gaston_2199 wrote:

Hi!
Mod from my queue:

[General]

1. Delete "53847436_p0.PNG" if you not used
2. Move this point (kiai time) 01:39:761 here 01:40:084 in Kantan, Futsuu and Oni
   
   all done, thanks!

[Stein's Muzukashii]

1. 01:33:310 (16) - don
2. 01:33:632 (17) - don
3. 01:33:794 (18) - Move to 01:33:874

[Oni]

1. 01:25:084 (470,471,472) - ddkkd (add kd) nah but re-arranged a bit

[Inner Oni]

1. I don't see any errors. Shoot star~

Sorry for the short mod, but it hasn't much problems. Good luck!

milr_ wrote:

언제나 이지 난이도는 HP가 높ㅇ...

poots_mcgoots wrote:

Hello! You asked for Kantan / Futsuu diff gap suggestions?
(i hope this is what you meant haha)

For changing the Kantan, I don't think you can. I think it's simple enough. However, the Futsuu could use some adjustments.

Simple things like the beginning going k-dd and then the next going k-dd--d-k or something
The first kiai going like:

And the second:

or something of the like. (with added notes for consistency or whatever)

Having 00:45:890 - go like:

Or something similar (please be mindful that I am not changing from don to kat or whatnot, I'm just placing notes)

Really, all I'm doing there is making more use of the red ticks. Adding more note density.
If you do this however, you need to be mindful as to not make Kantan super easy, then Futsuu more like a miniature Muzukashii.
A good balance would be to make the kiai's pretty dense but still have breaks, then the off-times and non-build-up times a little more light like a Futsuu replacing a Kantan on a real easy map.

Anyways, it boots up the difficulty quite a bit, and brings you to roughly 2.21 stars (which is good for this set)
Do that, and you consistently have around 1 star to 1.5 stars increase on the difficulties, which should work.

So yeah! Those are just some of my ideas
Good luck!

[R] wrote:

yo

[Kantan]
00:40:084 - delete, so the other drum part can hear nicely ok, not bad

[Futsuu]
00:16:536 - delete ? ok
00:20:890 - move 00:20:568 - match with drum oh, that's not my intention..
01:06:858 - you can right click word labeled "Break" because kantan doesn't have rest here done. nice
01:25:568 - add note ? pattern almost same with kantan here they're finishers though. i can't make sure on it

[Muzukashii]
00:27:503 - change kat, high pitch here ok
01:04:923 (96,97) - delete ? doesn't have stream here there's no problem as muzu tbh
01:24:681 - move triplet doesn't fit here ^
01:26:374 - ^ ^


well maybe just that from me
good luck

desireofpainx wrote:

NM from my queue

[General]

1. File => open .osu file => Change "0,0,"ge1.png",0,0" to "0,0,"ge1.png",0,50" (42 line)

[Kantan]

1. SV 1,40 => 1,20 I'm not sure that it's fine for rank rule but okay
2. 00:48:471 (40,41,42,43) - I prefer kkdk here OK

[Futsuu]

1. 00:23:955 (43) - d OK
2. 00:42:987 (95) - what about k here Re-arranged
3. 00:56:858 (140,141,142) - ddk OK
4. 00:58:149 (144,145,146) - kdk OK
5. 01:03:632 (163) - k? OK
6. 01:43:632 - u can add note here Intended for break
7. 01:48:471 (73,74,75) - I prefer kdk here 01:47:181 (67,68,69) - it;s also kdk so i prefer to keep for various pattern

[Stein's Muzukashii]

1. 00:58:471 (68) - k I think ddd d is more easier as Muzu diff and it's good for consistency with kkk k
2. 01:01:374 (81) - k ^
3. 01:03:955 (93) - k OK
4. 01:04:439 (94,95) - dk OK

[Oni]

1. 00:02:503 - add note here, you can hear drum Intended for diff gap with inner oni
2. 00:03:794 - ^ ^
3. 00:06:374 - ^ ^
4. 01:18:148 (432) - K here is possible i prefer d
5. 01:31:858 (497,498,499,500,501) - I prefer ddkdd here umm ok
6. 01:37:019 (530,531,532,533,534) - ^^

game rock wrote:

Hi!

Request from Jessi, Thousand & Gemu's Taiko Queue

d
k
D (Big d)
K (Big k)

[General]
You forgot remove the Widescreen Support in Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii and Oni. ok

• [ Kantan]

1. 00:22:665 (13) - Can you put a finish D or K because can hear a big sound. ok
2. 00:18:794 (8) - Put a finish D to keep the sequence and the same big sound with 00:17:503 (7) - Deleted D of 00:17:503 (7) -
3. 00:24:600 (15) - The tone in this part is increases so put a k. Also sounds very nice. ok
4. 00:29:116 (20) - Put a finish D to keep the sequence and balance with 00:27:826 (19) - both notes have the same big sound. Also to keep consistency with the second suggestion. No.. I intended something different what i can't write well in detail
5. 00:56:213 (51) - Put a finish D or K because is the begin of a kiai and this part have a big sound. cool
6. 01:06:536 (1) - Is better a finish D. lower interval tbh
7. 01:25:890 (22,23) - In this case the sound is increases so change to finish K. yep
8. 01:31:052 (3) - Change to k to keep sequence d k d k 01:29:761 (2,3,4,7) - oh ok
9. 01:34:923 (10,11) - I can hear similar sound to a finish in this part so, put finish D. only 01:34:923 (10) - this note
10. 01:41:374 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - Can you make the contrary in this part, change to d k k k fined d d K -->
11. 01:45:245 (25,26) - Put finish and if you apply this suggest you please remove 01:47:181 (27) - to emphasize the finish.put finish and delete finish 01:46:536 (26) - here
12. 01:50:407 - Put a finish to add an exciting ending. keep for consistency with other diffs

• [ Futsuu]

1. 00:51:697 (120,121) - Ctrl G to keep sequence D k d k d k 00:51:374 (119,120,121,122,124,125) - ok
2. 01:25:890 (24,25) - The sound increases so change to finish K. sure
3. 01:36:213 (26) - I can hear a sound similar to a finish, so I suggest you change to finish K. keep for consistency
4. 01:46:052 (63) - Change to k, sounds very nice with 01:44:923 (59,60,61,62) - ok
5. 01:49:600 (76) - Change to finish K to keep the increase rhythm with 01:50:084 (77) - ok
6. 01:50:407 - Put a finish to add an exciting ending. same as previous diff
   
   Nice diff!

