LAMA - Spell · forum

Weedy

773 posts

Joined January 2014

Weedy 2017-10-04T01:55:13+00:00

hi im from ur q
my ears this song

Normal

00:09:303 (4) - maybe something like this for visual flow https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9237203
seemsgood

advanced

00:13:793 (1) - change to normal curve slider bc represents guitar and not drums and you use curves for your 1/2 sliders(personal)
00:10:527 (1) - ye same here
00:17:058 (1) - ye same here, etc

Fursum's duwang
ur stacks can be hard to read, ie. 00:19:507 (1,2,1,2,1) - i suggest manual stacking it more for reading

00:01:140 (2,4) - please die they overlap
00:32:976 (5,6,7) - there's no triplet here lol
00:42:364 (3) - make it something like this so it doesnt look like shitty blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9237236
00:59:099 - make clickable pls is vocal w

hex
fucking hexgrid doth thou beshittingst me

00:00:732 (1) - spinner isnt in any of the other diffs remove pls (or add spinner to all of the other diffs
00:13:793 (1) - copy pasta zzz
nothing to say other than to kil urshelf ppstrata dongrider

Yahuri

1,400 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Yahuri 2017-10-04T02:30:46+00:00

[[Pika]] wrote:
hi im from ur q
Normal
00:09:303 (4) - maybe something like this for visual flow https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9237203 sure
seemsgood

advanced
00:13:793 (1) - change to normal curve slider bc represents guitar and not drums and you use curves for your 1/2 sliders(personal) all of the sliders in the intro (before lyrics) are red anchor for more visual emphasis, curve sliders are primarily in the lyrics w/o kiai, kiai sliders are pretty much anything. 1/2 curve sliders here are to emphasize the guitar thing in contrast to 1/2 straight sliders. and im not changing those to 1/2 red anchor cuz using the same type of slider for everything is boring
00:10:527 (1) - ye same here same
00:17:058 (1) - ye same here, etc same

hex
00:00:732 (1) - spinner isnt in any of the other diffs remove pls (or add spinner to all of the other diffs this isnt in normal or advanced cuz putting such a long spinner would be really tiring for newbies.
00:13:793 (1) - copy pasta zzz when the music is basically the same there isnt any real reason for me to change this drastically

Fursum

523 posts

Joined August 2014

Fursum 2017-10-04T10:58:56+00:00

[[Pika]] wrote:
Fursum's duwang
ur stacks can be hard to read, ie. 00:19:507 (1,2,1,2,1) - i suggest manual stacking it more for reading
yea thats teh conzept i did, where i used them for emphasis instead of spacing in 2-3 places, ill probably use a more readable overlap as you said in a later update
00:01:140 (2,4) - please die they overlap overlaps r cut
00:32:976 (5,6,7) - there's no triplet here lol i can hear them through my shitty earbuds :d
00:42:364 (3) - make it something like this so it doesnt look like shitty blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9237236 i havent used any sharp angles so it would create an unnecessary highlight so id go with bad aesthetics
00:59:099 - make clickable pls is vocal w err, i like the way it is right now, could change if it gets pointed out later

thenk

Yahuri

1,400 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Yahuri 2017-10-15T20:26:19+00:00

noot

Fursum's Hard

smol blankets n stacks

00:03:589 (4,1,2) -
00:06:242 (2,3) -
00:09:303 (1,1) - stack
00:19:099 (1,2) -
00:25:017 (4,1,2,3) -
00:30:119 (1,2) -
00:40:731 (3,1) - stack
00:48:895 (3,4) -
00:55:425 (3,1) - stack
01:08:487 (3,4) -
01:23:180 (3,1) -

00:19:915 (3) - could convert into 2 circles + jump for the loud claps
00:34:201 (3,1) - blanket?
00:38:078 (4,1,3) - ^?
00:59:507 (1,2,3) - ^?
01:20:731 (1,2,3) - ^?
01:14:201 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - the NC pattern here is inconsistent with the rest of the chorus, i recommend just using normal NC pattern here (remove NC here 01:15:017 (1) and here 01:15:425 (1))
00:57:670 (4,1) - jump?
01:12:364 (2,1) - ^

clean up this stuff then we gud 2 go, ill apply hitsounds n get mods when ur done

Fursum

523 posts

Joined August 2014

Fursum 2017-10-16T15:31:32+00:00

cleaned up that stuff rejected some blankets cuz tricky with ds mostly the patterns not blankety

also for the suggested jumps i only used higher ds on the loudest claps so they should be fine without as they arent that strong

new stuff

osu file format v14

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Title:Spell
TitleUnicode:Spell
Artist:LAMA
ArtistUnicode:LAMA
Creator:Yahuri
Version:Fursum Hard
Source:No. 6
Tags:fursum shion nezumi anime atsuko asano あさの あつこ bones op opening tv size sony
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Saltssaumure

205 posts

Joined April 2017

Saltssaumure 2017-10-17T18:11:13+00:00

Hi from my modqueue. There's not much I can say bc this map is already very polished, so here's an overlap check with default skin on 4:3 screen res.

