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Soul Evans wrote:

Here i am with another mod that would be for zens diff~

Mod

  • 00:01:862 (1862|5,1862|5,1862|1) - Generally if you move these two to [2,6], both will give enough smoothness for the transactions of the roll located here 00:02:076 (2076|0,2183|1,2237|2) - so that it would be better when contradicting the transaction of that [1,2,3] there

    I'm not going for that much smoothness here, I'm trying to keep as much jacks as possible hence I opted to using a 35 there to break the continuous jacks as I think it's too difficult

    00:05:183 (5183|2) - This part is so uncomfortable to play i almost get 90% of the time me missing it because of the jack part before it maybe you can revere it with 00:05:076 (5076|0) - or change it so it won't be as uncomfortable

    Didn't go as the suggestion follows since the jacks there are placed for an intended transition back and fro 1/1 and 1/2 (where the jacks start), did something else i guess

    00:07:433 (7433|1) - I hear a somewhat vibrant sound there at the LN part, sine you went that far to add those crazy SVs you mightaswell add something that can counter that sound accordingly i don't know what that type of Sv is called but since that sound should describe what type of SV that you should do i'll assume you know what it is i'm talking about

    changed to another thing i guess?

    00:10:648 - I think adding two notes at this part would be fitting enough don't you think?

    Think that'd be awkward to play but it breaks technical consistency but i don't really care about consistency here so lol

    00:32:933 (32933|0,32933|6) - Just to give it some variety, move those two near [3,5] since it also has a somewhat different sound from the rest

    Wanted to keep everything the same because there are some chords here that are not readable at all (due to the SV) so i want the player to assume everything is a 1357 chord for this section, changing anything here will be confusing

    00:35:505 (35505|6) - Maybe move to 4?

    ^

    00:43:648 - This part with the SVs seems very strange and uncomfortable to play, maybe you can make this contradict the SVs accordingly by changing it because that's a little unfitting

    not really, i think it's ok

    01:01:005 (61005|4,61005|5,61005|6) - This sounds a little bit silly, but move that to [567] to balance that out to at least give balance

    tried that and I didn't feel like it gives the intended feeling of smashing the keyboard very violently with one hand on 1/1

    01:11:183 (71183|0) - Maybe move this to 1? i think this should work considering how unnatural it feels there for me playing it

    moved i guess

    01:33:362 - Maybe just maybe, slowjam time if you know what i'm talking about LOL

    it is 0.8 already

    01:36:148 - Add one LN and another here 01:36:469 - until here 01:36:790 -

    Kinda wanted to go with a staccato effect on the notes here to go with the SVs so I kept it as normal notes

    02:00:255 (120255|5,120362|5) - This is so awkward maybe moving it to the index finger would be better lol

    moved

    02:21:790 - I just think maybe if you slow this SV by just a little it can be more fiting for player to actually sense where he should release it, because up until now i looked at the editor i played the map numerous times, and i still can't figure out the right place to release this last note so maybe you can take that to consideration

    not really, there is a 2/1 tick in the music in which you can extrapolate to the last tick to know when to release

    One last note, i have a near FC (1x miss) on this map so i know what would feel right with these suggestions again your SVs rare unique and i don't want to change that because it's the main reason i play it and actually have fun with it so yeah!

DDMythicalB3ast wrote:

Zen's Insane Difficulty

00:16:219 (16219|3,16219|1,16219|5,16219|2,16540|1,16540|4,16540|5,16540|3,16862|1,16862|3,16862|2,16862|4,17183|3,17183|5,17183|2,17183|4) - I would consider expanding some notes out to the empty columns here.

Felt that the notes in the middle columns give more impact and it's easier to read and play so i opted with those columns only

02:00:148 (120148|6,120255|5,120362|5) - Jack here seems a bit unnecessary, Especially since the notes pitch changes.

not really, it's pitch relevant
http://puu.sh/qW3xv/0d379b1501.osu
Topic Starter
Jinjin

DDMythicalB3ast wrote:

This is kind of from the point of someone who's never modded before, and someone who can just about pass zens insane, So take everything here with a grain of salt :(
forgot to apply this rip

Note: Mania columns count from 1-7 to me, not 0-6, as the editor says
SPOILER
Easy Difficulty

00:29:076 (29076|4) - Change this to column 1? kept it pitch relevant with the previous note
00:32:933 (32933|4) - Move this to center note. okies
00:38:505 (38505|2) - Make this a hold until the next note? I don't think the music reflects this to be a long hold
01:53:076 (113076|2,113505|2,113933|4) - These notes onto column 2, 2,6 respectively. wanted the percussion to be in columns 3 and 5

