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Dzeko & Torres - 2015 in 10 minutes

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Aleks719

Zhuriel wrote:

hi there, from my queue. you were request #18 with a priority of 24, this is mod #7.

i assume this is some sort of "best of 2015" mix by the title but i've never heard any of these songs, probably because i'm not into this kind of music in general. makes a pretty fun map though

  1. 00:12:866 (4) - how about splitting these into 2 circles and a repeat slider, both for emphasis on the downbeat and to make the repeat slider the same length as 00:11:225 (1) - it doesn't work well with circles, and plays strange for me
  2. 00:22:592 (9) - related, make this start on the downbeat for consistency and to make the downbeat clickable mentioned before, i'm not agree here, end of slider add unpleasant sound.
  3. 00:59:858 (8,1) - this stream jump seems a bit excessive, it's the same spacing as the sliders after but slider spacing works a lot differently it's okay, tested with different players
  4. 01:18:725 - i'd make this clickable, feels too weak as a slider end since it's the downbeat on the last note of the section so really important in this case i need to change slider into something (nope) or cut it to the half and it makes slider sound awful. Can't accept this recommendation
  5. 03:59:037 (8) - this slider goes off the playfield it's not, check careful, not in editor.
  6. 04:47:787 (3,4) - this looks inconsistent with the rest of the section, on other such patterns you place objects in a straight line continuing the slider changes in music, changes in patterns
  7. 05:29:037 (2) - this is a triplet (2/3 snap) rhythm, similar at 05:36:537 (2,3) - 05:44:037 (2,3) - ahem, if you follow vocals then yes, but i don't follow it here
  8. 05:30:912 (3,4) - i found these a bit annoying to read as some of them the slider almost completely covers the circle. maybe try spacing them a bit? tried, looks ugly
  9. 06:47:787 (10) - sliderend off the playfield same as before
  10. 07:07:944 (2) - 07:09:819 (2) - 07:11:694 (2) - not a big fan of these sliders where the return arrow points in a weird direction because of the tiny twist just before. if you used them consistently i wouldn't mind as much but it's just a few of them showing up in one part which makes it seem out of place did you mod without sound? it follows music
  11. 08:50:600 (1,2,3,4) - these come a bit out of nowhere, based on the rest of the map (stuff like 08:10:756 (3,4) - for example) it looks like a much slower rhythm and it's the only rhythm of it's kind. try to find a way to make this easier to read same, listen to the music carefully
Sorry, I've not accepted none of your suggestions. Thanks for your time anyway.
Sieg
actually I don't have any complains knowing your style, poke me when you'll decide that you want to push this
mancuso_JM_

Sieg wrote:

actually I don't have any complains knowing your style, poke me when you'll decide that you want to push this
Let me check that before something happens! Hi Owleks c:

[Marathon]

New Combos
I decided to put this category here because some combos were too much inconsistent for my eyes hehe.

  1. 00:29:740 (8,1) - I think the music change in (8), so I'd swap the combos here.
  2. 01:04:662 (5,6,7,8,9) - 01:08:412 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - 01:12:162 (5,6,1,2,3) - 01:15:912 (3,1,2,3) - Wow.. We have similar parts in the song here but they were combo'ing completely different :/. Would be great if you keep the consistency here, any choose will be correct but try to use the same in all points xD.
  3. 03:29:037 (9) - Add a New combo here for consistency with the first long stream in 00:58:100 - (?)
  4. 04:26:225 (8,1) - The music change appear here, but you decided to add a new combo here. I'd swap this combos, and I'd add whistles in the slider because it sounds really good imo.
  5. 06:15:678 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I wouldn't spam a lot new combos here, I'd do something different if I were you. Try removing the New Combo in 06:15:678 (1) - and then add one in 06:15:912 (2). After that follow the list because the idea is basically the same:
    • 06:17:084 (1) - Remove New Combo
    • 06:17:318 (2) - Add a New Combo
    • 06:19:662 (4) - If you want, you can add a New Combo here for consistency.
  6. 06:55:756 (1,2) - If I follow your logic in patterns like 07:02:787 (5,6) where you have anti-jumps and the music is similar with this, you should remove the new combo in (1) and add it in (2) for consistency (or vice versa)
  7. 07:31:850 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - For consistency with the whole map, and especially with the pattern in 07:24:350 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - you should remove all new combos in this pattern.

