I also think frostings is scum but he's being so pro-town about it that it makes me doubt myself :/
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The bottom line is: if birdy is oracle we should not lynch her, if she is scum then we should lynch her
The fact that frostings is pushing it one way makes it very scummy
On the other hand, if birdy is scum, it's auto lose if we DONT lynch her
So it's wifom.exe
But frostings is making it sound like not wifom, and it sounds like he knows the answers, and only scum know the answers. That's what I'm thinking right now.
The fact that frostings is pushing it one way makes it very scummy
On the other hand, if birdy is scum, it's auto lose if we DONT lynch her
So it's wifom.exe
But frostings is making it sound like not wifom, and it sounds like he knows the answers, and only scum know the answers. That's what I'm thinking right now.
Okay I believe that confirms metal sonic is scum.
We can either lynch me or metal sonic, and then you can lynch him tomorrow if we lynch myself now.
We can either lynch me or metal sonic, and then you can lynch him tomorrow if we lynch myself now.
Vote: Birdy / Static Noise Bird
Topic Starter
meh maybe I should just use eeny meeny miny moe to decide..........
Vote Count 3.2
Frosting[0]
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[1] Birdy
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[5] -[Jess]-, Zexion, Ace Timing, Frosting, metal sonic1,
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Vote Count 3.2
Frosting[0]
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[1] Birdy
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[5] -[Jess]-, Zexion, Ace Timing, Frosting, metal sonic1,
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
I see.
[vote]Birdy[/vote]
[vote]Birdy[/vote]
whoops
Birdy
Birdy
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Vote: Birdy
Vote: Birdy
well at least we know Zexion isn't the one making the NKs 
*sigh*
I am the governor. I was going to redirect the lynch away from SNB but I realised that would have exactly the same effect as SNB dying since it would be very obvious it was me, so I tried my best to not get revealed.
I am the governor. I was going to redirect the lynch away from SNB but I realised that would have exactly the same effect as SNB dying since it would be very obvious it was me, so I tried my best to not get revealed.
Added on, bird does not seem like she is gambiting, she really wants to be lynched, so she might be town.
But frostings wants the both dead, so he is scum.
vote: frostings
But frostings wants the both dead, so he is scum.
vote: frostings
Oh well, let's see if that's true.
The claim, that is, not the Frostings flip.
He's the last person I'd personally believe is scum.
He's the last person I'd personally believe is scum.
Why?
So which is scum more likely to do? someone following the crowd and being agreeable or someone challenging opinions and thinking about the game?
Another analogy for you to think about:
Are bootlickers/brown nosers at work town or scum?
Are bootlickers/brown nosers at work town or scum?
I don't know those terms but I've played all this stuff long enough to know that sheeping is mostly a scum move. We're still probably lynching myself, aren't we?
It doesn't matter at this point, that's what I mean.
Frostings is sheeping everything. Do you see me sheeping anything? Nope.Birdy wrote:
I don't know those terms but I've played all this stuff long enough to know that sheeping is mostly a scum move. We're still probably lynching myself, aren't we?
Therefore frostings is the scum and we should lynch him
Topic Starter
Maybe I can use the RNG thingy website to decide
Vote Count 3.3
Frosting[1] metal sonic1,
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[2] Birdy , Ace Timing
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[3] -[Jess]-, Zexion, Frosting,
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Vote Count 3.3
Frosting[1] metal sonic1,
Zexion[0]
metal sonic1[0]
-[Jess]-[0]
Birdy[2] Birdy , Ace Timing
Ace Timing[0]
NotVoting[3] -[Jess]-, Zexion, Frosting,
With 6alive it takes 4 to lynch.
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ok
let's pretend SNB and ms1 are telling the truth.
Zexion is probably town because N2 NK happened with him afk
So, from my perspective, scum is then guaranteed in either Jess or Ace
The only way we can lynch both of them is if we believe SNB is town
...
If we lynch SNB today, then we only have 1 shot to kill scum. The best odds are then 50/50.
I think the chance of SNB being scum is like 5%. Then not lynching SNB, we have a 5% chance of probably losing the game, which is better than 50% if we decide to lynch SNB today.
ok
let's pretend SNB and ms1 are telling the truth.
Zexion is probably town because N2 NK happened with him afk
So, from my perspective, scum is then guaranteed in either Jess or Ace
The only way we can lynch both of them is if we believe SNB is town
...
If we lynch SNB today, then we only have 1 shot to kill scum. The best odds are then 50/50.