SPOILER
Normal Difficulty

00:02:826 (2826|6) - Note here? Column 7. i think the jack is okay
00:13:005 (13005|0,14290|0) - Shift these notes right 1 column.
00:13:648 (13648|6) - And this one 1 column left. applied both
00:17:505 (17505|1) - Move this to column 1 ok
01:08:933 (68933|2) - This note plays alot better on centre key moved
01:09:683 (69683|4) - I would move this over to the 3 column to keep patterning consistant, However I can understand if you want to keep both of them on the same key because both notes are the same. yeah, wanted to keep them the same
01:51:148 (111148|3) - Note here? Centre Column I kinda prefer leaving these notes as jacks
01:54:576 (114576|3) - Note here? Centre Column same as above
01:57:362 (117362|0) - I would consider making this a hold all the way up to 02:01:648 (121648|5) - applied
02:13:648 (133648|5,134076|1) - I would consider making these hold notes until their next white tick want to keep everything as short note here
02:14:505 (134505|3) - Completely Changed the patterning here to something less comfortable (to fit the song) But to keep it scaling well (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5986702) kinda prefer my own patterns here, sorry :(
02:16:219 (136219|5) - New pattern cont. (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5986709) [pattern is normal after that]
thanks for the mod~
DeletedUser_259972
rank this already =3=
LastExceed

Holy shit. Just a little more and we might actually see the first 2 digits SR map ranked o.O

I gave this map a star. I don't even play 7k. but i like the song
Virtue-
When ranked =w=
Another Lie
just a minor suggestion
Zenx's Insane
00:03:683 - add SV around this part
no kudosu
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Another Lie wrote:

just a minor suggestion
Zenx's Insane
00:03:683 - add SV around this part
no kudosu
sounds gucci

sent update indirectly
Aras
How much PP will this map holds :dddddd
Another Lie
I'm back with another bunch of kudosu
I don't care when will be ranked, i love this song too much ★4
Eclipse-
add "rsi" to tags, otherwise it won't be ranked :^)
Amethyst507
Needs 2 bubs to summon the legendary ET Blocko from the ET Dimension of PP
Vygatron
same
JustinNF
Hardest chart ranked forever!!! (If ranked :3)
Cra Dow

JustinNF wrote:

Hardest chart ranked forever!!! (If ranked :3)
I think when this gets ranked osu mania community will enter the 8-10* tier ranked maps for 7k. Later on there will be people trying to rank even harder charts when most of top tier players start to dominate(99% fc and stuff ) at this difficulty... Well this is what have been happening over these years it will continue this way... we need more 5-8* maps to thou... Not all players care to play bms and o2jam to get to et tier. This kind of charts keep the community alive.
Cryophenix
Why is this graveyard ? Rank this
yetii
I can barely play 7k but rank it already :3
Cra Dow

Yetified wrote:

I can barely play 7k but rank it already :3
#Yetified2020overjoy***7player 8-)
LinkTaylord

Mrtheobandicoot wrote:

Why is this graveyard ? Rank this
Rank this pls
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Fresh Chicken wrote:

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Please save my children, they are soo fat by ranking this map they can work out so they do not get obesity.
Peeeeeeease! Save them :( >:( :? :(
Only this map can save them so please ;_:

ps: ET mod kudos for me :D
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The difficulty jump between Hard and Insane is pretty high but I'm gonna let it slide unless someone complains

What's your reasoning for 7.5 OD on Another and 8 OD on Alter Ego? That's pretty low compared to the difficulty and speed of the map, even by osu standards
I'm sorry if this was already discussed, I'm late to the party lol
Diffs
Easy
00:54:040 (54040|4,54040|2) - I think the chord would fit better at 00:54:040 -. Putting it on the first loud noise may be easier for beginners, AND it sounds more intuitive to my ears
01:10:540 (70540|4) - I think this note would be better at 01:10:219 -. The irregular rhythm you have currently isn't very explicit in the song
01:39:362 (99362|2) - I definitely think this note should be at 01:39:255 -. I know that second hit is the beginning of the measure, but I always hear the first hit as the downbeat ;n; (adjust LN length if applied)
02:03:362 - weird left bias http://puu.sh/v9li6.png (ok now i'm just being picky)
02:19:219 (139219|1) - I think it would be cool to move this to 02:19:433 - for the cymbal

