing 02:03:047 (2,3) -

agree.

The rest seems fine I'm just kinda on the fence about the intro rhythm.

[Saika's Insane]
- 01:02:517 (1) - Maybe could use more emphasis? Slight spacing? A jump begin from this note could emphasize it too imo.
- 01:40:988 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I feel like there's a lot of circles here where sliders could be used for vocals that are held on 01:40:988 (2,4,6) - or so. // 03:02:870 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same thing here kinda. Circles are used in order to accompany with Normal-sample hitsounds here. Sliders gives a kind of continuous feeling which won't really match its hitsounds.
- 02:30:576 (1,2,3,4,5) - This may be too much of a difficulty spike, especially considering the first pre-kiai only had 01:19:458 (1,2,3,4) - so it's kinda unexpected to suddenly throw such a high spacing stream in. Considering the low cs setting, short spaced streams may not produce too much difficulty.
- 02:49:458 (5) - Seems like two circles could fit here.

[Jasmine]
- 00:10:105 (1,2) - Repeat on two is fairly hidden, but I don't know how I'd go about fixing it. Same to me... Flow is more important imo so I'd like to keep it now.
- 01:24:576 (4) - Mmm not a fan of how the tail is significantly stronger than the head. I feel like two circles might work here but I'd rather hear your reasoning for this. I just didn't feel it matters at that time... Changed for more elaborate mapping.

I mean the rest looks okay, I really like this diff. The rest of the set though... umm

~

Kencho wrote:

hi
主難度次難度都不錯，但是Hard不行，Light Insane還能接，歌不錯給個星，然後我鴿了
主次难度都改了

pishifat wrote:

top
00:37:105 (1) - 00:48:399 (1) - 00:58:635 (1) - include finishes like 01:47:694 - this section does ok
02:42:929 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - 03:16:811 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - kind of confused by how you're emphasizing sounds. these groupings prioritize red ticks, while 01:32:517 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - prioritizes white ticks, which is weird when music is the same. rearranging some jumps/comboing to favor white ticks as the song supports might be the best choice here Actually I just wanted to make these two part simplified to match (or emphasize) those stop-and-go patterns in kiais by using constant 1/2 jumps. Rearranged some ncs and jumps to avoid unnecessary misunderstanding.
02:09:047 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - vs 00:58:635 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - same concern aaa rearranged these parts

frost
very inconsistent with finish usage in 00:11:694 - this section. should add finishes on: 00:15:752 (4) - 00:18:223 (3) - (head and tail here) 00:20:164 (1) - checked his finish usage, I guess he considered 00:15:752 - as different sound from 00:12:576 - . made some consistent arrange based on that.
00:32:694 (4,5) - these two should swap finishes tried swap and found current finish sounds better
00:20:694 (2,3) - should use bigger spacing so as to not confuse this with 1/1. easily misinterpretable after a 1/2 jump fixed
01:09:752 (4,5,6,7,1) - 02:20:341 (4,5,6,7) - similar. can move 5 to the right so 1/1 is clearly bigger than 1/2. some previous mod already said it and i agree with them sure
01:19:105 (8) - choose a proper rhythm like before the second kiai 02:29:694 (8,1) - . slidertail emphasis thing only really works when there's 1/1 or larger gap afterwards fixed
01:22:635 (1,2,3,4,5) - uhhhh kinda going overboard with spacing on 3,4,5 lol. should use some pattern that doesnt go more than double average distance snap changed 4's direction
03:14:870 (6) - either downbeat should be clickable, or there should be a 1/1 gap after the tail. as said earlier, continuous 1/2 rhythm makes slidertail emphasis suck ok, used 1/2 sliders

call me back!!!
Thanks for modding!!!

楼上我球球你你怎么又把一堆unsnapped滑条改回去了 我给你修了
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Nozhomi
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I like this bg tbh
Fia
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Thanks pishfat!
I like it too. One of p19's awesome early works.
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PinkHeart wrote:

楼上我球球你你怎么又把一堆unsnapped滑条改回去了 我给你修了
有吗？？？？
Narcissu
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你拿我老婆當背景之前問過我老婆同意了嗎

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這是老娘親手揉大的歐派。我的意思是rule 改了你可以用規格稍微大一點的……我裁了個大白腿多一點的你看看要不要用 :roll:

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你可醒醒吧 胸那么大怎么可能是你老婆
Lasse
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add frostmourne to tags and fix description

found this for metadata http://metrowing.main.jp/alice/
but shouldn't "jasumin" be capitalized?
or even changed to "Jasmine" because of
Loan words should be expressed using romanisation from the original language.
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#metadata

jasmine
00:35:605 (2,1) - not really sure what to think about this actually lol. I mean it still plays "alright" due to sliderhead timing window, but it seems a bit out of place to just have this really spaced active 1/4 gap there
I mean 01:46:194 (3,1) - uses a similar concept, but with much lower spacing

saika
00:00:400 - red line should be 50%volume here, like green
02:30:576 (1,2,3,4,5) - might be nice to tone this down a bit? it's the hardest 5note stream spacing wise since all other streams in the map overlap, even the ones at the peaks of intense chorus parts
02:44:694 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this looks pretty out of place with all the other much more organized looking stream shapes, maybe something like https://i.imgur.com/huQVa7o.jpg could work?

gyro
01:47:694 (1) - 01:47:694 (1) -00:48:399 (1) - 01:58:988 (1) - shouldn't these have finish?

frost
00:20:164 (1,2) - stack is really noticeably broken here

normal
02:54:752 (5) - don't think this needs to be a short repeat since it looks like you never really used them before, so suddenly after 3 minutes will probably tilt new players, could just be a 1/2 slider

should be all
Gyro Zeppeli
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Lasse wrote:

gyro
01:47:694 (1) - 01:47:694 (1) -00:48:399 (1) - 01:58:988 (1) - shouldn't these have finish? only Whistle is ok, if have finish it is not good for listen
Fia
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Lasse wrote:

saika
02:30:576 (1,2,3,4,5) - might be nice to tone this down a bit? it's the hardest 5note stream spacing wise since all other streams in the map overlap, even the ones at the peaks of intense chorus parts I feel it's fine since it's cs3.5 here. Increased former triples' spacing to give an intro for it.
02:44:694 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this looks pretty out of place with all the other much more organized looking stream shapes, maybe something like https://i.imgur.com/huQVa7o.jpg could work? Referring to his reply to other mods I think he intended to make this kind of hard shapes. Personally I think it's acceptable.
Others were fixed (And changed bg to higher resolution). Thanks for modding!
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saika's diff was using silenced sliderslide+tick samples in the intro which have been replaced with 10% green lines now

was going to rebubble anyways since metadata was changed
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02:44:738 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Um
Delis
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Delis
as long as the link lasse had is correct the title is stil missing smh? 月 must be added to the title in the first place and Gekka Jasmine is how you romanize it :)
Fia
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Delis wrote:

as long as the link lasse had is correct the title is stil missing smh? 月 must be added to the title in the first place and Gekka Jasmine is how you romanize it :)
Idk why the link is blocked here hmmm... Anyway fixed it now. Correct title looks really better, thanks for informing!
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qualified
Fushimi Rio
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yeah
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Thank you pishifat and Lasse!
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wow
Yohanes
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This being qualified totally slipped out form my attention O_o
Grats!
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I used Hidden
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