I think the chance of SNB being scum is like 5%. Then not lynching SNB, we have a 5% chance of probably losing the game, which is better than 50% if we decide to lynch SNB today.
...
The problem now is ms1 thinks I'm scum for whatever reason
If we all agree SNB is most likely town, then we should lynch the Gov claim today.
If ms1 is Gov, he redirects lynch onto me, then ms1 probably NKd. We'll have 1 confirmed town by Lylo which is then 50/50
If ms1 agrees to redirect onto Jess or Ace, then we can win the game
Only if: 1. we all agree SNB is town 2. ms1 believes my VT claim
The problem now is ms1 thinks I'm scum for whatever reason
If we all agree SNB is most likely town, then we should lynch the Gov claim today.
If ms1 is Gov, he redirects lynch onto me, then ms1 probably NKd. We'll have 1 confirmed town by Lylo which is then 50/50
If ms1 agrees to redirect onto Jess or Ace, then we can win the game
Only if: 1. we all agree SNB is town 2. ms1 believes my VT claim
inb4 SNB + Zexion scum partners and SNB made the N2 kill
wat
sorry for not posting for days,i am busy with holiday and staff.
sorry for not posting for days,i am busy with holiday and staff.
ok,If you guy want to lynch SNB so bad
vote: Birdy
vote: Birdy
take your votes off SNB
If we agree that SNB is town, then by lynching the Gov claim, we can confirm THREE towns today (SNB, ms1, Zexion), AND get a reveal
If we agree that SNB is town, then by lynching the Gov claim, we can confirm THREE towns today (SNB, ms1, Zexion), AND get a reveal
even if SNB is scum, it's at best a 50/50 between the retarget onto Jess or Ace, if ms1 trusts me. This is still the best odds we have if we choose to lynch SNB today.
If ms1 is scum, or we hit scum between Jess and Ace, and we still have D4, then obviously the last scum is SNB
If ms1 is scum, or we hit scum between Jess and Ace, and we still have D4, then obviously the last scum is SNB
It's literally town's best play right now (to lynch Gov claim today)
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I think I can't redirect a lynch on myself
@Setsuen can you confirmmetal sonic1 wrote:
I think I can't redirect a lynch on myself
Topic Starter
I cannot answer that since I have already sort of answered the question before enough times.Frostings wrote:
@Setsuen can you confirm
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The only thing we know is Gov can override one lynch per game, into a NL or onto someone else, so I'm assuming that includes a lynch onto himself.
If we don't want to risk it, we can still follow our plan. Instead we lynch, say, SNB, and ms1 retargets onto whoever he thinks is best suitable. We'll still confirm 3 people town, as well as get a flip.
If ms1 doesn't retarget, he's scum (doubly verified by SNB's Oracle target flip). If SNB is scum and ms1 is town, then the odds are technically 50/50 if he targets Ace or Jess, which is the best odds we get if we don't follow the plan.
If SNB and ms1 are scum, we win
If SNB and Zexion are scum, we lose
If we don't want to risk it, we can still follow our plan. Instead we lynch, say, SNB, and ms1 retargets onto whoever he thinks is best suitable. We'll still confirm 3 people town, as well as get a flip.
If ms1 doesn't retarget, he's scum (doubly verified by SNB's Oracle target flip). If SNB is scum and ms1 is town, then the odds are technically 50/50 if he targets Ace or Jess, which is the best odds we get if we don't follow the plan.
If SNB and ms1 are scum, we win
If SNB and Zexion are scum, we lose
Here's an important note: If we lynch SNB and ms1 doesn't retarget, he has to be scum, regardless of whatever SNB flips, and regardless of who or what her Oracle target flips.
So ms1 has to agree to use his shot today, if we want to follow the plan
So ms1 has to agree to use his shot today, if we want to follow the plan
That was what I was planning to do anyway. But by making a retarget it was equal to claiming anyway. That's why I was so against the lynch in the first place.
As long as SNB + Zexion aren't scum, as far as I know, we'll win the game if you retarget onto Ace or Jess
If you decide to retarget onto me, it'll be 50/50. Whatever you decide to do, I won't put any blame onto your decision
So just pick whoever you feel is best
Regardless, this was actually a pretty interesting game, and I'm curious to see how it'll turn out
If you decide to retarget onto me, it'll be 50/50. Whatever you decide to do, I won't put any blame onto your decision
So just pick whoever you feel is best
Regardless, this was actually a pretty interesting game, and I'm curious to see how it'll turn out