[Fursum's Hard]
00:35:834 (3) -
00:47:058 (2) -
01:10:527 (3) -
01:24:201 (2) -

[Normal]
00:09:303 (4) -
00:26:854 (1) -
00:37:058 (1) -
00:57:874 (1) -
01:10:936 (3) -

Good luck!

Yahuri

1,400 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Yahuri 2017-10-17T21:24:13+00:00

Saltssaumure wrote:
Hi from my modqueue. There's not much I can say bc this map is already very polished, so here's an overlap check with default skin on 4:3 screen res.

[Normal]
00:09:303 (4) -
00:26:854 (1) -
00:37:058 (1) -
00:57:874 (1) -
01:10:936 (3) -

Good luck!

im not sure what you mean by overlap check, these arent overlapped and they arent offscreen in play either

HLN

193 posts

Joined August 2016

HLN 2017-10-17T22:40:27+00:00

Fursum's Hard

00:06:854 (1) - remove nc
00:16:650 (3,1) - get rid of that overlap

Yes, very short, but i didn't spot any more issues

bejewelled

543 posts

Joined August 2015

bejewelled 2017-10-17T22:44:38+00:00

From m4m queue:

General Feedback
HP values across the board are too high. Suggestions:
Normal: 5 > 3
Advanced 5 > 4 or 4.5
Hard 6 > 5
Hex 7 > 6 (I guess 7 is fine here but if you have any slow sections in the song this will kill players who haven't mastered the star range).

Hex
00:00:732 (1) - Have you considered mapping notes to this? There's some good rhythm and beats here.
00:12:364 (2,3) - ~~This is emphasized 0.3x less than the last three (2,3)'s.~~ NVM it's fine
00:25:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Don't see the point of this other than to add variety; I would increase the DS since the song doesn't really slow down or anything.
00:31:752 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
00:45:629 (5,6,1,2) - The (6) to (1) can be really jarring to players who think the rhythm just continues like that. Maybe make (5,6) into a slider?
01:10:527 (5) - Any reason why this is a slider and not circles? Same with 01:03:997 (5) -
Other than that it looks pretty good! Rhythm is spot-on.

Normal
00:09:303 (4) - This slider is partially off the grid. I'm not sure if that can outright DQ your map from getting ranked but I know that's one of the ranking criteria.
00:39:099 (4,1) - Note in-between, perhaps? To add some variety to the map.
Otherwise, amazing.

Rankability: 9 / 10 Even glancing through the other difficulties I see virtually zero errors and only minor stylistic things that could be improved but aren't necessary. Great job, good luck!

Saltssaumure

205 posts

Joined April 2017

Saltssaumure 2017-10-18T16:10:40+00:00

Yahuri wrote:
Saltssaumure wrote:
Hi from my modqueue. There's not much I can say bc this map is already very polished, so here's an overlap check with default skin on 4:3 screen res.

[Normal]
00:09:303 (4) -
00:26:854 (1) -
00:37:058 (1) -
00:57:874 (1) -
01:10:936 (3) -

Good luck!
im not sure what you mean by overlap check, these arent overlapped and they arent offscreen in play either

The objects overlap with the hp bar, score, etc. with the default skin.

makisokk

928 posts

Joined August 2013

makisokk 2017-10-18T18:57:02+00:00

Hello from your que
M4M my map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/677273

[Nromal]

00:09:303 (4,4) - hmm, Why in two identical cases of music, you decided to make two different sliders?
00:10:527 (1,1) - thiss too, i think 2 slider better expresses music
00:48:895 (4,5) - fix little blanket, or In my opinion this arrangement will be better
00:54:609 (3,4) - These two sliders look very strange, music like the one and the same and the vocals do not change much, but their arrangement does not look so good. Can try something like that?
01:00:323 (3,4) - little fix blanket
01:13:385 (3,4) - maybe copypast?