  1. 00:51:537 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try increasing a bit the spacing in this pattern for consistency with the previous pattern in 00:49:662 - because the music is in a similar pitch and it plays weird having different spacing imo.
  2. 01:02:201 (x) - A note is really necessary here to cover the vocals properly. It feels empty without it.
  3. 01:05:951 (1,2,3,1) - This 1/4 compressed plays weird because is inconsistent with the other patterns in the kiai and it doesn't make much sense. I recommend you to make this consistent, using a pattern like this one
  4. 01:15:209 (1) - It feels empty if you don't cover the instrumental properly (that appears in 1/8). So, I recommend you to reduce this slider length by 1/8 and add 2 repetitions in the slider. You used a similar pattern in 01:07:709 (2) - and it sounds much better.
  5. 01:33:256 (3) - Hmm.. If I follow your logic, this slider should end in 01:33:490 - because you're following vocals in this section.
  6. 01:42:748 (5) - Can I suggest you to remove this note here? Basically because the stop in vocals is really notable and this note is not representing that.
  7. 01:46:381 (1) - Extend this slider till 01:46:732 - (?). It'll follow vocals properly if you ask me.
  8. 01:47:084 (1) - 01:50:834 (1) - 01:54:584 (1) - 01:58:334 (1) - Would be better if you follow vocals closely. You have different ways to follow that properly, I'll leave some examples and you could follow whatever you want, but would be better if you fix that.
    Well, and similar rhythms are acceptable here too.
  9. 02:35:951 (x) - I think a note works fine here, it feels so empty without anything even if you're focusing only in vocals in this section. Give it a try.
  10. 03:14:975 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think a little jumpy pattern can be a good idea here due to emphasize some phrases in vocals. My idea is this but you should do some changes avoiding overlaps. If you think you have to make a lot of changes and it is not really necessary feel free to reject that, but I liked how it plays.
  11. 03:40:639 (x) - I would add something here c:. Maybe ctrl+G in 03:40:287 (5) and add an additional repetition.
  12. 04:23:295 (2,3) - Would be better if you keep the consistency in this pattern. I would increase a bit the spacing between these objects for consistecy with 04:15:795 (2,3).
  13. 05:57:865 (1,2) - Due to the sound of the music, I think a kick slider fits better than 2 notes. Meh.. I don't know how to explain it properly, just check it out by yourself and I think you'll understand my point hehe.
  14. 06:07:592 - 06:08:529 - 06:09:467 - If I were you I'd add notes in all these points. They'll follow the instrumental perfectly, in addition of that it gives a good effect when you start the new pattern in 06:11:225 -.
  15. 06:15:678 (1,2) - This stack flows bad, I can understand the rest in the mapbut not this one because it's not following the music at all, so I highly recommend you to remove this stack.
  16. 07:11:693 (2) - *nazi time* This slider is a bit different comparing with the others, it doesn't give the proper effect like the others give. Yeah.. you just need to curve a bit more the slider end xD like this image.
  17. 07:26:225 (3) - I don't want to be extremely nazi with you, but come on Aleks, you can make this slider much nicer c: *runs*
  18. 09:31:615 (3,4,5) - Increase the spacing between (3,4), it'll follow the music in a good way. I think would be good if you stack (4,5) too.
  19. 10:14:289 (4) - This 3/4 sounds bad :/. I think the best option here is making that in 1/2 and reducing the volume at the slider end.
That's all.. I didn't want to be really nitpicky with you because the map in general is nice c:
Glad to see you again mapping for this "project".
I hope this can help you and see you around man!
Best of luck! *Shooting Stars*
Topic Starter
Aleks719

mancuso_JM_ wrote:

Sieg wrote:

actually I don't have any complains knowing your style, poke me when you'll decide that you want to push this
Let me check that before something happens! Hi Owleks c: Hi mancus /o/

[Marathon]