• [ Stein's Muzukashii]

1. 00:26:052 (101,102) - Sound much better if you make Ctrl G. agree
2. 00:40:407 (5) - Change to k to keep consistency with 00:37:826 (151,152,153,154) - yep
3. 01:31:213 - You forgot add a note to keep density, can be a k or d. i think it's intended 3-plots pattern
4. 01:41:213 - The same explication, so add a a k. ^
5. 01:42:342 (57) - The sound increases in this part, change to k. ok
6. 01:45:568 (71,72) - This sounds nice, but I can give you a idea: move 01:45:810 (72) - here 01:45:890 - better as muzu ok.
7. 01:47:100 (78) - The same idea, move to 01:47:181 - ^

• [ Oni]

1. 00:09:600 - You forgot add a note, is better a k. not really, it was for diff gap.
2. 00:28:149 (152,159) - Change to k, sounds very good. re-arranged
3. 00:56:455 (321,322,323,324,325,326,327) - Can I give you a idea --> If you apply this suggestion make the same in these parts to keep consistency in both 00:59:036 (338,339,340,341,342,343,344) - , 01:01:616 (357,358,359,360,361,362,363) - done
4. 01:50:407 - Put a finish to add an exciting ending. same as previous ( i really intended it for inner oni diff )
   
   Amazing diff!

• [ Inner Oni]
  
  I see this diff amazing! Just I suggest you change somes parts to sounds much better the pattern with the rhythm:

1. 00:13:229 (74) - Change to k. ok
2. 00:28:632 (204) - ^ ^
3. 00:48:794 (361,362,363) - Change to kkd. re-arranged thanks.
4. 01:47:745 (168) - Change to d. ok

I hope my mod has been helpful you, Good luck!

Volta wrote:

leaving a trace so i remember to mod

Nifty wrote:

Dope song, gonna try this mod ^^

- Kantan -

Most of the stuff here is gonna be changing certain kats to dons. I think kats should be used as flair to the main don line, especially in Kiai.

All of the following, change to dons. (Personally, I like don-heavy Kantans, since beginners like dons more)

00:02:020 (1,2,3,4) -
00:12:342 (2) -
00:23:955 (14) -
00:30:407 (21) -
00:34:923 (27) -
00:49:116 (41) -
00:53:632 (47) -
00:54:923 (48) -
00:55:890 (50) -
00:58:794 (54) -
01:22:019 (14,15,16) -
The rest is fine because it's the last Kiai so it's "harder" Some applied.

01:23:632 (18) - k mm no
01:09:116 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - change all d to k, all k to d. Dons should be the beat. Done.
00:27:181 (18,19) - dK OK
00:42:019 (35) - Fix so it's 4 beats Done. Thanks!

- Futsuu -

00:02:665 (2) - move 1/2 forward
00:03:955 (4) - move 1/2 forward
00:05:245 (6) - move 1/2 forward I think it will break pattern consistency so i want to keep here
00:17:181 (19) - d
00:17:503 (20) - K
00:18:794 (25) - k
Overall, the kats should have an obvious rhythm, like at 00:12:342 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - , repeating when necessary. Dons should kill the rest. Kats are still kinda of used as accessory, but there's more dons, so, more kats. hmm i tried re-arrange some parts. thanks to make me notice anyway

- Muzukashii -

00:11:697 (41,42,43) - ddk ok
00:33:955 (133,134,135) - ddk muzu 3-plots should be simple pattern like ddd or kkk
Change a few more ddd's and kkk's to ddk's and kkd's where appropriate (use my examples for appropriateness), if you're strict on the "only ddd and kkk" then that fine too. ^ and i think the bpm is kinda fast as muzu too
Not sure if every diff had this, but move the last Kiai timing section to 01:40:084 - woah kiai time error, thank you!

Hope I could help ^^

1. 00:07:826 - , 00:09:116 -, and 00:10:729 - add k
2. 00:12:987 - and 00:13:310 - add d
   >> 00:13:632 - and change to k, since the pitch sounds same with 00:12:342 -
3. 00:14:278 - and 00:14:600 - add d
4. 00:18:149 - and 00:18:471 - add k, to make contrast pattern with above point
5. 00:19:439 - and 00:19:761 - add k,
   >> 00:20:084 - then change to d, same reason as above
6. 00:22:342 - i think removing this note is better to give longer rest for newbie after the off-beat finisher
7. 00:23:310 - and 00:23:632 - add k
8. 00:25:890 - and 00:26:213 - add d
9. 00:32:665 - remove, same as 00:22:342 -
10. 00:29:761 - and 00:30:084 - add k
11. 00:47:503 - add d, and 00:47:826 - add k
12. 00:49:439 - add k
13. 00:53:310 - add d
14. 00:54:278 - add k
15. 00:58:471 - add d
16. 00:59:439 - , 01:01:052 - add k
17. 01:02:019 - add d
18. 01:12:665 - can be removed, this section is calm
    >> 01:17:826 - same as ^
    >> 01:14:278 (5,6,7) - maybe change to k, so it is not all d in the entire section?
19. 01:22:342 - i think remove will be better for kantan player, sudden 1/1 after a long rest might threw them off
20. 01:29:116 - can be removed too, better give rest after the spinner
21. 01:30:407 - and 01:30:729 - add d
22. 01:31:697 - and 01:32:019 - add k
23. 01:35:568 - and 01:36:858 - add d
24. 01:39:439 - remove? i think rhythm is too complex for beginner
25. 01:40:729 - and 01:41:052 - add k
26. 01:42:019 - and 01:42:342 - add d
27. 01:45:890 - add d
28. 01:50:084 - remove

1. btw, 01:06:536 - there are 2 green lines (unrankable)
   

Volta wrote:

first, i want you to fix the spread, currently it looks like below:
Difficulty(Note Density) = K (126) >>>> F (301) >> M (443) >> O (619) >>> I (849)

kantan need to add more notes to balance the spread, and here's my suggestion. if it is somehow doesn't suit you, i hope you can find alternatives