[Advanced]

Lul, more copypast looks good

[Fursum's Hard]

00:01:956 (4) - I think better 2 note 00:02:160 - have strong sound
00:05:221 (4) - ^
01:05:425 (2,1) - i think you can increase space, 01:05:629 (1) - have strong sound
01:05:221 (1,2,1,2) - or do it by increasing the spacing
01:11:752 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:12:160 (1,3) - i think bad overlap

[Hex]

00:00:732 (1) - hmm this spiner only in hex diff
lol A lot of symmetry, but it looks cool

well it's okay
Good luck with mappset

Yahuri

1,400 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Yahuri 2017-10-19T01:55:23+00:00

Saltssaumure wrote:
Hi from my modqueue. There's not much I can say bc this map is already very polished, so here's an overlap check with default skin on 4:3 screen res.

[Normal]
00:09:303 (4) -
00:26:854 (1) -
00:37:058 (1) -
00:57:874 (1) - not fixed
01:10:936 (3) - ^

Good luck!

fixed everything except red, these arent actual problems and the last 2 only overlap if you leave the key overlay on. i did try to fix them, but doing so would require remapping a lot since the kiai structure is much more tight than the intro.

makisokk wrote:
Hello from your que
M4M my map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/677273

[Normal]
00:09:303 (4,4) - hmm, Why in two identical cases of music, you decided to make two different sliders? the second highlight isnt a slider
00:10:527 (1,1) - thiss too, i think 2 slider better expresses music even though its same instrument i used 2/1 sliders to better show off the guitar melody like here 00:10:527 (1). i didnt do that on a couple of guitar places like here 00:13:793 (1) because then this section would have lower density than the next section 00:20:323 which is kinda silly
00:48:895 (4,5) - fix little blanket, or In my opinion this arrangement will be better fixed blanket
00:54:609 (3,4) - These two sliders look very strange, music like the one and the same and the vocals do not change much, but their arrangement does not look so good. Can try something like that? i prefer my pattern, its also flipped from 00:52:976 (1,2)
01:00:323 (3,4) - little fix blanket done
01:13:385 (3,4) - maybe copypast? no, 3 matches 01:12:568 (1) and 4 matches 01:15:017 (6)
[Advanced]
Lul, more copypast looks good cool
[Hex]
00:00:732 (1) - hmm this spiner only in hex diff no spinners in the lower diffs because a long spinner can get very tiring. fursum's diff is mapped like that cuz he wanted to, but i prefer spinner cuz of the whoosh sound
lol A lot of symmetry, but it looks cool
well it's okay
Good luck with mappset

Fursum wrote:
LowLevelPro wrote:
00:06:854 (1) - remove nc i think it is fine as i didnt use much 1/4 gaps and this is the first one
00:16:650 (3,1) - get rid of that overlap why it is cutey

since the mod didnt help, i cant give you kds sorry (youll still get a mod tho)

Swegmec wrote:
From m4m queue:

General Feedback
HP values across the board are too high. Suggestions:
Normal: 5 > 3
Advanced 5 > 4 or 4.5
Hard 6 > 5
Hex 7 > 6 (I guess 7 is fine here but if you have any slow sections in the song this will kill players who haven't mastered the star range). this was already 6 lol
changed spread to 3-4-5-6

Hex
00:00:732 (1) - Have you considered mapping notes to this? There's some good rhythm and beats here. i prefer spinner because of the whoosh sound, theres a stronger impact here 00:07:262 if i keep it as is imo
00:25:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Don't see the point of this other than to add variety; I would increase the DS since the song doesn't really slow down or anything. i mapped the DS so low because i was trying to follow the guitar with circles. making the DS normal with 8 consecutive circles would just make it harder than the vocal part, which doesnt make sense because this section isnt stronger than the vocal part.
00:31:752 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ ^
00:45:629 (5,6,1,2) - The (6) to (1) can be really jarring to players who think the rhythm just continues like that. Maybe make (5,6) into a slider? im not sure what you mean by "the rhythm continues like that", it DOES continue the same way? i've already marked the 6-1 jump with a NC which shouldnt be that hard to figure out imo
01:10:527 (5) - Any reason why this is a slider and not circles? Same with 01:03:997 (5) - for emphasizing guitar melody
Other than that it looks pretty good! Rhythm is spot-on.