New Combos
applied all expect last line, added nc instead of removing :P



  • Unreplied = fixed
  1. 01:33:256 (3) - Hmm.. If I follow your logic, this slider should end in 01:33:490 - because you're following vocals in this section. sounds too empty if i make it shorter
  2. 02:35:951 (x) - I think a note works fine here, it feels so empty without anything even if you're focusing only in vocals in this section. Give it a try. used slider here
  3. 03:14:975 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think a little jumpy pattern can be a good idea here due to emphasize some phrases in vocals. My idea is this but you should do some changes avoiding overlaps. If you think you have to make a lot of changes and it is not really necessary feel free to reject that, but I liked how it plays. then i reject, cuz want to save it as is
  4. 03:40:639 (x) - I would add something here c:. Maybe ctrl+G in 03:40:287 (5) and add an additional repetition. looks good, hope i will not get so much have for 2 repetitions :S
  5. 06:07:592 - 06:08:529 - 06:09:467 - If I were you I'd add notes in all these points. They'll follow the instrumental perfectly, in addition of that it gives a good effect when you start the new pattern in 06:11:225 -. added, but not sure, sounds 50/50 for me
  6. 07:11:693 (2) - *nazi time* This slider is a bit different comparing with the others, it doesn't give the proper effect like the others give. Yeah.. you just need to curve a bit more the slider end xD like this image. never liked it, fixed in another way~
That's all.. I didn't want to be really nitpicky with you because the map in general is nice c:
Glad to see you again mapping for this "project".
I hope this can help you and see you around man!
Best of luck! *Shooting Stars*
woah, that was helpful man, i'd like to see your mod in my every map o/
thank you!
Sonnyc
awesome map.
Gordon123
привет!
[Marathon]

  • тебе точно надо widescreen support?
    00:59:154 - меня беспокоит вот это место! я как бы не могу понять : почему там пусто и никак не могу определиться ,вроде там есть ритм для того что бы поставить круг ,да и переход от 00:58:920 (8,1) - одного стрима к 00:59:272 (2,3) - другому не очень комфортно для игроком,так что предлагаю ноту поставить! если нет лол о.о то хотя бы 00:59:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - отодвинь так этот стрим что бы не сливался с первым!
    01:05:014 (6) - предлагаю сдвинуть более ближе к 01:04:662 (5) - этому слайдеру,так как переход довольно резок! x:292 y:108
    01:07:709 (1) - ctrl-g может быть,что бы сразу к слайдеру был повёрнут!
    02:20:951 (9,1) - выдвинь их немного в перёд! > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6300281
    07:48:256 (7) - предлагаю убрать один реверс и 07:48:725 (1) - увеличить немного слайдер > http://puu.sh/rFr8r/de47fc4e83.png звучит немного лучше
    07:50:131 (5,1) - ^ 07:52:006 (5,1) - 07:53:880 (5,1) - 07:55:755 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - не знаю,но там никак не ложится этот удар!
    10:17:085 (5) - мб в место обычного драмфиниша попробуешь вот этот - finish ?
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Good Luck
Topic Starter
Aleks719

Gordon123 wrote:

привет!
[Marathon]

  • тебе точно надо widescreen support? не влияет
    00:59:154 - меня беспокоит вот это место! я как бы не могу понять : почему там пусто и никак не могу определиться ,вроде там есть ритм для того что бы поставить круг ,да и переход от 00:58:920 (8,1) - одного стрима к 00:59:272 (2,3) - другому не очень комфортно для игроком,так что предлагаю ноту поставить! если нет лол о.о то хотя бы 00:59:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - отодвинь так этот стрим что бы не сливался с первым! ничего не понял, там 1/4 стрим идёт
    01:05:014 (6) - предлагаю сдвинуть более ближе к 01:04:662 (5) - этому слайдеру,так как переход довольно резок! x:292 y:108 не, не надо, так нормально
    01:07:709 (1) - ctrl-g может быть,что бы сразу к слайдеру был повёрнут! будет повернут к следующему, но неудобно расположен по отношению к предыдущему, надо будет перепрыгивать реверс
    02:20:951 (9,1) - выдвинь их немного в перёд! > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6300281 не знаю зачем
    07:48:256 (7) - предлагаю убрать один реверс и 07:48:725 (1) - увеличить немного слайдер > http://puu.sh/rFr8r/de47fc4e83.png звучит немного лучше но на синем тике есть звук, который я тогда упущу
    07:50:131 (5,1) - ^ 07:52:006 (5,1) - 07:53:880 (5,1) - 07:55:755 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - не знаю,но там никак не ложится этот удар! не согласен
    10:17:085 (5) - мб в место обычного драмфиниша попробуешь вот этот - finish? ну не знаю, что-то глуховато, да и ради одного места всё равно
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Good Luck
Спасибо за потраченное время и мод!
Gordon123

Aleks719 wrote:

Gordon123 wrote:

привет!
[Marathon]
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тебе точно надо widescreen support? не влияет
00:59:154 - меня беспокоит вот это место! я как бы не могу понять : почему там пусто и никак не могу определиться ,вроде там есть ритм для того что бы поставить круг ,да и переход от 00:58:920 (8,1) - одного стрима к 00:59:272 (2,3) - другому не очень комфортно для игроком,так что предлагаю ноту поставить! если нет лол о.о то хотя бы 00:59:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - отодвинь так этот стрим что бы не сливался с первым! ничего не понял, там 1/4 стрим идёт
00:59:154 (2) - я говорил про то что надо добавить круг,так как там его не было! а сейчас он есть ._. (совпадение?не думаю! :roll: )
Topic Starter
Aleks719
00:59:154 (2) - я говорил про то что надо добавить круг,так как там его не было! а сейчас он есть ._. (совпадение?не думаю! :roll: )
по истории можно увидеть, что мапу я не обновлял совпадение?не думаю!
Kyubey
SPOILER
<Kyubey> а чего од не семёрочка? жалеешь ты игроков
<Kyubey> 00:59:858 (8,1) - выглядит, как довольно здоровый и слишком внезапный прыжок для мапы с такой общей сложностью, я думаю, можно и уменьшить
<Kyubey> 01:18:491 (1) - как насчёт заменить на 1/4 слайдер с заглушённым хвостом и нотой на белом тике? она мощнее бы подошла под этот бит
<Kyubey> 02:14:741 (5,1) - может, тут чутка увеличить спейсинг, под новый-то кусок в треке?
<Kyubey> 02:45:912 (3) - репит странно звучит, кажется что здесь слайдер только под вокал хочет идти, и поэтому красный тик вызывает недоумение
<Kyubey> 02:52:123 (4,5,1) - может, анстакнуть, чтобы шло вместе с 02:53:998 (4,5,1) - одинаково?
<Kyubey> 06:14:506 (2) - классный хитсаунд
<Kyubey> 08:02:670 (3,1) - вот тут тоже штука довольно путающая, сверху вообще сложно будет заметить, ибо аппроачи краем экрана обрублены
<Kyubey> лучше бы анстакнуть, а то подстава такая спустя восемь минут мапы
<Kyubey> 08:42:631 (7) - ожидал здесь тоже репит, после 08:38:881 (4) -
<Kyubey> 08:53:412 (5,6,7) - раздвинь треугольник, а то из-за автостака тут нота со стаком оверлапает, https://qb.s-ul.eu/4ejYlra4.png
<Kyubey> 09:00:444 (1,2,3,5) - и тут
<Kyubey> и на этом всё
Kyubey
Пузырь #1.
Topic Starter
Aleks719
Thank you, Kuybey!
свет, тепло и воду в твой дом стабильно всю зиму
Sieg
#2
задержался
Topic Starter
Aleks719

Sieg wrote:

#2
задержался
Йей, спасибо!
Irreversible
#approved

sorry can't speak russian!
Kyubey
I thought you can say "Привет".
Topic Starter
Aleks719
Thank you, Irre!

*tears of happiness*
Irreversible
npnbet!
mancuso_JM_
Congratulations! :D

At least I could mod this version! hehe
ReFaller
Congrats, I very enjoyed to Carly Rae Japsen Ellie Goulding's part.
Vass_Bass
oooow gratzy!
Shiranai
Congrats, this year is a nice one :)
Chalwa
Wow, I really like this map :D. Congratz :)
Mekki
It is nice to see the old mappers back :D
IamKwaN
Why 2015 In 10 Minutes instead of 2015 in 10 Minutes? Source please.
Topic Starter
Aleks719

IamKwaN wrote:

Why 2015 In 10 Minutes instead of 2015 in 10 Minutes? Source please.
2015 was not realised oficially by D&T on soundcloud, i used the most viewed page.

https://soundcloud.com/nathanmennen/dze ... 10-minutes
IamKwaN
Probably we should disqualify your map because what you are using is not official.

According to this and this, title should be 2015 in 10 Minutes.
Topic Starter
Aleks719

IamKwaN wrote:

Probably we should disqualify your map because what you are using is not official.

According to this and this, title should be 2015 in 10 Minutes.
Wrong. you actually give a sourse with "2015 in 10 minutes"


even you with special searches give 2 different names.

Looking in the past, Leader was wrong with uploaded name:
https://soundcloud.com/nickraymondg/dze ... 10-minutes

last 3 releases (2012-2015) were with capitalized letter, letter should be capitalized here too.
IamKwaN
According to the facebook link, "2015 in 10 Minutes is FINALLY here!!"