[Kantan]

1. 00:07:826 - , 00:09:116 -, and 00:10:729 - add k
2. 00:12:987 - and 00:13:310 - add d
   >> 00:13:632 - and change to k, since the pitch sounds same with 00:12:342 -
3. 00:14:278 - and 00:14:600 - add d
4. 00:18:149 - and 00:18:471 - add k, to make contrast pattern with above point
5. 00:19:439 - and 00:19:761 - add k,
   >> 00:20:084 - then change to d, same reason as above
6. 00:22:342 - i think removing this note is better to give longer rest for newbie after the off-beat finisher
7. 00:23:310 - and 00:23:632 - add k
8. 00:25:890 - and 00:26:213 - add d
9. 00:32:665 - remove, same as 00:22:342 -
10. 00:29:761 - and 00:30:084 - add k
11. 00:47:503 - add d, and 00:47:826 - add k
12. 00:49:439 - add k
13. 00:53:310 - add d
14. 00:54:278 - add k
15. 00:58:471 - add d
16. 00:59:439 - , 01:01:052 - add k
17. 01:02:019 - add d
18. 01:12:665 - can be removed, this section is calm
    >> 01:17:826 - same as ^
    >> 01:14:278 (5,6,7) - maybe change to k, so it is not all d in the entire section?
19. 01:22:342 - i think remove will be better for kantan player, sudden 1/1 after a long rest might threw them off
20. 01:29:116 - can be removed too, better give rest after the spinner
21. 01:30:407 - and 01:30:729 - add d
22. 01:31:697 - and 01:32:019 - add k
23. 01:35:568 - and 01:36:858 - add d
24. 01:39:439 - remove? i think rhythm is too complex for beginner
25. 01:40:729 - and 01:41:052 - add k
26. 01:42:019 - and 01:42:342 - add d
27. 01:45:890 - add d
28. 01:50:084 - remove

I accepted all suggestions except making 5-plots stream on kiai. still, i think density is fine as kantan at all.

call me again if you feel awkward on them.

[Inner Oni]

1. btw, 01:06:536 - there are 2 green lines (unrankable)
   
   
   Done!

will continue after that. maybe you can do selfmod for futsuu and muzu first? lol

re-arranged some k d stuffs on futsuu, and 3-plots, kiai beatsnap problem on muzu.

waiting your re-check.

1. 00:15:729 - i think can be deleted for better spread
2. 00:16:858 (16,17,18) - change to kkk or kkd? can follow better with next point
3. 00:17:503 ~ 00:20:084 - might want to change it like below, to make contrast pattern like kantan
   
4. 00:20:890 - and 00:22:019 - delete can be more friendly and give more appropriate rest moment
5. 00:26:052 - move to 00:26:374 - ? i think will flows better rather than sudden 1/2 after a break
6. 00:31:213 - and 00:32:342 - can be removed
   >> 00:31:858 - change to K?
7. 00:56:536 - remove to make break
8. 00:56:858 (133,134,135) - change to dkd? i think it will emphasis the voice better
   >> 00:58:149 (137,138,139,140) - change to kkk-d
   >> 00:59:439 (142,143,144,145) - change to k-ddk
9. 01:02:181 - move to 01:01:213 - same reason as above point
   >> 01:03:471 - change to k
10. 01:30:084 - change to k? i think is better to emphasis same pitch with 01:30:407 -
    >> 01:31:374 - same as^
    >> 01:35:245 - same as^
    >> 01:36:536 - same as^
11. 01:41:213 - and 01:42:503 - remove for spread
12. 01:37:826 - and 01:38:310 - can be removed

1. 01:08:632 - , 01:09:923 - , 01:11:213 - , 01:12:826 - , 01:13:794 - , 01:15:084 - , 01:16:374 - , 01:17:987 - can be deleted to make this section calmer and make better spread.
2. the kiai instead can be made denser by adding notes at 00:12:826 - , 00:14:761 - , 00:16:052 - , 00:17:342 - , 00:18:632 - , 00:19:923 - ,
   >> 00:22:342 - can be removed to make little rest before next section, like at 00:32:665 -
3. 00:28:955 - , 00:30:245 - , add note
4. 00:51:858 - ^
5. 01:30:568 - , 01:40:890 -, 01:45:729 -, 01:47:019 - add note
   

1. 00:39:761 - change to d? kinda inconsintent with previous duplets
2. 00:48:632 - move to 00:48:794 - will follow the melody in a way better imo
3. 00:53:794 - same as ^

1. 00:14:761 - change to d can emphasis the high pitch in next note better imo

Felt7z wrote:

Hi!
日本語で書いていくので、わからないところがあれば聞いてください。
時間がかかりそうなので、まずInner OniとOniだけmoddingしますが、頼んでもらえればMuzukashii～Kantanも今後modできます。
もし既に変更したところがあったらすみません！

Inner Oni

About using 1/3
今はSDVXの譜面に近いリズムになっていますが、声のリズムが1/3なので、taikoではそのリズムを使ったほうが面白いと思います。
Oniと同じように1/3のリズムにすることを強くおすすめします。

1. 00:34:842 (250) - Change to d, and 00:34:923 (251,252,253,254) - Change to kkkk(1/3).
2. 00:35:326 - Delete, 00:35:407 (256) - Change to d, and 00:35:487 - Add d or k. 1/3を使う場合はリズムが複雑になるので、1/3の部分の後に休憩を入れたほうがいいでしょう。1/3がkkkkとなっている場合は、このようなリズムだと叩きやすいと思います。
3. 00:40:003 - Add d. 00:34:842 と同じリズムにするためです。
4. 00:40:084 (297,298,299,300,301) - Change to kkkk(1/3). 同じ理由です。
5. 00:40:649 - Add d. 00:35:487 にkを追加した場合、同じリズムにしたほうがいいでしょう。
6. 00:58:149 (444,445,446,447,448) - Change to kkkk(1/3).
7. 00:58:632 (449) - Change to d, and 00:58:713 - Add d.
8. 01:03:310 (492,493,494,495) - Change to kkkk(1/3).
9. 01:03:713 (496) - Move to 01:03:874 .これらの変更も、統一されたリズムにするためです。