I'm putting all my effort into this end of the spread because I know I'm not gonna be able to criticize Alter Ego ;-)

Normal
I think it would be a unique and intuitive choice to get rid of the chords at 00:11:076 - and 00:12:790 -! The doubles you have currently don't line up with any instrument in particular and only serve as superfluous structure. also a possibility on Hard
01:39:362 (99362|6) - same suggestion about the downbeat
01:42:683 (102683|2) - hey this is the same sound as the following two. i suggest moving it to the middle lane
from the beginning of the kiai to 02:19:433 - there's only one note in the middle lane! (02:11:076 - ) If you were going for a pseudo-6k section you should remove it, or maybe use it more consistently

Hard
00:32:558 - hmm... I don't know if these ~50 ms spaces are difficulty-appropriate... but i'm no authority on LN mapping and I assume you had testers l0l
00:38:826 - you should put a note here to make a nice little gallop (oh geez taiko terminology)
01:19:648 - to 01:28:862 - jinjin forgets what keymode he's mapping for 11 measures
jk lol lane distribution is overrated imo as long as it's symmetrical and consistent. dont change anything
02:14:505 - why a triple here but not later? same sound. makes sense to accent structurally but not intuitively i think

Insane
00:02:505 - agh the note distortion (Calm down niv... it was probably on Purpose...)
00:05:933 (5933|2,6040|4) - why not flip these and make the next part consistent? like i'm actually curious, since it looks like it was on purpose
00:09:362 (9362|4,9469|2) - same
00:10:540 (10540|4,10594|6,10648|3,10701|5) - must say the awkwardness of this one-handed pattern seems out of place in this diff. ;_; though i have to admit it looks nice
00:18:790 (18790|2,18844|0,18898|3,18951|1) - oof (well at least the difficulty is balanced between hands now l0l)
00:52:219 (52219|1,52273|3,52326|5) - this isn't a very good way to represent the bursty noise. I would recommend LNs... the rhythm sounds like it "bounces" right from 00:52:219 - to 00:52:433 -
00:52:969 (52969|2,53023|5,53076|0,53076|1) - although i like the pitch, it doesn't make sense to use a sharp alternating-hand pattern for such a light sound. Because of the speed of the song, the note's ambiguous placement, and the chaos of this section, players at this level are much more likely to approximate its timing and process it as a superfluous space filler rather than "feeling" the alternating rhythm. (Or am I just a noob?)
01:27:148 - ok the note distortion here is totally unnecessary
01:48:148 - hey cool idea, if you extend these LNs to 01:48:683 - then you'll further accentuate the sudden silence by having more releases at once. also that blank space in the left hand is just ugly rn
02:20:076 - same idea, if you turned these into LNs. downside: you wouldn't get the cool effect where it looks like it's leading towards a LN on the first lane at 02:21:362 - but the music plays a totally unexpected chord and thus the pattern never resolves. you know what i'm talking about?

Zen's Insane
beautiful grass
00:11:076 - to me, the transition from normal scrolling to the jumpy effect just looks unnatural with nothing to justify it but the start of the string melody. After all, at 00:12:790 - , the lack of melody is represented by a .33x scroll speed, not a 1x scroll speed. I almost want to suggest that you delete the chord at 00:11:076 - and change the speed to .33x there, but that might throw off players more than you intended. You could also just put a 3.00x-0.33x jump there to start the effect earliier. (inconsistent technically, but maybe not noticeably so)
00:12:790 - lol cheeky
01:16:433 - http://puu.sh/vhc2A.jpg if you squint really hard it's a lightbulb
01:22:576 (82576|1,82576|0) - ghost note?
01:24:362 - I wonder if you this effect would be enhanced if it didn't scroll so much in between the dings. It seemed a little too weak to really intuitively represent the noise when I first saw it. I think it looks nice if you make it 10.0x-0.1x instead of 7.5x-0.6x and also add an additional jump before the notes start again (01:24:777 - , 1/16 snap)
02:19:648 - http://puu.sh/vhbZG.png awwwww