Normal
00:09:303 (4) - This slider is partially off the grid. I'm not sure if that can outright DQ your map from getting ranked but I know that's one of the ranking criteria. off-grid doesnt mean anything, only offscreen
00:39:099 (4,1) - Note in-between, perhaps? To add some variety to the map. adding a circle here would be kinda jarring because its only a vocal, not a strong instrument (like a loud clap). i only put 1/2 for strong notes before the kiai.
Otherwise, amazing. cool

Rankability: 9 / 10 Even glancing through the other difficulties I see virtually zero errors and only minor stylistic things that could be improved but aren't necessary. Great job, good luck!

thanks guys, will get return mods done over the weekend

Last edited by Yahuri 2017-10-19T17:32:49+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Fursum

523 posts

Joined August 2014

Fursum 2017-10-19T16:47:51+00:00

Saltssaumure wrote:
[Fursum's Hard]
00:35:834 (3) -
00:47:058 (2) -
01:10:527 (3) -
01:24:201 (2) -

could only fix the circle one, also the slider body overlaps shouldnt be an issue i think

LowLevelPro wrote:
00:06:854 (1) - remove nc i think it is fine as i didnt use much 1/4 gaps and this is the first one
00:16:650 (3,1) - get rid of that overlap why it is cutey

makisokk wrote:
[Fursum's Hard]
00:01:956 (4) - I think better 2 note 00:02:160 - have strong sound im not following them tho, because it is only the intro i think having a straightforward rythm is better
00:05:221 (4) - ^
01:05:425 (2,1) - i think you can increase space, 01:05:629 (1) - have strong sound my map is very limited in terms of spacing emphasis so i cant really do that
01:05:221 (1,2,1,2) - or do it by increasing the spacing
01:11:752 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:12:160 (1,3) - i think bad overlap noted but dont really wanna touch that area or i break more stuff cause of ds, isnt that obvious in gameplay tho

not that new stuff

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Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-11-26T19:49:40+00:00

general

epilepsy warning is not necessary.
storyboard file not found: background.png (automod stuff)

top

00:19:507 (5,1) - the jump can be a bit bigger, the current spacing doesn't represent the song well

00:26:038 (5) - you can use a NC here, for dividing the pattern better

00:32:568 (5) - 00:39:099 (5) - same as above

00:43:997 (3,4) - there are some blankets in the whole diff that can be improved a bit

01:04:609 (2) - the rhythm is really bad here, I mean you bring click actions and tiny jumps to every clap sound, so leaving this one as slider tail kills your rhythm and spacing concept

01:11:140 (2) - 01:17:670 (2) - 01:24:201 (2) - same

Fursum

01:05:221 (1,2,1,2) - the NC spam is totally unnecessary, they don't represent anything special in the song and also they don't indicate any special pattern or gimmick.

01:11:752 (1,2,1,2) - 01:15:017 (1,2,1,2) - etc same ^

00:39:099 (3) - offscreen

Yahuri

1,400 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Yahuri 2017-11-26T22:22:14+00:00

Natsu wrote:
general

epilepsy warning is not necessary. will fix after i get fursum's update fixed
storyboard file not found: background.png (automod stuff) deleted that line of code

top

00:19:507 (5,1) - the jump can be a bit bigger, the current spacing doesn't represent the song well increased to 2.57 for 00:19:507 (5,1,2)

00:26:038 (5) - you can use a NC here, for dividing the pattern better sure

00:32:568 (5) - 00:39:099 (5) - same as above done. also added here 00:45:629 (1) and here 00:52:160 (1)

00:43:997 (3,4) - there are some blankets in the whole diff that can be improved a bit checking checked

01:04:609 (2) - the rhythm is really bad here, I mean you bring click actions and tiny jumps to every clap sound, so leaving this one as slider tail kills your rhythm and spacing concept i wanted to emphasize the guitar line which starts here 01:03:385 up until when the vocals start again, which is why i dont put clicks on the claps.

01:11:140 (2) - 01:17:670 (2) - 01:24:201 (2) - same same

thanks!

Last edited by Yahuri 2017-11-26T23:14:14+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Fursum

523 posts

Joined August 2014

Fursum 2017-11-26T22:57:57+00:00

Natsu wrote:
general

epilepsy warning is not necessary. removed

Fursum

01:05:221 (1,2,1,2) - the NC spam is totally unnecessary, they don't represent anything special in the song and also they don't indicate any special pattern or gimmick.

01:11:752 (1,2,1,2) - 01:15:017 (1,2,1,2) - etc same ^ removed

00:39:099 (3) - offscreen rip blanket

box

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