1. 00:12:342 (66) - Remove finisher? 確かにフレーズの最初ですが、強調するべき強い音は無いと思います。
2. 00:19:923 (133) - Change to k. 曲により合います。
3. 00:23:955 (162,163,164,165) - Change to k_kkd. 00:22:665 と似ているリズムにするためです。
4. 00:41:455 (309) - Change to d. kd_dk_d_/kdddk_d_のように似た配置にするとリズムに乗りやすいと思います。
5. 00:45:568 (336) - Change to K(add finisher). この音は強調するべきでしょう。
6. 00:45:890 (337) - Remove finisher? 逆に、こちらは 00:12:342 (66) と同じく強い音がないので、bigにする必要は無いと思います。特に、 00:45:568 (336) をbigに変える場合は、bigが多くなるのでこちらも変更したほうが良いです。

1. From 00:51:052 to 00:54:923 - この部分は、00:45:890 からの部分と似たリズムのほうがいいでしょう。リズムの例を提案するので、これを参考に変更することををおすすめします。 →ddddk_ddk_kdkkd_/kdddk_kdk_d_kddd/k_d_ddkdk_ddk_d_/K ?

1. 00:55:649 - Add k. 声を含め、複数の楽器が鳴っています。
2. 00:56:052 (425) - Delete? 00:50:890 と同じように、休憩を入れていいでしょう。
3. 01:05:165 and 01:05:810 - Add d. 難しい部分なので、音符を入れて盛り上げたほうが良いと思います。
4. 01:26:374 (75,76,77,78,79) - Change to kkkdk? d_"kdk"→dk"kdk"→kd"kdk"→kk"kdk"というように、kdkの音を揃えてみるのはどうでしょう？
5. 01:27:826 (91) - Change to d. おそらく、こちらのほうがプレイヤーは見やすいと思います。SRも上がるのでおすすめします。
6. 01:28:149 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Change to kkkkkk/d. 同じように、こちらも譜面が見やすくなります。音も高くなっているので、より曲に合うでしょう。
7. 01:29:278 - Add K? 高速の音符を2つに増やすと、より声に合うと思います(複雑すぎるかもしれませんが)。その場合、01:29:358 にあるtiming pointを 01:29:197 あたりに変更するといいでしょう。

1. 01:34:842 - Add d. 01:33:552 (37) と揃えるためです。
2. 01:43:874 - ^
3. 01:45:165 - ^
4. 01:43:955 (131,132,133,134,135) - Change to k_dk_dk.
5. 01:47:826 (169,170,171,172,173) - ^
6. 01:50:407 (186) - Add finisher? 曲の最後の音で、低音も鳴っているので、これもbigにしていいでしょう。

これらの提案どおりに変更するとSRは5.47くらいになると思います。

Oni

中級者でも叩きやすいように、似たリズムの箇所を似た譜面にする提案を多くしています。

1. 00:24:761 (128,129,130,131) - Change to ddk_k. こちらのほうが叩きやすいと思います。
2. 00:35:407 (196) - Move to 00:34:761 . リズムが複雑になるので、1/3の後には休憩を入れたほうが良いかもしれません。00:40:649 に移動するという方法もありますが、そちらはOniには難しいと思いました。
3. 00:41:620 - Add d. 00:40:971 と揃えましょう。
4. 00:45:568 (254) - Change to K(add finisher). Inner Oniと同じ理由です。
5. 00:45:890 (255) - Remove finisher. ^
6. 00:47:584 (266) - Change to k. kddよりkkdの方が叩きやすいと思います。
7. 00:52:745 (299) - ^
8. 00:48:632 (273) - Move to 00:48:632 . 1/1を主体としたリズムがいいと思います。
9. 00:53:794 (306) - Move to 00:53:955 . ^
10. 00:51:052 - Add finisher? Inner Oni でのddddkの代わりにbigで音を強めてみるのはどうでしょうか？
11. 01:03:794 (373) - Delete. 先程と同じ理由です。ただ、最後の一箇所なので、ここだけ Move to 01:03:874 として難しくしてもいいかもしれません。
12. 01:04:519 (377) - Change to d, and 01:05:165 - add d. 揃えましょう。
13. 01:04:923 (379) - Change d, and move to 01:04:842 . 同じように、01:04:197 (375) と揃えたほうがいいと思います。
14. 01:26:858 (476,477) - Ctrl+G. 01:25:568 (467,468) と統一。
15. 01:33:874 (509,510,511,512) - d__k__k__d. 01:44:197 (578,579,580,581) と統一。
16. 01:36:052 (522) - Change to d? 01:30:890 (489) と統一。リズムも分かりやすくなると思います。
17. 01:38:471 (540,541,542,543) - Ctrl+G. 音が上がっていくので。

以上です。Twitterでもosu!のチャットでもいいので、また気軽に呼んでください！

Volta wrote:

continuation (no kd)
since you decide to not make kantan denser, would be nice if make futsuu a little easier

[Futsuu]

1. 00:15:729 - i think can be deleted for better spread alright
2. 00:16:858 (16,17,18) - change to kkk or kkd? can follow better with next point kkd
3. 00:17:503 ~ 00:20:084 - might want to change it like below, to make contrast pattern like kantan
   hmm okay but 00:20:084 (29) - k
4. 00:20:890 - and 00:22:019 - delete can be more friendly and give more appropriate rest moment great
5. 00:26:052 - move to 00:26:374 - ? i think will flows better rather than sudden 1/2 after a break ok
6. 00:31:213 - and 00:32:342 - can be removed yep
   >> 00:31:858 - change to K? ok
7. 00:56:536 - remove to make break ok
8. 00:56:858 (133,134,135) - change to dkd? i think it will emphasis the voice better i prefer ddk here..
   >> 00:58:149 (137,138,139,140) - change to kkk-d ok
   >> 00:59:439 (142,143,144,145) - change to k-ddk ok
9. 01:02:181 - move to 01:01:213 - same reason as above point ok
   >> 01:03:471 - change to k ok
10. 01:30:084 - change to k? i think is better to emphasis same pitch with 01:30:407 -
    >> 01:31:374 - same as^
    >> 01:35:245 - same as^
    >> 01:36:536 - same as^
11. 01:41:213 - and 01:42:503 - remove for spread
12. 01:37:826 - and 01:38:310 - can be removed ^ all done