I just want to make sure yours is not correct. No matter which one you choose (2015 in 10 Minutes or 2015 in 10 minutes), they are acceptable, but not the one you are having now.

And please do not justify with ranked mapset, most of the time it doesn't work. Refutation using different song is also a no.

If you do not have something to add, I will just disqualify it and requalify directly after the fix.
Topic Starter
Aleks719

IamKwaN wrote:

According to the facebook link, "2015 in 10 Minutes is FINALLY here!!"
as you posted "2015 in 10 Minutes is FINALLY here!!". "2015 in 10 Minutes" is not quoted.
It means it doesn't say the name of the track is "2015 in 10 Minutes", it's a speech, where author said "2015 year [compressed in] 10 Minutes was finally here".
You haven't proved you are right for now. Continue, since you have to prove it for disqualification. Don't even try to appeal to the name of uploaded file, it means nothing, you know it.
IamKwaN
What do you mean by uploaded file?

EDIT: If you mean this, then why isn't it official? It is the only source linked by them. Even though they differ a little bit, they are both acceptable as I said.

If you ever find a valid official reference stating 2015 In 10 Minutes, I will let your map go.

EDIT2: Yes, I admit the whole thing is minor, but capitalization is one thing we do not have any exemption, unlike spaces and half/full-length symbols. And no, it is not tough to be requalified. Just fix it, and I will put it back to the qualified stage.

I do not want to sound like I am forcing people to change what they do not want to, instead, I try to convince people to have correct metadata. That's why I don't disqualify it directly.
Starrodkirby86
I really feel like this whole thing is incredibly minor, and it's really tough to go through the whole reapproval process again...

So Aleks is saying that since that post is a just an announcement and not an official song title there, it can't be used to irrefutably prove that the proper capitalization is "2015 in 10 Minutes". They can just type whatever they want at that point.

Though in that same post, Dzeko and Torres provide a download link to their song. You need OAuth with Facebook to access it, but the file basically is like this:


There's no tags, nor it's not on their official Soundcloud or anything, so I don't know how serious they are with the capitalization of it, but the name does seem like it's "2015 in 10 Minutes". You can check out their download link here.

Sorry if this brings any trouble, but at the least it's awesome to see you around again. You're such a great mapper.
Sieg
tbh, I also came with that sc source, but w\e it wont take much time to lowercase, hope you guys can make some kind of agreement :3
Mekki
Does that even matter? I mean, it is just a capitalization question, no one sees/care about that and also doesn't change nothing while searching the map. Honestly, this one being right/wrong I don't see a reason to disqualify just because of that. The important things about the title is there, this is what should matter.
Topic Starter
Aleks719
i've send a tweet to them, let's see what they reply.
IamKwaN

MkGuh wrote:

Does that even matter? I mean, it is just a capitalization question, no one sees/care about that and also doesn't change nothing while searching the map. Honestly, this one being right/wrong I don't see a reason to disqualify just because of that. The important things about the title is there, this is what should matter.
Frankly speaking, it does matter. If we let this slip through, I really do not know what people start to put in their title and artist from now on and from the viewpoint of the QAT, how to judge what is minor and what is not, leading the limit being pushed far and even further away. Eventually, everything returns to the metadata standard several years ago.

Aleks719 wrote:

i've send a tweet to them, let's see what they reply.
If you mean the artist, sure. There are still 4-5 days the map being ranked.
IamKwaN
Sorry for double post, any reply from the artist?
IamKwaN
Sorry, I guess I have to disqualify this until a response from the mapper or confirmation from the artist is heard.

Please let me know if you want to change the title or wait for artist's confirmation, sorry for any convenience.
Topic Starter
Aleks719

IamKwaN wrote:

Sorry, I guess I have to disqualify this until a response from the mapper or confirmation from the artist is heard.

Please let me know if you want to change the title or wait for artist's confirmation, sorry for any convenience.

I do not take your apologizes.
You had no right to do this, since you haven't proved i'm wrong.
All you have are guesses without any real source.

You put your opinion higher than opinion of mapper and 3 nominators without proof, i don't think your action is right.

p.s. unite your triplepost, it looks awful.
IamKwaN
Take a look at Starrokirby's screenshot, that is the proof. Download link sourced from the Artist is valid official reference. Unfortunately, metadata is a matter of facts instead of opinion, and triplepost is necessary for my question and icon post, because it construes a timeline.
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