Lude's Another
00:11:290 - and 00:11:505 - these two chords have more notes than the other chords in the section (The first one is understandable if on purpose since there are no LN ends)
00:41:933 - http://puu.sh/vmGGk.png awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
simple suggestion, 01:57:362 - and 01:59:933 - are different pitches so you could maybe move 01:59:933 (119933|3) - to the right or something. it's also inconsistent that there are two LN starts here, so maybe you could do it like this http://puu.sh/vmH33.jpg to just have one LN start
02:14:933 - i very politely insist that you reconsider this, because it sticks out like a sore thumb in the middle of your smooth patterning (or should i say sore ring finger Dx)
02:21:148 (141148|4) - ok i HAVE to ask... althoguh i'm sure you have a reason... why is this not on the seventh lane

jakads' Extra
00:55:648 - 00:57:790 - 00:58:433 - 00:58:862 - 00:59:290 - missing drum-hitclaps? i think?
01:16:648 - missing drum-hitfinish
01:17:076 - 01:18:790 - missing drum-hitclaps

Alter Ego
01:43:594 - http://puu.sh/vmMHO.png you've heard of horizontal symmetry... you've heard of vertical symmetry... you've heard of translational symmetry... you've even heard of 180-degree rotational symmetry. And maybe you've been lucky enough to come across the rare 90-degree rotationally symmetrical pattern. But this is it, boys. The Big One. The One We've All Been Waiting For. The Most Advanced osu!mania Symmetry To Date. The story of a pattern that dared to be hexagonal in a world of rectangles. The aesthetic is off the charts. The playability? Sufficient. One small step for Jin... one giant step for Jinkind. 60-degree rotational symmetry.
02:11:023 - so this is the only 1/4 jack in the entire map. A 53 ms gap. If you're a 60 fps scrub like me then that's only three frames LOL
anyway since it only shows up once (and not in a particularly important location) i want to make sure you're certain about it. have you considered using 1/4 jacks in other, more climactic sections?

the hitsound check was pretty basic because like who's gonna notice the hitsounds on alter ego honestly
My impression: Stylish and sparkling clean!! There's no other group of mappers I would trust more with pushing the difficulty ceiling of the ranked pool.

Awaiting your response
Aruel
damn et
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Nivrad00 wrote:

BN check
General
The difficulty jump between Hard and Insane is pretty high but I'm gonna let it slide unless someone complains haha aight (zen's diff is kinda supposed to be the middle ground but waw SVs)

What's your reasoning for 7.5 OD on Another and 8 OD on Alter Ego? That's pretty low compared to the difficulty and speed of the map, even by osu standards
I'm sorry if this was already discussed, I'm late to the party lol ah now that i think about it you do have a point about another being a bit too low. The reason that Alter Ego's OD is 8 is due to the sheer difficulty of the map (putting above 8+ would probably be overkill for everyone except people like jakads) Changed Insane OD from 7.3 -> 7.5 and Another OD from 7.5 -> 8
Diffs
Easy
00:54:040 (54040|4,54040|2) - I think the chord would fit better at 00:54:040 -. Putting it on the first loud noise may be easier for beginners, AND it sounds more intuitive to my ears completely agree. fixed
01:10:540 (70540|4) - I think this note would be better at 01:10:219 -. The irregular rhythm you have currently isn't very explicit in the song the simpler the better!
01:39:362 (99362|2) - I definitely think this note should be at 01:39:255 -. I know that second hit is the beginning of the measure, but I always hear the first hit as the downbeat ;n; (adjust LN length if applied) altered this part a bit (like a reverse shield?)
02:03:362 - weird left bias http://puu.sh/v9li6.png (ok now i'm just being picky) repatterned :p
02:19:219 (139219|1) - I think it would be cool to move this to 02:19:433 - for the cymbal added a new note here instead. Since this is the climax anyway, I think it's fitting haha

I'm putting all my effort into this end of the spread because I know I'm not gonna be able to criticize Alter Ego ;-) xd

Normal
I think it would be a unique and intuitive choice to get rid of the chords at 00:11:076 - and 00:12:790 -! The doubles you have currently don't line up with any instrument in particular and only serve as superfluous structure. also a possibility on Hard sticking to the main melody, sounds good~
01:39:362 (99362|6) - same suggestion about the downbeat fixed
01:42:683 (102683|2) - hey this is the same sound as the following two. i suggest moving it to the middle lane moved
from the beginning of the kiai to 02:19:433 - there's only one note in the middle lane! (02:11:076 - ) If you were going for a pseudo-6k section you should remove it, or maybe use it more consistently tried to avoid the usage of the center column here cuz beginner players usually have hard time with spacebar ;n; but I repatterned the very ending so that the center column is more emphasized on the downbeat!