[Stein's Muzukashii]

1. 01:08:632 - , 01:09:923 - , 01:11:213 - , 01:12:826 - , 01:13:794 - , 01:15:084 - , 01:16:374 - , 01:17:987 - can be deleted to make this section calmer and make better spread.
2. the kiai instead can be made denser by adding notes at 00:12:826 - , 00:14:761 - , 00:16:052 - , 00:17:342 - , 00:18:632 - , 00:19:923 - ,
   >> 00:22:342 - can be removed to make little rest before next section, like at 00:32:665 -
3. 00:28:955 - , 00:30:245 - , add note
4. 00:51:858 - ^
5. 01:30:568 - , 01:40:890 -, 01:45:729 -, 01:47:019 - add note all done
   

[Oni]

1. 00:39:761 - change to d? kinda inconsintent with previous duplets
2. 00:48:632 - move to 00:48:794 - will follow the melody in a way better imo
3. 00:53:794 - same as ^ all done

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:14:761 - change to d can emphasis the high pitch in next note better imo ok

that's not all yet.

1. you may put Steins to the tag as the original Muzu mapper
2. why you use volume 91%? i think 90 is more nice number lol
   >> 01:08:471 ~ 01:18:149 - you can lower the volume in this section since it is very calm
3. as you don't have custom hitsound, change sample hitsound from Custom 1 --> Default for all timing points
4. in lower diffs, some of the green lines are redundant since there is no speed changes, such as 00:45:810 - , 01:19:197 - , 01:29:519 -
5. try to shift the BG down a bit to show the girl's face better using notepad at background and video event section to 0,40
   

1. you may use slider velocity 1.4 instead of 1.2 as bpm is not too high, notes being too close with each other is hard too see for newbie
2. 00:42:019 (47) - resnap this slider after that

1. 00:01:374 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6) - invert the color for more consistency with other diffs (k-->d and d-->k)

1. 00:02:020 - i think it's better to remove the finisher here, because feels overpowered compared with same sound at 00:04:600 - and 00:05:084 - , also for consistency with lower diffs
   >> 00:03:310 - same as ^
   >> 00:07:181 - same as ^
2. 00:20:568 - add k here and,
   >> 00:20:810 - make triplet ddd here, as he did at 00:31:132 -
   >> 00:21:052 - might want to change to k as it is similar drum sound with next note
3. 00:31:858 (135,136,137) - D-D-D instead like the first session?
4. 00:35:245 - change to d? the voice sounds same with previous triplet
5. 00:39:116 (163,164) - change to d so the next k at 00:39:439 - will be more stand out?
6. 00:40:407 - change to d, same as 00:35:245 and the next k will be more emphasized
7. 00:43:632 (1,2,3,4,5) - i think it's better to remove these notes as there is no notes in any diffs
8. 00:48:310 - add note here instead for consistency with 00:53:471 -
   >> 00:46:697 - add here too
9. 00:50:568 (27,28,29) - kkk instead?
10. 01:04:278 - better add note here since the intensity is increasing
11. 01:05:890 - map the spinner? futsuu has notes and oni is a bit dense there. kkk-kkk-d is good imo
    >> 00:42:665 - just realized this spinner can be mapped too. maybe try ddd-kkk-d
12. 01:22:261 - change to k? i think better to keep it simple for this difficulty level since rhythm is being complex
    >> 01:23:310 (44,45) - change to d, same as ^
13. 01:30:649 - possible to add d to make triplet, for more balanced spread between futsuu and oni
    >> 01:30:890 - can add d too to complete the sequence
14. 01:32:181 - change to d would emphasis the next melody better imo
15. 01:33:632 - change to d for simplicity?
16. 01:34:761 - maybe delete? to focus on previous drum only
17. 01:35:971 - move to 01:35:729 - and add d at 01:35:810 - , same reason as 01:30:649
    >> 01:36:213 - change to k
18. 01:38:471 (44,45,46) - i think ddd suits better with the noise
19. 01:40:971 - add d and 01:40:890 - change to d, same reason as 01:30:649
    >> 01:41:213 - add d and 01:41:374 - change to k
20. 01:44:278 - why not snap it to 01:44:197 -
    >> 01:44:600 - to 01:44:681 -
21. 01:45:084 - can be removed
22. 01:47:665 - change to d, same reason as 01:32:181 -
23. 01:48:632 - can be removed
24. 01:48:794 - change to d?

1. OD 5.5? for better overall OD spread
2. 00:01:858 - i think it's better to add k here for overall consistency with 00:07:019 - and to make a difference with muzu
   >> 00:03:149 - , 00:04:439 - and 00:09:600 - can add k too
3. 00:20:245 (106,107) - change to kd as you did at 00:15:165 -
4. 00:29:358 (163,164) - change to dk like other duplets in this session?
5. 00:40:568 - move to 00:39:923 - feels weird if empty here because of what you did at 00:34:761 -
6. 01:42:665 - can be changed to d, like at 01:47:826 -

1. 00:34:842 - remove and 00:34:923 - make 1/3 start from here like in Oni
2. 00:40:084 - 1/3 again
3. 00:58:149 - ^
4. 01:03:310 - ^
5. 00:45:487 - remove green line

Volta wrote:

i think this is the real check lol

[General]

1. you may put Steins to the tag as the original Muzu mapper Done.
2. why you use volume 91%? i think 90 is more nice number lol Done.
   >> 01:08:471 ~ 01:18:149 - you can lower the volume in this section since it is very calm 50%.
3. as you don't have custom hitsound, change sample hitsound from Custom 1 --> Default for all timing points Done.
4. in lower diffs, some of the green lines are redundant since there is no speed changes, such as 00:45:810 - , 01:19:197 - , 01:29:519 - Done.
5. try to shift the BG down a bit to show the girl's face better using notepad at background and video event section to 0,40 Done.
   

[Kantan]

1. you may use slider velocity 1.4 instead of 1.2 as bpm is not too high, notes being too close with each other is hard too see for newbie Done.
2. 00:42:019 (47) - resnap this slider after that Done.

[Futsuu]

1. 00:01:374 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6) - invert the color for more consistency with other diffs (k-->d and d-->k) Done.

[Stein's Muzukashii]

1. 00:02:020 - i think it's better to remove the finisher here, because feels overpowered compared with same sound at 00:04:600 - and 00:05:084 - , also for consistency with lower diffs
   >> 00:03:310 - same as ^
   >> 00:07:181 - same as ^
2. 00:20:568 - add k here and,
   >> 00:20:810 - make triplet ddd here, as he did at 00:31:132 -
   >> 00:21:052 - might want to change to k as it is similar drum sound with next note
3. 00:31:858 (135,136,137) - D-D-D instead like the first session?
4. 00:35:245 - change to d? the voice sounds same with previous triplet
5. 00:39:116 (163,164) - change to d so the next k at 00:39:439 - will be more stand out?
6. 00:40:407 - change to d, same as 00:35:245 and the next k will be more emphasized
7. 00:43:632 (1,2,3,4,5) - i think it's better to remove these notes as there is no notes in any diffs
8. 00:48:310 - add note here instead for consistency with 00:53:471 -
   >> 00:46:697 - add here too
9. 00:50:568 (27,28,29) - kkk instead?
10. 01:04:278 - better add note here since the intensity is increasing
11. 01:05:890 - map the spinner? futsuu has notes and oni is a bit dense there. kkk-kkk-d is good imo
    >> 00:42:665 - just realized this spinner can be mapped too. maybe try ddd-kkk-d
12. 01:22:261 - change to k? i think better to keep it simple for this difficulty level since rhythm is being complex
    >> 01:23:310 (44,45) - change to d, same as ^
13. 01:30:649 - possible to add d to make triplet, for more balanced spread between futsuu and oni
    >> 01:30:890 - can add d too to complete the sequence
14. 01:32:181 - change to d would emphasis the next melody better imo
15. 01:33:632 - change to d for simplicity?
16. 01:34:761 - maybe delete? to focus on previous drum only
17. 01:35:971 - move to 01:35:729 - and add d at 01:35:810 - , same reason as 01:30:649
    >> 01:36:213 - change to k
18. 01:38:471 (44,45,46) - i think ddd suits better with the noise
19. 01:40:971 - add d and 01:40:890 - change to d, same reason as 01:30:649
    >> 01:41:213 - add d and 01:41:374 - change to k
20. 01:44:278 - why not snap it to 01:44:197 -
    >> 01:44:600 - to 01:44:681 -
21. 01:45:084 - can be removed
22. 01:47:665 - change to d, same reason as 01:32:181 -
23. 01:48:632 - can be removed
24. 01:48:794 - change to d?

[Oni]

1. OD 5.5? for better overall OD spread Done.
2. 00:01:858 - i think it's better to add k here for overall consistency with 00:07:019 - and to make a difference with muzu Done.
   >> 00:03:149 - , 00:04:439 - and 00:09:600 - can add k too Done.
3. 00:20:245 (106,107) - change to kd as you did at 00:15:165 - Keep for interval
4. 00:29:358 (163,164) - change to dk like other duplets in this session? Done.
5. 00:40:568 - move to 00:39:923 - feels weird if empty here because of what you did at 00:34:761 - Done.
6. 01:42:665 - can be changed to d, like at 01:47:826 - Done.

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:34:842 - remove and 00:34:923 - make 1/3 start from here like in Oni Done.
2. 00:40:084 - 1/3 again Done.
3. 00:58:149 - ^ I want to keep here since this section is kiai and useful for song development itself ( idk how to say well in english )
4. 01:03:310 - ^ ^
5. 00:45:487 - remove green line Done.

well i'm going to modify her diff since she said 'i quit osu for a bit' and actually i got permission from her before

Volta wrote:

[Stein's Muzukashii]

1. 00:02:020 - i think it's better to remove the finisher here, because feels overpowered compared with same sound at 00:04:600 - and 00:05:084 - , also for consistency with lower diffs hmm i agree ok
   >> 00:03:310 - same as ^ ^
   >> 00:07:181 - same as ^ ^
2. 00:20:568 - add k here and,
   >> 00:20:810 - make triplet ddd here, as he did at 00:31:132 -
   >> 00:21:052 - might want to change to k as it is similar drum sound with next note this pattern suggestion is good at all. fine
3. 00:31:858 (135,136,137) - D-D-D instead like the first session? i agree this suggestion since i used D D D on my diffs
4. 00:35:245 - change to d? the voice sounds same with previous triplet yep
5. 00:39:116 (163,164) - change to d so the next k at 00:39:439 - will be more stand out? ^
6. 00:40:407 - change to d, same as 00:35:245 and the next k will be more emphasized ^
7. 00:43:632 (1,2,3,4,5) - i think it's better to remove these notes as there is no notes in any diffs alright
8. 00:48:310 - add note here instead for consistency with 00:53:471 - ^
   >> 00:46:697 - add here too ^
9. 00:50:568 (27,28,29) - kkk instead? ^ and changed 00:50:245 (26) - to k
10. 01:04:278 - better add note here since the intensity is increasing okay
11. 01:05:890 - map the spinner? futsuu has notes and oni is a bit dense there. kkk-kkk-d is good imo ok
    >> 00:42:665 - just realized this spinner can be mapped too. maybe try ddd-kkk-d ^
12. 01:22:261 - change to k? i think better to keep it simple for this difficulty level since rhythm is being complex ^
    >> 01:23:310 (44,45) - change to d, same as ^ ^
13. 01:30:649 - possible to add d to make triplet, for more balanced spread between futsuu and oni ok
    >> 01:30:890 - can add d too to complete the sequence that's way too hard imo, triplet is enough for this difficulty to emphasize the synth sound
14. 01:32:181 - change to d would emphasis the next melody better imo ok
15. 01:33:632 - change to d for simplicity? for consistency yeah
16. 01:34:761 - maybe delete? to focus on previous drum only ^
17. 01:35:971 - move to 01:35:729 - and add d at 01:35:810 - , same reason as 01:30:649 then i will delete 01:36:052 (31) - this one
    >> 01:36:213 - change to k ok
18. 01:38:471 (44,45,46) - i think ddd suits better with the noise ok (ddk tbh lmao)
19. 01:40:971 - add d and 01:40:890 - change to d, same reason as 01:30:649
    >> 01:41:213 - add d and 01:41:374 - change to k in this case i can accept all suggestions since this part is real highlight part ( idk how to say lel )
20. 01:44:278 - why not snap it to 01:44:197 -
    >> 01:44:600 - to 01:44:681 - what happened lol ok
21. 01:45:084 - can be removed done
22. 01:47:665 - change to d, same reason as 01:32:181 -
23. 01:48:632 - can be removed done
24. 01:48:794 - change to d? done

ArcherLove wrote:

loli ranbu

1. 01:38:794 ~ 01:40:084 - cut the kiai here like in lower diffs?
   