Hard
00:32:558 - hmm... I don't know if these ~50 ms spaces are difficulty-appropriate... but i'm no authority on LN mapping and I assume you had testers l0l yeah I think they're fine haha
00:38:826 - you should put a note here to make a nice little gallop (oh geez taiko terminology) added and repatterened~
01:19:648 - to 01:28:862 - jinjin forgets what keymode he's mapping for 11 measures
jk lol lane distribution is overrated imo as long as it's symmetrical and consistent. dont change anything o/
02:14:505 - why a triple here but not later? same sound. makes sense to accent structurally but not intuitively i think removed that chord part haha (also restructured few notes just before that part for better hand bias)

Insane
00:02:505 - agh the note distortion (Calm down niv... it was probably on Purpose...) ;-;
00:05:933 (5933|2,6040|4) - why not flip these and make the next part consistent? like i'm actually curious, since it looks like it was on purpose whoaa good idea
00:09:362 (9362|4,9469|2) - same same
00:10:540 (10540|4,10594|6,10648|3,10701|5) - must say the awkwardness of this one-handed pattern seems out of place in this diff. ;_; though i have to admit it looks nice fixed to something that looks less nice but plays better :p
00:18:790 (18790|2,18844|0,18898|3,18951|1) - oof (well at least the difficulty is balanced between hands now l0l) was actually going for pitch relevancy here but I think i can forgo that to make it more playable, repatterened
00:52:219 (52219|1,52273|3,52326|5) - this isn't a very good way to represent the bursty noise. I would recommend LNs... the rhythm sounds like it "bounces" right from 00:52:219 - to 00:52:433 - nice catch, fixed~
00:52:969 (52969|2,53023|5,53076|0,53076|1) - although i like the pitch, it doesn't make sense to use a sharp alternating-hand pattern for such a light sound. Because of the speed of the song, the note's ambiguous placement, and the chaos of this section, players at this level are much more likely to approximate its timing and process it as a superfluous space filler rather than "feeling" the alternating rhythm. (Or am I just a noob?) I do agree somewhat but I do feel that it's fine for this difficulty.. I did try moving one note to make it feel a bit more comfortable (?)
01:27:148 - ok the note distortion here is totally unnecessary changed
01:48:148 - hey cool idea, if you extend these LNs to 01:48:683 - then you'll further accentuate the sudden silence by having more releases at once. also that blank space in the left hand is just ugly rn good idea~
02:20:076 - same idea, if you turned these into LNs. downside: you wouldn't get the cool effect where it looks like it's leading towards a LN on the first lane at 02:21:362 - but the music plays a totally unexpected chord and thus the pattern never resolves. you know what i'm talking about? tried something else in my own way with your idea, hopefully this works well too!

jakads' Extra
00:55:648 - 00:57:790 - 00:58:433 - 00:58:862 - 00:59:290 - missing drum-hitclaps? i think? oooh nice catch
01:16:648 - missing drum-hitfinish
01:17:076 - 01:18:790 - missing drum-hitclaps fixed all hitsounds

Alter Ego
01:43:594 - http://puu.sh/vmMHO.png you've heard of horizontal symmetry... you've heard of vertical symmetry... you've heard of translational symmetry... you've even heard of 180-degree rotational symmetry. And maybe you've been lucky enough to come across the rare 90-degree rotationally symmetrical pattern. But this is it, boys. The Big One. The One We've All Been Waiting For. The Most Advanced osu!mania Symmetry To Date. The story of a pattern that dared to be hexagonal in a world of rectangles. The aesthetic is off the charts. The playability? Sufficient. One small step for Jin... one giant step for Jinkind. 60-degree rotational symmetry. 5 / 7 would read again
02:11:023 - so this is the only 1/4 jack in the entire map. A 53 ms gap. If you're a 60 fps scrub like me then that's only three frames LOL
anyway since it only shows up once (and not in a particularly important location) i want to make sure you're certain about it. have you considered using 1/4 jacks in other, more climactic sections? you bring up a nice point, I've been thinking about this for a while and i think it might be just better to give up the jack in this part for a more comfortable pattern (even though this whole section is extremely difficult anyway hahaha)

the hitsound check was pretty basic because like who's gonna notice the hitsounds on alter ego honestly
My impression: Stylish and sparkling clean!! There's no other group of mappers I would trust more with pushing the difficulty ceiling of the ranked pool.