   
2. 00:16:213 - change to d suits better since the pitch is going down and somewaht consistent with 00:13:632 -
3. 00:29:116 - inconsistent with 00:27:826 - ? i suggest to
   
   1. 00:29:116 - change to d
   2. 00:29:197 - delete,
   3. 00:29:278 (209,210,211) - change to dkd, and
   4. 00:29:842 - add k to make it more consistent structure
4. 00:34:761 - change to d like you did at 00:39:923 - ?
5. 00:35:138 - change to k? i think is better since the 1/3 melody sounds same
   >> 00:40:299 - same as ^
6. 00:47:261 - maybe change to k for variation?
   >> 00:52:745 - and move to 00:52:584 - for consistency with above
7. 00:49:036 - move to 00:48:874 -
   >> 00:49:358 - and move to 00:49:197 - refer to 00:53:955 - for consistency
8. 01:30:487 - move to 01:30:971 - fits the melody better
9. 01:31:778 - move to 01:32:261 -
10. 01:35:649 - move to 01:36:132 -
11. 01:36:939 - move to 01:37:423 -
12. 01:46:455 - can add d to make the second part of last kiai denser, like at 01:41:294 -

1. 00:41:616 - can add d for better build-up

Volta wrote:

extra

[Inner Oni]

1. 01:38:794 ~ 01:40:084 - cut the kiai here like in lower diffs?
   
   
2. 00:16:213 - change to d suits better since the pitch is going down and somewaht consistent with 00:13:632 -
3. 00:29:116 - inconsistent with 00:27:826 - ? i suggest to
   
   1. 00:29:116 - change to d
   2. 00:29:197 - delete,
   3. 00:29:278 (209,210,211) - change to dkd, and
   4. 00:29:842 - add k to make it more consistent structure
4. 00:34:761 - change to d like you did at 00:39:923 - ?
5. 00:35:138 - change to k? i think is better since the 1/3 melody sounds same
   >> 00:40:299 - same as ^
6. 00:47:261 - maybe change to k for variation?
   >> 00:52:745 - and move to 00:52:584 - for consistency with above
7. 00:49:036 - move to 00:48:874 -
   >> 00:49:358 - and move to 00:49:197 - refer to 00:53:955 - for consistency
8. 01:30:487 - move to 01:30:971 - fits the melody better I want to keep here because if i move to there.. kiai part has so many kdk, dkd patterns.. ( and has some kinda personal reasons too )
9. 01:31:778 - move to 01:32:261 - ^
10. 01:35:649 - move to 01:36:132 - ^
11. 01:36:939 - move to 01:37:423 - ^
12. 01:46:455 - can add d to make the second part of last kiai denser, like at 01:41:294 -

[Oni]

1. 00:41:616 - can add d for better build-up

sorry taking too long haha

Volta wrote:

improved mapset a lot. pattern are generally nice and lower diffs got sufficient break. Muzukashii have a different style while keeping the overall spread even. Good luck.

Bubbled~

Chromoxx wrote:

did some irc, mostly changed a few things in lower diffs

irc

2017-02-24 19:34 Nanatsu: hello Chromoxx, do you have kinda many earlier requests to check my map ?_?
2017-02-24 19:34 Nanatsu: just asking tho
2017-02-24 19:34 Chromoxx: oh yea, lemme get on that today i guess
2017-02-24 19:35 Chromoxx: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/690886 DragonForce - Fury of the Storm [Tatsujin]]
2017-02-24 19:35 Chromoxx: just gonna point out 3 things here real quick so i can qualify this when ozzy wakes up xD
2017-02-24 19:36 Nanatsu: seems like he onlined 1 hour ago lmao
2017-02-24 19:36 Chromoxx: he just went to bed
2017-02-24 19:37 Nanatsu: usual thing on weekend (?
2017-02-24 19:37 Nanatsu: ok.. i'm going to do other works a bit too
2017-02-24 19:38 Nanatsu: thanks for response anyway!
2017-02-24 19:41 Chromoxx: can you np your map again pls?
2017-02-24 19:41 Chromoxx: it was bubbled right?
2017-02-24 19:41 Nanatsu: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/884197 P*Light - Gekkou Ranbu [Inner Oni]]
2017-02-24 19:42 Nanatsu: yes
2017-02-24 19:42 Nanatsu: bubbled by volta
2017-02-24 19:42 Nanatsu: it was 1 week ago yeah
2017-02-24 19:42 Chromoxx: ok cool
2017-02-24 19:44 Nanatsu: if you prefer irc mod probably we can check now
2017-02-24 19:44 Chromoxx: nah i'll make a quick post i guess
2017-02-24 19:46 Nanatsu: that would be nice too
2017-02-24 19:46 Chromoxx: inner oni and oni look fine
2017-02-24 19:48 Chromoxx: muzu has some things
2017-02-24 19:49 Nanatsu: ok
2017-02-24 19:49 Nanatsu: hmm i can edit his diff since i got permission from him
2017-02-24 19:49 Nanatsu: he is kinda quit
2017-02-24 19:50 Nanatsu: *osu
2017-02-24 19:50 Chromoxx: hm
2017-02-24 19:51 Chromoxx: well irc is ok i guess
2017-02-24 19:51 Nanatsu: alright
2017-02-24 19:51 Chromoxx: 00:12:665 - notes like these aren't snapped to the melody properly
2017-02-24 19:51 Chromoxx: no need to simplify it in the muzu so i'd suggest moving to 00:12:584 - 
2017-02-24 19:51 Chromoxx: same goes for 00:13:955 - 
2017-02-24 19:51 Chromoxx: 00:15:245 - this too etc...
2017-02-24 19:52 Chromoxx: just go over the entire part
2017-02-24 19:52 Chromoxx: 00:22:987 - these notes in this part too
2017-02-24 19:53 Chromoxx: you can also add notes at 00:13:471 - and 00:14:116 - 00:15:407 - etc.
2017-02-24 19:54 Nanatsu: i think 5 plots are enough consindering rest part?
2017-02-24 19:54 Nanatsu: i'm trying re-arrange anyway..
2017-02-24 19:54 Chromoxx: yea i guess
2017-02-24 19:54 Chromoxx: no need to add the notes, but the re snap would be good
2017-02-24 19:57 Nanatsu: done i guess
2017-02-24 19:57 Chromoxx: 01:01:132 - i'd suggest moving this to 01:01:294 - since when mapping a 5plet sound in the music as one note + a triplet one usually uses the triplet at the end for better emphasis on the last note
2017-02-24 19:58 Chromoxx: 00:58:149 - also these are wrongly snapped, just mapping the 1/3 dddd would work fine in the muzu
2017-02-24 19:58 Chromoxx: 01:03:310 - same
2017-02-24 19:58 Nanatsu: maybe this 3-plot is focused on vocal
2017-02-24 19:59 Nanatsu: hmm yeah 1/3 would be better
2017-02-24 19:59 Nanatsu: overall
2017-02-24 19:59 Chromoxx: the vocals at 01:01:052 - are a 5plet, d ddd would be better for emphasis on 01:01:374 - while following it
2017-02-24 20:00 Nanatsu: ok
2017-02-24 20:00 Chromoxx: 01:27:181 - this would be better as a slider imo since it would require following the beat more strictly, which is strongly given here
2017-02-24 20:01 Chromoxx: 01:27:181 - also in the oni add a finisher on this slider for more emphasis (if you change to slider in the muzu too also add the finisher there)
2017-02-24 20:02 Nanatsu: all done
2017-02-24 20:03 Chromoxx: ok that's it for the muzu, lemme check futsuu
2017-02-24 20:05 Chromoxx: 01:27:181 - same here again, slider would be better imo
2017-02-24 20:05 Nanatsu: yep
2017-02-24 20:05 Nanatsu: finisher slider right
2017-02-24 20:05 Chromoxx: 00:44:600 - these 3 notes could be finishers
2017-02-24 20:05 Chromoxx: and this one K
2017-02-24 20:06 Nanatsu: ok
2017-02-24 20:06 Nanatsu: how about delete 01:29:116 (1) - it
2017-02-24 20:06 Nanatsu: i couldnt notice muzu didnt put note on here
2017-02-24 20:06 Chromoxx: sure good idea
2017-02-24 20:06 Nanatsu: ok
2017-02-24 20:07 Chromoxx: ok that's it for futsuu
2017-02-24 20:10 Chromoxx: kantan
2017-02-24 20:10 Chromoxx: 00:44:923 - this is too hard, delete 00:05:084 - and move 00:05:568 - to 00:05:245 - 
2017-02-24 20:10 Nanatsu: btw i'm wondering which is more easier for beginner players
2017-02-24 20:11 Nanatsu: spinner and slider
2017-02-24 20:11 Chromoxx: idk... slider i guess 
2017-02-24 20:11 Chromoxx: it doesn't really matter too much cos none of them break combo
2017-02-24 20:11 Nanatsu: done
2017-02-24 20:11 Chromoxx: 01:03:955 - slider here would be better too
2017-02-24 20:12 Chromoxx: or well, i'd suggest a d on 01:03:955 - and then slider from 01:05:245 - 
2017-02-24 20:12 Nanatsu: end 01:05:890 - here?
2017-02-24 20:12 Nanatsu: ok
2017-02-24 20:13 Nanatsu: then probably delete 01:06:536 (1) - ?
2017-02-24 20:13 Chromoxx: end the slider at 01:06:536 - i'd suggest to be consistent with 00:42:019 - 
2017-02-24 20:13 Nanatsu: great
2017-02-24 20:13 Chromoxx: oh yea also delete 01:03:310 - and add a note on 01:04:600 - too
2017-02-24 20:13 Chromoxx: to be consistent with the last part
2017-02-24 20:14 Chromoxx: 01:27:181 - again here the big slider instead
2017-02-24 20:14 Nanatsu: yep
2017-02-24 20:14 Chromoxx: 01:35:568 - maybe delete this to give a slight break
2017-02-24 20:15 Chromoxx: but it's fine i guess
2017-02-24 20:17 Nanatsu: prefer delete 01:36:858 - here
2017-02-24 20:17 Chromoxx: sure
2017-02-24 20:17 Chromoxx: well, update the map pls
2017-02-24 20:18 Nanatsu: updated!
2017-02-24 20:19 Nanatsu: o wait
2017-02-24 20:19 Nanatsu: i want to make finisher on oni 01:36:858 -
2017-02-24 20:19 Nanatsu: 01:29:439 (485) -
2017-02-24 20:20 Nanatsu: and plz tell me if you have something more problem on other diffs
2017-02-24 20:20 Chromoxx: sure u can add the finisher
2017-02-24 20:20 Chromoxx: i didn't really have any problem with the oni diffs
2017-02-24 20:21 Nanatsu: ok
2017-02-24 20:21 Nanatsu: done updated...
2017-02-24 20:22 Chromoxx: final recheck
2017-02-24 20:23 Chromoxx: 01:04:600 - kantan: this should be d to be consistent with the last part
2017-02-24 20:23 Nanatsu: oh.. i couldnt notice
2017-02-24 20:23 Nanatsu: done
2017-02-24 20:24 Nanatsu: i just moved circle
2017-02-24 20:24 Chromoxx: ye
2017-02-24 20:24 Chromoxx: update again and i'll check for any sneaky ai mod stuff before qualifying
2017-02-24 20:25 Nanatsu: updated
2017-02-24 20:25 Nanatsu: sneaky lel
2017-02-24 20:25 Chromoxx: ok lemme post irc so you can kd before i qualify
2017-02-24 20:25 Nanatsu: yap