Awaiting your response
Thank you so much for your time on checking this map niv <3

Awaiting other GD responses
Lude

Nivrad00 wrote:

BN check
Diffs
Lude's Another
00:11:290 - and 00:11:505 - these two chords have more notes than the other chords in the section (The first one is understandable if on purpose since there are no LN ends) Fixed; seems an error. Instead, added a note on 00:11:076 - for the crash
00:41:933 - http://puu.sh/vmGGk.png awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Re-arranged according to the pitch
simple suggestion, 01:57:362 - and 01:59:933 - are different pitches so you could maybe move 01:59:933 (119933|3) - to the right or something. it's also inconsistent that there are two LN starts here, so maybe you could do it like this http://puu.sh/vmH33.jpg to just have one LN start Re-arranged
02:14:933 - i very politely insist that you reconsider this, because it sticks out like a sore thumb in the middle of your smooth patterning (or should i say sore ring finger Dx) Fixed; it's now on index and middle finger
02:21:148 (141148|4) - ok i HAVE to ask... althoguh i'm sure you have a reason... why is this not on the seventh lane Done
Thanks for the time!
UPDATE
Nivrad00
oh no!! 00:41:933 - http://puu.sh/vmGGk.png on Another wasn't a criticism!!

I just wanted to point out that it's in the shape of a heart!!
Lude

Nivrad00 wrote:

oh no!! 00:41:933 - http://puu.sh/vmGGk.png on Another wasn't a criticism!!

I just wanted to point out that it's in the shape of a heart!!
Let me kill myself
DeletedUser_259972
jinjin applied all the mods
cool
now check my map plz xdd

need to change my patterns a bit so might update soon
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Updated Lude's diff
+ minor changes to Alter Ego diff for better playability
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Since Evening is away in the army, I'll take care of Zenny's part for now (I do think his diff is nice as is so I won't change much)

Nivrad00 wrote:

Zen's Insane
beautiful grass
00:11:076 - to me, the transition from normal scrolling to the jumpy effect just looks unnatural with nothing to justify it but the start of the string melody. After all, at 00:12:790 - , the lack of melody is represented by a .33x scroll speed, not a 1x scroll speed. I almost want to suggest that you delete the chord at 00:11:076 - and change the speed to .33x there, but that might throw off players more than you intended. You could also just put a 3.00x-0.33x jump there to start the effect earliier. (inconsistent technically, but maybe not noticeably so) went with the last suggestion, I think that's what makes this the most consistent
00:12:790 - lol cheeky
01:16:433 - http://puu.sh/vhc2A.jpg if you squint really hard it's a lightbulb :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
01:22:576 (82576|1,82576|0) - ghost note? fixed this (should be 1/4 snap not 1/6) and rearranged the SVs accordingly
01:24:362 - I wonder if you this effect would be enhanced if it didn't scroll so much in between the dings. It seemed a little too weak to really intuitively represent the noise when I first saw it. I think it looks nice if you make it 10.0x-0.1x instead of 7.5x-0.6x and also add an additional jump before the notes start again (01:24:777 - , 1/16 snap) goooood
02:19:648 - http://puu.sh/vhbZG.png awwwww zennyheart <3
updated zenny's diff

just waiting for jakads now

(reminder to change interlude- tag to lude)
DeletedUser_259972
wow wtf you really waited
ok i feel terrible

gonna start fixing the patterns that are shitty imo
in around 4 hours
cuz that's when the highschool ends
and i'm in highschool atm
and it sucks
it really does
help me
Topic Starter
Jinjin

jakads wrote:

wow wtf you really waited
ok i feel terrible

gonna start fixing the patterns that are shitty imo
in around 4 hours
cuz that's when the highschool ends
and i'm in highschool atm
and it sucks
it really does
help me
:D

just make sure not to mess up the hitsounded notes or else i have to go over and redo them again ;-;
DeletedUser_259972
it became 7.86*
i don't understand it either
http://puu.sh/vqnjQ/0fb2082ab8.zip

i can nerf it if you want
Topic Starter
Jinjin

jakads wrote:

it became 7.86*
i don't understand it either
http://puu.sh/vqnjQ/0fb2082ab8.zip

i can nerf it if you want
ㄷㄷ
루드님 난이도가 포럼에서 5.75*이기 때문에 7.75를 넘기면 안돼요 ㅠㅠ
마지막 부분을 조금 너프 하셔야 할듯

Will update for now, but jakads should be nerfing it a bit
DeletedUser_259972
deleted like 4 notes http://puu.sh/vrlc3/a695444c29.zip
wew i am dumb
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Updated again! ready to go~
Soul Evans
All this talk about hearts reminded me of niv's old mod on haelequin lmao
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